Why have they succeeded and begun to prosper while other former

They're part of the EU

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>>74521899
Only Estonia has done great stuff.
Latvia is on it's way after the corrupt russian bankscams scandal.
Lithuania is going backwards and most likely will stay the worst of the other balts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HbjF-XVOmM

Bravo Estonia!
Good job Latvia.
Meh Lithuania...

Jokes aside Poland is growing considerably, Czech republic too.

Small populations extensive safetynets and revival programs initiated by other countries.

Shortly: Aid from EU and other institutions combined with successfull management of recovering economy

>>74521961
>czechia
>poland
>ex-USSR

>>74522076
Oh, I haven't noticed the ussr reference.
Culturally anyway they were european and similar to those, unlike other soviet countries.

>>74521899
because they are smart enough to drain money from richer countries

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>>74521899
>not slavs
>western culture and high development before the occupation
>right wing economics after independence
>good neighbors

>>74522996
bravo

>>74522996
I like Estonia, but realistically your country is poor as hell. Your GDP is lower than Vermonts, which is the lowest of any U.S. state.

If it wasn't for NATO and the EU there would be nothing stopping R*ssia from retaking your country.

i like estonia

>>74521899
They're not Slavic or Turkic.

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>>74523107
>your country is poor as hell
It's relative. Compared to the west, yes.
>If it wasn't for NATO and the EU there would be nothing stopping R*ssia from retaking your country.
NATO - yes. EU - not really. Thanks for that.

>>74521899
>What's their secret?
EU monies. They started to get eu funds even before they officially joined.

>>74523416
>>74522041
EU monies have helped a lot, but any country already wins big time by NOT being part of CIS. Russia fucks up everything it touches.

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Only estonia is really "successful"

the rest have big problems and doesn't look so good

>>74523107
>Your GDP is lower than Vermonts, which is the lowest of any U.S. state.
hooo boy

shartlander here with the big revelations

a country that's been around for only 25 years, after getting raped by Soviet dictatorship for triple of that timespan, has a lower GDP than a state that has existed in prosperity for centuries, untouched by world wars and communist cancer?

whoda fuckin thunk

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>>74523721
>communism >communism >communism

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>>74523721

>>74523680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic_-RbgY3Vw

>>74523835
>soviets take a fat shit on your country
>flood everything with degenerate russians
>build fuck-ugly commieblocks every 5 meters
>drain you of people and resources and export it all to russia

>this is all somehow totally alright and it's abnormal to be angry about it
>this is what slavshits ACTUALLY believe

>>74522232
Nigger, that's what you do.
You sell natural resources to countries like Germany and China. That's all you do. In 17 or so years you have sold resources for over 5 trillion dollars, and yet you still poor.

>>74523910
Not a single source was given.
Eastern Europe is shit because it's government is shit. Was always shit and will still be shit while people like you strawman their problems on other countries rather than fix their own.

>>74523976
East Germany and West Germany had the same government until the East was turned into a Soviet satellite state. And then it turned into shitty commie block dystopia

>>74523910
>soviets take a fat shit on your country
this comment literaly means nothing

>flood everything with degenerate russians
not in Lithuania.

>build fuck-ugly commieblocks every 5 meters
Have you been to france or UK? 20 century architecture is ulgy everywhere. Commieblocks themselves were invented in France.


>drain you of people and resources and export it all to Russia
In 1945 Estonia had no resources and Soviets didn't drained anyone

>>74523940
i sell nothing, resources are no mine

>>74524028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbbWIRhJbgc

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

>>74521936
What you’ve just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent shitpost were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on thid board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

>>74524050
Nigger, have you read your own constitution?
Natural resources of Russia, according to Russian constitution, belong to all the people of Russia

>>74521921
This

>>74523107
Basically, yeah

>>74521936
I don't disagree with your rating but Aussie OP is still right, our GDP per capita is still higher than any other ex-ussr country, including Russia.

>>74523835
Well we have good reasons to be butthurt.

>>74521899
Not being Orthodox Christian

>>74521899
EU money + market access

>>74521899
Big EU funds for small countries.

>>74523910
Can you pls stop with slavshits and talk only about russians

Quite offensive desu

>>74523107
>Your GDP is lower than Vermonts
No way. Really? No.... That can't be possible.
>>74523721
Not him, but this is Vermont we're talking about. It's me, like 18 other people, and a bunch of fucking cows. Vermont is a silly place.
t. Vermonter

>>74524406
you are honorary germanic

>>74524424
Can you please go outside of your house and make some photos?

>>74524406
Sry, but it's easy to forget about west slavs here. Around us it's Russians, Belorussians (actually Russians) and Ukrainians (also really Russians).

>>74524439
Like you have anything to say in that matter, mutt.

>>74524439
More like you are honorary slav
>>74524462
Poor slovenes :(

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>>74522996
>NO SLAVS
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>74524547
there is no honor in beeing slav

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>>74524451
It's early morning and raining here, but sure thing, polebro.

>>74524568
They do the lowest paying blue collar jobs and we don't let them vote so it's cool.
Also, you're the one that's basically Polish and speak a Balto-SLAVIC language.

>>74524591
It is

Its just russians who ruined slav brand

>>74524424
estonia only has 200k more population than vermont, and the gdp of us states is kind of bloated because of dollaridoos

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>>74524602
In case it's not apparent, I live in a forest.

>>74524612
>>74524568
Just realized that you're probably the same "Lithuanian" from earlier posts and speak literal Russian anyway.

>>74524612
kys ivan russian subhuman
gonna defend your fellow subhumans more?
you russians disgust me

>>74524656
I think you tried to reply to that other "Lithuanian"?

>estonian flag
>actually russian
lol fucking subhuman slav

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>>74524631
>200k
That's 30% of our population.

>>74524612
wtf thats racist
why do you disrciminate russians?

>>74524686
This.

>Shithuanians revealed to be leaf-tier shitposters

I guess it couldn't be helped

>>74524686
Couldn't have said it better myself, Estonians are just russians aka subhumans slavs

>>74524602
>>74524651
nice. i always wanted to live in a rural area, in some quite and calm place but here you can't have even a relatively decent life in a village, they all are too fucking poor.

>>74524686
>>74524713
>actually russian
Looks like you have serious problems with reading comprehension.

>>74524707
It's quite simple. We don't recognize the Soviet occupied Estonia as a legitimate state so citizenship wasn't automatically transferred. You need to speak Estonian to get naturalized so our scum was essentially left without citizenship and can't vote for parliament.

>>74524686
So much this...

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dat "lithuanian" russian samefagging

>>74524686
100% truth right here.
How do we get Estonia banned from /int/?

>>74524707
>why do you disrciminate russians?
It's like 'discriminating' dogs. Nobody cares.

>>74524686
I'm also tired of all these "Estonians" its been proven that all of these "Estonian" posters are actually just self hating russians worse than niggers tbhq

>>74524764
Are they Russian citizens then?

>>74524764
Honestly they should be happy that were not forced to leave

>>74524686
Bingo someone finally had the balls to say the truth.

>>74524796
Well that is why my statement is true.
Estonia > Latvia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lithuania

>>74524686
This. All these self hating Russian behind Estonian flags really piss me off, they ACTUALLY think that they are legit Estonians!!!

What have the Russians actually taken from the Baltic tho? With such a huge population did they need Estoenian workers? Does Estonia have some rare metal? Lots of wood? Something?

>>74521899
Estonia is a shithole, comparable to the balkans. Stop the meme. Even Latvia is better.

>>74521899
they are european ass-lickers
and you forgot poland

>>74524686
>Be Russian born in Estonia
>See that your native country is a shithole
>Pretend to be Estonian
Sad!

>>74524912
why cant they be prosperous and independant countries like Belarus?

>>74524839
Some are, but I think most have no citizenship at all. They have gray "alien" passports. I've heard they actually like them because it makes travelling easier and you can also bitch about Estonian fascists.
>>74524908
We're about the same-tier with Sloviena. Defo better than the balkans.

t. traveler who has traveled the balkans many times
>>74524912
How's Russian ass-licking working out for you?

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They won everyone over with their cuteness.

>>74524686
Hopefully Russia annexes the artificial country of Estonia soon.

>>74524958
pretty sure thats not possible
a person cant be stateless

>>74524958
>We're about the same-tier with Sloviena. Defo better than the balkans.
Slovenia is shit, no country in the Eastern Europe is good.

>>74524686
#Truth
Estonia was never actually a country until a couple of years ago, unlike Lithuania they have no history they just been buttfucked by major powers like Sweden,Russia and the commonwealth, they are rapebabies

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>>74524763
Sorry, bud. For what it's worth, we're very welcoming to immigrants. The cost of living here, however, is among the highest in the country.
>last pic I took this morning

>>74525003
Yes they can.
>>74525005
I liked it. Nice clean cities and Italians have taught you how to make coffee.

>>74524686
>Be proud "Estonian"
>Your parents are russians
wow what a cuck

>>74525003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_alien%27s_passport

>>74525005
>Slovenia is shit
I've heard that it's the opposite of that.

>>74524700
yeah and estonia also has 320,000 worthless russians living there

>>74524686
Estonia is just sub urbs of st petersburg, the term "Estonian" is made up by self hating slavs who lived in "Estonia"

>>74524686
They even copied a language from Finns and called it "Estonian" when they are actually just russians, not only that they also think they are nordic :DDDDDD

>>74525051
>>74525103
Slovenia looks 1st world, but the standard of living is not on the same level. The same goes for Estonia, Czech republic etc...

>>74525051
>>74525088
wtf, thats violation of human rights
those people are second class citizens in their own country

>>74525088
how do i get one? if i come to estonia and pretend that i am a faggot and they oppress me in russia, will i get such passport?
honestly, i'd better be a street cleaner in estonia than an office clerk here.

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P-please stop bullying us

>>74525164
>their own country
>
>>74525177
Start an anti-Putin blog or write dissident columns. We give asylum to these people all the time.

>>74525164
Check this shit out, that's the true face of Eastern EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Erased

>>74525199
your entire history consists of bullying everyone else, so no

>>74525209
well, if they have no other citizenship, then Estonia is their home country
Please dont forget that Estonia always used to have a small Russian minority

>>74525199
lel. i already became immune to all the insults and humiliation. such as life for a russian. we can't even post with a russian flag on the internet without being insulted.

>>74525247
wow, i had no idea such human rights violations would be possible within the EU

>>74525209
i think i'll end up in gulag rather than in estonia if i do that

>>74525269
Honestly, I don't know which side I should take. I don't agree with the western policies for the most time, and I hate whining ex-communist countries, but I also cannot like Russia, as it is a poor, backward shithole.

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>>74525106
Fair. We don't have any considerable minority populations, and the few who are here are assimilated.
>>74525160
>Slovenia looks 1st world
Yeah, but I live in Vermont, and we can't claim that.
>the standard of living is not on the same level.
Ok. The standard of living here is actually pretty high. Still, I think Slovenia looks nice, and I have distant cousins there.

>>74525304
Trick is to gtfo before OMON comes.
>>74525267
All they need to do is speak the language of their home country and they get a human passport.

>>74525247
Lithuania gave citizenship to every single nationality within its borders after regaining independence, no matter whether they were Lithuanian, Polish or Russian.

We were good boys, don't project your failures onto others.

>>74525267
Welp this is more like if Germany would give german passports to soviet soldiers and their families stationed in Eastern Germany

>>74525407
I wouldn't be surprised that if they did exactly that.

>>74525247
I don't see a problem here. Shouldn't this sort itself out, gypsies aside, within another generation or two?

>>74525301
Lel, I don't know if you are trolling or just being ignorant, but the EU is far from being a pinnacle of civilization. Poor shitholes in the east and the south, and rich but hypocritical countires in the west.

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>>74525407
Germany habours no ill will towards Russia regarding the cold war.
Quiet the contary, we are greatful that they allowed us to peacefully reunite.

We still have many statues to fallen soviet soldiers here in Germany

>>74524085
>constitution
>Russia
>lithuanian comprehension of reality

Russia is corrupt mafia state with african tier democracy, the same as Pablo Escobar would become president of Colombia

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>>74525526
cuck

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>>74525369
What's wrong, it's a rural place. It actually looks very similar to Slovenia.

>>74525611
now now, dont bite the hand that feeds you

>>74525524
Cool birb

>>74525764
Too late, we're almost net payers by now.

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>>74524451
>>74524602
t.Styxhexenhammer666

>>74525531
I've yet to ask this weirdly enough but how does the russian suppose to fix things? Realistically? IS there any internal solution to the rampant corruption or do you suppose outside assistance is needed in some form to get rid of it?

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>>74525894
>how does the russian suppose to fix things

>>74525720
>above-ground power lines
>unpaved road
In fairness, though, infrastructure can only be developed so far due to land protection laws. That pic was taken close to my house, and this whole area is a national forest. Yeah, it's nice here, but I still say Slovenia looks nice. Not to be condescending, but maybe it's an age-related thing. I can see Slovenia being a place that's better for the 30+ set, but possibly being a bit dull for young folks outside of the cities.

>>74525894
I personally think balkanisation is the only hope. Russia is corrupt because it's so centralised around Moscow.

>>74525407
No, it's not. These people are descendants of Russian factory workers who got resettled here. They are not some kind of foreign occupational force. Stop letting Estshits brainwash you.

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>>74525924
That worked fine last time didn't it?

>>74525987
I suppose this is pretty true. The economical difference between regions is getting unbearable to the system itself and add some extensive post-USSR corruption and you have modern Russia.

>>74525854
>looks like the offspring of a corpse fucking an elf
>lives in Rut Vegas
Are you the same fag who has asked me several times now if I'm that weird little worm?

>>74526034
>That worked fine last time didn't it?
It did.

>>74521899
The truth is that they haven't succeeded. Only one country has the future and that's Estonia, because there is a kind of mental wall between them, while people in Litva and Lithuania are getting out of these shitholes Estonia pretends to be a second Finland. Estonians just don't flee out of the country and they are doing a great job there.

>>74521899
EU helped them

>>74526137
Bravo Estonia!

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>>74521899
>What's their secret?
From 1990 to 2011, Lithuania's population fell from 3.6 million to 3 million. Over the same period, the population of Latvia declined from 2.6 million to 2 million, while Estonia's fell from 1.5 million to 1.3 million.

>>74523107
>>74524602
>>74524651
Idaho has higher GDP than Vermont?

>>74526375
RIP in peace Latvia

>>74526590
>more clay
>more populous
Yes, it does.

>>74526603
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/29/latvia-fights-against-the-great-eu-exodus/
>“We are dying out,” says Prof Peteris Zvidrins, Latvia’s most eminent demographer, who warns that the pension system is at of risk of collapse.
It's sad, really

>>74526163
RARE FLAG
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>>74521899
>Lithuania
>propsering
ahahahahaha

>>74526638
Anyone else /not reproducing/ out of spite for you're cunt?