How South America managed to be so shitty? What did they do wrong

The eternal gringo
Prove me wrong

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>>74938088

Spanish colonial system, cultural issues, and poor geography/climate are the main factors. They never had a chance for success like Canada and the US, founded by Protestant Anglos and which enjoyed much closer geographical proximity to Europe as well as temperate climates.

>>74938088
excellent post my depressed friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve6Rd0G4TK0

>>74938088

in our case (Argentina) it was mostly self inflicted
we fucked ourselves with Peronism. We used to be pretty wealthy, and only in the 70s and 80s we were passed in gdp per capita by countries like Spain, Portugal and South Korea.

but much of south america was "in war" far recently than Europe, during the cold war, when dictators and communists fought each other, backed by the USA and the URSS.
The cold war was fought in the third world, not in Europe.
Yemen next to Saudi Arabia used to be divided in 2 countries, with one of them being communist.

LOS

>>74938161
>The cold war was fought in the third world, not in Europe
The Cold War was fought across the globe. Besides, half of Europe was under communist control in case you forgot.

Amerikan fatties scared that they couldn't see their dick, financed guerilla groups

>>74938138
Interesting, but aren't they supposed to have Spanish and Portuguese genes? Or did they just import too many niggers and fucked too many indians?

>>74938194

Italy, West Germany, France, Sweden etc were peaceful during the cold war.
Stuff like IRA or the Red Brigades were minor in comparison, more police stuff than civil war stuff.

>>74938088
we have been in a constant war for centuries

>>74938161
unfortunately the military junta backed by cia fucked up your economy even further.
but it is not clear to me what happened between 1930's and 1970's. argentina used to have a higher gdp than france and such.

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>>74938161
Yeah, how this kind of fuck up can be even possible? You should hang everyone who was behind this.

>>74938088
Few rivers, highlands, and protectionism

It's expensive to do business in South America

>>74938306
ahem

>>74938272
Not a war in the sense of Vietnam, but it was still part of the worldwide US-Soviet struggle.

>>74938328
Yes, my burger friend?

>>74938303
If only the CIA were really as skilled and competent as leftists believe, Fidel Castro would not have died of natural causes in his sleep at the age of 90.

>>74938088
siestas

>>74938303
Well Europe was pretty much fucked by the ww2 in 1940's m8.

>>74938306
That's some Greece tier shit right there.

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>>74938308
>Few rivers
u fucken wot m8?

>>74938384
Few rivers near places that could be developed industrially

>>74938303
>>74938364
WW2 and its post-war benefitted Europe and Japan
South America was left aside, literally

>>74938394
>that could be developed industrially
explain this meme please

>>74938346
i don't think it was about competence.
i doubt they wanted to destroy LA economies.
they just didn't want russian influence there so the CIA supported various local scum as long as they were "anti communist". and in some cases it turned out beneficial, such as in chile.

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>>74938404
>explain this meme please
It's expensive to build factories in the highlands

Spain's colonies were purely for resource extraction rather than settlement. There was never a real chance to develop a middle class there, and post-independence they simply continued in their role as a source of natural resources for North America and Europe, all wealth going to the crillo elite.

>>74938139
The Southern Cone has a more temperate climate and some European immigration did go there, but it's also quite geographically remote from Europe.

>>74938447
why would the lowlands be un-exploitable industrially?

>>74938449
>source: my ass

>>74938504
The Southern Cone was developed agriculturally and industrially but Argentina's government has sat down every day for the past 50 years and found new ways to fuck everything up

Not saying that it isn't at least partially our fault btw

>>74938088
>How South America managed to be so shitty?
Spaniards and Italians as their biggest immigration group.
nig nogs did not help either,

>>74938088
>How South America managed to be so shitty?

The Monroe Doctrine and unequal access to international markets

>>74938269
>Or did they just import too many niggers and fucked too many indians?
This one. While Anglo colonies killed the natives, Iberian colonists breeded with them.

>>74938595
i can't also blame Argentina's government only (there's Brazil's too)
you seen that movie Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead man's chest? all that convoluted plot of characters continuously backstabbing each other? well like that

>>74938088
>CIA dictatorships

>>74939013
Hey we weren't the only ones doing that shit

>all these americans spewing the shit they deduce with their shitty education about history and geography
Kek, keep it coming lads, its comedy gold

>>74938449
APEX KEK, you're golden son

>>74939117
Who else? Hitler? Stalin? Tatcher?

Read a book nigga

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>>74939121
Not that you have any room to talk Miguel

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>>74938088
Give us more time! D:

The only cunt that really had it really really bad is Paraguay. The rest is a bunch of cry babies.

>>74938114
>>74939013
Chile
>>74938161
>>74938848
You are not competitive stop blaming everyone else.
>>74938299
Speak for yourself

>>74939143
What shitty propaganda books are you reading that just blame America for everything?

More importantly, if you are a garbage enough country that the CIA can fuck you over then someone was going to do it anyway.

>>74939121
Hi, Mexico is White Guy.

>>74939212
that's what i'm doing you retard

>>74939235
>What shitty propaganda books are you reading that just blame America for everything?
I guarantee you it's a book with Che Guevara on the cover.

>>74939239
Y pa que te enojai wn

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I'm just here wondering how good our countries would be if our politicians really cared about helping their fellow country men, like, even despite our disgusting corruption we still manage to be semi descent countries (although of course violence make us automatically be worse than Africa).

We have everything, hard working people, intelligent people, the wether is really not that bad (besides some CA countries like El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua). Like for real, is it so hard to actually find people that want to form a descent goverment??

>>74939288
>I'm just here wondering how good our countries would be if our politicians really cared about helping their fellow country men
heaven on Earth
but that's an impossible dream

>>74939212
Allende was such a fuck-up that the army would have probably couped him anyway and didn't necessarily need American prodding.

USA
Unironically everytime we had a nationalistic government that prioritized our industry instead of their we got couped

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>>74938269
Yes, we are amerindian.

>>74939338
Eh? Brazil already is absurdly protectionist, but your manufactured goods are garbage only fit for sale in Third World countries.

>>74939174
Why tho? I actually have actual education, not the McLearning you get

>>74939372
> but your manufactured goods are garbage only fit for sale in Third World countries.
yes just like our aircraft manufacturer, naval industry and oil refinary industry that you spy so much

>>74939288
You need to internalize moral standards into your people. That's the only way.

>>74939384
Sure you do Sweetie ;))))))

>>74939235
Our books dont blame america for nothing but for the american invasion, these are well known facts

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>>74939212
im gonna post this again for the one hundredth time just to remind you that you're a failed country with the luck that mother nature gave you to be born above probably the most lucrative mineral deposits on planet earth and you've done NOTHING with it

wasted potential, you should be the Dubai of South America but you're just a tiny fraction above everyone else

>>74939372
also there is a thing called multinationals
>>74939288
Italy managed to do that and is still one of the most corrupt governments on earth. Corruption is not the root problem, thinking that is actually giving in to burger culture and becoming as shitty as them

>>74939405
Oh shit son

wow 2 threads going about the same topic
i am getting confused, cant find my posts
please duplicate your posts in both threads

>>74939391
t. College dropout who cant point anything on a map and flips burgers to pay his college debt
Yee

>>74939404
>Our books dont blame america for nothing but for the american invasion
And that was really your fault anyway. As Santa Anna said, "We have brought this disaster upon ourselves because we could not stop fighting with each other."

>>74939426
Joke's on you I work the register

>>74939428
>cites three different historical moments
You cant make this shit up

Please tell me more about my history, i bet ypur education system thought you well

>all these shart damage control
Kek

>>74939387
Don't all those receive heavy government support and subsidization? It's easy to have top notch industries when the entire country funds them through taxes

>>74939405
>laugh at argies
>dogs are sent loose
kek, every fucking time

>>74939417
and btw, the beloved Pinochet did that, selling every mine to guess who? Americans.

imagine having the 1/3 of the world's lithium ( that is used in every single electronic device today) and being just barely, barely above any other south american country

>>74939428
>our invasion was perfectly justified by the fact you were not ready to defend yourselves, therefore, it's your fault we invaded you

are you going to ask for reparations too?

>>74939454
>Don't all those receive heavy government support and subsidization?
literally every country developed did that, except maybe america and england since they rode on money of the nobles of the industrial revolution and they had no competition, and when they started having competition they started the Monroe doctrine and messing with other countries + protectionism against developed countries, and that led to WW1 and WW2, and now it became evil to have a national programme and develop yourself cause you should submit yourself to globalization and the money of a few global corporations that will suck your country dry and replace your culture for something more profitable like the US culture, just like what they are doing with the EU

>>74939354
Te conozco de algún lado

>>74939496
Do you really think the 19th century was at all like today's world? That was back when right-of-conquest was an accepted practice.

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>>74939484
>and being just barely, barely above any other south american country
Have you ever travelled out of your villa? Yeah, right. Uruguay and Argentina on par with Chile. Give me a fucking break.

>>74939557
Chile is unironically one city and that is it, the rest is literally desert, ice or farms

>>74939527
Puede ser.

>>74939557
>my shithole is only slightly better than yours hurr
>>74939576
Estudias en la utp?

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>>74939557
oh, ive been to chile and there's barely any difference with the rest of South America

>>74939405

this

>>74939591
No. Soy universitario, pero no estudio en esa.

>>74939591
You really don't want to do this panameño. Keep quiet.
>>74939610
That's why you keep a fucking folder about Chile. Obsessed motherfucker give it up

>>74939405
Damn. Chile just got REKT.

Uruguay - 1
Chile - 0

>>74939610
Is this what the average neighborhood in Chile looks like? Wtf? Had no idea it was this shit. Argentina and Uruguay are way better...

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>>74939642
I already know what's coming, let's get this over with.
>Boca la Caja
>KEK they have pretty ugly slums, man.

>>74939642
i just googled "chile pobreza" and that's the first pic that comes up

try it right now and tell me

Let's face it though, folks. Costa Rica is objectively the best country in the area, by far. Shitholes like Panama and Chile just can't compete.

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>>74939617
Entonces no, but if you're white we can be friends

>>74939642
Calm down bad boy

>>74938088
I don't even need to read this thread to know that 90% of people blamed America and the rest blamed Spain and Portugal for being shitty colonizers

>>74939642
>>74939613
>>74939557
>>74939483
>>74939390

déntrate

Brazil and Mexico are shit but they realistically have the best chances of becoming developed because they have diverse economies. They aren't resource colonies/money laundering countries like Panama and Chile.

>>74939689
100%

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>>74939689
Costa Rica is actually worst than Panamá in must aspec-
Oh, it was bait.

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>>74939713
Generalplan Ost wasn't exactly the greatest colonization scheme either.

>>74939716
toy wndo wn

>>74939574

They have a couple of cities more with over a million people (Concepción for sure), and many mid sized cities.

>>74939655
i don't even have anything personal against average chileans!
what i really find funny is the whole "Chile is First World while the rest of South America is Third World i swear!!!1" meme i keep seeing here in this site
everyone bought it so fucking hard that i laugh every time i see it

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>>74939713
Read the thread

>>74939729
No, it wasn't bait. Costa Rica is actually the best. Pura Vida, bitch.

My Colombian homie agrees >>74939722

Panama wishes it was Costa Rica, I am sure.

>>74939742
>im just pretending


Fuck off negro

>>74939757
Weren't they doing really well until the monetarist policies came back to bite them?

>>74939757
Not with a per capita GDP of $13,383 it's not.

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>>74939681
Oh btw, acuall size of Boca la Caja.
People there have Cable TV and Cars.

>>74939757
I've personally always heard that Uruguay is the best. And the most European.

But Costa Rica is objectively the best.

>>74939672
>>74939689
>>74939655

Leafs need to be range banned soon before they keep shitting up the board.

>>74939610
One of those shacks has a satellite dish.

>>74938394
Bullshit. The majority of brazilian industry is located near the sea and we still aren't any more developed for it.

The problems LatAm has is simply lack of education. It is easy for france or germany recover from a world war and huge devastation when you have enough brilliant minds to fix it. In LatAm these minds are few and the ones that exist are drowned by the stupid ones who can easily lie a bit and say some beautiful words and win government seats. I worked in a City Hall, I know how retarded most Councilmen are.

I once saw a very educated, very skilled, healthcare manager that was actually making the town's problems be greatly reduced be kicked away just because of politics. Same year the responsible by the town's finances, a lawyer with a Post-doc in fucking UK got kicked by the same group of people whose majority (60%) didn't even finished high school.

Turn every government position, from President to the lowest City Councilmen, were technocrat positions, where you have to demonstrate scientific knowledge to get in, we would start growing.

>>74939772
No with that HDI and that GDP per capita. They have worst infraestructure and a shitier economy.

They do have a better education and a little less poor people, but that is about it. They still have slums, buddy.

>>74939814
Culture that doesn't value education and hard work.

>>74939790
Costa Rica is chill as fuck and stoner/hipster paradise, but that's about it.

Objectively speaking.

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>>74939719

Honestly, being colonized by the Spanish. Not one country colonized by the Spanish have turned out decent (Panama doesn't count, they only got good after America)

>>74939814
>The majority of brazilian industry is located near the sea and we still aren't any more developed for it.
You're infamous for being protectionists. You're one of the least connected major economies in the world

There's also the deal with your main highway out of the highlands being so shitty that it gets backed up for 180km when everyone brings their produce to the ports. You've never used half of your land for anything more than low intensity farming

>>74939867
The Spanish nobility historically didn't have much interest in industry and commerce, while the English nobility had no problem with that.

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>>74939848
This. I love Ticos by the way.

>>74939854
Shitleans BTFO

>>74939775
i don't fucking know the reason man, maybe you can tell me, but, any decent small country (because Chile is SMALL, only 18 million people ) with that GODLIKE, GODLIKE natural resources should be first world, honestly they should be like Norway right now, its very comparable t-b-h

>>74939790
Uruguay is SHIT, SHIT, mostly because our most abundant natural resource is GRASS, no third world country can grow out of that
can you imagine? we just feed grass to cows and that's what we export
and yet (again, nothing personal against Chileans) we manage to do almost as good as them, that's RETARDED for the love of God! do something with your sixtillion dollar minerals!!!

>>74939854
nice graph.

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>>74939911
forgot pic

>>74938138
>85 in PNG
O O G A

>>74939757
Truth is, Chile is WAY far more developed than the rest of Latin America and that's a fact. You can cherry pick if you want (not wasting my time but go ahead), but there's no other country in latin america where things work as they are supposed to, and if they don't, you actually can complain and get answers and people held responsible. Bullshit all you want, but it's a fact. I will not talk about Uurguay because there's no point. I'm answering you out of courtesy because as a country, and you know it, uruguay is a fucking joke. You are 3 million people in a place with zero natural disasters, everything given for free or stolen from brazil and argentina, and still manage to have people living in slums and massive exporters of unqualified people who end up working as you know what

>>74939911
>Uruguay is SHIT, SHIT, mostly because our most abundant natural resource is GRASS, no third world country can grow out of that
What do you do anyway? Agriculture?

>>74938088
socialism

>>74938194
and they're shitholes, as they've always been.

>>74939950
BEEF

>>74939885
Maybe be it is true?

We are living in an idiocracy of gibs

>>74939889
We don't need 180km of highways. We need railroads. Highways are expensive as fuck in the long run.

Being protectionist is a problem but the USA is too, just in other fields of products. You only have agriculture industry because you protect it to hell. Your orange juice is way worst and more expensive than ours. Been there, drank that.

>>74939889
America's economy is highly protectionist. We have a lot of trade deals but in those deals, American brands and products are always given an advantage.

Yep. All Uruguay has for an economy is cattle ranching. There's some hydroelectric power and marble mining, but that's about it.

>>74938433
>and in some cases it turned out beneficial,
> such as in chile.

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>>74939950
And MATE!

>>74939975
>You only have agriculture industry because you protect it to hell
Actually the most subsidized crops such as corn are the least profitable.

>>74939950
see this >>74939929

cows, cows and more cows
a little of soy and a little of rice
can you imagine a country with that kind of production being almost the best in South America?
if i was Chilean, and i say this with the utmost respect, i'd be SEETHING, seething at how underdeveloped my country was

>>74939971
Your beef is shitty compared to argie/uru/bra beef. Outside of those super expensive nip beef ours is better than the CRAP I ate in Rome

>>74939911
Well you could have just used the truck loads of iron we make to build industry and stuff but no, you had to use the facts that portuguese are retarded and defeat them and get away from us.
Learn portuguese, join us as our clay again, get billionaire.

>>74939929
>20% soy beans and meat
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>74939975
>We need railroads
How are you supposed to run rail down the mountains to the coast without it bankrupting your country

>>74939708
Okey

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If tomorrow Mexico decided to annex Central America would anybody give a shit?

>>74939404
It's a popular practice to just keep crying about the same boogeyman every time something goes wrong.

I'll say it again though. If the United States, a country notoriously bad at this sort of thing, could fuck all of S. America this badly, than it was going to happen anyways.

>>74939975
>Your orange juice is way worst and more expensive than ours
I wouldn't think Brazil is a good place to grow citrus fruit since it's in the tropics and citrus trees are subtropical. They don't do well in the tropics as people who've tried planting orange trees in Hawaii have found.

>>74940039
The US because they'd probably try to build a canal and we've already coup'd a few countries for thinking about it

>>74940039
Why would they do that??

>>74940021
>can you imagine a country with that kind of production being almost the best in South America?

>>74939672

Those are immigrants camps, Bolivians, Peruvians and Colombians lives there because they can't afford a house. The majority of them are legal immigrants.

>>74940029
It is actuallly very impressive how they have done so much with so little.

>>74940040
>If the United States, a country notoriously bad at this sort of thing, could fuck all of S. America this badly, than it was going to happen anyways
Like, we didn't beat up Mexico and take 40% of their clay because they were a strong country that wasn't in a state of virtual anarchy at the time.

But we should have just let the commies have the Southern Cone. Would have scared them off of socialism the way Alvarado scared Peru out of it.

>>74939983
imagine Chile being almost as BAD as us (because we're bad) with all that mineral riches

its just mindblowing how can they be so bad

>>74939911
Maybe Uruguay is shit, but considering your size, I'd call you guys a success story.

>>74940025
I was talking about Uruguay's beef. We are not important exporter of beef.

>>74940072
>imagine Chile being almost as BAD as us

>>74940063
>>74940063
Idk. For the clay? Guatemalan slaves?

>>74940048
South Brazil is subtropical and hermanic!

Central America was part of Mexico at independence in 1821, but they seceded.

>>74940067
So Bolivians are the Mexicans of South America? But at least they come in LEGALLY :^)

Joking, I like Mexico. I was in Mexico City and Mexican women LOVED me. It was awesome. Very good looking women in Mexico, as I'm sure is the case for all South America.

Why are there never any Bolivians on here?

>>74940031
We have plenty of plainer lands. Not everything is mountainous. Regions with huge potential were fucked because our late presidents wanted fast growth (to appease the retard masses) instead of something that would make us better in the long run.

>>74940067
>an imigrant raising a chilean flag
try again

>>74940087
that's exactly my point my friend

>Uruguay productivity score related to natural resources: 95%
>Chile productivity score related to natural resources: 15%

step up your game my friend, i hope you do and i wish you the best

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>>74940114
From time to time there are some Bolivians, but they are rare because they are poor... And it is all Chile's fault for not giving them sea acces!

>>74940145
They do it because it is law in Chile that you can not attack/distroy/dismantel any structure with the Chilean flag on it.

>>74940048
We plant strawberries even in equator line and it grows just fine. Technique > Nature.

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>>74940072
>>74939929

last image for the sake of truth

>imagine you're the world's top producer of the world's most used metal in history and being this bad

>>74940161
>And it is all Chile's fault for not giving them sea access

They bitch hard about that, but again, it was the 19th century when right-of-conquest was accepted.

>>74938088
Ebil Americans muh CIA

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>>74940147
>>74939483
>step up your game my friend, i hope you do and i wish you the best
You sure wish it to be so, we own your ass since last year. Keep bringing those tech ideas so we can profit out of it selling them to China, my business ally

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>>74940190
>it is law in Chile that you can not attack/distroy/dismantel any structure with the Chilean flag on it.
So in theory,if I get a tattoo of the chilean flag on my forehead,I am invincible?

>>74940161
How will sea access make them rich?

>>74940280
trade

>>74940039
They'd get BTFO as they did in the past lmao

MEXICANS ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW

>>74938346
They got better, more professional and competent in the later stages of the Cold War, but in the 50s-60s they were like the Keystone Cops. Some of those hit attempts on Castro were almost comically bad.

>>74940308
You don't need sea access to trade.

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>>74938114

>USA mid to late 1900s protected Western Europe and Japan from communism
>Western Europe and Japan are among the most wealthy countries in the world by 1990, despite many of their cities being rebuilt from smoking WW2 rubble

>USA mid to late 1990s protected Latin America from communism
>failed in Cuba, succeeded most everywhere else
>South America, Central America, and Mexico are shitheaps

y-yeah those gringos

>>74940356
It makes it easier and cheaper

>>74940373
It doesn't work when the leaders you replace commies with are almost as corrupt and incompetent. Unfortunately, in South America, there are no non-incompetent, non-corrupt politicians.

>>74940381
True, but I doubt with a port or two they would half double the GDP...

The effect would be marginal IMO. Still, it's pretty cucked to be landlocked.

>>74940413
>It doesn't work when the leaders you replace commies with are almost as corrupt and incompetent.

Actually it does, because an economy can whir along on its own with an incompetent capitalist leader. Just like we've done for the past couple of decades ourselves.

>>74940424
Don't know why I said half double. Meant to say just double.

>>74940424
I doubt it would be much but it's better than nothing. It's hard to ship things over the Andes anyway

>>74940434
But try living in a country with no functioning rule of law, where corruption and bribery are a way of life, where there's no middle class, etc.

>>74940469
Cleveland?

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So which Central American country has the sexiest women? Where they love Italian looking men?

Is it Colombia? Venezuela?

>>74940505
Central/South American***

Yeah right!

>>74939939
This is somewhat decent bait and I can't believe no one gave it a >(You)

>>74939328
No
The arny until 1970 had a significant constitutionalist faction led by Schneider and , who was killed by CIA backed operatives, and Prats
The coup was originally an idea between Merino (who was not commander in chief of tne navy till 11/09), Leigh (who got in command of the air force in august of that year) and some low tier generals of Carabineros
Pinochet was the last one to join the coup

>>74939484
Pinochet didn't sell any copper mine
In fact he reinforced CODELCO's role as the state main company

>>74941936
>>74939328
Without the coup, Allende would have probably been buried in the next presidential election, due up for 1976 since he thoroughly crashed the economy in only three years, and despite his pro-Soviet sympathies, Moscow refused to bail him out.

>>74938088
Chile literally has a higher life expectancy than the United States and Mexico's is higher than Hungary

>>74942114
That was one of the most probable scenarios
The other one was that Allende would call a plebiscite between 1973-1974 about his mandate

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>>74942199

>>74938161
Except the fundamental economic divergerence from the world even goes back to the 1920's-1930's, and only worsened in 1970's-80's with the dictatorship.

Good and bad results are attributed to Peronism because it is far easier to blame one person than to acknowledge the fundamental failures of your entire society.

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>>74939889
>

>>74938088
>How South America managed to be so shitty?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhR9i5CGkA

>>74938139
>Spanish colonial system
Let's assume the system was actually that bad (pro-tip: it wasn't), how does that matter 200 years post date? It's like blaming Brexit on John Lackland.
>Cultural issues
Such as? Actually name said "cultural issues".
>Poor geography/climate
You do know you're talking about an entire continent, right?

>Muh protestant anglos
Oh, you're one of those guys.

>>74943291
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
He's right.

Why do Americans think that protecting already existing governments and countries im westerm Europe is the same as couping anyone who threatens their share of the profit and replacing them with a military junta that lets American capitalists own huge amount of land is the same. Are they stupid

>>74947214
>and replacing them with a military junta that lets American capitalists own huge amount of land is the same
South America has been robbed and plundered by their own leaders for 200 years, anything we did is a drop in the bucket.

>>74947256
Yes but don't act as if it noble protection from muh gommunism

>>74947308
We should really have just let the commies have them. I mean, Peru was thoroughly fucked by Juan Alvarez in the 70s to the extent that it deterred them from any future embrace of socialism.

Delete all this pls

>>74938138
>indigenous
>people
>e
>o
>p
>l
>e

mate we called them fauna for a reason

>>74938088
1. Colonised by Iberians who only saw to exploit the area rather than develop it(unlike Anglos)

2. Lots of preexisting savages

3. Nogs

>>74938088
Operation Condor.

South America needed to be the farm of the world and the countries there couldn't become potencies, that's what the US wanted.

>>74939484
B-B-B-BUT COMMIES!!!!!!!! PINOCHET IS THE BEST HE SAVED UF FROM DA COMMIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>74938384
Too many rivers

>>74940147
>>Uruguay productivity score related to natural resources: 95%


Water, trees and grass don't count mate.

We have no natural resources

>>74938139
there are mainly Chileans, Bolivians and Peruvians in these camps.

>>74949544
Well we're like second in the world with cellulose and if we build this gigantic new plant it will double it.

The sad part is that we don't have industry to exploit that cellulose because it's way more profitable to exploit it than to sell it as a raw material.

>>74947308
It is though. Literally anything is better than communism.

>>74950628
Mo communism no capitalism you have sudaxa people

>>74943291
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
And Panama has a higher life expectancy than Poland.

>>74951417
Just stay away from me sudaca dont care about ideology or education

>>74951267
>sudaxa people
CHI

>>74951512
SUD

>>74951507
What was meant by this?

South America consists of real world examples of the ideal multicultural societies.

Only fisti

>>74951546
out of topic post?

>>74951573
No.

>>74951544
Only distinction I make is on race not gonmies piggies or education

Because it's run by subhuman brown people, what did you expect?

>>74951585
then explain how we are supposedly multicultural and what that has to do with OP. I doubt you can

>>74951602
This post is way to American, oh my god.
T. Proud Amerindian. >>74939354

>>74951610
I did not know LatAm was run by Pakis.

>>74951640
>The culture of Brazil is primarily Western, but presents a very diverse nature showing that an ethnic and cultural mixing occurred in the colonial period involving mostly Indigenous peoples of the coastal and most accessible riverine areas, Portuguese people and African people. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, together with further waves of Portuguese colonization, Italians, Spaniards, Germans, Levantine Arabs, Nipponics, Poles, Helvetians and Ukrainians settled in Brazil, playing an important role in its culture as it started to shape a multicultural and multiethnic society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Brazil

Its related to OP because its a shithole.

>>74951610
if anything for most of the time of history of south america, 1st world countries had more power in SA than SA governements themselves

>>74951673
Brown subhuman
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3oEWA7UglB4

>>74946877
>It's like blaming Brexit on John Lackland.

glad someone finally said it

>>74951710
If anything everyone here shares the same language, culture and religion despite race. Would you still call that multicultural just because /pol/ said so?
>Its related to OP because its a shithole.
You didn't explain how that supposedly multiculturalism made us shit. Maybe you just want to be part of /pol/ hivemind

>>74951787
Are all multi racial less whites areas and countries trash?
Are all negroided areas inferior?
You are speaking if capitalism to ants and bees

>>74951546
>>74951640
the whole world is multicultural, it always has been. it's how all religions, languages, habits and traditions of today were shaped, through the contact of different societies and their cultural practices.

which is better aoe2 or aoe3?

>>74951787
I thought it was pretty self explanatory that the average of Europe, native Americans and Africa would be worse than a pure society like OP's Finland in every respect.

And you can deny your roots all you want. But the rape babies that you are are not a breed native to America.

>>74951743
That movie takes place in North America, tho.

>>74938088
it's like you niggers don't read books. fuck off already.

>>74938088
To be shitty is a defense....now let me enjoy my ayahuasca ;-)

>>74951874
Pls respond

>>74951840
Not really we aren't the US my friend. If you go to a favela down south Brazil, you will much more white people than black people in the favela areas. Here there isn't racial segregation, but if anything there is class segregation
>>74951884
>I thought it was pretty self explanatory that the average of Europe, native Americans and Africa would be worse than a pure society like OP's Finland in every respect.
So why did Japan took up till 1880 to start industrializing? They were and are one of the most homogenous societies to exist and still took that much to develop themselves. Also why did Europe in Middle Ages almost succumbed to Islam when they were supposed to be superior? Also why did the Roman Empire was that great when northern europe was shit? If you believe in that you are pretty stupid my friend

Well i think south america is undeveloped, because they came here to take resources like gold or something, the north amrecians settlers came there scaping from political threats... not to steal the things from land

>>74952062
>what is Minas Gerais

>>74952000
You give examples of societies isolated from the rest of the world. Which is something entirely else.

>>74952115
not really, your argument is that homogenous society are superior to the rest, so if anything they were supposed to use that isolationism to innovate themselves and prove their superiority agaisnt the rest. When in reality that didn't happen. If anything most of knowledge up till the Renaissance mostly came from the Greeks/Romans, Catholic Church, Chinese, Indians and Arabs.

>>74952115
Plus the Islam never reached here or deep into German territory. Nor did the Romans frown upon us. They actually praised our traditional socities.

>>74952239
>Nor did the Romans frown upon us. They actually praised our traditional socities.
Ok now you are just baiting seeya

>>74952208
And we build upon it, while the multicultural societies stagnated and never recovered.

North america was independent so they dont have to give their goods to england, much time before south america was so they have to give our goods to portugal or spanish

>>74952337
Wealth is people, niggers are shit.

>>74938088
easy

they are just really lazy, have victim complex and are just shitty people

only decent country is uruguvay

>>74952239
Kek, Caesar considered the germanics subhuman and wanted to genocide them. They were the scum that destroyed the Roman Empire

>>74952411
Fuck rome.

>>74952289
>Germanic and homogenous societies
>Not stagnating
If anything you guys stagnated to the point of self-destruction when you guys failed at WW2. If you were truly superior you would find a way to still be superior not a puppet of the US and globalism

>>74952394

no
yes
no

no

South americans are not lazy they work harder than the developed nation they just don't gain more money as salary as the developed nations

>>74952435
Meds >>> Nodics

>>74952411
>Tacitus (De origine et situ Germanorum XXIX) described the Batavi as the bravest of the tribes of the area, hardened in the Germanic wars, with cohorts under their own commanders transferred to Britannia. They retained the honour of the ancient association with the Romans, not required to pay tribute or taxes and used by the Romans only for war: "They furnished to the Empire nothing but men and arms", Tacitus remarked. Well regarded for their skills in horsemanship and swimming—for men and horses could cross the Rhine without losing formation, according to Tacitus. Dio Cassius describes this surprise tactic employed by Aulus Plautius against the "barbarians"—the British Celts— at the battle of the River Medway, 43:
Not really we got hired to beat up British people.

>The Batavi were used to form the bulk of the Emperor's personal Germanic bodyguard from Augustus to Galba. They also provided a contingent for their indirect successors, the Emperor's horse guards, the Equites singulares Augusti.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavi_(Germanic_tribe)

>>74939689
>objectively
>Chile alone beats it at everything except being cool and natural beauty
>>74939772
t. CostarichicANO

Greek is lazy and they're a developed country, if your nation is lazy don't mean you're undeveloped

>>74952608
And later when the Roman empire collapsed we conquered west europe as the Franks, using our Roman battle experience.

>>74952739
>>74952608
>WE GOT
>WE CONQUERED
>WE WUZ
Being so obsessed with "muh ancestors :^)".
I thought you guys accused New Worlders of this.

>>74952912
But we are actually the real deal. In the Kingdom of the Netherlands we have kangz even to this day.

>>74953034
>we
You yourself did jackshit
>taking credit for "achievements" that you personally didn't even accomplish
Nignog spotted

>>74953034
Yeah, but they where them and you are you. Knowing your people's history is cool and all, but giving yourself credit for what your ancestors did is just pathetic.

>>74953247
In Batavi culture people have no rights if they arent part of a family.
Unlike british culture where everyone is born from a single mom.

>>74946877
This video is so biased it's hilarious.

>>74953284
Sorry, I dont live in a shithole without unity. Here we are all united as one under Orange.

>>74953433
Not an excuse for having to rely on the achievements of others due to the lack of your own.

>>74953669
Your wild assumptions are pretty embarrassing.

>>74953811
Wether you have achievements of your own or not, it does not change the fact that you are embarrassingly attributing to yourself doings that correspond to others.

>>74952627
Excuse me, but I've been call a natural beauty many times

>>74940230
Wow you guys really are fighting for that 2nd place

>>74938088
I don't really care. I live in the most developed country in SA and am part of the wealthy bunch. Pretty comfy here in the south.

>>74938138
Damn Botswana you dumb as fuck

>>74951979
AoE 2

>>74959984
Morti di ambre i make 50k just plumbing whike fucking wives

>>74939672
It's interesting when people simply don't understand inequality.

>>74939997
Mate fucking rules.

>>74940114
Everytime I see a canadian posting in these threads I get an Eloy vibe.

Ironically, according to breaking news our current president was recorded negotiating a bribe in exchange for the silence of another politician. I guess that explains all.

>>74949440
Well said. USA is not the only culprit though (even though it's the biggest responsible). You could put every NATO country in the game. And Iberian culture also contributed a good bit. It gets really easy to control states when their leaders only care about themselves and their families.

>>74940145
It is true. Immigrant villas have Chilean flags all over the place. Seen documentaries about it

>>74938088
USA

>>74952739
>>74952608
>>74952411
Just read the Gaulic wars, Quite a few of the "Caesar subjugates another tribe" sections are about how he tried to secure safe passage and Trade for food, and then the Gauls feel like they have the upper hand and start dick waving and taunting them, so Julius uses superior military power to put them in their place for being dicks, and they end up subjugated.

thread still up?
omg
i am going to coup everyone in this thread

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>>74967058
+200 new messages since I was last time here.

I always wanted to visit Brazil, Colombia, and a few others but id probably be robbed or shot leaving the airport

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>>74967168
kek same.

>>74938138
IQ isn't relevant and the methodology of the studies that associated it with race are suspect

>>74938139
>Protestant Anglos

But it what French and Irish Catholics who made these countries great

>>74949536
this
very underrated comment
2 rivers too many
hence confusion and under-performance

>>74967855
I'm OP didn't guess that this is going for bump limit.

>>74946877
never heard a brazilian accent before
very unusual
hispanics speak with a totally different accent

>>74939212
oye amigo buen meme ironico espero que sigas asi

>>74953359
of course it is biased if you are a commie

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pum pum arribotota

>>74938088
You're from Finland which is an extremely developed country. Of course everything else seems shitty to you. We have different cultures and different goals. People are generally happier with fewer things.

>>74968345
So favela livin' is the thing?

>>74967257
yeah, do yourself a favor

>>74951718
Or more accurate to say, South American rulers were just proxies of European governments and the colonial social system never quite disappeared.

>>74969846

even in Brazil people who live in favelas are a minority.

Favelas are to Latin America (or at least South America, I dont know really know about Central America and the Caribbean) what Trailer Parks are in the USA.
The place where the 10% poorest people live.

for most people being a third worlder is about the quality of the electronics you consume and to where you go on vacations. + a higher chance of facing criminal activity.

for example, having cars of older and cheaper models than the ones used in Europe, going on vacations to the beach of your country, not to a better beach in a better country like Cancún or Ibiza, not wearing expensive brands like Armani, and playing videogames on PC because it is cheaper than consoles (and getting next gen consoles only after mid gen)

>>74970023
Or using Chinese consumer electronics instead of European/US/Japanese ones.

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My country had no resources of worth, less than 0.1% arable land, a population of less than 150 thousand, one of the poorest countries in the world, no infrastructure, no education of any merit, brutal conditions that no foreigner would want to live in, no variety in diet or food, only fish and potatoes, no landmarks and no great people of worth and yet we managed to go from that to a first world country that is one of the best countries in the world to live in from just the 1950s, in one generation.
What is your excuse Sudi-Americucks?

wow last time i saw this thread it had like 10 replays way to go Funland

>>74970100
commies

>>74970049

yes. Basically, most third worlders access to the same things as first worlders, it just happens that those goods (in the case of electronics) tend to be either older models or of worse quality.

Buying really new technology, is only for the high middle class, high class, or hobbists who dont mind spending much of their income in certain expensive things.

This also varies depending on how protectionist the country is. Paraguay and Chile have very open economies, Argentina and Brasil are very protectionist.

>>74970100
Iceland was a barbaric medieval collection of fishing villages until the Allied occupation in WWII brought the place into the modern world.

>>74970100
>and no great people of worth
Bjork.

>>74939328
This is true. People forget that Allende was a communist who was trying to follow Castros example.

>>74970100
no one cares bro, thanks for your opinion

>>74939911
>mostly because our most abundant natural resource is GRASS
don't forget the cows dude

>>74970100
>My country had no resources of worth
yeah except for that aluminium that's 30% of your gdp aside from that nothing of worth no siree

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>>74970170
If "Allied Occupation" was the case, then why is Iceland the only country to become great via Allied Occupation
Every other country that get "occupied" goes directly to shit.
If "Occupation" was so efficient, then why are African countries and some Eastern-European countries still so shit?

>>74970185
>Björk
>Alive in the 1940s
>Only Icelandic person this Americlap knows is Björk
How fucking old do you think Bjork is, Americlap?

>>74970206
Stay salty, sub-human

>>74970212
Oh yeah, and we did a real good job harvesting that aluminum with no infrastructure.

>>74970259
>Björk
>Alive in the 1940s
I said this where now?

>>74938138
>Greeks are dumb
So how come they fathered Western civilization?

>>74970259
dude, i swear to god that no one gives a fuck, also iceland is a frozen shithole, i don't know what are you so uppity about

>>74970292
I think his post was trying to say Iceland had no great people of worth when the Allies occupied it.

>>74970100
maybe you are a 1st world but you are a teeny weeny 1st world away from the rest of us so we may not be aware of how good you are :D
also sudacas are crazy and have hot bundas so we love them. and you guys seem cold and boring as fish . so please don't bully them. thank you.

>>74970292
>Be Americlap
>Don't have reading comprehension
Can't say I'm surprised

>>74970317
>iceland is a frozen shithole
You're right, Iceland is a frozen shithole, and has been for over 1000 years since my people first came, and yet Iceland is still a better place to live than Columbia.

Compulsory voting might be one of the reasons desu

Not voting is illegal in many south american countries. Peru, for example, restricts access to your bank account if you don't vote.
That leads to unengaged voters and politicians that don't need to appeal to the voters' civic ideals so they go out and vote, which in turn leads to a society that's disconnected with politics.

>>74970348
what do you mean about a "better place to live"? you're saying it like if it wasn't something subjective, me and most of colombian people would prefer to live in here than in a frozen shithole with nothing to do than being around ice and autistic people all day, if you think that muh hdi and muh "best countries to live index" really matter to anyone that not enough to take all that bullshit you're complete braindead

>>74970408
*anyone that's not dumb enough

>>74970408
I'm glad most Colombians would rather live in a hot shithole than in Iceland.
We ain't got room for you.
What I'm saying is, my country is a frozen shit hole, and YET we're still a better and safer place to live than Columbia
Columbia could be a decent place to live like Italy, but no, you guys are just above African tier.
Also, I'm pretty sure sub-Saharan Africans, starving and dying of diseases would rather live in their African shithole than a South-American country like Colombia.

>>74970467
>We ain't got room for you.
it really annoys me that you're talking like if iceland was a paradise or something, the only people that like iceland are autistic faggots who are too stupid to interact with people and want to move to a country where everyone is as autistic as them
>better
tell me what's ""better"" about iceland, please, i really want to know

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>>74970538
>you're talking like if iceland was a paradise
I'm not, I've said multiple times that Iceland is a Frozen shit hole, you illiterate nigger.
I'm saying that my country should be some kind of barren wasteland shithole where people live in poverty and nobody has any desire to come to, like deep Siberia, Greenland or Svalbard.
But yet here we are, still more livable than fucking Colombia, a country that has no business being as shitty as it is.
FUCK sake, why the fuck is my frozen shit hole better than your piece of shit country?
It boggles the mind.
Its like if Antarctica was more prosperous and a better place to live than the USA.
>the only people that like iceland are autistic faggots who are too stupid to interact with people and want to move to a country where everyone is as autistic as them
Oh yeah, you sound like a logical person alright

>tell me what's ""better"" about iceland, please, i really want to know
Here is an example
Remember that time that you had such a big fucking drug problem that you had to deploy the fucking military to fix it?
Oh wait, that's still going on.

>>74970671
>I'm saying that my country should be some kind of barren wasteland shithole where people live in poverty and nobody has any desire to come to, like deep Siberia, Greenland or Svalbard.
you keep saying this, do you want a medal or something? because no one really cares about this but you

>still more livable than fucking Colombia
what the fuck is more livable?, you have yet not given me a good example

>Remember that time that you had such a big fucking drug problem that you had to deploy the fucking military to fix it?
being 100% honest, no

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reviviendo mapitas

>>74970835
there are any cities in the extreme south of chile??

it might be a nice place to visit

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qué lindos que son los mapas