Name one redeemable quality in the dutch language
Pro tip: you can't
It's actually a nice language.
Except G. That's a no-no. Sorry.
>>73376472
Dutch women sound cute
>>73376527
I like the g
>>73376588
>I like the g
You like the "I'm gonna about to spit" sound?
>>73376472
It is a lot simpler than German for example since they dropped the cases long time ago.
1. It's not as gay as Swedish.
>>73376472
It's literally just German for retards
>>73376649
yes, like choking a cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgiDZvYZyMQ
>>73376690
Isn't German German for retards?
>>73376671
fpbp
>>73376723
Moet dat nou.
>>73376741
As far as complexity, it is the English that is for retards.
>>73376741
>That blue
Why did you bleach your flag, Netherlands?
Well the biggest "redeemable quality" as you so unintelligently ask for I'd say would be the fact that Dutch nowadays lacks grammatical cases, unlike German.
Grammatical cases are a remnant of the past and any language that still has it should immediately phase it out.
>>73377300
That disregard for the Grand Duchy
>>73376723
It's scary how comprehensible the dutch language is for Germans... I didn't look at the translations or even the dutch words at the bottom and was able to understand almost all of it.
>>73377488
Same here. German is much easier for us to learn than French for instance.
>>73377465
It is a rare flag, so I thought it was Netherlands with a weird shade of blue.
>>73376723
Why the fuck do they read a "G" like an "R".
>>73376723
>That accent
Enschede is literally the Amsterdam of the east
>A Swede making fun of Dutch
Swedish is about as ugly as Dutch and Danish.
>hünke münke dönke lünke
>>73376649
A Dutch friend of mine lectured me on their abhorrent "G". Apparently the south doesn't use the gargling one, they use a softer, more pleasant version.
>>73376723
why the fuck are all of them so ugly
>>73381593
Swedish is a beautiful language, and many people will agree
>>73381627
Correct.
Pink - Harsh and gutteral. Standard Dutch in the Netherlands.
Green - Soft and smooth. Standard Dutch in Belgium.
Purple - Actually a "H". Dialectal in Zealand and West-Flanders.
Orange - English "G" (as in "good"); Standard in Frisian and dialectal to Dutch in Frisia.
Blue - Sounds like the English "Y" in Yoyo.
The brown areas in the heart of the Netherlands are Flevoland and the Wieringermeer, Polders with no native dialects. They tend to use the harsh, gutteral g.
>>73383169
That's what amazes me about Europe. You are such a small country yet you have considerable differences in pronunciation that are somehow maintained since the medieval times despite the influence of TV etc. I mean why would people speak differently within an hour drive from each other? Why didn't these sounds merge in a single neutral sound??
>>73376723
Please don't do this
>>73381738
These are literal plebs, people in Amsterdam look much better
>>73386148
It's a pretty good video tho. I feel that your language is very easy to learn for someone that already speak english (words and structure), but the pronunciation makes it hard to understand
>>73385832
Honestly I wonder about that too sometimes. We have hundreds of different dialects here, some are like a whole different language.
A person from Utrecht will have a really hard time understanding someone speaking Maastrichts.
>>73376472
The fact that's halfway between English and German is really convenient desu.
Dhdh
>>73385832
>Europe. You are such a small country
kys
>>73391260
Fuck off you edgy sperg. I meant Europe in general and your cunt as an example.
>>73376472
literally nothing
>>73376723
>Wat is u naam
>What is your name
why the fuck is dutch a language
Flemish sounds cute
>>73391767
Flemish soundst like a fat dutchman choking on his french fries
>>73391654
That's cherrypicking.
Probeer dit maar eens te begrijpen, kanker flikker.
>>73386148
because more than half of the population of amsterdam isnt dutch
not even memeing
>>73392201
from the vid right after that
>Mijn naam is
>Wat is dit
>Waar is het
>hier/daar
>Dit is een
dumb kankercloggnigger
>>73392271
London is also 42% foreigner and London has a way bigger population than Amsterdam, so stop chatting shit.
If you're in the right neigbourhood, Amsterdam is beautiful.
>>73392345
That's literally the most basic things, German is exactly the same.
Mein Name ist Hans.
Mijn naam is Hans.
My name is Hans.
It's because we're Germanic languages, eternal anglo.
>>73392488
a common mistake, we're actually romance
>>73392345
Versta je dit ook? Want dit is ook gewoon basis Nederlands.
>>73392519
You still use an awful amount if Germanic words.
>>73386148
>>73392519
Romanced german*
>>73385832
Because Dutch evolved from many regional languages (and even city languages).
It has been becoming more as one for centuries now. But we still have some huge regional languages. While the city languages have become dialects.
>>73392271
White flight. White people move to the villages next to it.
>>73392519
>English
>Romance
Nice grammatical genders m8.
>>73392866
Now watch him post the meme pie chart.
>>73385832
its pretty amazing, but whats even stranger is that until even relatively recently there was even more of a difference in pronunciation but tv/radio and urbanisation has leveled the dialects a lot so they sound more homogenous
it used to be, in a lot of places, that you could tell the town/village a person came from from their accent if you knew it well enough
if you go from town to town from brussels to sicily, or from brussels to lisbon, or amsterdam to vienna, or prague to vladivostok each adjacent town will still be able to understand each other, there are no language borders just shades of difference in these languages but as the standard language is spread by mass media this is erroded
you might even still be able to go from tromso to vienna and have this idk, you can still tell some swedish villages apart by thier accents
>>73392759
People from different regions sometimes also look different.
>>73392971
I'm still baffled that some people think that about English, really. English is neither Germanic nor Romance imho.
also how do I properly pronounce an "r" at the beginning of a word in Dutch
Hulp mij
>>73385832
because only Americans care about speaking "neutrally" and many countries don't even have such a concept.
>>73392971
>but muh latin
>>73392519
You have the best of both germanic and romance grammar tbf.
>>73392973
>it used to be, in a lot of places, that you could tell the town/village a person came from from their accent if you knew it well enough
Thats still the case here with most major cities (plus some minor ones from Holland).
I think perhaps 20% speaks with a neutral accent.
So even speaking with a neutral accent betrays that you come from a small village from the western province north holland or utrecht.
>>73376527
>>73376723
>>73381627
Yes south of the Rhine and in Flanders people speak with a soft G. Flemish Dutch is just better.
See for yourself and compare, the guy is Dutch, the girl Flemish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JM79Z29oZ8&t=70s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgwEYZKTgLw&t=140s
>>73392413
amsterdam is lovely im not being a dick its just true, id its mainly because there are a lot of eu citizens living there
>>73393079
I don't know, I think it's callexd a "rolling r" or something.
>>73393100
>>73393325
I know what a rolling "r" is but I've heard like 4 different pronunciations (of which only one was an actually rolled "r")
>>73393079
That stereotypical r is just for some parts of the Netherlands. In other parts people just speak with a rolling r like in Spanish or with a guttural r like in French or German
>>73393086
What do you mean "care"? Nobody does that intentionally. Unlike you guys, we don't even have a concept of a "received pronunciation" anymore. There used to be a Mid Atlantic accent which I think was pretty cool. But when the Dutch say they pronounce one single sound in like 10 different ways, you realize that is just an entirely different level compared to our southern or midwestern accents or whatever. Same with the British accents probably.
>>73393152
A few years ago I went to a club in the east of the country. And some farmer said I talked just like on tv.
But when I went to Amsterdam they could hear I come from the city of Utrecht.
So apparently I dont talk like on tv after all.
>>73393152
thats quite unique for a european language, id have thought most of this would have gone by now
is it because historically the regions of the netherlands had a lot of indepence compared to other countries? the dutch golden age reminds me of the city states of renaisance italy but with a unified country
the eternal anglo gets spread too much, the dutch should get more credit for mercantilist jewry
>>73383169
>>73393169
Oh thanks, these are nice.
>>73393400
Yeah it depends on where you are. I use a rolling r in my region, but most use the gutteral one.
Another example of Flemish Dutch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCUX4Ut_vU&t=54s
>>73376472
>>73393470
>>73393468
Well, our religious borders kind of match accent borders.
Conservative protestants seperate hollandic, saxon and catholic regions.
But all old citied have their own accent as well. And between cities its more standard Dutch or a farmer accent.
And then you have Frisians and Luxemburgish people.
>>73393468
It's because we've always had "independant" provinces. We were only "The Netherlands" when it came to international affairs.
So now it's just more of a cultural thing.
>>73393652
>Luxemburgish
I meant Limburgish.
>>73393548
So small and so different. Why do Dutch people want to make everything so difficult for themselves?
First with the name of their country, then their language, then they for some reason started chimping out about catholicism which resulted in millions of deaths and they're literally building cities on areas that are practically underwater.
>>73393929
Believe the dialect differences get even bigger here in Belgium
The reason is lack of centralisation.
>>73393929
>its another new-worlders complain autisticly about europeans having a cultural heritage epsisode
>>73393929
Stubbornness.
>>73394014
Belgians are even more stubborn.
>>73393929
>>73394118
thats catholisism for you, same everywhere
>>73394118
Well that's because 'standard Dutch' basically comes down to the Holland dialect nowadays...
its supposed to be spoken underwater, of course it'll sound ugly on the surface
>>73395515
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