Fact: this glorious empire dominated eastern and northern europe

>>73130052
what was glorious about it?

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Hail to the king!

sverige cuckpire

>>73130067
it slaughtered both germans AND poles

>>73130067
It won against the HRE, despise being poorer and HUGELY outnumbered

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>>73130052
Very conservative border drawing you're using there.

>>73130110
>>73130150
ok that is good

>>73130067
Absolutely nothing. Mercenary driven poor tundraland with delusions of grandeur. Which even more delusional swedes like to jerk off to.

Good night, have a nice thread.

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HEIL

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>>73130052
what place is this

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HITLER :3

We swedes are best :3 :3 :3

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>>73130247
Schlesswig-Holstein

>>73130247
They sacrificed their king in 30 years war to get some poorass counties in HRE

>>73130305
>>73130306
M, I see
thanks

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>>73130306
To defend the True Faith, you dog!

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>>73130159
Is that what you think about while Jamal is balls deep in you?

>>73130367
HEIL HITLER :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoQFUBgAMyo

>>73130306
>poor
Irrelevant, Sweden was a poor shithole itself. Those areas were however very strategically important

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>>73130200
>>73130248
>>73130388
...vad håller du på med för nått?

>>73130367
>Sverige styrde inte över stora delar av baltikum
Va?

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>>73130367
Kek, defend the faith and when you get dealt a blow immediately fall back and let france do the lifting.

>>73130414
In the grand scheme of things, no. King wanted them only to curtail hansa and try to downweigh em but it cost him his own life and a shitton of gold form the treasury when they started to subsidize france. Swedish imperialism phase was in itself just kinda sad blob of land trying to paddle upstream only to fins that upstream there was Whole lot of stronger empires waiting to beat you up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZMQ3bS0qAU

Sweden strong!!!

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>>73130477

>>73130477
tillbaka till sweddit med dig

>>73130574
>Stronger empires
We rised above both Denmark and Poland pretty much permanently, and Russia was weaker than us for almost a century

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqaIgeQXQgI

WE RULED TEH NORTH AND WE SUPERHUMANS.

>>73130721
Trevlig semester? Eller är du en invandrare?

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إرادة الله هي أن جميع الكفار استعبدت. الله أكبر
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQoJvI8XUa0

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Heil hitler and svea vikings, we ruled everything superpower!!!
WE MADE RUSSIANS AND CIVILIZED FINNS AND PUT DANE TO THE GRAVE XDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhOzRvkERc

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>>73130715
Only by immense struggle. More than half of the time the kingdom was on verge of bankruptcy or out of men in fighting shape to fight the wars. In reality you could've never beaten Russia Even if you were "stronger" especially when we're talking about pre-napoleonic logistical nighmares. Poland was obviously a waning power because of neighbouring great powers constantly teaming up to beat it and I don't even know why you mentioned Denmark. Your empire never became an empire because it strived for it. Moreso just few strings of extreme luck.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Sp04ibpQg

FUTURE VIKING AND RULER OF SWEDES!!

WE WILL KILL THE RYSSLAND AND FINNS AGAIN, WATCH OUT THE WORLD XDDD

>>73130992
>The empire wasn't sustainable
Wow, what a fucking revelation, all factors considered i'd say it was impressive that we managed to stay a dominant power for a whole century. Something i take Pride over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd9IqjxfZoo

WE SWEDES HAVE DOMINATED THE NORTH!!!!! WORLDWIDEPRIDE!

>>73131106
Sure, that's true.

We've just taught that it was a miracle that Sweden became a power to begin with lest it even holding on to more than few decades.

Fuck Swedish empire. That period only saw poor peasants getting killed in wars to enrich aristocracy,

>>73130598

that sad titanic music toward the end had me rolling

>>73131314

it wasn't all killing, they dumped some handfuls of you off in the new world as well in a failed bid to make a colony

Wow, it dominated some slavs and a frozen wasteland. Very nice work.

>>73131396
Slavs? American education or clever banter? Never can tell those apart.

>>73131385
>Let finns in charge of a colony
>They ruin it
Typical

>>73131396

please, I know the average american has to be a great dunce in this day and age, but please, they dominated danes and germans as well, all the while having a fraction of the population and resources

>>73131433

I think he's referring to the Scandinavians from sweden that viking'd the russians

unless he's never heard of the battle of Poltava

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J U S T

>>73130067
20% morale bonus

>>73131607

the fact that they were there is completely buried by the British conquest of the dutch colonies

it's easy to miss

>>73130067
The triumph of the few and the poor against the many and wealthy through discipline, bravery and hard work. It's an underdog tale, really.

>>73131681

and by that I mean, they were captured by the dutch so early on, that it was longer in dutch hands than theirs before the dutch went kaput

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>>73130052
fact: this glorious empire dominated eastern and northern europe and central asia for a whole centuries, but now its 2nd world filthy shithole with 400$ median wage

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>>73131671
r8

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>>73131738
>Tiny Sweden was more powerful than this fucking colossus
Lol

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>>73131671
>>73131812
and to show pu's

>>73131738

it had a chance, it was becoming a republic

you were robbed of your chance to grow by the bolsheviks, and with your current tsar/ commissar putin that ain't gonna change

>>73131836
because colossus is always shit, and it depends of rulers, if you are getting good rulers you are thriving, if bunch of idiots you are russia

and now you're being dominated by refugee niggers despite outnumbering them

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COMEBACK

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>>73130052
Still no Total War: 30years war

>>73132310
They have a new historical title in the works, but they haven't announced what it'll be yet. Could be 30 years war.

It looks like shit. The point is that sweden captured all the important trade cities in the baltic sea, effectively controlling the whole thing.

>>73131671
*infantry combat ability

>>73132981
What does this actually do? I've heard it said "Its like half that amount of discipline" But what does discipline fucking do?

Also r8>>73131812 >>73131856

>>73133123
>But what does discipline fucking do?

It determines how much max casualties you affect per tick in a fight

>>73133180
>you affect
inflict?

And doesn't do anything about damage taken or morale shock?

>Swedes celebrating imperialism, wars and death

So much for tolerant Sweden

>>73133123
discipline increases the amount of damage your troops inflict and receive, while combat ability only increases your damage

>>73133232
Yes Inflict* excuse me being tired.

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Did you guys see my Prussia? I just bought rights of man like last week. Prussia is disgusting atm. Like legitimately unfair

>>73133262
>while combat ability only increases your damage
Morale damage?

>>73133279
No problem.

>>73133240
This is a mere whimper of protest by Swedish autists on /int/ against their looming, inevitable genocide.

You mean you ruled few reindeers and empty finland and got raped by russians and made shitty fleets and got your super modern super ship sinking in 15 minutes

>>73130952
Is that fuck seriously called alfons åberg in sweden

>>73133910
Nice cherrypicking

>>73133910
>converted your super modern super ship into a super modern super submarine in 15 minutes
ftfy. Did you know that the Vasa could stay submerged for centuries at a time?

>>73130052
That's a nice King you got there, would be a shame if something happened to him.

>>73134223
Why did I kek so much, have a you

>>73134270
That's a nice country you got there, would be a shame if someone brought it into another union

>>73134391
We can afford more mercenaries than you.

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A E S T H E T I C

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>>73134223
>>73134270
>>73134391

>>73134461
would look better with Eastern Sweden tbqh, remember to bring them next time

>>73134539
Why do we get shit for being "eastern sweden" but estonians dont and norway is left alone too

>>73134445
Sweden GDP: 496 billion $
Norway GDP: 387 billion $
>>73134539
True

>>73134639
Because we were always an actual country, even when we were in the unions we weren't considered a part of the other country like you were (think of it as a confederacy or federation).
No one really cares about Estonia.

>>73134683
Sweden population: 10 million
Norway population: Like 3 dudes with kang helmets and oil

>>73134639
Because it was a lääni in sweden called Österland

>>73134683
we shit all over you when it comes to gdp per capita

>>73134910
>Österland

B-but muh Sweden-Finland

>>73134973
Weren't you aware that it was similar to norrland svealand for the longest time?

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>>73130052
You can keep Jemtland, Herjedalen and Båhuslen. They are probably shitholes anyway.

>>73132149
>dominated
Where and how?

>>73130247
Bremen

>>73133982
Ja. Hurså?

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>>73134973
That was never a thing. "Finland" used to refer to just the southwest part of Österland, one of the four "lands" of Sweden. Österland was an integrated part of Sweden and was no different from any of the other core provinces.

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>>73134860
>>73135834
This.

>>73135219
Bohuslän is comfy af and Jämtland and Härjedalen have many good skiing opportunities, thanks Norway!

>>73135834
Not him, but that's not the whole truth. You are correct in that Finland didn't refer to the whole area of what is now considered Finland, but neither did it only mean the SW part of Finland, as the term evolved over time. After the Finnish tribes became a part of Sweden, that part of Finland was indeed what was known as Finland. By the time Finland was taken by Russia, Finland meant the area from Vyborg to Österbotten, and the northern half of what is now Finland was obviously known as Lapland. Between those 2 points of time the meaning changed and evolved over the years, and as a side note it was actually a Swedish king who made Finland a grand duchy (as a fuck you to the Russians, as Novgorod was known as a grand duchy, and calling Finland that made it a lesser title essentially).

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>>73137434
>it was actually a Swedish king who made Finland a grand duchy (as a fuck you to the Russians, as Novgorod was known as a grand duchy, and calling Finland that made it a lesser title essentially).
Classic.

>>73137543
Indeed, perhaps one of the most patriotic moments in my life, to realize that our whole country exists as a middle finger to Russia (also proof that you guys knew how to banter back in the day).

without the civilization and wisdom of Sweden, the burgeoning evolution of the Finnish species would today be severely diminished or halted.

Language, writing, permanent human settlements, metal working... all were introduced to the Finn by the good grace of the Swede less than a millennia ago

>empire

>>73138041
None of those were introduced to Finns by Swedes, and we've had all of those way, way, way longer than a millenia ago (except for writing, nobody knows how long we've had that exactly but at least since the 900s)

>>73138157

before the advent of Swedish dominion over the Österland there were no cities there

>>73138310
Towns and villages aren't a permanent human settlement? Anyhow, I'm sure you were just trying to troll in a weak way. Next time you shouldn't focus on tangible things like that, that can be easily proven to be true or false. Instead you should say that we had no culture or that our culture was shit, that we were too weak, or say that our fight in WWII is overrated and so on. I'm sure you'll get much more replies and bait way more people that way.

>>73137434
>it was actually a Swedish king who made Finland a grand duchy (as a fuck you to the Russians, as Novgorod was known as a grand duchy, and calling Finland that made it a lesser title essentially).
Reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjSJocMMfiU

>>73138041
This

FINNS ARE SHIT :(

>>73133355
All damage in EU4 kills. Morale loss is just a result of people dying, and when it's out you lose no matter how many men you have left.

This is why Morale is more important early on when it's low, and killing force is more important later because everyone has assloads of infantry.

>>73141172
Ok. So in reality I am pretty shit at the game man. For one thing I'm very lazy and tend to just find a way to get vassal swarms so I don't really have to micro manage my forces. Also I've been caught out when manually carpet sieging more than once so I'm a bit raw on it.

So combat ability increases killing power and discipline adds killing power but also reduces damage?

Have the amount of artillery of your combat width then like 1.5 times that amount of infantry. What else am I missing? I've noticed that once they have a larger combat width than you they massacre you. Also the ai cheats.

>>73134955
Yet we have better roads.

>>73142778
*cheaper

>>73142778
>>73145493
Swedish roads are better because they aren't so narrow