How come the EU tolerates total discrimination of Russians in

>>73831574
lol balkan savages get btfo by turkey

>>73831574
>said the Russian permanent representative to the EU Vladimir Chizhov
Stopped reading there

can't discriminate against r*ssians

>>73831613
>Lithuania
How did you get out of filter?

Now it should be fine though.

*urla na orkovskom*
*zguta hektolitar ruske sperme *

>>73831574
>"""""discrimination""""" of Russians in the Baltic states

>>73831574
fuck off russians

>>73831574
how many of these mongols have EU citizenship?

>>73831574
Why is it always foreigners complaining about their rights and not them? I honestly have never seen any Russian minority complaining

This is as cringy as the Western fags complaining about someone getting offended even when the supposedly offended person doesn't complain

Because russia can actually occupy the baltics and by doing it get a wider access to the baltic sea, what will expand russian influence in one of the most important areas of europe, threaten trade inside the EU and put pressure over the area beyond kaliningrad and st Petersburg

Russia already got a huge port when they annexed crimea and now they have a bigger geopolitical influence over the black sea, the EU is worried about the same thing happening in the future when the russian population in the baltics surpasses the native population

Now when it comes to the balkans, russians are not in your backyard, they would have to annex the whole of Ukraine/romania and many other territories in order to present a real threat to your sovereignty

But still it seems like the EU is gonna take care of you guys in the near future since there's a new sultan right next to your front door

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>>73831978
We don't need the EU to take care of us. I want them to practice what they preach everywhere or GTFO with their "holier than thou" and "if you dont't do this..." attitude.

>>73832369
I understand your point, but I'm quite sure you already know how the EU works in practice

They don't want russia to get bigger or wealthier because it would threaten the EU on multiple levels, so they would use this kind of approach only when it fits their needs, just like they're doing in the baltics

But when it comes to smaller states like Macedonia, what will they gain if other minorities claim more autonomy and rights? They will try to secede, cause social turmoil and possibly weaken the sovereignty of your country, making it easier to control and easier for them to get their things through

Why did they recognize kosovo as a sovereign state? Why didn't western Europe intervene in the begging of the civil war back in the 90's instead of calling nato years later?

If anything they'll just profit geopolitical perks from albanians claiming more land in the balkans, just like they did the last few years

You can see a lot of regional sentiment growing in europe, all those referendums in scotland and spain
One may argue that's not the same case, but all those calls for regional autonomy only serves to weaken the "big states" and fragment their abilities to get by out of the EU's sphere of influence

>>73831574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKiFCIS2GJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb9gHmN0dB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpm66jocgQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCABzGj-W3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWkof1p1XbU

>discrimination of Russians

kys

>>73831574
Because the EU is just an American puppet

>>73832949
>People celebrating V-day or a dude waving a flag
S-so what do you mean by this?

>>73833090
they can do it at home

>>73833214
They are at home. They were born there.

>>73832996
No Way! :O

>>73831574
Realpolitik

The west is not a force of good, it is a force to promote the west and it's power.

>>73833357
that's even worse

>>73833531
This

There are no good guys in politics.

>>73821880
Because this is just a pretense for Russia to grab some more clay on the pretext of defending its diaspora.

Lmao, if russians are discriminated so much why dont they just leave? Ill tell you why, because they are not dicriminated.

>>73831574
> Weren't Western states supposed to be the "force of good"
course not
at most, they're the "force for gay"

>>73834216
that's a stupid argument to be honest

>>73834226
at least they treat their own citizens much better than Russia does

>>73834272
so what
you don't faggots care about how Russia treats Russians
you only mention it as ome soth of an ad hominem argument, but it isn't

we're Russians. when we've had enough bad treatment from our government, we'd go out on the streets, wreck our country and murder some royalty.

and suure then you're all be about how bad we're treating the roylaty again

Fuck off go have a gay parade somewhere else, we're doing fine

>>73834272
>that's a stupid argument to be honest

debate me, anon, why dont so called discriminated russians leave? they are living on a foreign land, speaking unoficial states language and being drunk 24/7. Why dont tthe russians get back to russia?

There's no such thing as "discrimination" against russians, only rightful treatment. They've killed and enslaved the balts for centuries, it only serves them right to see their precious people suffer in the hands of someone else than themselves. And they can't lift a finger to stop it.

I actually admire the balts for that. Call them small, call them petty they've got more balls than many western nations.

>>73834427
if 200$ salary is fine 4 u then keep doing what you doing and fuck off from europe

>>73834464
wiki says 5% of your population is Russian. why even worry? Fyrom, the ''''country'''' of OP, is 1/3 Albanian.

>>73834427
I don't care much about Russia, I'm just telling you how it is. it's true that the West is hypocritical but they do treat their own citizens much better, even if they are imperialists like Russia

>>73834464
I wasn't opining on whether they are discriminated. just saying that some discrimination isn't enough to make a whole minority get up and leave necessarily, especially when they have a choice between a EU country and Russia

>>73834539
im tallking about Latvia/Estonia where russian pop is about 20%

>>73834497
again you talk as if you care about my salary
you don't

and don't talk like you own Europe. you don't, and it's a very messy place to own anyway. everybody that did, didn't end well.

My support for the ethnic Russians / Russian-speaking minorities in the Baltic countries.

Their governments carry out policies of linguistic discrimination and ethnic extermination, it's time to say stop.

>>73834680
>ethnic extermination

i wish, anon, i wish

>>73834571
> I'm just telling you how it is. it's true that the West is hypocritical but they do treat their own citizens much better, even if they are imperialists like Russia

to me it sounds like "of course zebras have stripes, but you can't drink a chair"
that sentence makes no sence, and while truthful, it doesn't "prove" anything.

as to West treating people well, there is west and "west". Russia treats its minorities like Tatars, better than Baltics treat Russians, for example. Baltics isnt the West, but they're "west" and I assume you count them in

>>73834631
your shithole is directly mending in my country affairs, they wanna drag us to hell with you, if you ask me russians, russian language and russia should be banned from europe

>>73834571
>>73834464
ha. people are leaving your country allright, russians and locals.

it's not instantanious though, it's a process.

>>73834767
you wrote this
>Weren't Western states supposed to be the "force of good"
>>at most, they're the "force for gay"

and I agree with you on that. Western foreign policy leaves much to be desired

but they're still more of a "force for good" considering they at least treat their own people much better than Russia does. even that "force for gay" part you mention is included in that, in fact. it's not a coincidence that the most LGBT friendly countries in Europe are also on average the ones who generally care for their citizens more

>>73834745

Hey guys, report this message to your local police. I just did it.

http://www.report-it.org.uk/your_police_force

why doesnt moscow oblast give language rights to milion of central asian turks?

>>73831574
>MUH LANGUAGE THAT JUST SO HAPPENT TO BE IN THE TOP 10 MOST SPOKEN IN THE WORLD ISN'T BEING REPRESENTED OFFICIALLY IN A COUNTRY WHERE THERE AREN'T EVEN 10 MILLION SPAKERS OF THE MAJORITY LANGUAGE REEEEEEEEE

This is why I hate Russia more an more every month. Three years ago I thought you guys were cool.

>>73834799
well some polls say most people in your cunt are not as afraid of Russian "hell" as you seem to be

but I guess they really forgot to ask you

>>73834680
If they are discriminated, how cone they speak Russian every day of their life, uncensored, in shops and other places? Your definition of discrimination must be weird

Same reason people let Prussia get cleansed from Germans without anyone batting an eye.
They are human garbage and can piss off.

>>73834917
Because they don't permanently live here and they don't demand that.

>>73835030
>they don't permanently live
They don't? When are they leaving?

>>73834955
not for long. since info got leaked that you supported ethnic cleansing of serbs from croatia

>>73834858
>but they're still more of a "force for good" considering they at least treat their own people much better than Russia does.
again "grass is green but at least my TV is not a Sony".

we're on an /int/ right now. internationally, you don't describe country as a "force for good" because it treats its people well. Because by that definition say Waffen SS or NKVD is a force for good too. I mean, they treated some others like shit, but hey, they had good pay and were well respected.. among themselves and their own.

>>73835073
good question indeed

>>73835120
I din't.
Russians didn't
I wonder who you mean though

>>73835073
They leave and return every year. They just work here. Their families are mostly back there.

>>73835126
you reduced "the west" to "lel faggots" but the thing is that Russia treats even its own citizens horribly so maybe they could use some of that Western faggotry, you know. and arguably, most "western" countries are less of a nuisance than Russia is even with regard to foreign policy

>>73835209
>>73835261
>>73835073
see it that way, they're like lithuanians in actual Europe. Without a home, but they at least can make money in Moscow to feed their families

gotta symapthise

>>73834967
Tell me this:

Is Russian an official language of state institutions in the places where they make up the majority of the population?
Do they get state funding for media in the Russian language?
Are they allowed to have their education (primary, secondary, tertiary) completely in Russian and all funded by the state?
Do Russians get mandatory quotas for employment in government institutions and enterprises solely based on the fact that they are Russians and not because of qualifications?
Do Russians get mandatory state funded university education quotas where the language of instruction is not Russian solely because of the fact that they are Russians and not because of anything else?

I doubt this is the case in any Baltic state.

>>73835356
Grujo will start a war, only to escape investigation.

>>73831574
Woe to the orphans of a dead Empire

They can be happy they didn't got Beneš´d.

>>73835356
yea theres also a toilet in every institution where you get to lick the picture of putins ass preparing for the meetup

>>73835285
most "western" countries are subjects to outside control to some extent.

West as an entity is in perpetual state of war and levelling a country on false evidence is just something it normally does. Russia's pretty much new into the game without hope to catch up.

But at least they care about gay rights, so those half a million estimated dead iraquis and birth of groups like ISIS was worth it, am i right?

>>73835356
you also forgot to mention that you lost the war to people that has those rights in your country
when did russians in latvia went to war with latvia?

>>73835484
ew that's gross even for a hungarian

>>73833531
>it is a force to promote the west and it's power

I wish. So far the only country capable of that is the USA.

>>73835499
>Russia's pretty much new into the game
Russia has been expanding for the last two centuries, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>73835535
never
but if you let latvians tell you, it's since the beginning of time
maybe you're right and they should pay reparations then, for those imaginary wars?

nah, just kidding. give Russians the same rights minorities in Russia have, and that's that

>>73835499
you destroyed Afghanistan,Ukraine and tried that shit with Georgia, you did catch up pretty fast

>>73835499
>West as an entity is in perpetual state of war and levelling a country on false evidence is just something it normally does

I think we agreed on that in the first place. it's interesting that you're willing to brush Russia's "interventions" on similarly flimsy pretexts mostly aside though. "poor Russia, no hope to catching up to those awful masterminds"

>>73835665
we helped afghanistan

>>73835535
>you also forgot to mention that you lost the war
Good b8, enough to make me reply to you.

>>73835607
last I heard it was shrinking for over a century, what the fuck are YOU on about

I'm talking about half a million dead in wars and regional disasters West initiated. At least half a million. Only in the last 17 years when Putin was even a thing

>>73835356
well these people refuse to learn their new country language and take citizenship

they still waiting for red rmy to return

>>73835677
>help by invasion
good joke temudzin

>>73835683
they gave up on arms in exchange for rights?
was that a win or loss?

>>73835720
>Russia became the largest country on Earth by pacifism, while the evil West is constantly at war

>>73835665
afgainstan is the only soviet intervention, it counts with things like vietnam bro

and in georgia (1000 dead, started by georgian shelling on Russian troops according to EU report) and in Ukriane (10000 dead all told, started after events including a phone call where US State Dept people literally pick Ukrainian prime minister) Russia doesn't come close to hundreds of thousands dead in just one war the West single-handedly started using fake WMD evidence.

>>73835356
why should they? they are immigrants.

>>73835818
true, we never started wars, we only defended russia

>>73835728
Why don't albanians have to learn macedonian in Macedonia and that's ok then?

>>73834799
You are not a serb Look Albeinan muslim short shitskin scum whan we gona take kosovo with all our orthadox broders we will take it with killing all of you muslims scums all off you thet will have a problem with us will be shot to death you monky majmun if you have problem with us lets go out and fight scum any serb will beat you to death even in sports we hate you

Kosovo will be free from Albeinan blood soon mark my words just like krym it will be fast and with full force in the night killing americans in kosovo

Whan the balkan war will start this time serbs are not alone no more giving up we gona fight til death

We gona hit your fake shithole you call county so bad thet there will be no Albeinan man laft gona clean our kosovo from muslim blood and not a single tree or muslim man will be laft in the balkan after we will clean it Albenian scum there is no right for you to even talk the shit you góma see will be hall for you and your doggs

Kosovo is serbija soon mark my words soon

Agia sofia agia teos

>>73835728
>>73835855

>>73835878

>>73835855
People who were born in Estonia can't be immigrants.

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>>73835677
yea please dont help anyone ever again

>>73835878
why should I care about some balkan shitholes?

>>73835897
i hope this is pasta

>>73835462
> They can be happy they didn't got Beneš´d.


There is an opinion that if czechs didnt expel germans, they would live 2 times better now, on level of east german regions since germans were smartest part of czechia's population

>>73835840
Hungary and Czechoslovakia doesnt count it seems

>>73835926
worse they are occupants

they should thank every day to balts for the privilage that they can live there

>>73835933
CIA-controlled terrorists tried to start revolution in your country in 1956, we prevented that, that's why you don't live in an ISIS-tier state

You must buy some flowers RIGHT NOW and bring it to monument of red army soldiers

>>73835935
Because the EU which you are part of promotes such way in Macedonia while closing their eyes on the opposite situation in baltic countries.

>>73835963
funny thing is russians are the worst part of Estonian population

>>73836012
Occupant is a person who uses brutal force for spreading his regime's power. This is simply not a case.

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>>73831574
lol who cares

>>73836027
only because they lived in an apartheid state.

Estonian nazi state doesn't take them into hospitals, if you're non-estonian and you get sick, you will just die

>>73836073
so how would you call soviet army families?

>>73836092
i wish this was true desu

>>73836073
exactly, they are remnants of soviet occupation

>>73836162
baltic states joined voluntarily into soviet union

CIA-paid provocateurs were talking about occupation because that's what their american bosses told them to speak

>>73836018
huge minority of albanians were always living there

its their country

russians in baltics are occupants who refuse to learn new language and take new citizenship

they should be just expelled to mother russia

>>73836122
>>73836162
Soviet army left every baltic country 26 years ago. So did their families.

>>73836092
Good one Pavel, hit us with another one.

>>73836220
they lived there for centuries you liar

>>73836260
Sweden is a country with long traditions of eugenics and killing the "wrong" people, sure you will defend eSStonians

>>73836220
Russians lived in baltic region since Novgorod was created. And that happened more than 1000 years ago. You can't expell people from the land on which they were born. They simply has no other land as their own.

>>73836267
1897 census in Estonia: russians are 4% of the population

2016: 25%

sure Ivan

>>73831574
give examples of discrimination

>>73836307
I will not deny what we did, it's a true shame that the Estonians aren't following in our footsteps.

>>73836307
nothing wrong with eugenics, even tesla was a fan of it

>>73836360
>>73836319

>>73836393
you failed and they failed too

>>73836400
t. Srebrenica genocide apologist

>>73836391
They can't study in their language. Russian schools get closed.

>>73836477
they should integrate or gtfo to russia

>>73836360
First: it's 5, not 4.
Second: 5 is what called "they lived there". 5 =/= 0.

>>73836551
they are native people of baltic states

>>73836551
How can they go to a country they never been to and have no property or whatever else there? That's exactly what's called opression. You take something essential from people, you ignore their human rights on the land they were born on.

>>73836566
lets reduce hem to 5 again and than we can talk
>>73836577
they are not, they are occpants

its like if german nazi prisoners survived in Siberia and now have families and demand german schools

>>73836566
from 5k to 250k in 100 years with all the wars and purges
weird isnt it

>>73836637
their are fifth colums

>>73836642
>Let's
Why would we? That makes no sense, let's reduce czech independence to the point of 1897, that argument is just dumb

>>73836360
they had a lot of chlidren back then


>>73836642
one must be really stupid to compare nazists and communists

Communism made Eastern Europe flourish while nazis almost exterminated you

read this post
>>73835897
aloud with a thick Slavic accent and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocW3fBqPQkU

Wish I could vocaroo but mic is broken

>>73836709
and estonains not? the % should stay cca same

>Communism made Eastern Europe flourish

oh...so you are just troll

>>73836693
They would be absolutely loyal to local governments if were treated equally with estonians/latvians.
>>73836680
What purges? Do you know how percents work?

>>73836319
I was in the baltic i lived there from my Job and this peple are not 100% russians or slavs they are mixed with baltic finns scum fuck them let them die dont halp them lét them die there blood are not rus they are not full russian like me and you they are the one who killed our car nikolas

Us a ukrainian verkut I know i am immigrant right now but whan the real war will start the rus us europa i will be back to Help you to kill and nuke this doggs they are not even pepoel they need to be deleted from this world as fast as posibole

>>73836748
> and estonains not? the % should stay cca same

No, estonians drink a lot, their men die very fast

There is an old saying "To drink like estonian" which means you can drink very much alcohol

>>73835878
Don't compare two completely different circumstances

>>73836219
bait

>>73836251
No they didn't

>>73836267
No they didn't

>>73836319
That's ridiculous

>>73836477
That prevents integration

>>73836577
No they aren't

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>>73836811
russian life expectancy for males is 60yo

just kill yourself

>>73836835
Who said baltic countries should be ethnically homogenous? Especially when 1/4 of Estonia's population is not estonian. Integration is when someone arrives to a country and he learns its ways not when someone was already born there and just political agenda shifted.

this rustard is trolling you retards

>>73836881
that's because USA and EU pour acid gas in our air

they make us cough and die

we can do nothing

>>73836881
>I use outdated by 10 years stats
I thought Czech Rep. has good education.

>>73836220
>huge minority of albanians were always living there
Some? Sure. Huge? I don't think so. A lot of them were brought here by the Turks solely because of the fact that they were used as mercenaries to suppress any resistance against the Ottoman Empire. In WWII they were an Italian puppet state, that occupied the Western parts and another wave of cleaning came again. Tito who ruled Yugoslavia also didn't have any problem with Albanians fleeing their communist regime and settling here and on Kosovo because he dreamed of some far-fetched Balkan federation that was never to become reality.

It is almost the same thing that you accuse Russia of doing in the Baltics. But I don't see you advocate their cause.

>its their country
No it's not. Not because we don't allow them but because they explicitly hope to join Albania one day / pull another Kosovo. They behave exactly like the muslim immigrants in Western European countries nowadays.

>>73836919
welp when russians arrived 60 years ago to Estonia they really learned Estonaian way of life

your argument is retarded

its the same like with 3rd generation turks in germany

>>73836919
>Who said baltic countries should be ethnically homogeneous
Who is to say they shouldn't? Our nations are homogenous by default

>Integration is when someone arrives to a country and he learns its ways not when someone was already born there and just political agenda shifted.
Not really no, that's the first time I see such definition

>>73837065
60 years ago they just moved from one part of a country to another one unlike turks. Turkey and Germany never were one country.

Russians aren't people. You can't be nice towards them and be a force of good at the same time. Russians are the polar opposite of good.

>>73837132
Soviet Union and Lithuania wasn't one country

>>73837093
>Who said they shouldn't
Reality god dammit, they are simply not.

>>73837170
Wow, just wow. I guess you live in some parallel universe. RSFSR and Lithuania both were parts of one country-Soviet Union.

>>73837149
what makes you angry?

>>73837273
Teen edgieness.

>>73837132
they were moved by soviets to russificate baltics

they should be moved now back to russia

learn the language and be loyal to your country or btfo...its really that simple

>>73837171
They are

>>73837221
Soviet Union wasn't a country. It was a union of republics. There weren't Soviet Unionian people. You could not be a native Soviet Unionian because it wasn't a country. You could be Lithuanian, Russian, Kazakh and other nationalities. By your logic, Kazakh people are natives of Lithuania because they were one country. Your posts are all bull crap, Aleksey.

>>73837273
he is kinda right

russians are people, only really shitty one

>>73837306
they moved there because baltic people refused to work and chose to drink all day (there is an old saying "To drink like estonian")

>>73837367
we are good people, not the best in the world but definitely best in eastern-central Europe and in an Asia

>>73836839
No man why the fuck you think i am in isreal ???

I have a diploma in competers and grafika programiring games and softwors i can show you my apps and games in app store i am working here only i come here bcoZ i hate europa and america

I hate americans and europa and english

russia is not europa and its good dont over halp this gay scums and never go down to there level best putin

You need to stop salling your gas to germania and europa let them die it will be beter to sall it to asia and other countrys

Us a russian ukrainian i see Fuck europa death to europa and all of its pepoel

>>73837306
Descendants of these people can't be blammed for what soviet government (which collapsed long time ago) (not even russian btw) did decades ago.
>>73837354
>they are
>25% of estonian population are not ethnic estonians
>they are
How does your beain even work? Soviet Union was a country with its regional division. By that logic Texas and California are different countries.

In such situations it is possible to reach compromises and find political solutions, we did it and got our cultural autonomy, but that is only if both parties are willing to do so and don't completely hate each other's guts. If the water is too deep then the situation can only escalate.

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So I guess we all finally agree that Estonia is a genocidal nazi shithole?

>>73837499
>A union of states us the same as union of countries
No Boris, you should go back. To school. Texas and California are to America what Sakha and Chelyabinsk are to Russia. They are states of a nation. A union of countries is Commonwealth, as in UK, Australia and Canada. You need to learn your regional divisions.

BTW there weren't so many Russians in Estonia, if I have to be so obvious.

>>73837149
I have no problem with russians i have problem with your sisi weak fuck happy europian pepole with your fake smiles hipstarlook

I am alfa i am 100% russian blond tall strong evil never smile but i have a good big heart

So fuck you i am not even gona talk with you

Why the fuck if i come to trevel i need to say hi for you and evrey one and smile if i dont know you and dont give a fuck about you ?? Dont come to me i dont want to talk with but you mother fuckers are coming and talking with Stay with your peple and i Stay in my company
Evrey time i was in fucking istonia fucking baltic girls come to me start to ask my name and all of thet wtf i come to lift wights in the gym not talk fuck off from me suka bljat i dont wana talk with you

I am a big guy a body bilder btw 6ft7 i dont give a fuck about europian girls i love only russian girls mongolian girls ukrainian girls

Thet feel whan you can see in her face thet we both have thet look and thet russian talk and thet dne !!!!

Russia is the Best fuck europa Stay strong russia make more nukes kill muslims dont give nigers to come to your country kill gays and lesbians best russia god bless you

Dont be made on me russians I am just Your subhumen brother from ukriana kiev kill them all russia kill them all

Russian bros We need to kill this fag navolni we do you think is the beter guy to do this Job

1)chachan curka
2)ukrainian
3)russian

Who ???

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>>73838426
>I am alfa i am 100% russian blond tall strong evil never smile but i have a good big heart
>strong evil never smile
>but i have a good big heart

>>73831574
Russians should simply leave all Baltic states, they miss their beloved matushka-Russia so much, after all.

>>73838426
you need to let Jesus in your heart m8

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>>73837273
Russians.

Making Russians angry makes me feel good.

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>>73837149
>Russians are the polar opposite of good.
what makes your butt hurt so much?

>>73836219
this is what communists say in Greece non ironicaly.