Can europeons buy good healthcare or are they stuck with

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life is cheap and worthless here.

this is why we want you to immigrate here.

join us in our hell


suffer with us

>>74848746
Leave Žižek alone.

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>>74848746
*loads slingshot with rocks*
Hold still, sweetie.

Ah yes, I'll have one health care please. A good one. Not the shoddy one you sold me last time. Thank you.

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>every single top tier treatment facility in USA
>All cutting edge research in USA

>Everyone who deserves healthcare has it either from their parents or their salaried profession

we don't tax successful people to support parasites her

>>74848866
go drink your cucumber water

>>74849048
>>74849048
you do now as far as I understand it, ever since comrade obama took office

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>being proud of one of the most inefficient healthcare system in the world

>>74849211
go make a communism thread

Radrigez

>>74849048
>some people deserve to die in the streets
Watch out so you don't cut yourself on that edge, pretty sure you parents healthcare wouldn't cover that.

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>>74849211
>Being proud of the undeserving making your nation mediocre

>>74849048
>$1000 a month

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>>74849279
>We must cover all costs of living for these Muslim rapefugees or we're edgy

>buying healthcare
>not getting it automatically as part of your citizenship in a 1st world country
I pity you poor souls

>>74849366
Did Fox news told you that, Tyrone?

>>74849378
no one is going to give you anything good for free

that especially include health care.

a socialist doctor isnt really a doctor just a euthanasia assistant

>>74849491
>a socialist doctor

>>74849491
If only all Poles felt the same then maybe they would stay away.

>>74849366
¨>poor and sick people deserve to be poor and sick, we must watch watch as our nation is torn apart by unrestrained individualism
Have fun with the autism.

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>everyone with money flys to the United States Of America for healthcare

>Trying to claim your healthcare is anywhere near as good as ours

Poors and uninsured not invited.

>>74849543
Im just speaking for myself

faggot

I'd rather stick it out at home when I get sick than visit one of these half assed ((((((doctor))))) practitioners here

last time I went to the hospital here they almost poisoned me to death

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>>74849551
Have fun with the insanely oppressive taxation and muzzies.

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>"American healthcare system is works over European ones an---"

>>74849617
[citation needed]
Never heard that before.

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>having a private-funding Healthcare system.
>It's way more expensive than a european univeral Healthcare system.
>Being proud for it.

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>>74849751
>B-but we must oppress our successful people's with taxation in order to insure the minorities and unemployed drug addicts

shaking my head at the union of yuropeon cuckolds

>>74849681
>too much of a pussy to just round up all the undesirables and kill them
>oh I know, let's design a system that will lead to a massive loss of cohesion within our own nation
Truly, you are the very model of the post national american.

>>74849814
This is FAR preferable to yuro taxes.

>>74849865
We keep our undesirables in containment cities and they have no influence on our white states and towns

Your minorities rule you both legally and economically, plus they pollute your towns and cuck you.

>>74849662
really

>>74849899
>lets privatise everything so companies can pump up prices while lowering quality
I mean it doesn't hurt me in any way that Americans prefer this I just can't see the point.

>>74849953
>they have no influence
>the amerimutt truly believes this
The new world was a mistake, not only are you to cheap to help your fellow countrymen fallen on hard times but you are also completely delusional.

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>amerigums

>>74850053
>All the top hospitals and research in America
>Anyone who needs serious treatment or can't afford a huge yuro wait and can afford it flies here

?

Never heard "you get what you pay for" (or in this case, what you're insured for)?

>>74848746
ofc. if you don't have money here to buy some sort of private healthcare then you're poor as shit. Private healthcare here means basically no waiting lines

>>74850025
really

I endured stomach and intestinal damage when they fed me pills which I was supposed to take inhaling

protip...do not seek any medical assistance in this idiot ridden third world (((((country))))))

>yurocucks will never ever EVER have an argument that doesn't rely on the fact that we don't care about people who don't deserve healthcare

>>74850147
Ok, so you can buy a fast track but you can't buy the premium treatment that only the USA has.

>>74850138
>Anyone who needs serious treatment or can't afford a huge yuro wait and can afford it flies here
This doesn't actually happen though. We have private hospitals here as well.

>>74850211
>poor people deserve to die

>>74850245
please enligthen me on what premium treatment is? McDonalds inside the hospital?

>>74850245
>premium treatment that only the USA has.

>>74850373
>>74850340
Top hospitals and research, lads

Plus the FDA basically dictates all healthcare in the world.

Of course you can. You can always opt out of the public system and buy private health insurance if you can afford it.

Btw, I had an NPR alert titled 'Why is the American maternal death rate this high?' Topkek, I wonder why

>>74850211
The argument is that our system is cheaper while being more effective and having 100% covered. Why do Americans like to pay more for worse service?

do americans really believe we wait 5 years for a heart transplantation performed by 3rd world tier doctors?

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>>74849834
we seem to have a bunch more of minorities and druggies than them despite our austere stance with personal responsability. Who knew that American hyper-individualism promotes multi-racialism and an uncollective society while collective societies are opposite. Meanwhile, when minorities in some European countries that are tolerant to having them, commit a lot of crimes but those countries still have effective overall crime rates lower than us, it's proof of Europe's social model not working. When it happens here, and there's been all of those nasty things you like to bring up about the downside of those parasites (such as the riots, mass rapes, violent crime, ect) that have been existing for decades and haven't been reduced. Your de-facto solution to those is that of telling whites here who are rich enough to escape to the sub-urbs and who are able to afford their own care to do-so, and not approach to solving those aforementioned issues. The result is we have a degenerate soulless society. There's European cunts that don't have minorities or issues that you mention while still having large safety nets, and the ones who do have those issues can more easily solve those than us. But either way, we run away from ours with the tail between our legs and allow minorities to run wild in our cities, while Europeans still live in theirs.

>>74850474
I wonder why the country with the best healthcare in the world has such high infant mortality?
Could it be because it turns out that feeding newborns burgers on all those premium clinics wasn't such a great idea after all?

>>74850543
>pay more to make sure that poor people aren't covered
American logic

>>74850630
95% of Shartians have Somalia tier care.

This tryhard of the americans is so lame desu.

Lol, does OP really think that he doesn't pay for Jamal's ER visit and emergency operation when he didn't go to get a little infection treated for a fraction of the cost because he had no insurance? This is the real reason American healthcare is more expensive and OP I can assure you that you are paying for it, too.

>>74850576
The UK has a shitty healthcare system 2bh
That's where they get the stories from.

>>74850664
All yuropoor lies, every single american who deserves healthcare has it.

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>buy healthcare

>>74849048
>Everyone who deserves healthcare
>deserves healthcare
This fucking nigger.
No wonder your nation is becoming a Mexican colony.

>>74850169
can't you go private

>>74850834
americans are so screwed

>>74850741
God you're such a faggot

>>74850955
Idiot

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>he's unable to defend the fact that he is cucked out of massive chunks of income to pay for the healthcare of drug addicts and muzzies

>>74851000
Blow off dumb clognigger, when your defence spending is anything above nonexistent point zero recurring you get the right to talk shit

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>>74851109
but americans pay more

>>74850592
>despite our austere stance with personal responsability
How many billions of tax payer money did the US government hand over to the banking elite after they were responsible for ruining the American economy, then?
American society seems to promote the idea that only those without money are supposed to be responsible, while the rich can get away with murder.

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>>74851153
The poors do, but anyone worthwhile pays less due to much lower taxes

> the muzzie version
What the fuck is wrong with Americans perspective on the world

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>>74851191
No, americans pay more for their healthcare.

>>74850576
The individualist literally do believe that. They believe you will have to wait 2 weeks after getting shot to get healed at an emergency room.
>>74850543
Because we're cucks.
>>74850481
their reasoning goes like this:
>"I don't want to pay for Shayniqwa and her 26 little niglets from getting healthcare and always going to the emergency room every-time she experiences some drivel issue !"
But Shayniqwa is on Medicaid regardless because she doesn't give a shit about getting a job, and she still does that.
>"Then we shall get rid of Medicaid too! Fuck those leeches!"
The GOP hasn't backed any of that, so that's an unrealistic pipe-dream. And even if they did manage to do that, Shayniqwa will still just go to the emergency room regardless and still get treated and not pay for the bill without Medicaid. She wouldn't care. She doesn't have any assets worth suing over, and no debt collector would bother taking every loud ghetto nigress to court for payment. The cost will just be driven up on those who have insurance who go in, but at a much inflated cost for all the administrative paper-work, budget mishap, and every other complication from her refusal to pay them. South Africa is proof that even after leeching off of social services and seeing them get cut, niggers still won't become more fiscally responsible all of the sudden in a response and be less of a menace.

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>>74851200
t. Man being invaded and cucked by Muslim refugees, controlled by leftists, disarmed and stripped of rights, and subservient to his Eurofuhrer

>>74851191
>implying you are worthwhile
Do you think your parents enjoy paying for both your autism medication AND you rampant Ayn Rand addiction?

You don't "deserve" healthcare you stupid fatty

>>74851274
>>74851274

My salaried profession says otherwise, cuckolds.

And before that my parents being upstanding citizens had me covered.

>>74851109
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008
>resident George W. Bush signed the bill into law within hours of its congressional enactment, creating the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) to purchase failing bank assets.[13] TARP was dwarfed by other guarantees and lending limits; analysis by Bloomberg found the Federal Reserve had, by March 2009, committed $7.77 trillion to rescuing the financial system, more than half the value of everything produced in the U.S. that year.
So you think you're superior for letting poor people to continue to circle the drain and bring down society, have trillions of your tax payer dollars going towards irresponsible bankers who ruined your economy, all because some European countries have a modern health care system?

The fuck is wrong with you?
Your cancerous society really will be the end of us.

>>74851109
You don't get, right? You are paying for it as well but the difference is that in your case people are uninsured shy away from going to the doctor for minor shit that later develop in full-blown, expensive emergencies that will never paid off. These lost costs result in higher premiums for ordinary people like you.

So the result is a system where not everyone is covered but where it's more expensive for those that are.

There literally is no rational argument to. defend this madness that is the American system.

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The USA is shit too...far from a first world country

if they didnt spend most of their budget on their kike world order agenda and more on their public sector their (((((country)))) may actually not currently be turning into russia 2.0 currently


no murka stfu cuz youre nothing grand either

Imagine going into debt after losing your legs in a car accident that you didn't have insurance on

>>74851241
t. man who thinks his peashooter and the copy of the bills of rights he has shoved up his ass at any given hour will protect him against the hordes of niggers and spics that has been infesting his unfortunate mistake of a country since it's inception

>>74851316
>And before that my parents being upstanding citizens had me covered.
What a fucking Jewish attitude. "Muh chosen people deserve everything."
No wonder America see an ally in Israel.

>>74850245
You can get private healthcare here mate

>Retarded Euros who would be a warm wet Russian cock socket if it weren't for Americans paying their weed lmao lifestyles in danegeld and military protection
No one is impressed with your gay welfare states you fannies
Absolutely pathetic that this is what European pride has been reduced to

>>74849048
>>74850138
>"It is infuriating that this malfunctioning bureaucracy [of private healthcare] is endangering lives. American healthcare has a couple of toes in the grave despite the fact that our medical science is the most advanced on earth. When a sheik or a king rubs his belly and discovers a troubling lump, it is highly unlikely that he'll board his personal jet and fly to a country with socialized medicine. Far from it. He'll fly straight to the Mayo clinic. In fact just about anyone who can afford to come to the United States for healthcare will do so. And yet top-of-the-line American medical science is out of reach of most Americans... Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare."

-Donald Trump, "The America We Deserve"

Do you think you know better about fiscal planning than some self-made billionaire, fuck-boi?

>>74851241
The existence of the NSA and PRISM completely refutes any claims of rights you think you have, moron.
Cry about the government taking away your bangsticks but perfectly happy with them monitoring your every single fucking communication.
No a lick of self awareness.

>>74851424
"White" americans have no identity, instead they aspire to emulate their jewish overlords.

>>74851500
>self-made billionaire
Trump inherited his fortune, you fucking moron.

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>>74851500
>self-made

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My sister and parents are dragging me to a european vacation trip to Barcelona, Paris, and London
What can I do in the three weeks I'll be there to not be killed? And not pay up the ass with Yuroshit taxes and spend 20 dollars for breakfast every day. I know summer in tourist areas are the biggest hotspot for "cultural enrichment"

>>74851447
>the russian federation is in a position to threaten europe
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>but m-muh soviet union
Oh you mean the soviet union who's only adversary you teamed up to destroy and then handed over half of Europe to, is that the one you're thinking of?

>>74851567
>>74851591
I was joking you retards. Read my entire comment and the guy I was responding to, next time.

>>74851447
>t. The toothless fairy

>>74851602
break your leg on purpose and go to a hospital in the US to avoid going with them


thats what I'd do

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>>74851602
you can start with turning off fox news

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>>74850790
>be american
>get cucked by corporations and mr. Shekelberg
>think you're free because you're allowed to own a peashooter and to say "nigger" in free speech zones

>>74851602
The three weeks in Europe will at least statistically increase your lifespan.

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>>74848746
>>74849048
>>74849366
>>74849617
>>74851191
>>74851602
why is it that there's been no examples of
a developed country with universal healthcare going back to a privatized system, or adopting one like ours? it really fires your almonds.

>>74851671
A lot has changed in 5 years
>>74851728
What do you mean?
>>74851746
cause yuroniggers are all dictated by that cunt merkel, and can't work for shit so they can't buy their own healthcare

>>74851728
comrade

he's going to get stabbed here by a moroccan the moment he gets off the place, his iPhone stolen and his sister fucked on the spot


and he wont be able to do anything because his gun will be confiscated

>>74851813
Hush, don't tell the americans, we want them to come here and enrich us with their superior culture.

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>>74851804
How is Merkel making them having a universal healthcare systems? She isn't even the head of the EU or anything. Why has no EU country even fought with EU courts to privatize their systems if that's true? They have no problem fighting other shit the EU dictates.

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>>74851804
from august 2016, still ukraine-tier

>>74849662
But we're arguing between fellow 1st worlders here.
Of course healthcare in Western europe is good. And it's not free, you pay for it with taxes.

>>74851804
The US has one of the lowest life expectancies in the western world while France and Spain are among the highest so living there for a week will increase your lifespan a bit kek.

Also, kek, Puerto Rico has a higher life expectancy than the mainland US!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

>>74851804
You realize we can purchase private healthcare here right?

>>74852007
meh, you faggots are no better than this place

so stop waiving your shit in the air like it dont stink


this aint the 50ies no more

froggy

>>74851959
>>74852063
the yuropoor is a socialist animal by nature who doesn't mind giving half its paycheck to government so they can wait months for their physical examinations

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>>74851804
>cause yuroniggers are all dictated by that cunt merkel

>>74852069
> you faggots are no better than this place
You don't really believe this do you ?

*Hans steadily unfastens his pants and seats himself atop the dragon dildo throne as he reads HDI statistics about a country he's never been to while Somalis rape and slaughter his pensioners and seven million T*rks literally rewrite his decrepit country's gene pool*

>>74852114
actually I do

corrupt kikes/secularists and commies run this shithole just as badly as they run yours

>be religious country
>lack empathy to have a healthcare system that doesn't screw over your poor people

There are private clinics but considering people get 50% or more of their wages stolen, many have no choice but to enjoy the disaster that is government controlled healthcare.

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>>74852135

>>74852147
I was talking about average quality of life.

>>74852241
do you have english comprehension problems?


perhaps you should reread what I wrote

>>74851959
It's simple, Le Pen and the British far right masquerading under Brexit* have painted Merkel as a Nazi conquering Europe, which has been parroted by Trump fans who believe there's similarity in the causes.

*Disclaimer, I don't mean Brexit is a Nazi plot, Brits were right to leave the union if they so desired. I'm talking about the fact that groups with agendas far beyond Brexit jumped on the Front national bandwagon. Clearly not the normal right wing.

>>74852240
4chinz is an English language board mate

>>74852289
I think you do.

How this "shithole" or yours is run has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
You claim that my "shithole" is as badly run as yours, yet the qualitiy of life in mine (including healthcare) is much higher than in yours.

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>hehehehe, those dumb Eurocucks. Who says our healthcare is expensive? Don't they know that all you need to do is find a good job that offers an insurance plan, pay 1 grand every month, make sure that you always act like a cuck around your boss and allow him to fuck your wife so you don't get fired and lose your plan, first pay the first $4000 deductible before having insurance pay for anything, haggle with your insurance and the hospital for over 2 months with over 20 total hours spent on the phone about getting them to cover parts of your bill, while finally at the end of all of this get off with the sweet sweet deal of paying $1657 out of pocket for your wife to give birth? I swear, don't they understand that's it isn't usury to offer ridiculous charges because you might be able to haggle those prices down if they're benevolent enough. Surely this is proof that the privatized system works. I swear that my wait-time for all of this would be longer in Europe. Just imagine having socialized care and having your population immediately turn non-white--thank god that doesn't happen here!"

>>74852402
>LEVEL 1, quantity 19, 52.82$
>LEVEL 3, quantity 38, 212.04$
What the fuck are these obscure services provided in big quantities ?

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>>74852536
Aid For Israel is also deducted on the spot.


HEY JUST LIKE IN FRANCE!!!

>>74852536
i have no idea. hospitals can word it differently to confuse insurances and people. They're literally the most jewish institutions here in the US, even more than Universities. Even banks here are pretty up-front and willing to disclose their service costs to you before you use them.

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>put money in savings account instead of paying monthly for healthcare
>have plenty of money for medical emergencies
Seriously why aren't you doing this?

>>74852677
The healthcare argument is every yurofuck's last resort argument against americans and even then they get taxed up the arse for it
I just came ITT to ask how to spend 3 weeks there and not be beheaded in the name of sharia

>>74852677
Because medical emergencies are rarely a one-off and often have long lasting effects you'll be paying for?
I don't think you've got a job yet if you think insurance is just a Jewish trick.

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Speaking of Islam, surely your wife (or wives) are part of the Obedient Wives Club, inshallah?

>>74852738
>then they get taxed up the arse for it
You pay more lol.

>>74852677
Ah yes. I also remember being 5 years old and not understanding how insurance works.

>>74852862
At least I have money to pay for medical emergencies with
If I don't want health insurance and I don't want to pay for anyone else's I shouldn't have to pay a dime

>>74852909
insurance is a scam

it's why youre seeing more and more cases of people being by law forced to have insurances

>>74852677
>>have plenty of money for medical emergencies
No you won't. Unless you have close to 100k.

>>74853133
what the fuck kind of injuries are you sustaining? You make it sound like we get gangrenes on a weekly basis

>>74853225
But that's what an emergency is.

>members of the union of yuropeon cuckolds will never ever EVER understand why subhumans don't have a legit claim to your income no matter what thing they claim they deserve

>>74853225
You have no idea of how expensive medical treatment can be apparently

>>74853225
you do know that there's routine cases of people racking up a couple hundred thousands from serious car-crashes, right? Good-luck spending your life savings on all of that just to come out and be unable to work again because your foot and hands got fucked up during it, you dumb monkey.

>>74853225
Ask your parents why they have insurance, the answer may surprise you.

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>>74853314
>What is insurance

I know 4chan is full of autistic shut in NEETs but you do know that people with worth and value have this, right?

>>74853225
You could get hit by a car tomorrow, suffer from a fractured skull, require extensive reconstruction surgery, brain surgery and long rehabilitation and 100k would not be enough.

>>74853225
>>74853314
>>74853343
>>74853371
>>74853374
>t. People who never heard of insurance

>>74853333
nice quads and I comepletely agree


just keep doing everything opposite these socialist yurotrash mafiozos do and north america will always be one step ahead of this shithole continent

>>74853401
And with insurance you only owe a few thousand you stupid fucking nigger retard.

>>74853426
>>t. People who never heard of insurance
What? We're telling him insurance is necessary.

>>74853426
we're replying to a guy who explicitly said that he isn't going to purchase insurance but just rely on his savings instead,.

>>74853477
Thanks to insurance it doesn't matter how much you have saved retard.

And anyone who deserves healthcare will have private insurance either via occupation or private funds.

>>74853465
THAT'S HIS POINT, learn to read

>>74853465
Are you illiterate? Might buy some insurance for eye surgery.

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>>74853485
>>74853477
>He fell for a false flag

And people said /int/ is a good board

>>74853549
Ah, you were only pretending to be retarded, my bad.

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>>74853575
>Everyone is the same poster

why are yuros so bad at 4channing?

insurances may work in a society where honesty is a virtue everyone aspires to.

but in a corrupt country

it's just another way to be robbed by politicians and corporations on a false pretext.

>>74853401
Maybe you don't know who you're replying to. I'm not this guy >>74852677
Health insurance is okay, government healthcare is what I don't approve of. What I mean is all you do is ask "what if" like we suffer extreme medical emergencies that cost a fucking mortgage worth of money every single day

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>be american
>have birth
>pay 200 thousand dollars
>go bankrupt
>ja'squasha just pops a baby out in the back of her car for free

>anything that's bad for America is good for the world
Always keep this golden standard in mind. That's why I support the current American healthcare system and hope Trump gets a second term.

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>>74855570
I don't have to say anything for you to realize how apparent your inferiority complex is.

>>74848746
>be American
>have cancer
>bill $100000
>shock and die by heart attack

>>74849617
yurotrash on suicide watch