So how does /int/ feel about Americans who identify by their

it does when they are entirely non-majority or born in a different country

imagine filipino-american
why is that inaccurate? his experience is certainly not just american

>>73569989
I find it embarassing and I feel isulted by the "cultural appropiation" of "German"-Americans. For me its a sheer mockery

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>>73569989
Americans are Americans
saying they're "German" or "Italian" or "Swedish" is fucking retarded
Like what if an actual German comes to you? Do you just say "oh I'm German too :DD" that's fucking retarded
you're Americans and that's it

>>73570137
>Americans are Americans
That just isn't physically, historically, nor demographically correct.

it makes sense and is appropriate if you're a first or second generation immigrant. as in, if you or your parents were born in, say, germany.

but if your family's been living in the 'states for 200 years and you still go on about 'muh heritage' it's just sad. if american english is the only language your parents spoke and you've never left tennessee or ohio then no, you are not german-american or filipino-american or anything. you're just an american, maybe with a caucasian or east asian ancestry.
take the 'black' people of america for example: most of them are more white or latino than west african at this point. we wuz kangs is total bullshit and the muh heritage thing some of the white americans have going on is no different.

>>73570118
You realize there was huge amounts of german speaking, german acting populations in the american mid west until you went autistic in WWI

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>>73570178
(American as in Unitedstatesian but nobody says that)
no, that's exactly what you are and what the rest of the world thinks of you
You're American
You're not Swedish, Norwegian, German, Irish. Go to any of those countries and you will not be treated as anything else other than an American. Because that's all you are, an American. You were born and raised and lived all your life in your America, you're an American.
Before you start whining about the differences between states or demographs every single country has regional variation as well. Variaton that is far bigger than in the US since we actually have thousands of years of history between regions. Spanish people say they're Spanish and not Basque, Fennoswedes say they're Finnish etc. etc.
Americans are Americans and nothing more

>>73570261
They arent german anymore. Stop pretending to be something you arent. We dont see you as German

>inb4 but m-muh german blood D:

>>73570118
>>73570137

This

>>73570178
No, your society is just fucking retarded, and your stupid identity politics don't mean anything outside of your borders.

>>73569989
>DFC
>pointy tits
mah dick

>>73570303
I definitely agree, but "muh appropriation" is simply inaccurate

>>73569989
olive oil + balsamic vinegar

>>73570297
The type of "American" you're speaking of simply doesn't exist because no demographic or ethnic group (except maybe for the natives) has any way to claim such. The amount of people living and born here is too varied and vast for "American" to be an actual thing aside from nationality. It just isn't possible (yet). :/

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>"I'm like 1/4 German, 1/8 French, 1/8 Romanian and 1/2 Irish! Haha, wrap your head around that, haha!"

>>73570359
I couldn't finish that webm. I'm going to vomit.

>>73569989
>muh genetics and ancestry
Nigga from video related is 100% polish man, despite the fact his parents were born in diferent country. He was born in Poland, grew up in polish culture and speaks perfect polish. He is 100 times more true pole than an american who's parents left Poland and go to USA and he "identify" himself as pole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVqe2AKHpcc

>>73570405
But he's not ethnically a Pole, though.

>>73570427
like that means anything in this time and age anyway

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>>73570355
>The amount of people living and born here is too varied and vast for "American" to be an actual thing aside from nationality
Nationality is all you are though. I already told you the regional variation in other countries exists as well and is even bigger than in the US and yet you still use that as an excuse.
India probably has the most diversity in the world yet they're still all Indian, call themselves and identify as Indians. Same thing with the Chinese and Russians
It's only the US that is so fucking retarded with this concept. You're all Americans, you have zero relation to the country your ancestors came from hunders of years ago
It's honestly a bit insulting to, for example, claim you're "Finnish" when you know nothing about Finnish culture, people, history etc.

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>"Oh my god, yeah, you can definitely tell that my family is of German ancestry. We all love beer, we eat sausage and make Krauskefarben like our Oma, haha! I even speak some German: Wiiehlst du miiisch kuss-en? That means 'do you wanna kiss me', haha!"

>>73570405
>Nigga from video related is 100% polish man
>despite the fact his parents were born in diferent country
Contradiction.

>He was born in Poland, grew up in polish culture and speaks perfect polish.
So he's culturally Polish. But not actually Polish.

>>73569989
your homeland is where your genetic roots are, not where you were born

>>73570459
>Nationality is all you are though.
But there's no ethnic or ancestral Americans (except natives).

>I already told you the regional variation in other countries exists
Regions, yes. But they still belong under the same family and ancestry. Natural born Americans aren't capable of that.

>is even bigger than in the US and yet you still use that as an excuse.
Then those countries wouldn't count.

>>73569989
embarassing, then again no one claims Belgian ancestry so I don't really care

>>73570297
>>73570459
The guy's babyface is really throwing me off.

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>>73570427
He can talk with an ethnic pole in polish without any problems and he is fully ingrained in polish society in culture. And culture is more than just language and food.

Identifying as Russian will get you lynched in America, so I don't care. I don't understand what is wrong with identifying as simply American, though.

>>73570427
>But he's not ethnically a Pole
There is nothing like pure polish. Poland used to be multicultural superpower for several centuries and since fucking middle ages to nowadays we use law of war in case of nationality

>>73570555
But he's still not an ancestral or ethnic Pole. So identifying as one doesn't make much sense outside of national and cultural contexts.

>>73570587
>There is nothing like pure polish.
But you still have distinct Polish ancestry and ethnicity embedded in you.

>>73569989
It's pretty stupid when they can't speak the language, can't even pronounce their surname properly and they know nothing about the homeland of their ancestors other than a few bits of information. And let's not forget that most are more mixed than a bag of mixed nuts.

>>73570515
He's saying you are solely part of the American nationality since there is no American ethnicity.

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>>73570137
THIS
>>73569989
Calling yourself another nationality (''''''''''''''''''''''''''''ethnicity'''''''''''''''''''''''''''') when you weren't born and have never ever been there is retarded.
We give a fuck if you're brown, white, yellow or black, or that 200 generations ago your family came from other continent, you're a fucking American and that's it!1!1!1!11!!11!!

>>73570570
>Poland 1050 recorded history
>Russia even more if counting Kievan Rus'
>Own languages
>Own we wuz may mays

>America 2017 - 1776 = 240
>Language of former ruler
>no unique culture

Now you understand? What does it even mean that someone is american?

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I think the issue arises from a linguistic mixing of the cultural and ethnic notion of German.
Some people will claim that you're not German if you're culturally German but ethnically not. Same for being ethnically German but culturally something else.
In the end it's easier to specify what kind of German you mean than to have this autistic discussion every day.

>>73570604
He lives his entire life in Poland and identify himself as Pole. He is equally polish to me. Genetics don't matter.

>>73570668

All Slavs come from Serbs
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg79R5jopj8

>>73569989
please tell me you have her nude....
p-please

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>>73570696
>tfw american
>tfw family of german immigrants from two-hundred years ago
>tfw family still practiced german culture and traditions
>tfw speak german since childhood
>tfw have traits only people from germany click with, but americans find strange
>tfw still don't count apparently

Then again, we're ethnic Bavarian, so maybe it's best not to be associated.

>>73570705
Yeah, but he's still not ethically nor ancestrally Polish. Which is what Americans used to identify themselves: ancestry, ethnicity, or race -- since there are no American versions of those unless you're red skinned. He's only culturally and nationally Polish, which is something simply not possible in North America right now.

>>73570650
Such butthurt, looks like someone got deported.

>>73570752
she's a pornstar lmao

>>73570801
Yes it is, in fact you can only be an American by culture (>>>) and nationality, but not ethnicity.

>>73570884
There's no American culture here because there are too many here that conflict with another (which keeps making the news in the 2010s).

>but not ethnicity
Which is what Americans use to identify by.

>>73570756
>Bavarian
literally Serbs in denial, not even shitposting

>>73570668
That's cool and all, but these days Americans have a distinct identity and culture. One that they are very proud of. So I don't get where these 'muh heritage' people come from.

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>>73570838
stfu little Russia

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>>73570940
>serbs
explain

>>73571001
>What is white Serbia?

>>73570427
Ethnicity means fuck all. It's the culture that matters.

>>73571118
And the race/ethnicity belonging to that culture. Culture is just the predictions and habits of that ethnic group. That's what it means to have culture.

>>73571181
Culture is more than that see>>73570555


I think ethnicity or genrtics arent even listed there

>>73571181
>I am American: the post
that makes absolutely no sense. A person born in Finland is not Finnish if their ancestors haven't lived here for +200 years? A dude with dark skin will never be Polish even if he was born and raised there?

ethnicity has no relation to culture at all.

>>73571237
Yeah, and it's an overbloated and inaccurate explanation. A culture is just a series characteristics and predictable features exhibited by a distinct group of people. Whether we're talking ethnicity, ancestry, nationality, history, gender, subgroups, demographics, &c. If it's a regular thing associated with a group of people, that's culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84LnTrQ2us8

>>73571320
>A person born in Finland is not Finnish if their ancestors haven't lived here for +200 years? A dude with dark skin will never be Polish even if he was born and raised there?
Not ethnically.

>ethnicity has no relation to culture at all.
Ethnicity is one of the main defining dimensions of a culture. Most cultures are bound together through their ethnic heritage.

>>73571320
That's how it usually works, though.

Who gives a fuck?

Obviously your Nationality comes first but that doesn't mean your ethnic heritage means nothing

>>73569989
I can understand if they're fairly recent immigrants, otherwise it seems silly to hyphenate unless they're "ethnic"

>>73571408
but your ethnicity or skin color doesn't in any way determine the way you act or think or speak, which is pretty much all culture is.

>Most cultures are bound together through their ethnic heritage
yeah, but that's only statistics. geographical coincidence. these things change constantly, even if slowly

>>73571422
does it? I know many Finns who were born abroad or had foreign parents but I've never met a Finn who was raised in or lived for decades in another country

>>73571560
>I know many Finns who were born abroad or had foreign parents
It's just assimilated immigrants

>but I've never met a Finn who was raised in or lived for decades in another country
There are no Finns in Sweden or in immigrant communities worldwide?

>>73571560
>but your ethnicity or skin color doesn't in any way determine the way you act or think or speak, which is pretty much all culture is.
Aside from mild genetic influences, ethnicity doesn't determine behavior. But cultures are still connected by the ethnicity they inherit. It's historical coincidence, but it's still prevalent enough to continue and create social norms and characteristics distinct or associative to that ethnicity and regional natives.

>yeah, but that's only statistics. geographical coincidence. these things change constantly, even if slowly
But many things still remain the same. Many traditions still keep running that are seldom found in other cultures and ethnic groups. And many habits and characteristics still pop either repeatedly or within what you can normally expect from that group.

>>73569989
>what dressing should I put on my salad?
Some veggie oil.

>>73569989
>So how does /int/ feel about Americans
Gas them all to be honest

>>73569989
It would irritate me less if you weren't just doing what ever was fashionable.

In the 60s and 70s a good chunk of your muh heritage was for England, but that fell out of fashion and you stopped. It loses any sort of integrity it might of have when you think your entire gene pool can change over a few years.

>>73569989
I fucking hate them and they should be shot for being so ignorant as to identify with a culture that they have never truly experienced.

>>73571612
I have some relatives who have moved abroad years ago. one moved to america in his teens maybe 30 years ago. He still speaks good Finnish and knows the culture and all but I still don't consider him "one of us". He acts like an american, his mannerisms and way of speech is american, he dresses like an american...

and on the other hand many of the kids i went to school with had immigrant roots. but all of them acted and seemed like nothing but Finns. To me they were all more Finnish than that relative of mine who now lives in america. I honestly can't see how anyone could disagree.


>>73571704
but doesn't that mean that a person born in American could never be a true German or Irish or Japanese or whatever? they don't share the traditions or the homogenous ethnicity of the people around them. Americans can't be anything but Americans is what you're saying, no?

Think it's pretty stupid and you sound like the living embodiment of the "Muh Ancestors" meme.

If you can actually speak german, and live a german type lifestyle and only max 3rd generation sure, but other than that. No, you're American.

>>73569989
>tfw Dutch-Canadian
>both parents moved to Canada in the 1970s
>spent summers in NL
>routinely go there to see family
>have strong cultural ties
>speak fluent Dutch as well as English
>have 100% Dutch background for at least 200 years
>come on /int/
>get mocked for having some association with my heritage

Fuck you guys

>>73569989
whannnhh whannann

hey uhm

hey uhm

uh int can I be uropean?

>>73571754
its all about the 'oppressed' cultures nowadays, hence why the Irish aren't treat like shit and people leap through hoops to claim any sort of green blood, even if they're surname is Cromwell. Same for the scottish, or 'scaddish'.
case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw

>>73569989
Depends.

If the people have maintained the culture of their ancestors, then they have a perfectly natural right to claim their ancestral heritage. I'm 60% Irish myself and don't really give a shit about my heritage, but my mom and her entire half of the family are 100% Irish, her father still has the fucking accent even. They're fucking Irish.

A better question would be to ask "When does someone lose their ancestral heritage and when do they assimilate into their local heritage?"

It's not when they get off the plane. You're still Irish when you step off the plane. You're still Irish when you buy a house. You're still Irish when you fuck someone and have a kid. And if you raise that kid Irish, which is what you are, why the fuck shouldn't the kid be able to identify himself as such?

And now that I've actually gotten the logic portion out of the way, let me a go a little farther and say this: You yuropoors are a bunch of complete fucking pussies, the only reason you even care in the first place is that you're insecure babies about big daddy America being so much better than you in every way that you feel compelled to whine and bitch about it. Practically the same tier as the worst of the SJW that won't stop bitching uselessly about cultural appropriation.

Why don't you just suck it up and be proud that some of us even still give a fuck about you.

>>73571808
>Americans can't be anything but Americans is what you're saying, no?
No because "American" isn't a thing since there's no group distinct group to take that mantle and define the entire country with. Maybe as a nationality, but not as an ethnicity as in other European countries. And people in American identify through ethnicity, not nationality. Simply because there's no American ethnicity possible for the next hundreds of years.

>>73569989
It's silly, and all it does is polarize the population further. You're not a melting pot, you're like water and oil, not mixing.

In Australia you're Australian approx. two hours after you've moved in.

>>73571853
there's a difference you fucking retard, they're talking about new world mutts who don't even speak the language or have the culture of the country they're claiming heritage from

>>73571923
Its different when you're supposedly "white" and you know your family has only been here long enough to turn from wheat farmers into masters of faggots like you.

>>73569989

/int/ is fond of Civic Nationalism.

To them a German is Ahmed Turkoglu the Kebab salesman from Munich

>>73570303
>>inb4 but m-muh german blood D:

Isn't that a quote from your Fuhrer?

>>73571875
But Europeans don't identify themselves with ethnicity, maybe with the exception of a small vocal minority you'll find browsing /pol/. It's the culture that matters: the way one acts and speaks and so on. And Americans already have a strong culture of their own. There's the small talk thing for one that's very American. Just compare American television with British, there's a difference.

I just don't see how ethnicity (skin color, genealogy, ancestry, so on) have anything to do with this.

>>73570405
>an american who's parents left Poland and go to USA and he "identify" himself as pole.

But isn't the american-born pole who identifies as Pole, also culturally polish?

>>73571967
Firstly, fuck int.

You're all sandniggers, gooks, bitches, skanks, niggers, etc until you prove otherwise.

A German is something that according to Amerifaggots, gassed jews, killed russian peasants, etc I lost interest.

>>73571967
If he identifies as German and speaks German flawlessly then sure.
But most Turks don't.

>>73570303
The reason you don't see us as German is the same reason we don't see you as human.

>>73572095

Most turks are born in Germany though. So they're german according to your retarded standards.

Hitler would have gassed you

>>73572114
you just see them as food

>>73572095
>If he identifies as German and speaks German flawlessly then sure.

Germany has dialects that are not intelligible with standard german, so are they not germans either?

Heil Hitler mother fucker

>>73572130
Well you did bomb the shit out of Hamburg.

>>73572161
hitler would've gassed new world fucks like you, you're not german at all

Cry a river before you respon.d

>>73571853
do you live in the hamilton region?

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>>73571987
You know that we have a "joke"(probably reality) here that says that americans are so retarded and ignorant about anything outside their state that they believe that hitler is still alive and kicking? It doesnt seem really that off the more I interact with americans.

>>73572201

Hitler decorated Henry Ford with the Grand Cross of the German eagle

It is irrelevant

If I can see you are white then I know you are ethnically European. Whether the country was England or France or Russia or whatever is IRRELEVANT

>>73572174
Shit banter, work on it

>>73572259

Dude Hitler was the only bright spot in your cringe-worthy history.

>>73572319
How would you know? You don't know anything about history outside your own little pond.

>>73572319
>writes like a redditor
>speaks like a /pol/tard
Yep, you're a mutt.

>>73572284
only to a non-European

>>73572365
>How would you know? You don't know anything about history outside your own little pond.

Are you implying that America isn't the world's dominant super power and that you're not speaking english right now and enjoying American technologies because you don't suck America's dick?

>>73570668
>>73570960
It's different than that. Old American families are those that can trace their lineage back to the Mayflower or Jamestown, 400 years. But most whites had most ancestors arrive after 1865. So it's like there are tiers of Americanness depending upon arrival time. I have relatives who arrived in the US post WWII. Simply put, they don't identify with WASP culture.

There are unique cultures within America but not everyone is part of everything.

>>73571808
There are Slovenes in Argentina who speak Slovene at home and have their own organisations and they have been in the country in some cases for a hundred years. Some have returned in the last few decades.
Some immigrant who assimilates is a bright spot among the half-literate scum but that doesn't make him one of us.

>>73572430
What has this to do with what he said?

Haha, the Americans (or should I say German-Irish-Americans) are getting mad because they can't handle the truth that they will NEVER be anything more than simply Americans. I don't understand why they're so upset about it though, being American should be something to be proud of tbqh.

>>73572497
Why do only americans do that? You dont really see the same with canadians or australians here.

>>73571853
You're Canadian with Dutch relatives, how is this so difficult to understand. I don't call myself Irish because I have family in Ireland

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>>73572130

>>73572552
Although we have arguably less culture than Americans, I think the Australian identity is stronger. The majority of us have ancestry primarily from the British Isles and we've only been around since the late 1700s/early 1800s. We're also much less regionally and culturally divided; in the US you have the North-South divide among others, whereas we have no divisions. All these factors make it much easier for us to accept and be happy with identifying as "Australians". I can't speak for Canada though, but outside of Quebec wewuzing, I'm guessing they're pretty similar.

>>73572430
English is from England and I was talking about your lack of knowledge. (and now also your lack of reading skills).
>>73572492
Pay it no heed, it's a knee-jerk reaction to criticism.

>>73569989
It's probably kind of stupid to identify by any nationality other than your current and past living nationalities.

I mean, if you trace your ancestry back far enough you will find that all of humanity traces back to some common ancestor so you are some part every nationality that existed from that time that one person was alive.

Amusingly this means that ever right-winger and /pol/tard is part nigger whether they like it or not. Maybe that's why they'd prefer to teach religion over biology?

>>73572733
Also I just want to add that those regional divisions in America don't give any legitimacy to the whole "Americans identifying as non-American ethnicities" thing. If anything, they imply that Americans should identify themselves based on their cultural region, e.g. maybe "New Yorkers" or "Texans". These divisions are not based at all on their """heritage""", so using regional divisions as justification for calling themselves "Germans" or "Irish" as opposed to a Pan-American identity is moronic.

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>>73572552
It's part of how we look at ourselves.

>>73572426
Well yeah that's what we are talking about

>>73572866
I think they mean Percent """"German""""

Most of those people do not speak German. They were not born in Germany. Their parents and grandparents were not born in Germany. They are not culturally German (see >>73570555). They aren't even """pure""" German genetically, probably being part British or Irish. They are not German.

A lot of the "old stock" Americans, whose families have been in the country since before its founding, have only begun referring to themselves solely as Americans (rather than as English Americans) within the past 30 years or so.

It's all just a process of assimilation. The "German" Americans don't cause any problems, and eventually they'll start referring to themselves just as Americans, the way people of English ancestry have.

>>73572866
You also have those White [ ] Black [ ] Spic [ ] Asian [ ] Other [ ] questionnaires.
It's a very strange concept for Europeans.

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>>73572979
>Most of those people do not speak German.
True
>They were not born in Germany.
True
>Their parents and grandparents were not born in Germany.
I actually know a few people whose grandparents were born in Germany after WWII.
>They are not culturally German
True
>They aren't even """pure""" German genetically, probably being part British or Irish.
Most sure
>They are not German.
They like to call themselves German-Americans

>>73573089
Of course it is. The United States is little more than the world's largest colonial society. The only state in Europe with any resemblance in terms of ethnic organization was the old Russian Empire.

>>73573226
Russian Empire never colonized Europe, it just conquered some parts of it.

>>73573345
You aren't understanding what I am talking about. Both were societies organized around rough ethnic/cultural boundaries.

Old Russia
>Russians
>White Russians
>Ukranians
>German settlers
>Baltics
>Tatars
>Turks
>etc.

USA
>Anglos
>Scots-Irish
>Irish
>Germans
>Southern Europeans
>Hispanics
>Indians
>Africans
>etc.

>>73572782
>English is from England

Current American dominance is the reason you're an Anglophile today. Accept it and move on.

>>73572823
Blood =/ nationality

>>73570118
This so much. I'm from Ghana, but I identify as German

>>73569989
You're a unitedstatian, you weren't born in germany or ireland or otaly therefore you can't possibly be german or irish or italian just because your grandpa came from there when he was 15.

You're the only country in the world that does this, everyone here is descendant of inmigrants yet everyone thinks of themselves as Uruguayan, not italo-uruguayan or french-uruguayan or portuguese-uruguayan or english-uruguayan or irish-uruguayan. If a spaniard comes here he won't be treated bad but he won't be considered a native either, the same goes for all the nationalities above.

>>73573998
>You're a unitedstatian

Yes, please tell me about my country.

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>>73574108
You were born here in pic related, you're not german because you have 1/8 german blood and 1/4 Irish blood along with 1/32 italian blood.

You're just another burger crying about muh heritage because you really fucking want to be european since it's cool.

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>>73569989

Most of those posting under the US flag on /int/, are self-hating whites and millennial progressives of the following type:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2R2btO4MEo

They desire the transformation of the United States into a non-white country, and are actively leading the charge to turn it more diverse and multicultural, while marginalizing the white males and reducing their social and economic power. They are all multiculturalists, progressives, race mixers, supporters of homosexuality and trans rights, and Islamic apologists.

Every American aged 20-35, can be considered a progressive.

It depends. I'm half Polish ethnically but I would never call myself Anglo-Polish or anything like that because I have almost no understanding of Polish culture. I think its lame when Americans pretend to be a certain nationality when they done participate in the culture and have less than 50% ethnicity.

>>73571853
> white people get butthurt when associated with their current residence rather than their homeland
> brown people get butthurt when associates with their homeland rather than their current residence
woah really makes me think

>>73571847
> german type lifestyle
Doesn't really exist since the 1970s.

>>73572462
And? There are families that can do the same in many countries. A lot of people in England can trace their families back to Ireland or old British colonies. There are French people who can identify German or Spanish ancestors. What about multilingual nations like Belgium or Switzerland? Or Singapore and India?

>>73569989
I think it's nice. I would do the same.

>>73574444
>You were born here in pic related
Yes
>you're not german
Yes
>1/32 italian blood
1/2 Italian blood. That dosen't make me Italian. But it does mean that half my ancestors came over from Italy. I identify culturally with the descendants of other people whose Italian ancestors arrived in America around the year 1900. That dosen't mean I don't identify as an American. Hence the phrase Italian-American. This group comprises over 10 million other people. For reference your country has a population under 3.5 million. So it should be expected that our situations are different.

>>73575864
What about the other 50% of your ancestry? I guess you just ignore it because it's less interesting or cool than Italian?

>>73576021
It's more complex and harder to explain to other Americans. The quick answer is 1/4 Portuguese, 1/4 Chinese.

>>73569989
Isn't the whole point of America to be one big melting pot of cultures?

Anyway, I have Italian ancestry but I don't identify as Italian-American, I identify as American. Pennsylvanian if you really want to get specific.

I'm sure for some people having that idea of heritage is important to their sense of identity, and if you're a first or second generation immigrant, it's also gonna be a lot bigger of a deal, because you/your parents are naturally going to hold on to a lot of aspects from their own culture. There's also lots of places in America that are dominated by certain settlers or ethnic groups (Pennsylvania Dutch here, Scandinavians out Midwest, Hispanics all across the Southwest) and naturally they group together and maintain more of that cultural identity.

People who try to blend in to a foreign culture they have nothing to do with are jackasses, but I kind of feel bad for them. Their sense of identity is so utterly lacking they have to describe themselves by what they are and what their parents were rather than *who* they are and what they do.

That being said, I think most hyphen-Americans identify as American first, and simply hold on to a few (if any) observances or practices from whatever culture/ethnicity they're hyphenating.

>>73576186
You must look weird.

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>>73570359
I'm 2/3 God, 1/3 Man.

>>73570570
>Identifying as Russian will get you lynched in America

Total bullshit.

>>73576258
Not really. I'd say my head is maybe a little bit wider than normal for an Italian or Portuguese, but the difference is not noticeable.

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Americans will never be european. Idgaf if the friend of your great grandfather was once in germany.

>>73576560

Do you have asian eyes? Who was the promiscuous one? Your granny or. Grandpa?

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>>73569989
Americans are not, in any way, shape or form, what their heritage is. Genetics don't work like that.

>hurr durr I'm 1/4th German and 2/6 Irish and 1/16th Cherokee etc
No. You're not. When you're mixed, you don't retain such genetics. They're mixed. They are not isolated parts of your biology of phenotype. It's all mixed.
Your ancestors may have been all sorts of European, but you are not.

The American racial melting pot is the absolute worst. The entirety of the concept of ethnicity is completely wiped out once you're mixed into that shit. There are no racial, cultural, lingual, socially conventional and historical connections between you and your heritage at that point, and thus, you are not part of your heritage nation anymore.

And regarding the 'American identity', well, it already exists and are widely practised by you lot, so I don't see why you would feel the need to believe yourself to be something else when you clearly aren't. I know most burgers are pretty dumb and disrespectful to non-american civilizations because they do not know anything of it, but >muh heritage burgers surely always manage to take the fucking cake.

>>73569989
i see nips

>>73569989
thats a pretty woman

Are there any "Dutch" (Netherlandish, not German) Americans? And do they consider themselves Dutch if they exist?

>>73571853
You could try getting a Dutch passport if you want to. At least both of your parents are Dutch, so it may be possible.

>>73582022
Okay, but do you believe that in any case? Using a hypothetical, someone who's a mix of Southern and Eastern European living in the UK. Is it inaccurate to say that they are of those ancestries? While your phenotype is a blend of numerous factors, you still inherit specific genes from those distinct populations, though granted there is a ton of overlap throughout different regions of Europe. Plus, these ethnic groups significantly influence the culture of their new country. They bring with them dishes and traditions from their home countries and even influence the local language to some degree.

The name of my province is Latin for "New Scotland." Scots are the largest ethic group here. They held on to aspects of their culture such as traditional dress and music, and some even still speak Gaelic. There's also a lot of German and Dutch ancestry here, and it's apparent in many of the place and street names we have here such as Gottingen St, Dutch Village Rd, and Lunenburg. Some pockets even still speak Low German, though most German and Dutch immigrants adopted English when they settled here.