Is there actually any good jpop, or is it all memes? All the normie stuff is painful to listen to. I was going to put this in /mu/, but they'd just meme me further.
>>73692745
>>>/jp/ is probably where you'd want to ask
i dont know much jpop but perfume is popular and decent. jap bands are pretty decent though.
>>73692745
Who is that in the down left?
>>73693814
matsui jurina
J-pop is very vast, idol pop is not the only thing that exists. Go listen a few albums by Sheena Ringo and come back with an opinion.
idolshit is shit and in the world of idols it's been clearly established that 2d >>>>>>>> 3d
>>73694007
This ladm8 has good advice.
>>73694444
Are you the guy into love live from KC?
>>73694570
No?
>>73694582
oh ok. Do you like Sheena Ringo?
>>73694595
Yep. Also Tokyo Jihen.
For a bit of diversity I would also suggest OP could check out Soutaisei Riron, Cornelius and The Pillows.
>>73694657
Nice. Despite how mainstream she's in japan is kinda strange how unknown she's in the west. Only in hipster circles you hear sometimes about "that crazy japanese teacup album". I guess the cultural gap is just too large.
>>73692745
I thought only kpop idols all looked the same.
>>73692745
Ling toshite shigure is nice
Same shit kpop just make anime
>>73692745
mostly utter shit unbearably bad. Ive never listened j-pop for a long time.
my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPH_HTVwOoQ
https://youtu.be/K_xTet06SUo
https://youtu.be/-dZgf_LUvbM
I don't know about jpop but...
Imperial Circus Dead Decadence is some nice ass J-Rock band yoooooooooooo
>>73694802
I liked Unravel
golden bomber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV9mBURLFKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJf1g9cvIqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvepe04Dbh4
>>73696306
Looks edgy asf
>>73696330
They actually don't(can't) play any instruments but has been in succeed recently
>>73692745
You might like Soil & "Pimp" Sessions or similar groups.
>>73692745
Mayumi Morinaga has some good stuff, not all of it is J-Pop but still pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JKv4wkllhE
Look for music in games from BEMANI, they have some of your typical cringy DDR music in games from the early 2000s (which is to be expected since they DID make DDR themselves). But newer games have some really good shit.
>>73692745
Vocaloid is King
Fuck J-pop
https://youtu.be/u0NIIZWrpmc
Perfume and anison.
Of course the normie stuff is cringy, what did you expect?
>>73696512
How does Vocaloid work? plz tell me
>>73696564
the emperor wills it so it just magically works
>>73696306
Why is visual kei looks so gay. They all look like characters from final fantasy.
It makes 80's glam rockers look straight
>>73694007
mah nigga, i really like Sheena Ringo, i think she does good music.
>>73696512
wtf, it isn't gratingly inhuman and badly aligned to instrumental, like they usually are. That's a surprise.
99% of idol pop is unbearable. They don't even attempt. They feature the cutest ones as the lead singers. It's pretty much just a front for all the gravure and cutesy entertainment. It's like a mafia laundering their money, making it society-worthy. Oh no I'm not masturbating to and falling in love with a pornstar, she's a singer!
They have real singers but they used to have a bigger regular music industry back in the day. There's a fuckton of good 80s j-pop, top of the line if you like the sound of the age. All of the vaporwave etc. crap of recent years borrows heavily from 80s j-pop because they had such good shit.
>>73698090
The golden age of jpop is 1990s actually. 1980s was full of idol shit, but most of them were single and diverse, unlike nowadays full of arr rook the same group shit.
Nakamori Akina is the best 1980s idol in my opinion.
https://youtu.be/awvk0cVFgmU
>>73698897
1990s was the age of the male idols. Same shit, different sex.
And it's pretty odd comparing someone like Akina Nakamori to modern idols. She's like Rihanna if anything (scouted, laid a lone singing career). A true "idol" perhaps, but not the kind we see today.
>>73692745
The Japanese entertainment industry is literally a human trafficking pipeline. If you think it's about the music, you're naive.
Idol groups are just a facet of pornography/prostitution.
>>73698090
Do you like Especia?
They're something of a throwback to that sound. Think crisp Yamaha DX sounds and house piano samples.
I don't recommend the latest album though.
>>73699040
>1990s was the age of the male idols
Absolutely wrong, 1990s was the recession of idol. Rock bands and Komuro family were in peak
>>73699672
Here's the 80s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_of_the_1980s_(Japan)
I'm not seeing any idols here either.
>>73692745
As long as you don't google translations, it's decent, yes.
>>73699808
Where as when I think of idols in the 90s...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KinKi_Kids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMAP
Johnny's Jr. was also apparently formed sometimes in the 1980s but information is hard to find. Nonetheless they bloomed in the 90s.
>>73699808
Singles chart is more representative.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oricon_number-one_singles_of_1985
>>73700090
The reason why smap succeeded is because of drama and variety show, not music
>>73700361
Well they sure had plenty of number one singles like you hypothesized as the measure for success.
>>73699044
Those doujins of love live and idolmaster don't lie
>>73697254
It might look gayish for you but we don't see them as gayish
>>73700850
number one singles is the sign of their success but it doesn't mean their song made them popular.
Why jpop choreography looks like kindergarten party, but kpop idols are so synced, they resemble some kind of advanced robots?
Yea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upODO6OuOOk
I just listen to whatever I like that I come across in anime.
>>73692745
>>73694871
What about male j-pop idols?
>>73692745
The point of jpop is that the audience consists of thirsty losers who want to fuck the girls but since they can't they obsessively purchase merchandise and go to their concerts. If you're listening to the music you're retarded.
these topics always go the same way with the same exact recommendations as if they're above it that are guilty of the same shit lmao
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=byvta9LHo2o
Lads
>>73705992
oh
>>73698039
>>73696512
That isn't Vocaloid, though. That's yanagi nagi's cover.
The original by supercell is Vocaloid, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u7FTSfCcmg
And then there's the fact that yanagi nagi was the singer of supercell's second album, Today is a Beautiful Day. Which brings me to:
>>73692745
supercell. Especially Zigaexperientia. Has been literally my favorite album for the last three years and I don't care if you call me a faggot for it.
>>73706299
Youtube Red. We have a shitload of Japanese music videos blocked because of it.