How long can their right-wing authoritarian regimes last? When

>>74919912
They'll remain. The tide's turning, leftie.

Free Soros schools for everyone

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>>74919941
Resistance against the right is mobilizing too.

if it weren't for mass immigration, nobody would vote for right wing parties apart from the rich

the left needs to realise this

Easter europeans are and will always be subhumans dragging us down

we should let russian annex them

>>74920175
A bunch of students and old baby boomer hippies.

Look, the main problem is mass immigration. They cannot see the damage it does to societies. We have to have a far more strict and controlled immigration system.

Orban isn't going away, PIS will go down.

>>74920228
this

>>74920175
>>74920335
Also, get rid of the stupid idea that there's no borders and we're all one race. This type of globalisation is cancerous.

Don't worry, once elections roll around they'll be replaced by enlightened democratic leaders like Borisov, Babis, and Vucic who embrace Europe.

>>74919941
>literally got btfo in Finland when it was their game to win
>marcron won by a landslide by virtue of not being LePen
>wilders was projected to straight up win the dutch elections and couldn't even manage that
>trump is tracking to become the most unpopular president in all of american history
Hmmmmm

>>74920569
>literally got btfo in Finland when it was their game to win
>marcron won by a landslide by virtue of not being LePen
>wilders was projected to straight up win the dutch elections and couldn't even manage that

The fact that they got so close to gaining leadership is enough. I don't even like those parties, but I fucking hate how detached the elites have become. If things don't change (i.e not create a better immigration system) those populist parties aren't going anywhere, they'll only gain more support.

>>74920228
>>74920335
Orbán got into power long before refugee crisis and Poland wasn't affected by mass immigration at all.

>far right parties in countries that have next to no immigration are caused by mass migration
westerners project like they swallowed a light bub and are using their ass to navigate the attic.

>Kaczyński
until next elections

>>74921192
I've heard that PiS wants to enact a new constitution.

>>74919912
>>74920175
>>74920868
>>74921464
Do you realise that you Antifa niggers are no different than Nazis?

>>74920569
>literally got btfo in Finland when it was their game to win
Are you retarded? Don't ever bring up my country if you don't have a fucking clue about it

>>74919912
Hahahahahahaha authoritanian! You can literally do anything in those two countries, from protests to hijacking homilies in church to spread pro abortion rhetoric. Just because libs, or actual communists aren't in power doesn't mean they're neonazis ya tit.

>>74920397
Look at the polls again.

>>74920445
I don't know much about Balkans, so I don't have any opinion on Vucic or Borisov.

Babiš is a special case though. No coherent ideology, wants to run the state like a business. He's more euroskeptical than the current Czech PM, a social democrat Bohuslav Sobotka.

>>74921769
What polls?

>>74921719
Those countries are turning into soft autocracies. They can't be Putin's Russia while they're still in the EU.

Judiciary, public media, independent academia are under pressure. You can't have rule of law without independent courts.

>>74921821
The ones youre apparently not looking at. PiS has the highest popularity of any party, to the effect that it will have a majority should elections happen now.

>>74921921
*They can't be as oppressive as Putin's Russia

>>74920868
True, but it was reported today that the EU is still set on Hungary re-settlling 1200-something refugees.
As long as the EU keeps pushing agendas like this, Orbán can put up his show of fighting the evil Brussels bureocrats on forced immigration. And election is in a little less than a year. He can drag this out until that.
Obviously there are other things that will be steering the course of the campaign and other things that shape their popularity, but this is a big factor in the average joe's mind to keep them voting Fidesz.

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>>74921921
Hello Shlomo. Why npt go back to rebbit to promote your shitty EU?

>>74921719
Currently Hungary has been attempting to shut down a university and their treatment of the press is getting worse and worse. Poland is just byldo country so that's more just the citizenry beating you up because you did something they didn't like.

>>74921921
They do have independent courts, but the whole court system is so disfunctional over half the population is dissatisfied. That's why there are reforms and allegations, mostly from the opposition, that they are breaking the rule of law.

>>74921959
Orbán lost some voters to Jobbik after backing down in the CEU row.

There's no guarantee that Orbán's eventual successor will be from a democratic part of the opposition.

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>>74921981
You know that only "university" that was treated to close is a diploma mill scam? And they operate even today.
>>74922005
Courts are filled with ex-communists

Slowvaks were mistake

>>74921981
I have not heard of Hungarian press crackdowns. ELI5?

>>74921959
>re-settlling 1200-something refugees
>this is a big factor in the average joe's mind to keep them voting Fidesz
It's a nice deflection by Fidesz but Hungarians should be more worried the vast corruption going on in their country. It's a shame EU doesn't put more pressure on them regarding corruption.

>>74922051
>democratic part of the opposition.
You mean Goldman Sachs employee like Bajnai? Or gyurcsany the one who pushed our economy to -9% gdp fall?

>>74922109
That's because the EU is a toothless tiger and they simply can't do anything.

>>74922109
OLAF can't do anything except withdraw EU funding. Orbán friendly oligarchs will get their money anyway (but from the member state's budget) and no one will be prosecuted.

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>>74919912
>How long can their right-wing authoritarian regimes last?
FOREVER AND EVER
AVE MARIA
GAUDE MATER POLONIA
VIVAT VISEGRAD

>>74922105
Its the same extreme liberals crying about press freedom since 2010. In their own media.
>>74922109
Nobody cares about rapefugees. Its the eu and other cucks that bring this up every time we mentioned

>>74922051
Yea but still by far Fidesz has the best voters. And a part of their voter base is pretty much religious in trusting whatever they say.
And frankly, at this point even Jobbik seems like a more democratic option next to them.

>>74922064
>is a diploma mill scam
Yea nice propaganda bullshit there.
Would a large portion of international academia stand by a scam?

>>74922129
There was this thing, you know - Global economic crisis. As an export oriented economy, we were in a recession too.

>>74922193
>Orbán friendly oligarchs
You know that olaf only found corruption from the socialist goverment terms? Of course you know.

>>74921941
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Polish_parliamentary_election
these?

>>74922301
Yes. Keep in mind that in order tk be in government you need 5% of the vote.

>>74922261
>large portion
According to extreme liberal media who loves doctor refugees. Diploma mill scam like that is illegalnin Germany Sweden or Italy. This is why they run it from here

>>74922276
>Global economic crisis.
From 2006? Because they admited that they fucked it up in2006.
And we were in free fall from 2006-2009

>>74922109
>but Hungarians should be more worried the vast corruption going on in their country
I'm aware m8.
Yet majority of people have no idea about the scale of corruption going on, those media outlets that reach most people are Fidesz controlled. There are a few online news sites, but the average countryside person doesn't read those.
And even if the news of corruption reach people, they just react like "oh but the previous ones were corrupt too', 'at least it's going to Hungarian people now' etc.

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>>74920397
>>74921192
>PIS will go down.
>until next elections
bwahahaha
>>74920868
>Poland wasn't affected by mass immigration at all.
Yes, exactly.
>>74921981
>Currently Hungary has been attempting to shut down a university
You mean the one owned by Soros?
Why is >a fucking leaf commenting on this anyway? You know nothing.

>>74922261
>Fidesz has the best voters
I meant to say most. Damn.

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>>74922428
>reads libshit media filled with translated reddit posts and praising scientists refugees
>im better than you

>>74919912
>it's a slovakian baizuo post

>>74922375
Yea, Oxford and Cambridge and many other international top schools, and numerous Nobel laureates and the Hungarian MTA are all just a bunch of extreme liberals who stand by a scam, amirite?

>>74922568
>leaf 50 cent army

>>74922645
You mean those cherrypicked few nobody presented by libcuck media as big names? Topkek.
They probably got their diploma from similar scam

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>>74919912
When the Imperium crumbles at the end of the 41st millenium

>>74922645
>Nobel laureates
Like Obama? How prestigious and scientific.

>>74922777
No, they found some liteal nobody who works for the Noble comitee. This was done by a "news site" who is owned by an investor group that Soros owns.

>>74922777
Nice trips

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>>74922733
>>74922777
>>74922866
lefties BTFO, digits confirm

>>74922105
One of the biggest online news sites, Origo was bought a few years ago by groups close to Fidesz, it is basically just a propaganda site now.
The state media, whose funding reached never before seen hights under Fidesz is also nothing but a mouthpiece for the party. And for some people, it is the primary, if not only source of information.
The county newspapers (most of them) were bought by Orbán's biggest oligarch, and see above.
One of the opposition newspapers, Népszabadság (which was used to be owned by the socialist party) also got bought by this same oligarch, and was shut down immediately, the reason being that it had financial problems and was unprofitable (duh, then why did he buy it...).
These are just some examples that were fairly recent.

Explain how those authoritarian regimes oppress us.

>>74923034
Népszabadság was owned by an austrian media group. It was also the communist party paper since the 50s.
So independent lel

>>74922866
Ahem.

http://www.portfolio.hu/gazdasag/14_nobel-dijas_is_kiall_a_ceu_mellett.246436.html

off-topic, I just wanna say that the Hungarian definite/indefinite conjugation is driving me nuts

>>74923229
>portfolio
Run by extreme libshit refugeelover index. Also nice paywall shlomo

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>>74923073
>Explain how those authoritarian regimes oppress us.
Wow. Just WOW. Seriously?
Ummmm
racist much???

http://www.politico.eu/article/support-for-hungary-sanctions-builds-among-meps/

http://www.politico.eu/article/poland-rule-of-law-constitution-europe-pushes-talk-not-action-to-deal-with-problem/

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>>74924227
>politico.eu
Kek. Nice trade union btw

>>74921580

Well the last elections (kuntavaalit)
didn't go that well for PerusS?

I'm not leftie btw

>>74921921
>soft autocracies
>soft self rulerships
You mean like the democracies of the west?

>These nobel laureates don't count they are all scam and the man is keeping right wing down
Fags

>>74924543
Not even Putin or Erdogan are full-on despots. Nowadays, you don't need theatrical coups to dismantle constitutional order. It's a gradual, creeping process.

>validly criticize regime
>NIGGER, LIBERAL, MUSLIM
really now, I didn't know the education system in these countries were so shitty

>>74925198
When they go low, we go high, as Michelle Obama said.

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>>74925198
>validly
>criticize

>>74925198
It used to be quite good, or at least okay, but it's gradually getting worse...

>>74924227
>le sanctions
What a spicy meme
How exactly can an EU member be sanctioned without unanimous support for such decision of all the other members?

>>74925437
so this is the power of reddit

All eastern european shitholes outside of Slovenia are South American tier in terms of wages and wealth.
What would a few niggers and arabs change? The countries are already shitholes.

If i'm from a western, super rich and faggy country, I would want zero immigration to not ruin it in the future, but here? Who really cares.

>>74930161
>What would a few niggers and arabs change?
That the chances of not being shitholes in future would decrease substantially.

>>74921532
>Do you realise that you Antifa niggers are no different than Nazis?

>No one can be anything but alt-right or antifa anymore

Uuuuuugh.

Wasn't the issue with the CEU that they were giving out American Diplomas with a Hungarian course structure, and that they refused to issue Hungarian diplomas or switch to an American course structure? Or was it just Orbán being paranoid about Soros again?

>>74920868
yes, because the previous party fucked up itself so hard and there's no real opposition ever since

>>74933455
fucked itself up* extremely hard and there's no real opposition ever since

we sorta are free but

the state is too strong, like in communism
we have like 4? state televisions, what for, an entire news channel, ala america

the state controls the distribution of the EU money, infrastructure projects, its buys and sells alot of shit, its the biggest factor in the economy

the state or close to the state businessmen purchases newspapers, online media, legally getting control over these

they havent ruled out anything, but they slowly and steadily get in everywhere

meanwhile in reasonable time, we will run out of doctors (freshly graduateds leave), manual labor (too low wages), and if nothing changes we will be 8million instead of 10, and every 3rd family lives under minimal living standards

Problem in Poland is that we got kaczynski with pis and tusk with po, and both parties are same bullshit with minor difference in religion and eu.
But both of them push this stupid war through their propaganda tubes so no opposition could rise and and people only care about those two.
Meanwhile they change seats back and foward keeping in power.

>>74933843
>both parties are same bullshit with minor difference in religion and eu.
A few years back I would agree, but currently their differences aren't so minor anymore.

>>74934192
Well, since election I noticed that po takes more and more from pis and pis didn't change that much from what po introduced while in power. They both slowly coming to one point.

>>74920175

>A few thousand soros founded shills
>represent a majority

Not even once m8

>>74919912
It will last until the last antifa will die.

>>74920240

Kys nigger

>>74921192

Nope Kike PO will never come back

>>74921921
>>74921958

>leftist delusion

>>74921981
>>74922109
>>74922261
>>74922428
>>74922645
>>74923034
>>74923229
>>74924227
>>74930161

>Soros funded shills