Friendly reminder that Angl*s and G*rms are mongrels and have nothing to do with Ancient Germans and Anglo-Saxons
wrong
>>74330205
>modern anglos
Big anglo empire, won both world wars, basically rule the western world
>modern Germany
great economy, head of EU
>modern France
???
>>74330332
A divine and pure bloodline transmited since ancient times
>>74330332
>modern France
Is included under "Modern Germany"
>>74330205
Pretty shitty examples m8. If Churchill had longer hair and a beard he wouldn't look that much different from the pic on the left. And Hitler is actually really similar to the guy on the left except for his hair colour. And if you used a pic of him when he was younger and had a narrower face, they would be almost identical.
>>74330459
not him but i think that was exactly his point and you just proved him right
>>74330493
Proved him right about what?
>>74330205
Oh Christ it's France again with his dodgy bait images. At least put some effort in.
>>74330519
>At least put some effort in.
I replaced Farage with Churchill like one of your compatriot asked me to do
>>74330512
that the left one looks totally like the right one
the average yuro
>>74330582
But he always tries to argue that the English aren't Anglo-Saxons
>>74330205
>ancient castilians were blue haired and had orange skin
>>74330379
>I have nothing else so I base my national pride on race
nigger-tier logic
no one cares about race superiority anymore
>inb4 Nazis did it lol
they are dead AND they lost. Makes you think.
cool reminder bro
The original Britons were Celtic people that came from Iberia. We are not a germans, We are proud Spanish people
>>74330691
Insular Celts were shit
>>74330617
Race is tthe diriving behind everything
As long as the race is not harmed, a new civilization can be created but if the race fall same will happen for its civilization
The current decline of Western World is caused by the increasing mongrelization of the White Race(mostly the G*rmanic)
>>74330691
>There was no single 'Celtic' genetic group. In fact the Celtic parts of the UK (Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Cornwall) are among the most different from each other genetically. For example, the Cornish are much more similar genetically to other English groups than they are to the Welsh or the Scots.
>The majority of eastern, central and southern England is made up of a single, relatively homogeneous, genetic group with a significant DNA contribution from Anglo-Saxon migrations (10-40% of total ancestry). This settles a historical controversy in showing that the Anglo-Saxons intermarried with, rather than replaced, the existing populations.
>Many of the genetic clusters show similar locations to the tribal groupings and kingdoms around end of the 6th century, after the settlement of the Anglo-Saxons, suggesting these tribes and kingdoms may have maintained a regional identity for many centuries.
>The population in Orkney emerged as the most genetically distinct, with 25% of DNA coming from Norwegian ancestors. This shows clearly that the Norse Viking invasion (9th century) did not simply replace the indigenous Orkney population.
>The Welsh appear more similar to the earliest settlers of Britain after the last ice age than do other people in the UK.
>There are separate genetic groups in Cornwall and Devon, with a division almost exactly along the modern county boundary.
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-03-19-who-do-you-think-you-really-are-genetic-map-british-isles
>>74330332
>Big anglo empire
Wrong, it's dead.
>>74330760
Your pic match your Y-DNA
>>74330969
Many will be 15% Anglo-Saxon, many will be 40%+ Anglo-Saxon. Depends on the region and the family. It's an ongoing study done by numerous people.
>>74330969
U106 is Germanic so the eastern parts of England are closer to 50% Germanic (in terms of haplogroups ofc)
Vive le France
>>74331058
>>74331058
Britons carrying U106 were found in Pre-Germanic as pic related >>74330969 show it
U106 being Germanic is a meme
And the Father of all Europe R1b(R1b-L51) is French, thus R1b can't be Germanic
We, your daddies, aren't Germanic and neither you are
>>74331232
Those U106 findings in Roman were too small in number to draw any conclusions from. They could easily represent slaves from the continent or Germanic warriors brought over by the Romans to defend Britannia against Celtic raids.
Moreover, if R1b-U106 is not Germanic:
How did it reach frequencies in Scandinavia equal to those found in England? It reaches 40% in Norway despite the Celts NEVER having settled there besides a few slaves from Ireland (who have virtually no U106).
Why does it peak in Germanic countries?
Why is does does it spread match perfectly with Germanic expansion?
>>74331339
It peak among the Basques according to your pic
>>74331501
Just an error in that particular map, probably from a shitty sample size in that region.
>>74331534
It's still not Germanic according to you pic Britons since it peak in britain and decrease the further away from it
Anyway we found samples of Saxonsa nd Britons and Britain and
Britons = Various R1b (U106 included)
Saxons = I1
>>74331694
It's still not Germanic according to your pic since it peak in Britain and decrease the further away from it
Anyway we found samples of Saxons and Britons in Britain and :
Britons = Various R1b (U106 included)
Saxons = I1
Fixed that for me
>>74331534
Also
According to your pic there is more U106 in Britain than In Saxony and Danemark where the Anglo-Saxons cames from
It does not make any sense
>>74331720
It doesn't peak in England, it also peaks in the Netherlands and Frisia.
>>74331804
The original Anglo-Saxons of Denmark don't exist anymore. They mostly migrated to England and the rest were pushed out by the invading Danes.
Interestingly, modern Frisians aren't descendants of the original Frisii, they are actually largely descended from Anglo-Saxons who migrated there.
These two factors explain why R1b-U106 is so high in England and Frisia but relatively lower in modern day Denmark, which is more I1-heavy like the original Danish settlers.
The original Anglo-Saxons were likely VERY high in R1b-U106, probably more than modern day English and Frisian people. The reason it was able to spread so well in England was for the same reason that R1 was able to spread so well through Europe as a whole - they dominated the previous populations married their women.
>>74332015
Just another note about the Anglo-Frisian connection - modern Frisian is the closest language to English and both are included in the greater Anglo-Frisian language family. This is the case because they are both descendants of U106-heavy Anglo-Saxons.
>>74330205
Never new Mr. Bean is French
>>74332271
This is Jean Dujardin
>>74331232
What the fuck are we?
>>74330752
race is just a vehicle that is driven on a road called culture
>>74335507
unique, extraordinary and chosen by god himself
>>74335622
>plus purs que les celtes
>plus grands que les germains
>plus valeureux que les méditerranéens
Dieu nous bénisse...même si encore une fois, je ne sais pas ce que nous sommes.
>>74335622
THIS
>>74335706
Nous sommes Français tout simplement
Reminder that this is OP.
He is a 15 year old chinless pube faced algerian who unironically believes he is white
>>74330205
Kind of funny that you used a picture of Churchill, because he was part French Huguenot through his mother
>>74336017
I used Farage first, but an Anglo told that he was French
I will use Tony Blair next time
>>74335892
Not me
>>74336422
>n-not me
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
You will deny your own ugly face? What happened to the beautiful Frankish masterrace? Lmao
>>74330205
>a French
>an English
>>>/basicenglishlessons/
>>74335735
this has nothing to do with /pol/ you literal child
>>74336629
>>74335892
>>74336422
don't listen to the dirty *nglo anon you look perfectly ok and french
not as good as me but fine
i won't emit aesthetic judgement since i am not a woman but if i wanted to hire someone for my company you look much smarter than the average anglo
>>74330379
this is true
>>74330205
>>74331339
>It reaches 40% in Norway despite the Celts NEVER having settled there besides a few slaves from Ireland (who have virtually no U106).
In Denmark the Cimbri and Teutones had a Celtic-speaking nobility, kings with names as Boiorix. Also the tribal names are also derived from Celtic.
>>74332015
>Interestingly, modern Frisians aren't descendants of the original Frisii,
They are mostly Chauci (eg. Cuxhaven), they also settled our coastal region (Koksijde). Also they colonised a piece of SE Ireland together with the Menapii, who lived here and were of pure Celtic extraction.
>>74337884
What the original Frisii were is irrelevant, they are gone from that region. Modern Frisians are the descendants of Anglo-Saxons.
>>74338055
Yes and the later Frisians were Chauci. Why is this relevant, because the traded and colonised together with a neighbouring Celtic tribe. The U106 area seems to remarkably coincide with tribes who had at least a Celtic-speaking nobility in pre-Roman days. Partly described as Germani cis-rhenani by Caesar (because they weren't limited to the Rhine shore).
>>74338233
The impact of a supposed Celtic nobility would be very small as nobility isn't enough to significantly influence the haplogroup frequencies of entire populations.
Also, Frisians aren't exclusively descended from the Chauci. They are broadly Anglo-Saxon, who the Chauci were absorbed into.
>>74335892
Whatever he is he comes across extremely bias and it makes it hard for anyone to take him seriously.
>>74338233
>The U106 area seems to remarkably coincide with tribes who had at least a Celtic-speaking nobility in pre-Roman days.
What about Norway? It peaks there as well.
U106 distribution fits better with Germanic peoples as a whole anyway. This would have especially been the case before the Migration Period (i.e. before the Anglo-Saxons migrated from Jutland and the I1-heavy Danes replaced them). People tend to associate the core Germanic urheimat with Sweden because muh blonde hair n shit, even though it was most likely further south around modern day Denmark. It makes sense that R1b was dominant there.
>>74335608
only if your culture is strong
t.probably not pure han but am considered one
>>74335892
OP Here
I just checked my ancestry and did not find any shitskins in it
But now that i think about i indeed show semitic features like Marcel Proust, and my IQ is far above the average French, but since i don't come from an area invaded by arabs i'm most likely a Jew, i will wait for 23andme to infirm or confirm my views
Anyway, from now on I'M A HEBREW MASTER RACE
Btw you're still mongrel my amerinegroe friend, same goes for you g*rmshit and anglocucks
>>74338544
Interestingly Austria, the cradle of Halstatt culture has a higher frequency of U106 (22%) than Germany and Denmark.
The oldest occurence of R1b thus far is actually R1b-U106 from the Lichtenstein cave in northern Germany, which belongs into the Urnfield Culture, of which the Hallstatt Culture is in turn an outgrowth/continuation. It hence stands to reason that Urnfield indeed was Celtic or Proto-Celtic (this is also supported up by the fact that Proto-Germanic borrowed a number of terms from Celtic)
>>74338798
You are right that the amount of U106 in Norway seems way too much to be a mere result of the slave trade.
found this interesting quote
>Hallstatt and La-Tene are not exactly the same. The origins of La-Tene lay at the periphery of the Hallstatt Culture. It's also clear that by no means R1b-U152 was exclusively Celtic because it's considerable abundance in southern Italy (conversely, R1b-U152 cannot be exclusively Italic because the Romans never were in western Poland, whereas the pre-Germanic population of that area can verymuch have been Celtic or Proto-Celtic).
>It's therefore easily possible, in my opinion, that R1b-U106 is linked with both the Celtic Hallstatt Culture and the Germanic peoples.
(score one for the promotion of the term Celto-Germanic, which imo fits for example the Belgae best)
>Of course, if R1b-U106 was also associated there's a few questions here
>- If R1b-U106 was also (partially) associated with Celtic-speaking peoples, this raises the question if R1b-U106 was present on the British Isles before the Anglo Saxon invasions.
>- In Galicia, there is a peak of R1b-U106. Did it arrive only in the Migrations Period with the Suebi, or did it already arrive much earlier by Hallstatt traders that introduced iron working?
I'm re-reading the U106 review by Iain McDonald (2015) at the moment for additional clues.
>>74338544
>They are broadly Anglo-Saxon, who the Chauci were absorbed into.
True, but an interesting side-note is that the family name Kok and variants thereof is markedly more present in the northern/north-eastern region of the Netherlands. (Sas and variants are also more present there implying Saxons)
I agree that Saxons absorbed neighbouring tribes, Chauci were by far one of the largest in size though. Perhaps that is why it survived as a component of personal names.
>>74339475
I'm not going to dispute any of this, except for the implication that this information makes R1b-U106 non-Germanic. That Lichtenstein cave sample is from around 1000BC, which is contemporary with the Nordic Bronze age which is generally considered to be Pre-Proto-Germanic. If Proto-Celtic and Pre-Proto-Germanic populations were intermingling around this period of time, U106 would likely also be found in the Nordic Bronze age and thus later Proto-Germanic populations. This would make U106 "Germanic".
It's also possible (although purely conjecture) that R1b-U106 was spread to Urnfield by Nordic Bronze Age populations, and it just hasn't been found there yet. Samples are too low from that period to make any judgments, I think.
>>74339778
>It's therefore easily possible, in my opinion, that R1b-U106 is linked with both the Celtic Hallstatt Culture and the Germanic peoples.
I would be inclined to agree with the label Celto-Germanic. I'm not arguing for a purely Germanic origin of U106, I'm just arguing that it isn't purely Celtic either (like the French and Polish guys say).
>(score one for the promotion of the term Celto-Germanic, which imo fits for example the Belgae best)
Probably the Belgae, but definitely also North-Sea Germanic peoples. Otherwise there wouldn't be such a strong East-West gradient of R1b frequency in England, but would rather be South-North instead. It also wouldn't reach such high levels in Frisia, Jutland, etc.
>>74339778
>- If R1b-U106 was also (partially) associated with Celtic-speaking peoples, this raises the question if R1b-U106 was present on the British Isles before the Anglo Saxon invasions.
U106 was probably present in the British Isles before the Anglo-Saxons arrived, but personally I believe the majority of it came with later with them. As I said before, there wouldn't be such an obvious east-west gradient otherwise and I think my Frisian U106 explanation would agree with this as well. Probably no more than a third or so is pre-Anglo-Saxon in my opinion.
Give back normandy you hook-nosed frog
>>74340626
Fuck off goy
>>74340865
rat eared
>>74339778
>>74340557
>>74340604
R1b-U106 is obviously related to Germanic migrations. Are there non Germanic subclades of R1b-U106? Sure, it's like that for any Haplogroup. But the proof is, regardless of anything else that Germanic is a Centum European language. Germanic languages wouldn't exist without an R1b indo European group assisting in creating it or else it wouldn't be a Centum language. With R1b-U106 was frequent in Norway, Denmark, Iceland etc, it only makes sense they are the group
>>74340922
Funny thing on the Centum-Satem point you made - the Polish LARPer likes to use the supposedly Satem nature of the names of Germanic gods to prove that Proto-Germanic culture was brought by R1a "war gods", but by using this argument, he's actually arguing that Proto-Germanics were R1b since Germanic languages are Centum. Kek.
>>74340904
t. low IQ goyim
speak more politely too your hebrew master white mongrel
once 23andme show me a J or a E haplogroup, i will cut my dick and start practicing the religion of YHWH the god of my fathers
>>74341083
The biggest plot hole in his story is that there is zero i1 in all samples from Mesolithic Scandinavia(and there are a lot of samples) It's all I2. I1 first appears in Neolthic Hungary, so it had to spread to Scandinivia as well with other Bronze Age invaders
>>74341289
yuo need to be matrilineally kikeish to be able to convert into a kike
>>74341531
I will convert to Karaite Judaism, Rabbinic are heretics and cuck as well