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If Wilders couldn't bring us Nexit, how will she be able

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If Wilders couldn't bring us Nexit, how will she be able to bring us Frexit? I want France to be great again.
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>>73251382
I want her to Make France French Again
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>>73251533
>France French Again
You should take what you can get away with and not get greedy.
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>>73251533
>>73251585
To make France French again get rid of the welfare state and get rid of jus soli and replace it with jus sanguinis.
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>>73251666
It's what she want to do
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>>73251666
>get rid of the welfare state
How? Socialist welfare was part of French lifestyle since before the migrant invasions.
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>>73251666
Why do you guys hate so much the "welfare state"? That's one of the crucial reasons why we keep calling you all as 1st world country.
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>>73251812
>That's one of the crucial reasons why we keep calling you all as 1st world country.
No, household income is what makes a country 1st first.

Welfare is used to siphon money from working, educated people and give to those who wont improve their status.

In short, welfare keeps people poor. Not designed or intended to keep people poor, but it does regardless.

Not to mention welfare is used as a football to corral voters.
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SHE WON'T WIN
how many fucking times we'll have to say it

Her party never won anything, stop having hope you faggots.
France is slowly dying because ppl are retarded, look around you, muslims are taking over the country but no one care
France is dead, deal with it
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>>73252008
>stop having hope you faggots.
N-nnnooo.
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>>73251382
france is a shithole and was never great
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>>73252047
Germany will be the shithole when France leaves EU.
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>>73252084
I am a Greek
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>>73252133
Both of those countries need to pay debts.

NOW PAY UP
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>>73252192
Greece is paying.
The french people were not interested in the recovery of Greece.
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>>73252269
>The french people were not interested in the recovery of Greece.
France must recover itself before recovering others.

Its like when you're on a plane and the Oxygen masks deploy. You are always told to cover yourself before those around you.
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>>73251382
Shouldn't it be called Frantir?
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>>73251925
I understand your point of view, but I just can't see certain things without the welfare state working well
I can give Brazil as an example, where the public schools and the public hospitals are utter shit with garbage education and infrastructure (there are people who literally DIE in the hospital's waiting line). Those ones who want a decent quality needs to pay a good monthly payment amount for the private ones. Even the upper middle class don't pay cheap.
In the other hand, Canada, Germany and the Nordic countries have good public schools and hospitals and everything is working fine for the society. Of course, the taxes price WILL rise, but is way better than pay the absurd price of every welfare private institutions offer.
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>>73252008
>defeatism
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>>73252363
>not AdiEU
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>>73252269
you wouldn't even be a part of the EU anymore if it weren't for hollande you ungrateful fucks
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>>73252336
The french and english do not care about others. They have a history of evil.
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>>73251382
she is a fucking lefty which plan to increase immigration in France and nationalise everything.

Im will never vote for her just because muh euro muh frexit autism.
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>>73252692
très bien
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>>73252695
Why not you french subhuman?
They saved your and german banks anyway.
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>>73252705
>They have a history of evil.
t; Nazi
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>>73252530
You need to understand that when people are protesting in France about stuff related to work or economy, it's everytimes to defend the welfare state or baby boomers pissing off about their retirement.
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Can't believe there are people prepared to vote for this fuckface
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>people continue to reply to the weird greek/turk posting under the german flag
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Trump being elected was the best thing that happened to Europe. Him swinging from blunder to failure put a big dent into the surveys for the far right here.
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>>73252745
Dude there is a problem you're posting with a German flag, can you fuck off back to Turkey if it's so much better please ?
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>>73252530
>In the other hand, Canada, Germany and the Nordic countries have good public schools and hospitals and everything is working fine for the society
Look at those countries, nothing is working fine for the society.

The systems can't even handle an influx of a few thousand people without breaking down.
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>>73251925
You realize that Le Pen is as pro-welfare as the SocDems?
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>>73252855
>a few thousand
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>>73252793
I am a Greek

>>73252848
Can you white subhuman stop creating problems in the world.
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>>73252866
>Socialist welfare was part of French lifestyle since before the migrant invasions.
Yes, I realize.
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>>73252855
>Nothing is working fine
Excuse me? We have record high employment rates, negative bond yields, record high tax revenue and a public budget surplus. When was the last time the US didn't have to sustain its budget by taking loans?
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>>73251666
>get rid of the welfare state
Le Pen is more left wing on economics than her rivals.
She doesn't want to get rid of or reduce the welfare state at all, she actually hates capitalism and free markets and wants to create tariffs within Europe again
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>>73251925
>welfare keeps people poor
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>>73252930
I hope that you also know that her father was a free market radical reaganite and that she did a 180 degrees turn with the party platform on economical issues.
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>>73252894
Its true, not all the migrants are going to 1 place.

They are spread throughout the EU and many of the cities they get to cannot properly hold them.

>>73252955
The US takes in more in taxes than any EU country, probably more than the EU combined.

When was the last time Germany accept refugees without taking property from Germans?
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>wanting a pro russian person to win
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>>73253220
they were never part of the USSR
they don't know that Russia touch is like cancer
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>>73253125
And the US also spends more, more than it takes in. So in short: even with an influx of millions of refugees, even with a welfare state and even with public health care we are able to run a budget surplus. Something the US hasn't achieved in a hundred years. So much for being good businessmen.

Btw, why do you care about renters being evicted from social housing and government funded housing? First: you wouldn't support social housing in the first place and second you also wouldn't care about protection from landlords as the free market guy you are.
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>>73252655
realism
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>>73253220
>>73253331
Fuck off and handle your own business

Why should we give a shit about what Russia does to you?
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Wilders is a stable factor in Dutch politics.
He owns a party and has absolute rule over it.

He isnt going anywhere.
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>>73253505
More like stable non-factor. Stable at being useless.
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>>73253477
>we
I don't see a french flag on you lad.
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>>73253370
>even with an influx of millions of refugees, even with a welfare state and even with public health care we are able to run a budget surplus
>Btw, why do you care about renters being evicted from social housing and government funded housing?
Because it proves what you're saying isn't true.

Germany and EU CANT even survive an influx of millions of refugees, with all their social programs and 'responsible budgets'. So they have to take private property.

The US, on the other hand, can afford to borrow money and survive the influx of 10x as many as Europe has taken (Central and South Americans).
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>>73253505
Once the American republican party stops financing him he will vanish in obscurity.
>no more bought up TV time for him
>no more bought up News coverage
We had a 'Wilders' like yours.Once the money dried out he disappeared from the political horizon.
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>>73251925
First world was used to describe NATO and allies during the cold war
Though then again who cares about the original meaning of words and phrases, certainly not Americans anyway since you guys don't even get 'liberal' in its OG meaning
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>>73253722
>Once the money dried out he disappeared from the political horizon.
You're supposed to give him some of your money if you want him to stick around.
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>>73253665
>So they have to take private property.
What are you taking about? The woman in the picture is renting in a government-funded appartment. It is not her private property. Lmao.
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germans are such good goyim lmao
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LASSALLE is the one we NEED

He grew up with BEARS and WOLF
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>>73253855
t; victim of welfare state

>>73253926
>The woman in the picture is renting in a government-funded appartment. It is not her private property. Lmao.
You're right, it belongs to refugees.

They paid the taxes for it, right? Whoops they just go to the country a few months ago.
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>>73253876
But i don't wan't him.
Wilders and political figures like him are the epitome of human trash.
>Wilders=trash
>Le Pen=trash
>Trump=trash
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>>73254028
This is a nose you can vote for.
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>>73251382
Why do alt-righters still believe in their champions when Trump turned out to be such an utter fraud?

If Le Pen wins she will be the same shit, once she is in charge of France she will certainly not do what Putin tells her to but what is politically convenient at the time
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>>73254038
Pretty hilarious, how you yourself lament about the state evicting someone by enforcing its rights as a landlord while you personally would evict every person that is living in government-funded housing because you don't believe in social housing in the first place! You also don't believe in renters protection and right.

Please everyone observe the cognitive dissonance of the average /pol/tard.

Btw, what do think about Trump legalizing ISPs to sell Internet Data? Do you think your future employer will like your taste in porn movies and the things you do on the net when they buy your Internet history
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>>73254142
>My team is winning, things are going good.

>>73254166
>when Trump turned out to be such an utter fraud?
>I've been lied to by every outlet in my life.
>I will continue to believe
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>>73254239
>I'm basing my knowledge of countries on sensationalized and misleading crap stories instead of considering real economical indicators but everyone else is reading 'the wrong outlets'.

You are a fucking imbecile, haha.
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>>73254236
>You also don't believe in renters protection and right.
It wont be hard to find a persons personal property that has been evicted for refugees in the EU.

Do you believe people who aren't citizens of Germany or EU should seize the property of a German citizen? It doesn't matter that shes a renter because she paid taxes and thats what you set the housing up for.

But you're avoiding the seizure of property because refugees and the fact that Europe cant take them has been brought to light.

Go ahead and change the subject to Trump again.
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>>73254370
>instead of considering real economical indicators
>"Hi, i really needed your help."
>"Me on the left".
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>>73254431
>It wont be hard to find a persons personal property that has been evicted for refugees in the EU.

If it is so easy? Why did you use a misleading story in the first place?
But ok, I'm waiting until you can come up with an exemple.
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>>73254562
>Why did you use a misleading story in the first place?
What misleading story have I put forth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FngJNG86mDM
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>>73254517
>I posted it again.

Like I said. No property seized. Only a landlord making use of his rights. Completely misleading story.
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>>73254665
>No property seized.
I didn't say it was ;)

I said European 'welfare' and 'healthcare' system isn't capable of supporting a small influx of people.
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>>73254778
Oh, suddenly you didn't? And yes it does. A municipality kicking out someone they don't deem entitled to goverment housing anymore is not the welfare state collapsing. This is so retarded.
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>>73254946
>A municipality kicking out someone they don't deem entitled to goverment housing anymore is not the welfare state collapsing.
>A Italian hotel owner being forced out of business to provide space for refugees isn't welfare collapsing
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>>73252705
1204 is literally the best year to ever happen in history
Boyfuckers BTFO, Latin mustard rice
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>>73254038
What does that have to do with the meaning of words and phrases you spastic?
Also your nation is a 'welfare state'
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>>73255116
>What does that have to do with the meaning of words and phrases you spastic?
What you're saying makes no sense, many words have more than one mean and will pertain a new meaning as peoples develop.

And the US is far from a welfare state.
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>>73251925
>Welfare is used to siphon money from working, educated people and give to those who wont improve their status.

>free-market cucks actually believe this

"those who wont improve your status" are already those who grant you your status, those who work, those who make bread, those who cure you in hospitals, those who build the roads, etc...

In a capitalistic economy, the parasites are not those who receive a few pennies from the welfare state, it's those who exploit them.
Having large sums of money does not mean you are a productive member of society, it just means you are efficient at legally stealing others production.

The welfare state as we know it in France is just common decency.
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>>73252866
Our SocDems are free-marketeers undercover.
Never have so much public companies been privatized than when the "Socialist" party was in power in France from 1981 to 1995.
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>>73255750
We are the free-marketeers !
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