>Amerindians were still stuck in the Bronze Age and hadn't

>white people couldn't even invent camouflage.

>>74362602
>>74362602
>Amerindians had superior farming technology than e*ropees
>they didn't destroy their ecosystem
>wh*tey wiped out so many species in the ecosystem a plant that cured cancer was exterminated by wh*tey

clearly the "wheel" is not necessary for civilization

european supremacy is a lie

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They invented the wheel, but they used it for a greater purpose...

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>>74362653
>wh*tey rolls wheels on the ground
>Mayans use it to predict the future
How can wh*tey even compete?

>>74362602
What the fuck purpose would a wheel serve in mesoamerica? There were no fucking horses around to pull carts.

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>>74362632
>they didn't destroy their ecosystem
full retard

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>>74362716
>British education

>>74362716
they had slash and burn which kind of saved the land from being drained of nutrients

its slow and labor intensive but not as deadly to the land as mass agriculture

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>>74362688

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Why do Europeans have to be impressed by others to not genocide them?

>>74362765
they had plenty of people to carry stuff

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>>74362602

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>>74362765
Travois>wheel barrow.

Originally used with dogs prior to the introduction of horses.

>>74362602
They came up with writing independently. They knew math. Concept of zero. They knew astronomy. They built one of the largest cities at the time. They worked with obsidian. Improved their crops.
>While Mesoamerican civilization did know of the wheel and basic metallurgy, neither of these technologies became culturally important.[3]

The Incas did what they did in only 100 years.

Our natives did nothing in the 6000 years they were here.

The lack of draft animals combined with difficult-to-access natural resources (like ore) meant that Amerindian civilizations were always tenuous and perpetually on the brink of collapse once established. Geographically, the New World is nowhere near as easy to settle as the Old World, so it's understandable that Amerindians were behind the curve when Europeans first encountered them.

You're essentially looking at someone who didn't have all the advantages you did and laughing at them for not being as well off. How very... European of you...

>linear perception of social evolution

Nice meme. "Inventions" are not things which are meant to happen but are created and spread because their is a need for them.

>>74362764
And what the hell do you think europeans did before inventing mass agriculture?

>>74362765
who needs wheels when you have slaves

Because they don't racially self-destruct as soon as cultural Marxism shows up at their door.

>>74362602
Because "duuude they were in tune with nature and shit, so exotic, fascinating"

Basically the modern days equivalent of "those primitives have a really interesting aesthetic, how quaint"

It's dumb bullshit and from when you were 12yo you should already have realized this was an immense scam and not something to be taken seriously

>>74362958
north american natives were shit tbqh, my natives literally didn't wear clothes; mexican and andean natives are where it's at

>>74364118
The thing everyone has to remember about the colonies is that they were economic ventures, no one had any intention of preserving the land. They just took the sugar and went with it.

>>74364226
Eh, human sacrifice and regular cannibalism as part of religious festivals do not impress me.

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>>74364226
meh, I think the ones from the north had nicer aesthetics tbqh.

>>74364709
Natives were asthetic as fuck. Look for kaweshkar.

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>>74362602
>people without wheels and steel were the first ones to introduce universal compulsory education in human history
kek

>>74362688
They built precision flat roads but had no wheel. Pretty surprising tbqh

>>74364401
Christian inquisition murdered thousands of innocents people in the name of the God, so what? I don't see how it's different from what Aztecs priests were doing. At least their victims offered their lives willingly.
Speaking about cannibalism - what about the symbolic one? Symbolic cannibalism is an intrinsic part of Christian faith, you partake flesh and blood of Christ during the Eucharist.

>>74362602
>civilization is defined as a culture that has urban planning, a writing system, and social stratification
>the Indians of modern day America and Canada weren't technically a civilization
See that kinda makes the whole genocide thing a little less bad. Kinda their own fault if you think about it. Maybe they'd still be around today if they'd bothered to write their shit down sooner.

Also Andean civilizations didn't invent the wheel because it honestly wouldn't help very much for the mountainous terrain.

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>>74362765
you undestimate human capabilities

>>74362974
There were horses in America but the humans killed them. Also Americans were well aware of ores, they just didn't construct large scale mines like in the old world. Also the American continent is huge and there are bound to be fertile areas and besides they had access to potatoes so there were no lack of crops.

>>74362602
>unironically believing that cultures develop teleologically
The precolumbian societies were well adapted to their own environments.

Many of the mountaineous and heavily forested areas in SA weren't fit for travelling by wagons.

>>74369805
>Many of the mountaineous and heavily forested areas in SA weren't fit for travelling by wagons.
The same could be said for Europe, but Europeans deforested the land and built roads.

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does it matter though?

yurotrash colonialism got btfo in south america and is getting rekt in north america too

and thats all that matters, gringo

>>74362602
>Everything is like civ right?
>Technology is constantly in the same era hehe
Nigger they lived in a shit enviroment that don't foster a technological minded society. It could only work for the americans because they had the technology they did.

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>>74369840
>roads
So did literally all of the major mesoamerican cultures.

>deforestation
Would have been retarded. The Mayans largely subsisted on orchards and horticulture, which have been proven to leave a lesser ecological footprint than the large scale agriculture practiced in the old world.

>>74362903
There were some precursor kingdoms in the area before the Inca, iirc especially in the north around the Peru-Ecuador border area, but you're right. The Inca empire grew extremely quickly and ruled over dozens of cultures that had previously been independent of each other. They built roads and terrace farming like crazy.

>>74362680
I bet her husband looks quite like her

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>>74362632
>a plant that cured cancer

>>74364209
Is this the power of french intellect

>>74362602
really wish our natives were that advanced

the torres strait islanders were the most advanced of the lot and all they knew how to do was build canoes

>>74365988
yeah but you're not killing someone and eating their heart

>>74362781
The state of these creatures.

>>74362602
>Whiteys get swarmed by middle eastern uneducated people and terrorists and they accept them because "muh colonialism" and "muh white people bad"
Why am I supposed to impressed by these people again?

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>>74374640
b-because computers n shit

>>74362602
You aren't.

>>74362602
There was this mexican that explained something about floods and how easily the natives in his area dealt with them while it took the colonials centuries to find a way and they ended up destroying the ecosystem. I wish I had saved it.

>>74371762
Cannabis

>>74375745
Oh rlly?
Smoking tobacco is unhealthy but smoking weed totally cure cancer.
lol weed lmao xD
amirite?

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>>74369785
>There were horses in America but the humans killed them.
>While the extinctions around the late Pleistocene saw the end to mammoths, giant sloths, horses and the like in the Americas, the extinction rate of North American mammals actually reached its highest level some six million years ago, resulting in the demise of about 60 genera. Several species of horses were driven to extinction at that time.

>Not so long ago, there was no evidence of an overlap between North American horse extinction and the arrival of humans, let alone evidence of their hunting horses. There is now clear evidence that mankind hunted North American horses but were they doing so in numbers that made a difference? It is a question that may never be answered. Evidence also suggests horses were originally domesticated, not just for riding, but also to provide food, including milk.

>“It’s hard to see this as one of those things where a single piece of evidence will make it obvious what happened,” Scott Wing, a paleobiologist at the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of Natural History, told National Geographic. “The phenomenon that people are trying to explain is not something that happened in one place at one time. It happened across the globe, at different times on different continents. I think that there are clearly multiple factors involved.”

>Also Americans were well aware of ores, they just didn't construct large scale mines like in the old world
Yeah, deepest Mesoamerican mines were about 25m, while the deepest Roman mine was 120m. I'm not sure why, but my guess is because they lacked iron tools.

>they had access to potatoes so there were no lack of crops
well, it's not like the crops were always there

I don't care
My shit country and the shitty States before it never ever bothered to conquer and force part of their culture on some free clay in the Americas.

This is the real problem, fucking Italy being useless, no ex colonies anywhere, no foreigners speaking my language natively, no goons using ancient words.

Fuck this planet I hope Spain drowns into Muslim dicks

>>74376528
Don't forget Eritrea. And perhaps also Ethiopia, even though they were only occupied for a short while.

Plenty of facetta nera for you, Mario.

>>74376845
Both shit

Italian culture: 0%
Native Italian speakers: none

>>74376528
And yet Italy is the most beautiful country in Europe.