Why won't the Russians in these countries move to Russia

they were born there, they have their lifes built there

>>74763103
I don't think they are complaining there. Russians in the baltics however are constantly and calling them fascists etc

>>74763086
By that logic, we should also support the Albanians in Kosovo.

>>74763339

Dumb logic, that land was always Russian, while Albanians occupied the place.

>>74763153
Maybe it's because of the discrimination against them

Why won't niggers leave USA and move back to Africa?

>>74764892
Because they'd rather live in a more developed country.

Oh, I see where you're getting at this.

>>74764732
what discrimination?

>>74763086
bullshit they're mono-lingual old fucks,all the ones born here moved further west

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>>74763069

good idea. i am all for anschluss all russian territories to russia fuck that way.

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>>74767934

rolf. latvia flag is trying to start a troll wave.

>>74767985
im serious.

>>74768000
>serious.

rolf.. will you also run away when i contorted you with hard facts my sprotennigger?

>>74768019
go ahead.

>>74764691
Nah, land was never Russian you Serbian piece of shit.

>>74764732
>>74767985
>>74768019
Ah yes "the discrimination " meme. Same old shit for 500 years.

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>>74768035
>Nah, land was never Russian

niggle russians BOUGHT your land 3 times already. they even hold the herritage of soviet union. BY ALL FUCKING MEANS THEY HAVE ALL RIGHTS ON BALTICS MANY TIMES OVER. even accord your fucking brain dead logics.

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>>74768088

carefully plumber. its not first time when russians and germans divided your shit hole because you chocked on land you cant swallow.

>>74768304
Learn to speak English, you pidorashka.

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>>74763103
>tfw the finns around those areas are rich as swedes

NOT FAIR, THEY SHOULD BE POOR AND STUPID LIKE MY CHILDRENSBOOKS SAY

>>74768390
yes.. yes.....Yes.

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>>74768390

rolf some piece of fish shit thinks he can insult superior beings.

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>>74768345
>russians and germans divided
Dick-riding on german succes much?

>>74768540
You've been baiting people forever and you've already been refuted, get a fucking life, you'd think you'd have a better one in Germany than in Russia.

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>>74768606

YOU SAVED EU MY PLUMBER!!

>>74768658
Why do you even look down on Poles if you are an emigre yourself? And don't pretend that Russians wouldn't flood Europe if they had the access the rest of the Eastern Europeans have, the only reason why everyone is stuck in your shithole is because they can't leave so easily, not because they don't want to. Sorry to break your fantasy of virtuous Russians fighting against the Western degeneracy while your country is on top with AIDS, homicide and abortion rates.

Just stop posting already.

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>>74768657
>You've been baiting people

AAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY LAAMMMOOOO

GUYS!! THIS PROXY PLUMBER WANT TO GIVE GERMANY ITS MONEY BACK!!

>>74768658
"Plumber" insult doesn't work when it comes from a poor third world and aids-ridden shithole

>>74768703
You have pictures of half-naked men saved to your computer for "arguing purposes", who are you even fooling Ivan.

>>74763339
we should, people just hate them cause they're albanians (kinda justified tho)

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>>74768694
>Why do you even look down on Poles

rolf. it polaken who are looking up my sprotennigger. none asked them to take that position my sprotle. all that blowjobs you give EU and USA is your own fault.

>>74768747
>hurdurdur you suck EU and NATO cock, omg why won't you love Russia, we haff never done anything wrong, we liberate u and give u werks!!

I sometimes can't tell if I am arguing with a computer with generated replies for certain keywords or an actual idiot.

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>>74768720

rolf. sproten projecting hard..

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>>74768747
> all that blowjobs you give EU and USA is your own fault.
>>74768769
just a ruskie, barely a human

>>74768785
(You).

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>>74768769
>I sometimes

you always suck my sprotenknight.. lol you suck so hard that your you cant sleep without a dick in your mouth.

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>>74768825
>hur dur dur
It's a sunny day outside.

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>>74768857
lol. all what Baltic achieved last 20 years is just sucking american dicks, loosing 60% of its population and going totally bankrupt..

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>that ruskie assblast

>>74768019
im still waiting for your hard facts.

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How can anybody leave voluntarily based Baltics?

>>74769763
Mikhail "lol зaпoд amirite" Zadornov seems to like his latvian villa a lot.

/brit/ is too bluepilled for my taste

Because they live better here. Everyone and their moms knows russia is garbage tier shit hole, even comparing to us

Also they have access to "gejropa" which many of them hate so much but muh 5x higher wages so they egearly suck its cock

>>74770149
> зaпoд
зaпaд )

>>74763069
How many Russians in those countries? About 50%? 30%? Then give them that ammount of those nations' wealth and let them go back in Russia. That would be fair.
And forcing them to leave their home country without compensation is what henocide is.

>>74778405
Nobody said anything about forcing, m8.

I don't get it, why don't they want to become part of the country they live in. Acting like arabs

>>74780569
It's a funny thing coming from a Swede. Why don't you force all immigrants, coming in your contry, to forsake their native language, accept Swedish culture and be totally forcefully assimilated then? In reality it's quite opposite, it's OK for Russians to be stripped from their native culture, but it's totally wrong to even speak about cultural adaptaiton of, for example, Syrian refugees in Sweden. You are a hypocryte. And moreover those immigrants are coming in your country from afar, but Russians was always living in Baltics. It's a huge difference.

Europeans are full of shit, because they always using double standsrts, and turning a blind eye on a borderline fascism.in their own Union.

>>74763069
Because they are blood sucking leeches that must be forcefully removed

Remove borscht

>>74780569
some still feel that the russian culture is superior even tho they aren't in russia

there are also stateless people here who don't want a russian passport so they get noncitizen passports from estonia because they don't want to learn the leanguage at a basic level to pass the citizenship test
if they have the stateless passport they can go to russia & any schengen country w/o a visa

>>74780978
Major part of business in Baltics belongs to Russians, though.

>>74768486
What children's books?

I still do not understand why all these occupants were not expelled in early 90s

>>74781031
Seize the means of production from manipulative foreigners

>>74781031
Maybe in Latvia or Estonia. In Lithuania no big business survives without knowing Lithuanian and by that point the person is most likely already assimilated.

>>74781181
Sure, I mean those people are native Russians, but they are proper citizens, who learned national language and so on. Those who don't were forced to stop business. That is what I call 'borderline fascism', but whatever.

>>74781105
I don't know about that, too. Maybe really half of those nations' population should have left, taking all the industry, which was built in those states during Soviet times, with them. And then everyone would be happy. Poor as hell, but happy.

>>74780925
>>74780925
Where do you get shit like this from? Swedes who defend refugees right to keep their heritage also defend Balto Russian's right to not assimilate into their host societies and accuse the Baltic states of oppressing their Russian minorities.

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>>74780925
Nobody is forcing anoyone to forsake their language and culture. The point is that if you live in another country, the least you can do is to learn the language and respect their traditions and country, while still keeping in touch with your own.
The point of integrating Russians is that they learn the language to be able to compete with Estonians on jthe ob market and for them to be part of the events that strenghten the unity of the people who live in this godforsaken piece of land. Be it Russians, Ukrainians, Estonians etc. who live here, it's our homeland and if we all contribute to this place, we all will have a better place to live.

>>74781327
>Those who don't were forced to stop business. That is what I call 'borderline fascism', but whatever.
Memes, memes and memes. Nobody has been forced to shut down their businesses just because they're Russian. You can create a company here and only speak Russian if you like. But it would be inable to compete with a company, where people speak Estonian, English, Finnish etc. in addition to Russian. Capitalism 101.

Also
>baltics
>happy
Pick one, Ivan-sama.

>>74781327
Baltics were donor countries, they produced more than got in return. Thinking it was Russians who did all the hard work is nonsensical.

>>74781494
OK, but what about those Russians being native to those countries and their ancestors being active participants of developing industry, infrstructure and even culture there?
When some 1st wave immigrant demands some insane rights in his new country it's a one thing, but what if those people have participated in the life of said country for a long time? Is it honest for them to have no rights of a proper citizen?

>>74781600
>learn the language to be able to compete with Estonians on the job market
I'd rather prefer to stay forever in my room.

>>74781610
As far as I know Baltics was quite autonomous states inside USSR. Calling them a 'donors' is a bit too far, since it's sounding like they were stripped from their wealth. But in reality they were the most prosperous sttes together with georgia inside USSR. And don't you agree that during Soviet times there were built a lot of industry and infrastructure?

>>74781610
Its russian proganda in schools

They truly believe that they were good guys

Its actaully really sad

>>74781842
What a stupid argument

Without your fucking help balts would be finland tier with 1st world infranstructure

t. thank you for one highway and commieblock, what a miracle

>>74781600
You are a sane person and I won't argue with you. I want to keep all those processes as civil as possible. If Russians REALLY gonna be as competitive in your country as any other national group, then it's OK with me. And I would like to see no ethnic conflicts in Baltics.

But in reality I really doubt that measures of your polititians not aimed to oppress some inconvinient part of the population for them.

>>74781842
>And don't you agree that during Soviet times there were built a lot of industry and infrastructure?

That's because industrialization and urbanization was taking place at the same time. Exactly the same thing as in other countries that didn't have communists in charge. Once people settled in cities there was a lot less movement and sprawling development.
I don't think that anything that happened under USSR was impossible otherwise.

>>74781745
They should have rights, yes, but is it wrong to demand they know the language and some history of their host nations? Assuming they have been given a fair chance to learn it.

>>74781966
Without our fucking help Hitler would have turned half of Europe into concentration camp. Baltics fall into the sphere of influense of USSR mainly due to German's menace. So it's a Hitlers' fault then?

>>74782135
You should thank me only for raping you insted of killing you logic

Btw you started the war with Hitler as allies


But you probably never heard about it, its not in russian school books

>>74782448
>Btw you started the war with Hitler as allies

You don't know history, kid. Hitler had an non-agressive pact with ALL relevant countries in Europe, and USSR was the last one to form it with them. It's another story that Hitler did broke all of them, attacking Poland first (forcing GB to act), then France and then ambushing USSR.
USSR have never beeing ally of Nazi Germany. We only did have an agreement to partition Poland and only for the sake to had a buffer zone against each other. Stalin did knew that USSR and Germany gonna have unavoidable war, that is the sole reason he agreed to partition Poland, occupy Baltics and start a war with Finland.

Now you can thank me, I gave you a history lesson, your teacher were unable to get through to you.

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>>74782716
Oh poor russians were forced to invade poland :((((((

>>74782135
>Baltics fall into the sphere of influense of USSR mainly due to German's menace

Soviets were already trying to actively spread communism before Hitler had taken power and after the WW2. It was literally in their plans to spread the communist influence. With Hitler or not.

>>74782827
>that sarcasm
Like Poland annexed a part of your country alongside with the nazi Germany.

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>>74781842
>And don't you agree that during Soviet times there were built a lot of industry and infrastructure?
The only reason for this was that the Baltics were already one of the most developed areas when USSR annexed us. Why else would you build your factories to a recently gained territory which is populated by foreigners of whom some are hostile to your country?

>>74782015
>But in reality I really doubt that measures of your polititians not aimed to oppress some inconvinient part of the population for them.
I don't mean to be rude but do you actually know what is happening here? Our politicians are basically cucks when it comes to Russian minority.
I have many Russian friends who live in Estonia, even grew up with some of them. And to be honest those who have integrated well are decent people, but the rest are absolute trash that make all Russians look bad. I even had a chat with a Russian co-worker the other day and he said he is genuinely amazed how the fuck do those Russians who don't speak a word of Estonian live here.

>>74782716
>Stalin did knew that USSR and Germany gonna have unavoidable war, that is the sole reason he agreed to partition Poland, occupy Baltics and start a war with Finland.
Did you actually get your history education during the Soviet times? The "we needed more land so we could retreat more if the nazis invade" meme is very outdated. I know that I would have invaded these countries as well if I was the leader of USSR. But justifying it with a meme is kinda embarrasing t b h.

>>74782955
So we can all agreed that you were all equally assholes

>>74783027
>The "we needed more land so we could retreat more if the nazis invade" meme is very outdated
That's not about retreating, but about having better initial positions in case of war against Germany. So if not the soviets, then those lands would've been occupied by the Germans anyway.

>>74782886
Well, that is true. But it was just an ideal, plans at best. If there would be no ww2, there is no guarantee that USSR started some war just to enforce communism everywhere. Marxists were absolutely sure that communism is the next stage after capitalism, so all countries have to naturally turn to it. For example, France, they had very strong socialistic sentiments and could become communists without any war, if it's not for influence of USA. So that's all 'what's if' scenarious. They are all groundless.

>>74782827
'Forced' is a wrong word. We just decided that Poland, who hated both us and Germans better to be partitioned, rather than be a potential ally of Hitler against us. Really nothing personal, just big politics, The same with Baltics and Finland. Those countries were all needed for Stalin as a buffer zone against Hitler.
In the end it worked. Germany have been unable to reach Moscow befor winter. That insured our future victory.

So basically we sacrified our relationships with Poland, Finland and Baltic states to survive in the upcoming war. That was a wise decision, but a hard one.

>>74783027
>The "we needed more land so we could retreat more if the nazis invade" meme is very outdated

It's not about spare clay. It's all about to enforce those countries not to become an ally of Hitler. If we did nothing, Germany would occupy both Baltics and Poland and force them to serve, just like Finland became their puppet. Still we grabbed some clay from them, which made St. Petersburg unconquered.

>>74769703
Maybe he can't make his facts hard anymore...

>>74764892
The answer is here

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>>74764691
Albanians have always had a presence in Kosovo during Serb/Slav occupation of the land, if not before it. Arguing how big their presence was is pointless though, as demographics shifted quite a lot in that region back then.

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>>74768734
fair enough senpai

>>74785290
>Serb/Slav occupation of the land
Oh look it's enverbey.

>>74781031
evidence?