Are Ivy-league and Oxbridge people REALLY better than the rest

>>74012421
yeah

No. The most important thing I learned in university is that formal education often doesn't equate intelligence.

>>74012421
Maybe. No education is a guarantee of intellectual superiority, individually looking. I'd say they definitely have more "drive" and focus in their life

>>74012490
That's good enough for me

Consider this thread closed mods

>>74012535
>>74012546
Then what constitute true intelligence for you? For me, its an admirable independence and clarity of mind

Universities hoarding talented individuals and brainwashing them to be mediocre is the biggest cancer of humanity.
It fact is the sole reason we still are not colonizing outer space.

>>74012657
Education was always going to be commercialized, doesn't mean we can't introduce reform

>>74012421
Ivy league education is more about establishing connections to high society than the stuff you learn there

>>74012809
Okay now I agree with the Finn, the nepotism is stagnating true scientific advancement

>>74012421
Depends on their scores I guess.

In Israeli Technion if you score 90+ you're instantly scouted by hi-tech companies.

>>74012421
Not necessarily, but it does play a huge part in it. A large proportion of people who go to Ivy Leagues have affluent parents that have connections with the schools.

Wealth is very much a part of the equation, but that's not the only factor in play.

ivy league universities are a meme nowadays
its much more about nepotism and background than actual intelligence nowadays

>>74013864
more like its all about filling 90% spots with talented foreigners

>>74012421
People who attend top universities are at least usually more intelligent than the vast majority of people. Thia isn't exactly a mean feat, though; something a good many anons in this thread would easily be smarter than the majority of humanity, considering there are billions of us who don't even receive a basic education.
Who are your "rest of us" here, anon? Most people are as dumb as their environment permits.

No idea. None of us are smart enough to decide that.

>>74014097
Bit of a paradoxical statement, isn't it? Assuming knowledge of something in order claim ignorance on it.

>>74012421
Not necessarily, you just need to be able to work hard to go to those universities. You could be dumb as a brick and still get a place there if you studied hard enough.

>>74014227
No.

>>74014364
Yes.

>>74012421
The ones who got in because of rich parents and connections - not necessarily. The ones who are from normal/poor backgrounds? Definitely.

>>74012421
you think a huge ass tuition is the deciding factor for intelligence?
do you think all their students are selected based on IQ?

these are basics man
they are only fancy brands

http://www.businessinsider.com/black-lives-matter-stanford-application-2017-4

>>74014629
He applied for some meme arts program, not serious stuff like STEM, medicine or business.

The difference between people who get their master degree and regular people is a difference of night and day.

>>74014464
Nigger, you're a fucking moron if you think some dumb cunt can simply "study hard" and make it into these top universities.
Just go back to /brit/ with the other idiots. I swear poms are even more obnoxious than burgers on /int/. Nothing but a shitstain on the Commonwealth.

>>74014862
Hard work trumps talent, friend. Typical Australian shitpost.

>>74014847
As some have said being able to focus and work hard is probably the most important thing if you want to get through it.
But if you are dumb or have a bad memory you will need a lot more discipline to compensate for it.

And it also happens that people are intelligent, but don't have the discipline. But those people tend to surround themselves with dumb people, which will impact their development.