ITT: how do stop a criminal goverment headed by cuba russia china

>>74673125
F off with these daily Venezuelan threads

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Stay out of it, you will only make it worse, if that's even possible. Let Venezuelans handle their shit.
Leave the world alone.

>>74673125
>how do stop
We don't. Let them go apeshit on each other as far as I care.

>>74673125
why do you care?


just fuck off.

>>74673173
what should we talk about instead?

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>>74673437
hahah yeah since venezuela pays for your debt

let's invade them. it's been a while since we did that in south america and it is also a good cause and we can test our new drones and shit.

>>74673437
because it is our backyard?

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>>74673437
we can play "la basurita" whenever you want

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>>74673565
lol @ drones that shit is soo 2010

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/07/us-military-secret-space-plane-sonic-boom-florida

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>>74673198

are you jealous trump doesnt give a shit about you but wishes to invade venezuela?

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>>74673710
>trump doesnt give a shit about you

>>74673530
Is this girl getting SPIC'd?

>>74673710
she looks a lot like kendall without all that makeup, pretty hot

>>74673125
Nuke it

>>74676269
this, let us die already

>>74673644
Is that the one that was flying for 2 years?

>>74673530

Gonna need a sauce for that. Ty in advance.

>>74679802
Yes

Why do people care so much about Venezuela?

Honestly most Latin American countries are fucking shitholes where people can't even get groceries and shit.

Fuck me I would probably be in Venezuela than in Honduras where there are paramilitary orgs just wondering around executing poor people and shit.

>>74680345
you need to stop watching hollywood movies m8. if i judge about what i see on movies or in tv i would think the only things that happen in your country are surfing and kangaroos documentals.

Latin america is a pretty good place in general, everyone is nice and if you don't fuck with crime it would hardly fuck with you. Of course, that is the normal latin american country, this shithole is a HUGE exception and that's why they care about us, because no one really can understand what the fuck happened here

>>74680560
>Latin america is a pretty good place in general

Literally every single most dangerous city on earth is in Latin America or the Caribbean.

> because no one really can understand what the fuck happened here

Lets be honest here. People focus on Venezuela instead of any other shitty developing nation on earth because of it's populist "left" Government. Hence why you don't get news of Honduran death squads just mowing people down openly in the streets and executing poor people in western media.

It's pretty obvious what happened to Venezuela.

PSUV implemented price controls to help alleviate severe poverty which Venezuela had some of the highest levels in Latin America and increase consumption.

Production did though not increase with consumption and diversification, while happening throughout the 00s, did not happen fast enough, then crashed and burned come 2008 GFC which saw the country rapidly scramble back to Oil.

Monetary controls did help alleviate poverty, but also had the effect of also basically making it impossible to import now needed goods. Government got trapped between a wall and a hard place as if it got rid of price controls, the poor would turn against them, but it needed to get rid of them, because they were harming the economy, because people could just defraud the shit out of the entire system with ease.

Production also collapsed, because in Venezuela, Military more than anything chooses who keeps power and State owned assets were palmed off to the military to siphon wealth from.

Then came the death of Chavez, and the moron Maduro got into power and fired all of Chavez' people, then Saudi's artificially tanked oil prices to destroy competition (largely shale/tar sands and Russia) leading to the current crisis.

Currency controls that have outlived their usefullness, Government paralyzed, corruption, GFC and bad oil prices.

It's pretty easy to understand.

el venezolANO, ladies and gents

>>74680707
>let me tell you about your own country

>>74680761
Because people live in a country, doesn't mean they understand exactly everything about the economic situation. Actually, the opposite, because they're influenced by their own media biases.

My analysis is from actual economists and world bank data.

It's pretty easy to know what happened to Venezuela when you read actual economic reports and not listen to media shit like "DICTATOR CHAVEZ DESPITE BEING DEAD FOR 5 YEARS STILL CONTROLS VENEZUELA WITH AN IRON GRIP!"

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>>74680867
let me try to explain what the fuck it is you think is going on but whats actually happened (since i grew up there and had to move away)

>we had a corrupt govt like many latin american countries
>yeah shit happened we had a dictator who actually built a lot of shit with the money from the oil /roads bridges schools etc
but ppl dont like dictators so people like my grandmother and father worked to take him down and they did
>another corrupt president, cool but at least we change every 4 years
>chavez doesnt like this decides to coup and kills a lot of people hes in jail for life
>chavez befriends all these commufucks but since he's literally crazy fidel boosts his ego and grooms him almost identically to che

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>>74680973
the thing about venezuela is that its actually a nice place to live and geographically speaking its almost perfect, its around 70F/21c degrees year round and honestly who the fuck wouldnt like that, plus tons of oil and gold and shit and touristy fucking places basically a pot of gold for whoever can take it (think cuba in the 1950's with all the resorts and shit)
well cuba knows this but cuba is a fucking island man and its small AF and cuba doesnt want all the commie(russian/china/NK)fucks living there cause its too small

>so fidel has an idea with a guy crazy enough to do it
>they figure out through extortion and bribes and blackmail and shit to get chavez out (i think the sum paid to the president was like 300K if im not mistaken)
>also lets do this bribe/blackmail/extort to the people in charge of the elections, once you control the elections youre set, this wasnt proved til long long after (former election board president lives in asylum in miami for trying to expose this) im 100% sure her extended family and friends are having a hard time if not dead already

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>>74681135
> so sociopath chavez comes to power (i remember this being the worst day of my life) cause since im educated i know that uneducated people are unfit to run a country 2+2 not so hard to figure that out
>holy fuck look at all this oil money and gold reserves (which were moved to cuba btw(hmm wonder why))
>chavez starts PRETENDING to help people makes tons of nice propaganda and loves being the center of attention
>fidel tells him exactly what to do

from past countries that have done this with a similar model you now know what happens next

>the whole country starts to become poor as the fake govt either is incompetent to regulate import/exports money or is doing this on purpose
>tons of money start going missing
>tons of social programs stop working and they just keep the money
>more propaganda more nice movies about "the savior"
>more poor people

holy fuck /int/ is actually buying it they think he's actually helping people LOLOLOL holy shit movies and propaganda work HAHAHAHAHAH hey they actually had elections venezuelans must love being poor

>lets help colombian guerrilla etc export all this cocaine to other countries since we have all these govt planes and govt passports and immunity

>>74673565
Do it fag, y'all fucked up Panama but it ended up well. Do it with that shithole plz

>>74681370
>>lets help colombian guerrilla etc export all this cocaine to other countries since we have all these govt planes and govt passports and immunity
I don't know why this is not brought up more often. It's pretty obvious that the FARC own Venezuela.

>>74681519
yup

http://www.infobae.com/america/venezuela/2017/04/22/en-medio-de-protestas-en-todo-venezuela-las-farc-declararon-su-apoyo-a-nicolas-maduro-y-a-la-revolucion-bolivariana/

>>74681656
Shit. Cara dura.

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>>74680973
>>74681135
>>74681370

any venezuelanfags wanna correct me on these things but this is roughly how it happened

>hey we need to control the means of production for everything but then not actually produce anything
GREAT IDEA
>companies start getting taken over by the fake govt (gm was the most recent one google it)
fuck what if people find out? we need more guns and money
>lets buy guns from russia and tanks and planes and all this old shit from WW2
ru$$ia likes this
>lets take out an 80 billion loan but have nothing to back it up, fuck it
>chavez daughter is one of the richest people in latam rn

lets get north korea involved

>every time theres elections or shit going on in venezuela north korea starts saying theyre gunna bomb the US

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26210187

yeah because cuba has the money to do this... #baka

>oh yeah free monies to all these people too
but only if u help out
>argentine foreign debt gets paid off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_debt_restructuring
just in case we need somewhere to flee and not cuba cause fuck cuba being an island

>>74681693
narcos sometime must work together to gain better profits.

>>74681765
>>74681370
>>74681135
>>74680973

basically what im trying to say is that its an invasion of a group of people from several countries that hide themselves behind the mask of socialism to control territory because theyre fucked up idk

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oh shit yeah after WW1 and WW2 a lot of people from a lot of countries moved to venezuela so the girls are beautiful AF

trvmp likes this so he wants to put a wall north of mexico and invade vzla jus sayin

>sorry mexifags

>>74674049

>>74673198
>Let Venezuelans handle their shit.
We can't. See the protests.

>>74680345
> than in Honduras where there are paramilitary orgs just wondering around executing poor people and shit
That also happens here and even worse. Venezuela's the worst latin american country to be in right now.

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>>74680973
>>74681135
>>74681370
>>74681765
This is on point.

Also, Chavez spent 14 years using media to brainwash people into worshiping him. Most chavistas supported him because he painted himself as a savior and god-like figure, not because they actually gave a shit about his political agenda.

In fact, the average venezuelan doesn't understand shit about politics because they made the political panorama all about emotional appeal. Barely any politican has to talk about actual plans to improve the country or anything.

Maduro tried to do the same as Chavez and manipulate people to follow him by using Chavez as a spiritual figure, but he's so dumb and plain that it didn't work on him, hence why even chavistas are turning against him now.

>>74680707
>>74680867
>My analysis is from actual economists and world bank data.

All my experiences and opinions as a venezuelan living in venezuela have more validity than yours simply by the fact that I live here, experience first-hand how the situation is affecting us, and, you know, live here.

Someone who reads articles from the internet will never get the full picture unless you step in here, something I know you'll never do anyways. You can read all you want, but still won't know any more than what people living the situation do.

So no, you don't understand more about the place I live than I do. You got some points right, though. Congrats on informing yourself.

>>74680707
>Lets be honest here. People focus on Venezuela instead of any other shitty developing nation on earth because of it's populist "left" Government


...or because it has such a big ass oil reserves.
IDK

>>74673125
1. remove the stars
2. add more yellow
problem solved

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>>74673710
>are you jealous trump doesnt give a shit about you
One of the pillars of his campaign is literally just sperging out about us