This Brazilian state has population similar to the population

even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>74191401
Good job, Brazil. Dad is very proud of you.

O sul e o meu pais.
Get independence and unite with Southern Cone

>>74191401
I think that uou are dreaming so get back to work you smelly monkey

>>74191401
Isn't that one mostly white?

>>74191443
São Paulo is not southern

>>74191401
You convinced me. Sao Paulo bunda here I come!

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>>74191401
Would be twice as good if it didn't lose over 90% of its GDP to the Monkey Republic. São Paulo is essentially Cuckold: the state.

>>74191401
you are confusing PPP with nominal GDP. its still $12,000 per person which is only second world at best.

>>74191443
São Paulo is not South but the buffer zone between the South and Northeast.

>>74191506
Then keep being a jungle monkey

>>74191401
>first-world per capita income, 44,599
Do you have a source?

Why isn't it that all Brazilians move there to escape poverty?

>>74191401
Argentina mentined :D

>>74191640
kek they do

>>74191640
Go back to your potato farm before I call your owner, you fucking rotten cabbage stinking bleached nigger.

>>74191682
>kek they do
No they don't. See >>74191532
Also this says GDP/capita of this state is about the same as Slovakia. Slovakia's GDP/capita isn't +44,000 either.

>>74191696
lmao nazis rekt 4eva

sounds like a very white and civilized place and i'm sure no one there has a chip on their shoulder about hating their country and constantly comparing it to others

>>74191465
It was founded by """whites""", but it had massive immigration from other regions.

I think it can be compared to New York

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>>74191549
At least they managed to retain a relatively high IQ, despite being 30% mulatto. They're also highly conscientious and have similar work ethics to Protestants, despite being overwhelmingly Catholic, but that's obviously a trait they inherited from the Vargas Era.

>>74191640
>Why isn't it that all Brazilians move there to escape poverty?
Northeast/Northern Brazilians do, and it's the main reason why the capital is quite the shithole nowadays. Rio de Janeiro also used to be the wealthiest and most prosperous state in Brazil, today it's essentially a crime-ridden slum after Northeasterners became the majority in the late 70's.

>>74191401
>44,599

It's US$27,110 (PPP) according to jewkipedia.

>>74191841
But the dollar is too devalued in Brazil

>>74191804
>Rio de Janeiro also used to be the wealthiest and most prosperous state in Brazil, today it's essentially a crime-ridden slum after Northeasterners became the majority in the late 70's.
OXENTCHE I'LL CUT YOU WITH FISH KNIFE I'M CARRIOCA GEMEIRRO I SHTINK PALM OIL SINCE I WASH BOHN VISH???? YOU ISH JELLY! FAVELA PRIDJE!

>>74191804
Also, unlike Rio de Janeiro that received most of the bottom scum from the Northeast, São Paulo actually brain drained the Northeast, possibly one of the reasons why they didn't turn into a shithole and actually managed to prosper. The scum remained mostly in RJ.

>>74191879
>brain drained the northeast

>>74191640
Cost of living there is also way higher. Rent is like 1000 dollars on average. In downtown it can reach 5000 dollars.

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>>74191992
Recife and partially Ceará had numerous families who were "remnants of the revolution". Those people were wealthy aristocrats who had libertarian views that were ages ahead of Brazil (and unironically still are), obviously very high IQ folks. Those who survived the slaughter promoted by the Empire of Brazil either escaped to São Paulo or eventually migrated to São Paulo at one point. That's brain drainage.

The current mayor of São Paulo and magnate, João Dória, is a descendant of said aristocrats.

>>74191724
shut up Texas stick

>>74192317
>João Dória
he's also a libertarian

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>tiny population
>more Nobel laureates than ALL brazil COMBINED
>gdp comparable to 1st world scandinavian countries
>+90% white
>highest IQ scores in latin america
>richer than brazil, chile and uruguay combined
>internationally recognized as the Paris of south america, basically a white Paris
>more european than europe itself
>the city with the most bookstores in the WORLD
>home to the current Pope and head of the Catholic church worldwide
>most beautiful, classy and european women in the world, euroshits be jealous
>cultural capital of latin america and possibly the western hemishphere
>most beautiful and exquisite accent in the world

GOAT
We are just too good to share continent with latinos.

^^ just são paulo is richer than chile, argentina and uruguay combined

>>74192494
All those families are traditionally libertarian, that was the whole purpose of the revolution. They had a libertarian revolution back in 1817! Brazil 200 years later becomes more and more centralized and authoritarian, it's literally far more backwards than the people who ruled the Province of Pernambuco in the early 19th century, and they barely even explain the basics of the the Pernambucan Revolution at schools.

Just stop and reflect about it for a moment.

>>74192675
São Paulo is wealthier than the entire world combined.

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>>74191401
>Tucanistão

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>>74192652
Even the poorest Southern Brazilian state is still wealthier than Argentina. >>74191532

You people are so arrogant you can't even think properly. Argentina is a shithole.

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>>74192652
>most beautiful, classy and european women in the world, euroshits be jealous
>cultural capital of latin america and possibly the western hemishphere

>>74192652
>+90% white
Qué versión alternativa de Negros Zaires es esa?

>>74192652
And yet you can't help but keep electing the worst kind of Latin American populists.

>>74192652
all because 60% of your population is of Italian origin

>>74192732
Os dois estados governados pelo Brizola, ícone da esquerda estatista que odeia SP, estão falidos. Então cale a boca.

Also.

>anarcomiguxos

Esse é mais do que país onde puta goza e traficante se vicia, é também o país onde anarquista defende mais estado.

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>>74191401

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>>74192732
Never losing it. One thinks Sweden is the cuckold capital of the planet, until they learn about SP.

>>74192916
kek

>>74192830
Quem os faliu foram seus antagonistas políticos

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>>74192916
soon...

74192821
nobody mentioned your moor shithole you pathetic little shit

I won't even bother giving a subhuman like you a (You)

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>>74193111
São Paulo works with false negatives. Organized crime is too close with state government.

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>>74193111
>Argentina is first world, white and peaceful
Your Kirchnerist fake statistics are laughable. Your whole economy, poverty and crime rates are a joke.

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>>74193065
>REEE FUCK THIS STATIST KEK COUNTRY
>I WANT TO BE LIKE THAT OTHER STATIST KEK COUNTRY INSTEAD

>>74191401
just one state is like their whole country?
but they are a huge country. what happened to their people? they don't have sex anymore??

>>74193268
São Paulo is demographically denser. Argentina has a sparse population, outside Buenos Aires. A high population density is fundamental for economic growth.

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>>74192652
>+90% white
>richer than brazil
>european
>cultural capital of latin america
Thanks for the laughs Argentina, I like you.

>>74192652
Mexico, Peru, Brazil and the United States have the richest cultures in Latin America. Mexico and Peru are more culturally homogeneous, so that's a plus for them.

>>74191465
no, Santa Catarina is

>>74193517
>united states
>latin america
Just say Texas stupid monkey.

Why is every murder video from Brazil, Mr. Amazon?

>>74192796
>Macri
>populist
dumass monkey

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>>74196747
>United States
>not Latin America
>le 56% face

>>74196802
Those videos are 99% from the Northeast and North regions, with a share from Rio de Janeiro. Those place are violent because they're not only predominantly black but also because the blacks that were brought to Brazil by the Portuguese weren't just the average African black, they were already slaves in Africa, the vast majority of them criminals.

Unlike the British, the Portuguese didn't conquer black Africans and forcibly brought them to the New World, the Portuguese bought those slaves from slave owners in Africa, and those were the most violent, psychopathic bunch.

That's the main reason why mulatto/black Brazilians in those regions are considerably more violent than African-Americans. They're literally descended from psychopathic maniacs.

Why are brazilian posters so cringy?

>>74197654
"share from rio de janeiro" yeah no, 80% is from RIO

>>74197747
Not really, it's overwhelmingly from the North and Northeast. BestGore did a good job keeping track of it:

http://www.bestgore.com/tag/brazil/

>>74197654
So you implying that Northern Brazil is the most developed Brazil, because most of the Brazilian murder footage around the web is CCTV, which means South Brazil is so poor it can't even afford CCTV.

>>74198482
Not to argue with you guys, but your logic sounds a bit off. Maybe it simply means that CCTVs are everywhere but in South Brazil they don't catch as much murder?

>>74198556
In South Brazil, only business district of capital has CCTV.

>>74192371
But we love you Germany

>>74191401
>44,599
That's in BRL, macaco.

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>>74198482
Nobody minimally educated about Brazil would ever imply that. It's an obvious fact you SJWs refuse to grasp.

>>74191879
Kek

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>>74199653
South Brazilians are """""white"""" and look North-African, they don't fit /int/ or /pol/'s definition of white.

>>74199853
>pegando porto alegre como exemplo
Ai foi desonesto...

>>74199853
SBs are mostly mestizos, ain't nobody trying to trigger ya. And every major capital anywhere in the world is multiracial, no need to project your own insecurities upon other people. We're argument development rates and violent crime, not trying to prove who's "white" or not, if that's your case.

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>>74199853
>POA
POA is receving ppl from other states for decades, what you think it would be nowadays

>>74200207
racist idiot, you are all mixed.

>>74200385
>I'm black
>everybody gotta be black

>>74200385
Yes, I'm mixed. I didn't even mention race. Only you care about it here.

>>74200012
>>74200065
>>74200207
Those people are all white. I know there is this delusion around that South Brazilians are supposed to look Germanic because you saw Gisele Bundchen on TV and that must mean everyone in South Brazil is German, but that's how the average South Brazilian looks like.

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>>74191401
?

>>74200572
t. baiano

>>74200572
They think they live in Germany but look like the blacks.

>>74200572
Nah, South is the whitest region in Brazil (white genetic). But there are about 1200 cities there. So you find a lot of peoples (povos, antes que me corrijam) in South. You can find cities that are 95% white and other cities that are 5% white, roughly saying.

>>74200747
>5% white
>in any South city

this isn't Bahia, m'dude

>>74200774
Ok, I exaggerated.
Maybe 10 to 20% at best. Pelotas is an example.

>>74200788
Ok, I think Pelotas would be 30 to 50 % white.
Cities of frontier are better examples. There are a lot of mixed and descendents of blacks from ragamuffin war.

This city I consider 70 to 80 % white: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifjYvZp97Ak

>>74200788
meh. Pelotas indeed is the blackest city in Rio Grande do Sul (10%), but still has a majority white. They are 80% white, or a bit less, to be honest, following the researches. You guys just exaggerate too much in the both sides.

>>74200878
You need to come here and see with your own eyes. Pardos are considered white here.

>>74200878
I try to find a middle ground on this.
If you consider a person with 90%+ of european genes as white, then probably South is the most white place in whole latinamerica

>>74200904
What city you live? Porto Alegre?

>>74200924
Novo Hamburgo.

>>74200952
Ah, I don't know very well the city, but I knew people from there
(excited for sunday against Internacional?)

>>74200904
Man, I swear to you that I witnessed only few situations where a pardo was being called as white, and I already went to 11 different states.
Generally it happens when the person's skin is not too brown, but the facial features raise doubts.
I hardly can believe that a majority of the pardos are actually being called as whites. Most of them show the miscegenation directly in the skin...

Where is the best place in the South for a gringo to meet cute white girls?

>>74200987
I think he is that typical anon who said that if you have a black/indigenous great-great-great-grandfather you can't be considered white, even if your genetics is 99% white.

>>74201025
Europoo, why would you wanna have something with a br chick? They are the worse...

>>74201075
Becathey're have wildly unrealistic expectations of what they're like.

>>74201026
That's a defense mechanism mixed race people use to develop a sense of belonging. They can't cope with the fact they don't fit in places they'd like to, and they also praise whiteness, so by "proving" those predominantly white folks aren't white is their way of saying "you don't belong to their group, you belong to my group, breed with me". Mixed race people do that everywhere, saying everyone is mixed, everyone came from Africa, etc., that's not exclusive to Brazilians.

>>74201106
Sorry about my keyboard seizure. Anyways I have the stereotypical image of a beautifully tanned BR women and I'm sure they're better than Anglo women.

>>74201132
>tanned BR women
Try Rio de Janeiro then.

>>74201106
Women from all around the globe are equal, all they can think about is money and big dicks...

If you are really interested, Paraná have the cutest chicks, but inside they are all monsters.

>>74201144
Unless you want him killed I wouldn't recommend RJ. Minas Gerais would be the obvious better option if he's looking for decent brown women to meet, and not some gonorrhea favela rat that's probably going to murder him for his cellphone afterwards.

>>74201144
But even your white girls are tanned though aren't they? Floripa gets pretty hot in summer. I would like one like Mallu Magalhães if possible.

>>74201186
Not all of them, man. White people here uses a considered quantity of sunscreen

>>74201186
>that kiwi again
Why don't you meet them online. You're literally obsessed, just do something.

>>74201209
Well I am coming over in July :D

>>74201186
Ok, in whole South you can find cute girls. Not only Paraná as the other anon said.
RS is the state that produced more topmodels in Brazil. Gisele Bündchen, Ana Hickmann and Regina Krilow are from there. It's not a parameter, because you just want simples and cute girls. So.. you can try, but I think it is waste of time. Already said: It's the same old situation (motley crue). Girls are the same here and there

>>74201252
I will find a cute Brazilian girl who loves me for who I am. I know Brazilian girls are good at heart, and won't just marry me for my money.

^ imagine being this delusional

>>74201360
I at least deserved a (VOCÊ).

VERY rude.

>>74201311
I cannot say you dont have a certain advantage, because you have. Brazilians in general like "gringos".
I mean, it's normal. People visiting other countries, speaking another language use to call attention.

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This Polish state has population similar to the population of Slovakia and GDP greater than Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia combined. In addition to having first-world per capita income, 76000

What do you think about this?

>>74201252
>these topmodels
Cool, I live in Venâncio Aires (city of Regina Krillow), 20 minutes distant of Santa Cruz do Sul (Ana Hickmann city)

>>74201403
ahahahah of course you little porch monkeys are looking up to white masters
It's not you Nigger genes or Brazil that brought up top models, it's their white genes

MACACO

>>74201403
Desu I'm not really going over there for sex tourism, but If I meet a cute brasileira it would certainly be a nice bonus.

>>74201469
Damn, who cares, you retard

>>74201469
> New Zealand
> White

>>74201421
Does it lose over 90% of its GDP to keep some massive shitholes in Poland alive? Because São Paulo and pretty much all of the southern half of Brazil do. >>74191532

Unless you thrive off 10% of everything you produce in order to keep worthless life forms alive then you ain't hardcore enough.

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>>74201499

>>74201580
Nevermind, I forgot Poland is a parasite state in the EU, my bad.

>>74201580
>Does it lose over 90% of its GDP to keep some massive shitholes in Poland alive?
It does subsidize some of the poorer regions, yes, although I doubt it would be as much as 90% (I doubt it's the case with Sao Paulo too).
>>74201611
That's very rude of you, we are investing in our infrastructure in order to become a developed and contributing member of European Union some time in the future, and we're doing it rather well since Germany-sama is content with us.

>>74191401
Still more dangerous than where I live.

>>74201712
>(I doubt it's the case with Sao Paulo too).
Just check the last frame >>74191532

São Paulo loses 93% of its GDP to federal taxation and wealth distribution, RJ loses 90%, SC 83%, RS and PR 78%. Of those states, both RS and RJ have gone bankrupt due to being unable to handle it any longer. PR and SC are almost there, São Paulo will eventually be next, and when that happens Brazil is literally going to collapse like a monkey falling of a tree and breaking its neck. And nothing can be done because Brazil is an authoritarian state already. Some specialists have already warned a civil war in Brazil is imminent. We used to say that 10 years ago and people kept telling us we're some conspiracy nutjobs, today it isn't only a possibility but it's actually deemed to happen at one point in a relatively near future.

That being said, you're nowhere near as in deep in the shithole as we currently are, but considering how Poland went to hell and back I'd say you're definitely in a position to judge, anyway. I just hope we have the same will power Poles had to get through it and prosper.

>That's very rude of you
I'm just being an asshole, I actually admire how Poland has been putting that investment to good use. Top PISA scores, growing heavy industry, etc., it will eventually contribute greatly to its neighbors in Eastern Europe as well, unlike Northern Brazil where we keep giving them the money and they keep butchering each other, leeching off the welfare state and being overall worthless animals.

o sul não tem metro rsrsrs huehuehauhehahju

>>74192918
What am I looking at? I heard my country mentioned.

>>74202284
>São Paulo tries to be the nice guy
>is losing it
>unironically hated by those they help
>still keeps it up as if nothing horrible is happening

Much like Sweden. They're the cucklords of the southern hemisphere.

Paraná best state of Brazil

Minas Gerais is best state

Vejam meus vídeos e me doxxem se quiser https://www.youtube.com/user/samuelcf97/videos

>>74201172
good thing i have a big dick becuase i though being a manlet was a death sentence but Br girls must be able to sense my big dick i was very popular with the ladies in Brazil

>>74191465
no area in brazil is white, even the most white ones are just brown and mediterranean looking, just a pair of little villages are mainly german and they don't even speak br br

>>74193111
Is there one for Chile?

>these brazilian arguing wich state is whiter
Being white doesn't make your country better, you monkeys
t. best country in latin america that also happens to be a mestizo country

>>74201224
oh have fun mate are you learning Portuguese?
I'm trying to have my second trip to Brazil this year
>>74201469
irrelevant they like all foreigners from "cool" countries I'm black and people were really interested in me
>>74201311
the non gold diggers are going to want to stay in Brazil
so you'll have to take a gold digger back to NZ, have a long distance thing or move to Brazil (maybe when the economy get's better and politically stable)
>>74201486
anyone can be labeled a sex tourist

>>74206331
this is true, look at fucking Argentina
>>74191401
hey op and all other brs what is the best Sao paulo city to open a business once your economy improves I want to be a Brazilian! America is tired of us brown people.
I'd live to invest my money in Latin america instead of this anti black/brown country.
Brazil is my first choice then Colombia and Panama
Argentina is too white and snobby for me
Chile is too fast talking
Peru is good but the girls are not sexy just "cute"

>>74191401
according to my own experience i think brazil should be separated as south korea and north korea and it will be better option i guess

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>>74206689
you mean like this?

>>74206801
yes i've heard southern part of brazil is much nicer to live compare to the northern part of brazil

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>>74206880
that is true

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>>74205288
>>74205288
>>74205288
>>74205288

>>74206471
That would be Campinas or Ribeirão Preto.

>>74192732
Get out here, Cirofag.

>>74206924
Why don't brazil buy uruguay?

>>74191532
>2011
That's ridiculously outdated for a developing country.

Brazil is a fucking shithole, Argentina too, even in São Paulo, there are like, 3 or 4 good places there are worth living, with an acceptable cost, Buenos Aires is the same fucking thing, but fucking uglier.

Uruguay at least the people has education and is somewhat ok, Chile is definately the best country in South America.

Also, if you have money and wants to live in Brazil for any fucking particular crazy reason, go live in smaller but much more likeable city, like Campos do Jordão or São José dos Campos.

>>74206471
>America is tired of us brown people.

baka gaijin

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Brazil is good

watch my music videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/samuelcf97/videos

>>74209097
Vira-lata e bosta.

>>74209471
>de
Fixed.

>>74209097

You are very deluded in you think Buenos Aires is uglier than Sao Paulo.
Sao Paulo is remarkably ugly. An ocean of apartment buildings from the 70s, a city of over 20 million people no one cares for visiting.

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>>74191401

>>74210901
Triggered. Is there no historic core of any size in São Paulo? What a shithole

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this is são paulo you fucking cuck

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>>74210901
São Paulo has the interior, it is a great state. It has nice cities, not overdeveloped, but it is livable.

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>>74210939

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>>74211065
My city is full of historic buildings. Big cities lost all to ugly buildings

>>74211791
>unironically biting it

>>74202044
>São Paulo loses 93% of its GDP to federal taxation and wealth distribution, RJ loses 90%, SC 83%, RS and PR 78%.


You're very bad at math. Confuses taxation with GDP along with other confusions. It is very clear you are very poorly educated.

Stop shaming São Paulo state here. We need no approval of kike cock-suckers anglos and germans.

The Sao Paulo city alone is richer than most USA states and most European countries. Let europoors rot in islamism and ameripoors be conquered by mexicans. It will be better to us.

>>74211888
/r/ moar

Vejam meus vídeos, seus bostas
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>>74210901
>a city of over 20 million people no one cares for visiting
The city of São Paulo is the business epicenter of Latin America. The state itself is a cultural landmark with countless traditional villages of all sorts, from traditionally Portuguese architecture to Japanese and German architecture.

And who would bother visiting Buenos Aires, when Argentines themselves say it's the "White Paris" of the Southern Hemisphere, and it's literally a shithole, it has nothing unique or traditionally Argentinian to it, it looks just like the average third world "big" city, if you can even call that big. I'd much rather visit actual interesting and unique places like Cuzco, Bogotá and Santiago. Even Porto Alegre, Curitiba and Floripa have their unique traits and cultural symbols to them and aren't mere failed copies of Europe like Buenos Aires is in a desperate attempt to prove the world how "white" and "Paris-like" they are.

All Argentines do is copy central European aesthetics, without ever bothering with learning actual central European values, like liberalism and strict work ethics.

Argentina also has a fake economy with forged statistics in every aspect of it. Your attempts to appear as white and first world as you possibly can are so ridiculous you unironically forget you need to actually work to make that happen. Rosas ruined Argentina to an extent it's difficult to believe was even possible. Argentines developed no identity at all, you're in an eternal fantasy world of LARP.

>>74206331
Exactly.

South Brazil is the most white region in
BR but is a very poor and underdeveloped compared to Sao Paulo which is much more mixed.

/pol/lacks can return to /pol/.

>>74212950
oh yeah
now where is Brazil's so good ethic and work values and liberalism that Argentina lacks so much
:-)

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>>74208582
Cisplatina es brasileira.

REEEEEEEEEEE

Kek.

>>74210901
I agree.

Buenos Aires is certainly more beautiful than Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo grew too much. It was beautiful in the seventies.

Sao Paulo still receive lots of people, but are mostly business tourists.

corno

>>74211410
>>74211448
t. Merdestino invejoso

>>74208582
Because he is ours.

>>74199853
is that ronaldo in the middle? (pointing finger at someone)

>>74213365
Even the poorest Southern Brazilian state has the same PPP as Chile, despite losing 80% of its total GDP to Brazil. Try cutting Chile's GDP by 80% and let's see for how long they prosper.

>>74213403
São Paulo developed its own version of work ethics and liberalism though, it didn't just take those straight from Europe. Your work ethics came from Varguismo, although most of you hate to admit it >>74191804
And you all know the whole 1932 stuff and eventually why Paulistas became so work driven under Vargas.

Liberalism came from all the merchant families who migrated to SP, but mostly from the former Northeastern aristocracy (although most of you hate to admit it), the Levant and Japan. Italians clearly didn't contribute much to that (inb4 muh Venetians, they didn't really contribute to the growth of liberalism anywhere in SB so I doubt they did just that in SP). São Paulo is a thing of its own because there's no other place like it in Brazil, or maybe even in Latin America. It took me a while to learn why it is.

You just need to stop being such federal cucks and start promoting your local secessionist movement, you know you have all the support from literally anywhere south of you.

>>74212950

/thread

If the scc forums taught me something is that buenos aires is no bigger than our biggest non-capital city and looks fucking boring and grey. Not that São Paulo looks any better but has more variety

So I am confused. Are brazilians racists or not? If they are all mixed, why do they always bring up race and always talk about the white South Brazil? Or is just banter?

>>74192652

>tiny population
Kek, Buenos Aires has 2.8 million people, "small population", sure...

>richer than brazil, chile and uruguay combined
That´s arguable

>internationally recognized as the Paris of south america, basically a white Paris
Wait, Paris isn´t white? How?

>more european than europe itself
Kek, I don´t think so, m8; you still have indigenous blood in your veins, no matter how white you look

>the city with the most bookstores in the WORLD
And despite that, "turros" still exist

>most beautiful, classy and european women in the world, euroshits be jealous
To be European you have to be born or/and raised in Europe, so you don´t have "European women" (Only turists)

>cultural capital of latin america and possibly the western hemishphere
Bitch please, tell that to the pic related

>most beautiful and exquisite accent in the world
It´s the same (or 90% similar) accent that Uruguayans have, so there´s nothing special about it

You are still living in a third world country (like me), deal with it.

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>>74214153
Pic related by the way

>>74211410
>>74211448

Kek , it's the classical "look at ur capital slums !" from fags whose state habitants are the ones that build most of them
The worst place in our capital isn't worse than the worst places in Rio/northeast

>>74214093
There never has been racism in Brazil.

Some edgy kids from the south that spent too much time on /pol/ do it because they like to suck anglo and german cock.

Instead they should be studying to make their country better, but that would be impossible for them as they are all total failures in life with 89iq and being white is all they can brag about.

>>74214313
Stop projecting

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South Brazil is a meme

>>74214313
>they like to suck anglo and german cock.
on the other hand i appreciate that the are some brazilians that don't hate us even if some people call it "sucking a dick". whereas the brazilians who hate our imperialistic guts all seem to be poorer people who support PT and many of them are from the north east. it almost sounds like they still live in the 1970's.

>>74214580
both are cucks
one side are cucks who suck north american dick
other side is liberals leftists who literally suck dicks

>>74214313

The whole Brazil is racist as fuck, maybe not openly like Poles, but we are.

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>>74214093
It's mostly just Northern Brazilian monkey/10 banter. Nobody in SB cares about that crap as the overwhelming majority of us are actually mestizos. We're quite xenophobic towards Northerners though, not exactly because of their race, but the way they behave, which is still a racial pattern regardless, but whatever.

>>74214196
Don't even bother replying. Every Latam region has its own unique flavour along with the traditionally Iberian flavour. Argentina is the only place in Latam where they seriously believe they're European and their whole government focus is to make Argentina appear as European and developed as they possibly could, without actually working to achieve that spontaneously.

Obviously we all have some spots of Europeans here and there, but they actually speak the language, practice the culture and preserve the traditions, it's what they actually are and it isn't merely a mask they put on in order to appear as if they belong to a group, like Argentines do. If Argentines practiced actual European culture and values they'd be much like Canada, or Australia/NZ, something they very clearly are not.

>>74214313
You can't be racist when we're all one race, the human race. In Brazil it's just that the southern humans want the northern humans to die off, no racism whatsoever.

>>74214637
You should not know what racism is

>>74214576
Kek thats my city
Im going to festa confederada this year , great stuff

>>74214651
>not exactly because of their race, but the way they behave,
That makes sense to me. If someone chimps out, I will call him a monkey regardless of his actual skin color.

>>74214651

Mestizos = spics

You mean mixed

>>74213686

Por que eu deveria postar coisas boas de São Paulo e do Sul se nunca falam bem da minha região em chans?

>>74214576
Is that Santa Cruz do Sul?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPXiXex4484

>>74192652
wena negro

>>74196747

and Florida, and California, and Arizona and New Mexico

>>74214651
Good reply, by the way, every Latam country has European spots too, not many, but the majority of us are half bloods

>>74214846
I think it's santa barbara do oeste or americana. I live in the former , in the 19th century confederate soldiers moved here and forned a village , later in the 20th century it separated itself from santa barbara and formed the city of americana , which is honestly a lot better and more modern today than santa barbara (without the americans we only had poor italians as habitants , i'm in fact descendent of said italians)
To this day people with confederate heitage organize a festival called Festa dos Confederados , it's quite cool stuff with good food

Que cornos

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>>74215009
Yeah I meant Latam as a whole, you can find escaped nazi babies everywhere, and they're just cancerous. They damage the local culture instead of integrating themselves and actually contributing positively to its development. Take my parents for example, they come from a Nederlander colony named Westfália. People there still speak the language and practice the culture (although they're very welcoming folks and not quite toxic). I was born in a fairly sizable city called Caxias do Sul where most people are of Italian descent, and they still managed to adopt the local Gaucho culture and preserve their ancestral language from Venice along with numerous other cultural traits they brought to the region. It's absolutely beautiful what they managed to achieve, the whole region is very unique because of that. They don't refer to themselves as Italians or Europeans, they merely go by Talian or just the macroregional demonym (Serrano).

I'm perfectly fine with those colonies like Westfália because they're small and isolated, they're just doing their thing. What I don't like are people who deliberately refuse to adopt and shape the local culture to create something of its own, and that resistance is toxic as fuck. Those are the ones I'd honestly want to see "going back".

>>74214637
Xenophobia =/= racism. Those two words exist for a reason, and I personally don't believe the latter, because every single nation and region is xenophobic towards some group, regardless if they belong to the same racial group or not.

>>74214196
>mexico capital
>american express
do mexicans cringe at that considering your strained relationship with the us?

>>74215566

But tge real scum are Italians, not Germans or Slavs.

Italians are so awful, assholes, that not even they put up with themselves.

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>>74191401
It's also the home ground of the PCC

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeiro_Comando_da_Capital

>>74215704

So much this. Every region with lot of Italian ancestry thinks they are ultimate shit in South America when they are shitholes.

Germans are hardworking.

why are rAPEzzilian posters so much cringe?

>>74193111
That's actually fake, criminals run the city so a lot is not reported

>>74208582
They can't afford us.

>>74215932

Montevideo is more dangerous than São Paulo? Kek

>>74215917
>argentine
>talk about cringe

What is your honest opnion of argentina and argentine people ?

>>74215917

It's called: Libertarians, or libercucks. Libertarians are ultimate cucks and elitists. They aren't nationalists or right wing.

>>74216013

Is because ur irrelevant wannabe-argentina buffer state
Also ur gay

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>>74215704
The best colonies in SB and SP were founded by Italians, mostly northern Italians. They not only integrate exceptionally well but also shape the local culture into something positively unique. Germans and Slavs refuse to assimilate and retain the exact same European culture they brought, even when they mix with the locals, which is fucking hilarious. Why not preserve some of the most remarkable traits while also adopting local cultural traits to create something unique, as it should be?

Oktoberfest and the likes are literal abominations. Those events make me cringe to the bones.

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>>74191401
>>74216018
Montevideo has been rated for years as the best city of latin america i've no idea why chimpanzilians are trying to force this shit.

Cerra y nos vamos brazuka.

>>74216139
>peão
>galpão
>estância
Are you talking about RS? Why did you post a picture about gaúcho?

>>74216139

I prefer Germans 1000 times over Italians. Germans are realists and hardworking. Unlike Italians that love to live in fantasy.

Just see Argentina, Uruguay, assholes from SP and RS.

Shitholes with special snowflake complex, just like Italians. Italians don't even like themselves.

>>74216139
>oktoberfest and the likes are literal abominations. Those events make me cringe to the bones.
They love it and have fun for decades. Who cares what you feel about it. Festa da Uva is the same, CTGs. There is a lot of artificiality in all of these, but the love it and that's what matters most.

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>>74216308

Almost all the great industries in Sao Paulo from the last century were founded by italians, Romi comes to mind specially.
Italians introduced a lot of elements in the local culture and are currently THE ONLY ones that care about preserving the caipira identity.
Go dar o cu filthy gaucho

>>74216308
We are al Amerindians here and my country is the result of 200 years of hard Amerindian work so stfu faggot, stop bringing up my beloved nation into your monkey quarrels.

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>>74216254
Because that's common sight in RS, specifically in Serra Gaúcha. People who look blatantly European but were raised into Gauchismo and practice the local culture, along with their own inherited traits.

Gauchos were by definition mestizos, in RS literally everyone is a Gaucho, regardless of ethnic background. It's essentially a monocultural state with different flavours of the same mother culture, and an example of how it should be. I really don't like Oktoberfest and those exclusively German events. That's not only offensive but also cringy as fuck. You either assimilate or get the fuck back to whatever hellhole you crawled from.

Also, the Germans in RS also assimilated exceptionally well. I'd say every migrant group in RS was successfully assimilated into Gauchismo, and much like the Italians they also developed their own unique local culture and language. It's all about having a stronger, dominant local culture for them assimilate themselves into. Without a culture there's nothing to be assimilated into, and that's when multicultural shitholes like Paraná, Santa Catarina and São Paulo come to be.

>>74216725
I know everything you said. I live in region of Vales do Rio Pardo e Taquari. My family is descendants of german and I my sister lives in Caxias do Sul
I just questioned because I thought at first you were talking only about SP

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>>74216725
>You either assimilate or get the fuck back to whatever hellhole you crawled from.
And we're damn serious about that.

>>74216725
I don't understand why you consider it cringe. You are an exception, desu

>>74216725
I like the gaucho culture in RS, because the people are very united on that. Every September 20, 100% of the cities have 'Desfile Farroupilha' happening.

>>74191401
>Motorista fura bloqueio e atropela manifestantes em São Paulo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49xCpKcRzRk

>>74214153
buenos aires is 17million people...

>>74192918
So is Sao Paulo rich because they export something? Or because they are the area where the HQ of Brazilian corporations are?

>>74193349
>A high population density is fundamental for economic growth.
No, its not.
Good infrastructure, a population wealthy enough to invest, "good" taxes, and good reinvestment is needed for economic growth.
Otherwise you get a banana republic that collapses once global raw commodity prices go down.

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>>74217239
Not at all. Rio Grande do Sul is an exception on its own. Even different dialects are perceived differently throughout the state. In the region of Missões for example if you don't speak that one specific dialect or at least a dialect that's somewhat similar to the original Guasca (which is essentially Portuguese spoken by a Hispanic tbqh) you will automatically be treated as a second class citizen, and you won't be respected at all, even if you're an actual Gaucho.

Missioneiros are hardcore xenophobes, it's really no wonder most of our orthodox musicians are from Missões. Outside missões we ain't that xenophobic [specially towards fellow Gauchos] but we generally don't accept foreign cultures. Does the word Nativism rings a bell?

The terms "carcamano" and "colono" are examples of how people here behave when in contact with an outside culture. We don't care where you came from, it could be literally anywhere, if you don't assimilate you will be treated as a second class citizen regardless of your ethnic background.

Hell, your most xenophobic president was a Gaucho who unironically sought to eradicate every foreign culture from RS. Does Varguismo and Campanha de Nacionalização ring a bell?

>>74217715
SP and RJ are rich because they are financial centers of Brazil. Companies from all over the country transfer their headquarters to the two states. Therefore, taxes of large companies in the South and Northeast, for example, are accounted for as state of São Paulo.

>>74217789
Vargas was really bad for RS, I think

>>74217695
Kek, no, check the census

>>74217789
That picture is not from a CTG, right? I think It is a presentation of a CTG in ENART in SCS.

>>74217715

see >>74217820
but don't take that as the full answer.
São Paulo have lots of local industries that export stuff worldwide. Like Industrias Romi, Embraer, Avibras and many others (basically almost all the tech stuff made in brazil is from here, like planes and cncs)
Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Brazil for reference (that's not all of our companies tho, just the major ones). No other state in Brazil (heck, in south america) have a industrial capacity like ours

Aside from that we have a very big agriculture sector being one of the best producers of coffe, orange an soybean in Brazil

>>74218255
So basically due shitty tax schemes, SP and RJ is "artificially large"?
And because they are artificially large, the population also gets artificially large?

Which basically means that it if seceded, it would become poor over night?

Thats shameful.
Quite a bit.

>>74217715
>No, its not.
That's exactly why I specifically chose the word "Fundamental". There's a direct correlation between population density and development, just check the PD maps of the USA, Brazil, Canada and Australia, it doesn't take much for you to digest the idea.

Having a high population density isn't the driving engine for development, it's the foundation of every developed society. If you have your population scatted all over the place you won't be able to make it big and highly functional. Think of Australia for example and what it would look like if Aussies were spread all over the outback, wasting their resources throughout their whole country. Or if Canadians were spread all over the northern tundras. It just doesn't work. The most isolated places are also the most underdeveloped, compared to the major, denser neighbouring cities.

Then you can invest in infrastructure, which makes logistics considerably easier when everything is near you, low taxes that eventually attract investors, etc. Uruguay for example has all that, but their population is so ridiculously small they can barely do a thing. You need people in order to build things, without people you can't build things, and that's the most basic priority of a colony: gather resources, guarantee your daily food supply and just keep breeding so you actually have enough people to work on your infrastructure.

Got the top quality infrastructure for schools, mining and farming? Great, now you have enough resources and people available to invest on your science industry, and you just created a first world economy.

>>74217873
Vargas was both good and bad. He contributed to the strengthening of our local culture with the foundation of the MTG in 1947. The problem is that he also contributed to the growth of statist and fascist ideas in RS, instead of liberal values, and that gets really cancerous overtime. Once socialists took the government they used that state power created by Vargas to butcher BR.

>>74218338

No
You get it all wrong. São Paulo has always been a economic powerhouse in Brazil, and we were the first ones to embrace industrialization due to our need to build railways to transport our coffe production (we used to be the largest producers of coffe in the world until 1950).
Rio de Janeiro was Brazil's capital and even Portugal capital for some time, so, it's no surprise they're rich.
São Paulo has always developed it's internal economy, if it was for we to get independence tomorrow we would do fairly well since our infraestructure is good and we would be able to do a shit ton with the money the government steal from us every year (no 90% as some said, but surely more than 50%).
We've never "artificially" increased our economy or population, we've always been a power in Brazil and people from all over the country come here looking for work

Search for yourself white boy

>>74218338
What are you even talking about, São Paulo carries half of Brazil on its back >>74191532 , nothing "artificial" about SP or even RJ.

If SP seceded it would unironically become the freest economy in Latam, and very likely also the most developed economy in the continent. They have both the work ethics and liberalism, the main driving forces of development. This is what the Brazilian government does, it's the polar opposite of free market and that affects the whole federation, making it a rough living for everyone, regardless of work ethics and economic traditions >>74192750

This year they even elected an openly Ancap mayor that still managed to improve their economy despite the fact that Brazil is literally falling apart. If SP was an independent nation and Dória was their president they would probably be laughing at Brazil right now, or more likely preparing for a Brazilian occupation from the Bolivarian Monkey Republic.

>>74218763
You spout a lot of meme words.
And you don't understand the difference between a rural wasteland and a rural community.
Nor did you address reinvestment or taxes.
Or even mention what Infrastructure is, you never adressed why a spread population is detrimental to infrastructure
Or why a Service economy is a external accessory to production, without any value for itself.

As of your post, you are unable to discus economics, or why some nations are poor.

>Mentions nation built by grandson of Canaries and who was a cattle smugler
>Fail to compare it to smaller nations who do better, due not being cattle economies

>>74191401
every one knows: in Brazil the south works so the north can party

>>74218872
>>74219265
You are ignoring the HQs in São Paulo. The taxes are artificially increased.
Souza Cruz, for example, is the 2nd or 3rd company that pay more taxes in Brazil. It's a company of RS, but taxes are accounted for RJ because they moved their headquarters there

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>>74219401
>let me teach you about your country: the post
And you clearly didn't read it thoroughly.

>the difference between a rural wasteland and a rural community
Because scattering all over the place instead of developing small but highly productive communities is the real deal. Certainly the Portuguese did a great job violating the Treaty of Tordesillas and building numerous isolated shitholes all over South America, unlike what they did in SP and RJ, with small, but highly productive city-states growing and expanding slowly overtime in order to guarantee the resources required to maintain high standards of infrastructure, just as the Anglos did in their respective overseas territories.

>you never adressed why a spread population is detrimental to infrastructure
When resources are spread across long distances instead of being invested on a small area, preferably nearby, it's only intuitive to assume it would be detrimental to infrastructure and the overall development of a colony. It's a very pragmatic concept, and you don't have to be a specialist to realize it.

British colonists were successful mainly because they focused on development rather than territorial expansionism. You bring the settlers to a fertile and safe area with easy access to mineral resources, they farm the land, with food they're free to look for the most basic resources needed to build infrastructure, such as houses, roads and railways. You keep farming and mining the land and improving your infrastructure until your small settlement has reached British standards of living. Now you're able to expand and look for a new fertile and safe area to settle and improve even faster with the help of investors and manpower from the neighbouring settlement.

That's what I meant when I mentioned the correlation between population density and development, because no society can develop if their population is randomly spread all over the place. It isn't difficult to grasp.

>>74219401
>As of your post, you are unable to discus economics, or why some nations are poor.
Because you clearly countered my arguments by simply disagreeing with them without ever giving a single explanation as to why you disagree. When you disagree with you someone you give them a reasonable counter-argument, and that's exactly what you dindu.

And poverty is directly related to IQ. You don't develop an industrial powerhouse by throwing resources at chimpanzees.

>>74220877
I think your ignorance shows the best in your second paragraph.
Your third one shows you don't understand how Railways was built. Or why.

The basic question you should ask yourself is: Why is railways expensive to build, but why do they always indirectly pay for themselves?
Why do cities that is profitable, pop up alongside huge rivers, fjords or the sea?

Another question you fail to ask yourself is a simple one: Why are ghettoes detrimental to the economy.

>>74221038
Poverty is related to lack of infrastructure.
And infrastructure is not just transportation, its also education and training.
Lack of infrastructure is related to lack of reinvestment, or lack of a strong government.
Reinvestment is why Russia is a oligarch shithole, instead of having a non banana republic economy, or why United Fruit Company used to be a big deal.

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>>74214058

that is now how the economy works. Your PPP is your PPP, Federal transfers from wealthy provinces/states to poorer ones dont change your PPP. In fact, PPP is one of the deciding factors for that.

For example, Buenos Aires city keeps only 3.75% of federal taxes collected in that city. 96.25% is distributed among poorer provinces. The city maintains itself with local non federal taxes. That doesnt affect the ppp or gdp.

>>74217950
not him, Buenos Aires proper has 2.8 million people, the Metropolitan area has 13 million people.

In the rest of Buenos Aires province there are 4 million people more but they shouldnt be counted since we are talking of people who are hundreds of km away.

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>>74221223
Anyway, poverty is directly related to IQ, which correlates with the lack of infrastructure. Maybe you should handle Norway to a population with an average IQ of 70 and see what they do with your Norwegian infrastructure. Certainly they'll be able to maintain your prosperity rates, and that's why multiculturalism always works.

>>74221233
Well, if you accept having your money forcibly taken from you and placed somewhere else instead of being constantly invested in your own area, fine by me. They could keep taking those resources from you until every single place on Earth has reached your current Porteño standards of living, so long you accept the fact that your standards of living will be halted until everyone else has reached it. That's fascism, and that's one step away from socialism, which at that point is quite imminent if the state wants to maintain its size and power.

Brazilian investors and businessmen are leaving Brazil due to heavy government taxation and distribution of wealth. The state loses profit, so they raise the taxes, more investors leave, so they keep raising the taxes, and even more investors leave the country, and the government raises the taxes even higher until the state is unable to maintain itself and inevitably collapses under its own weight, as already happened in Rio de Janeiro, Rio Grande do Sul and Minas Gerais in Brazil, with Santa Catarina, Paraná and Espírito Santo also following the same path.

You either keep very small taxes and allow investors to actually invest, and regions to develop their own infrastructure independently according to their own scarcity and skills, or you're inevitably deemed to become a totalitarian state where everyone is equally poor.

>>74221815
First off: Norway has the land size needed to handle at the least 130 million people

Secondly: Norway do not have infrastructure to handle more than 6-9 million people at the moment

Third: Stupid people is generally irrelevant for infrastructure, the core builder tends to be investments(mining) or governmental ambition.
You can't have inland mining without railroads. Not in a realistic volume.
You can't have large capitals without proper railroads to support decentralized industry or agriculture, or a large coastline.

You are basically making the error of confusing a service economy, a country that is doing centralization, and a nation which has no infrastructure.

Fourth: People are leaving BR not because of higher Taxes, but because its not paying taxes when they see that fundamentally the state doesn't do its job.
Its one thing for them to live in a gated community, with separate groceries than rest of the nation. Its another one to see that the systematic corruption never ends, and the favealas keep on staying.

Fifth: Brazils coast to land ratio is pretty bad. With rivers its a lot better, but its still bad.
Water is free infrastructure, with little of the cost that plagues railroads or even ineffective car highways.

>>74221233
I don´t know how does that work; Mexico City has 8.9 million people; but years before they said they were 20,000,000 people living there

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>>74222955
Just keep bringing in the refugees, buddy. IQ is a myth created by racists to keep the poor people down. Just keep giving them enough money and you'll be able to accommodate billions of them. And tax evasion certainly isn't a crime in Brazil, because as you already know Brazil is a free democracy and most definitely not an authoritarian socialist state, and that's why investors and businessmen aren't leaving Brazil, they're just not paying their taxes properly!

Oh, dummy me! Those filthy capitalist pigs... *baka*. Thankfully we have first worlders like you to teach us about our third world shitholes.

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>>74223425
Why are you acting like a confused 12 year old?

IQ is a sign of education.
Education is a sign of working infrastructure, and systems of education.
Being overeducated, do not mean you have the money or will needed to build a railroad.
Roadroad is where money is, because its needed to import and export goods.

But that brings us to something you forget to talk about: IQ is also a result of nurture.
So if your family is niggers, and don't live in a nigger land, you are still a second generation nigger. Or dindu. Of Franceman. Or Jew. Or Swede.
Everything that will be wrong with the parents, still influence their children. Education can only put a plaster on it, and hope they don't scratch it away.
So if we took in 500.000 Arabs, they would have 500.000 arab children, and their arabarabchildren would still be arabs if they live together.
Our education system means that a larger amount of arabarabs will stop being Arabs, due education.
But it won't fix that Arabarabs is still Arabs, or that Arabarabarabarab's could still be Arabs.

I just see a lot of angry words.
Anger over that the "more rich states" get taxed so rest of the nation do not collapse. But also anger at the systematic corruption that means Hueland will never be great.

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>>74223868
>Why are you acting like a confused 12 year old?
That's how you're supposed to behave when talking to a child, otherwise they don't understand you. Eventually you realize there's no point trying to debate complex subjects with them as their brain isn't fully developed yet, so you just ignore them and move on.

>>74192652
kys

>>74224082
You should at the least post proper charts when arguing.
"Black" doesn't tell us the childrens ancestry.
Nor do white, since Scandinav, Lapp, Slavs, Balts, Germanics is different ethnicities.
The same is true of "Asian", when Han isn't Hui or Mongol.

The chart looks useful, but provides no deeper information, nor do it discriminate against infant adoptions versus child adoptions.
You also forgot a chart of Unadopted childrens scores.

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>>74224420
One race: the Human race. Given the right circumstances we're all literally the exact same person, aside from phenotype differences that is, also a social construct invented by the East Asian man to keep the European man and sub-Saharan African man down.

>>74224606
One Race, several ethnicities, several cultures.
Go home

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>>74224678
You tell 'em, my fellow human.

>>74223868
kek spoken like a true poltard
also i don't think you understand what nurture is, my confused nazi friend. because you basically contradict yourself. if you take a black newborn and bring it up in a white family he will be just like his new family. that's the meaning of nurture. as opposed to nature, in which case he would end up just like you describe

what the fuck is happening in this thread

>>74228551
Edgy /pol/tard Brazilian shitposting
Nothing special

>>74223868
>Our education system means that a larger amount of arabarabs will stop being Arabs

Stop immediately, you clearly have zero experience with this subject.

>>74228952
and why would they stop being arabs if their parents, other relatives, friends, etc are all arabs who hate all things french. sure they will speak good french (although they can't probably spell for shit) but they will never become french

>>74228952
It means what it means.
Our general experience is that cultural isolation is a far better than education for the sake of changing morals.

Ghetto kids on the other hand is rare about migration.
Most who leave is because they pursue higher education, and leave Oslo, or because the army lets them have a year to "run away".
So yes: It helps, but not a lot.

>>74217585
I don't see literally nothing wrong with that.

Don't you run over liberals in your country? Hue.

>>74229652
hey can some of you brazilian anons help me find a video where some monkeys tried to stop a fast moving car to rob the driver but he didn't stop? pare! pare! boom splat. funny as hell

>>74229652
All Brazilians must die. Whenever a Brazilian dies, i masturbate.

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>>74230144
can you show us that one were they shart at the mart?

>>74230144
I only know the ones that the car run over protesting liberals. It already became almost a national reactionary sport here. I have more than 10 videos of that saved on my PC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct2rQNrLjAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ipl4P-0HC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1LXsZRTsU

>>74191532
That would imply that the government taxes literally 100% of everything

Would you please give us data on Sao Paulo's nominal GDP (US$) and it's nominal contribution to federal taxes (US$)?

>>74230560
found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug2oHgMwP_M