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Why do Argies say they have Italian influence when the most popular

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https://surnames.behindthename.com/top/lists/argentina/2006

1. Fernandez
2. Rodriguez
3. Gonzalez
4. Garcia
5. Lopez
6. Martinez
7. Perez
8. Alvarez
9. Gomez
10. Sanchez
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>>73092805
because the immigrants were mostly women who got OLÉ'D when they arrived
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>>73092805
no wonder their country is such a mez now
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>>73093008
they sure are messi
haha
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>>73092805
>EZ
.
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i am greek
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ArgentiniAN
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>>73092805
Aren't there only like 30-40 Spanish last names?
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>>73093162
ArgentiniANez
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>>73092805
In general spanish surnames are much less diversified compared to the italian ones 2bh. Even Rossi isn't as common as García or Lopez.
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Spanish surnames are always generic. A lot of italians surnames are unique to the family.
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>>73093174
this got it right
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Argentines love to pretend they're different. Which is also a spanish heritage thing, we do the same with >muh visigoth
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>>73092805
Because the first family name is alway's the father's.
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The Italian immigration was much more recent, no?
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>>73092989
I want to see the porn
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>>73093266
We are heavily influenced by visigoths when it comes to names though
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>>73093040
how do you feel about neymar being the future goat, and giving you the 6th WC in 2018?
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Still half of Argentina's population are italian descendants.
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presidents candidates in argentina were italians descendent (Scioli,Massa,Macri)... italians are controlling our nacion, they are illuminatis... help us plssssssssss
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>>73093548
lol that's probably why argentina is such a shithole now kek. Feels good, another utopian country destroyed by italians
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Italy had colonies???
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>>73093603
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>>73093548
Goddamn there are more Italian Argentines than Italian americans?

That seems inconceivable considering the complete culture and language difference
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>>73093679
>United States as an italian tributary state
>Brazil isn't one as well

eh
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>>73094097
You guys don't have so much italian influence t.bh. They are mostly concentrated in the New England region, and that's it. Your immigrants mostly came from Germany and Ireland.
In Argentina, in other hand, Italy was the absolute main source of immigrants. I already went to Buenos Aires, and the city as a whole has a lot of italian influence.
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>>73094097
Argentina is like Italy, this is why it is always bankrupted
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WE
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Because Spanish people inbreed a lot so most of them have the same surnames

Leaving that aside, it's because Argentina had a lot of immigrants of Spain(just like Italy), but ALSO there already were a lot of Spanish people here before the immigration, because, after all, this had been a Spanish colony. Even the Native Americans here have Spanish surnames.
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>>73094532
why so few slavs?
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>>73093548
I am an Italian descendant in denial. I have Spanish surname.
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>>73093588
i preffer to be intalian anglo senpai
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>>73094724
fuck wtf am i writing

i preffer to be italian than anglo
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>>73094681
It happens. I'm italian descendant as well, but I have a portuguese surname from my mother... Still got my italian surname too.
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>>73094351
Ahh so basically Italians there = Germans here

Except Germans didn't really add all that much culturally here
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Must've been hard for those Italians to learn Spanish or Portuguese. The Italians here had a hard time learning English
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>>73093192
This is the reason I think.

Those surnames are too common here.

>>73094532
(((russian))), (((polish))), ((austro-hungarian)))

I only know 4 Jewish families and 3 of them are from Argentina.
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Imagine the following. Argentina had 2 million people in 1869, of those 2 million, about 1,8 million had Spanish surnames. That's about 90% of the population

After 1869, a lot of immigrants start to arrive. By early 20th century 50% of the population had been born outside this country. Of the 50% that had been born in Argentina, around 75% had Spanish surnames. That's 37,5% of the population. From the 50% that had been born outside of Argentina, 20% had been born in Spain, and thus also had Spanish surnames. That is another 10% of the total. So about 47,5% of the population of Argentina would have Spanish surnames.

Meanwhile, 25% of the 50% that had been born outside Argentina had been born in Italy. That's more than those born in Spain. That means, that a 12,5% of total population. And a 20% of those borns in Argentina had Italian surnames. That is a 10% of the total. This means that 22,5% of the population had Italian surnames.

47,5% of Spanish surnames vs 22,5% of Italian surnames. That meant that at the end, a lot of people with Italian surnames would eventually lose them because of intermarrying with people with Spanish surnames, who already were the majority of the country. So eventhough a lot of people in Argentina have Italian ancestry, not really all of them have Italian surnames.
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>>73095068
Not really. Italian is very similar to Spanish and Portuguese
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>no Tequilez
>no Mariachez
>no Saltofrontierez

fake data imo
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>>73095481
I thought the whole reason Lunfardo exists is because Italians couldn't learn Spanish and had to create a 50/50 way to speak?
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>>73095068
>>73095481
italo australian is much easier for us
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>>73093679
I fucking hate tanos.
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>>73095730
Maybe they didn't want to learn Spanish because they could communicate with SPanish speakers in Italian. I know because I've been in Italy myself and could speak Spanish and the Italians would understand me. I wouldn't understand Italians as well as they understood me though.
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>>73093174
Pretty boring desu
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>>73095849
That's basically an English speaker trying to sound Italian
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Argentines/Uruguayans should all be killed, alongside their "gaúcho" brethren in Brazil. What a shitty """""""people"""""".
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>>73093174
Only outside the peninsula.
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>>73095968

shut up, nordestino/carioca.
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>>73093505
How?
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>>73096023
Meet me anytime, fag scum. I'd love to test your sissy chin.
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>>73096080
What's life like in Northern Brazil?
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>>73095968
*teleports behind you and stabs with facón*
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>>73095068
I thought most Romance language speakers speak their native languages when they speak to each other?

Except French.
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>>73096144
I live in Rio de Janeiro, m8. It's fine. Richer and less dangerous than south or north Brazil.
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>>73093522
neymar is a worse pipoqueiro than messi
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>>73092805
>all of them ending with -ez

that's slav tier
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>>73096207
>Rio de Janeiro
>Less dangerous than anywhere in the world
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>>73096154
*kill you with a single punch*
Shh, nothing personnel, kid.
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>>73096277
What? All our surnames do not have the same suffix.
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>>73096207
>>73096080
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>>73096295
Do you want statistics, argie scum? I have them.
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>>73096327
You will taste my blade before that (and my bolas)
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>>73096277
-ez means easy
for example 1040-EZ is a federal tax form in a simplified format
specifically designed for the names like fernadez
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>>73095968
>northern monkeys

You might as well be caribbean
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>>73096461
Dumb hick, your entire life is about watching bovines eat grass while you drink """""""""""""""tea""""""""""" made of this same grass.
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>>73096617
nah, they also smoke it. weed that is.
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>>73096669
I forgot that they also smoke grass. Thanks for the reminder.
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>>73096207
rio de janeirois the worst city of brazil lmao
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>>73096801
Whatever makes you sleep at night, provincial scum.
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>mfw brazilians love their portuguese ancestry
>Mfw argentinians hate their spanish ancestry
>Mfw feels good

Lusodescendants are the masterrace kf south america
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>>73097297
>argentinians hate their spanish ancestry
wut?
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>>73097297
We hate the Spanish because the disgusting Italian Argentine cucks wanted to make us believe that Italy was our real madre patria
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>>73096987
is this a real pic? there is something about the color or contrast that it looks like a 3D render
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>>73097297
>mexicans hate the Spanish
>White Americans like the British

I'm noticing a pattern here
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>>73097297
>Mfw argentinians hate their spanish ancestry

have you not seen the memes?
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>>73097581
What memes
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>>73097437
Hmm, yes?
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>>73095068
i struggle today
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>>73097434
you filthy spainboo need to gtfo from my colony asap, k?
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>>73097892
Hey bro, don't be rude with him, he's cool
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Friendly reminder.
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>>73097953
italy and spain are natural born enemies, no peace between us. Spanish oppression of italy will never be forgotten, every kid in italy is born with hatred for the spaniards.

You will not steal our south american colony.
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>>73097297
that is right. my parents are portuguese and i am proud of it
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>>73098116
t. el napolitANO
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>>73097297
>Mfw argentinians hate their spanish ancestry
We make fun of Spain a lot but deep inside we are all willing to give our lives to the madre patria.
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>>73097297
Based Luso-Brasileiro reporting in.
>tfw Trás-os-Montes master race
Feels good.
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>>73097297
tfw luso-shitalian
the mastest of races
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>>73098130
>>73098538
*ahem*, if you're anywhere in south brazil you disgusting joaos need to gtfo from there, that's italian clay

>>73098582
my brother
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Spanish surnames have very little variety for some reason while this is not the case with Italian ones.

Fucking Rodríguez and González are everywhere.
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>>73098337
>We make fun of Spain a lot but deep inside we are all willing to give our lives to the madre patria.
I really can't believe that
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>>73098337
>argies prefer ethpana, 5pa1n, asspain over us

feels bad man
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>>73099225
Italy never tries to make any connection with Argentina, unlike Spain. Italy is like the father who fucked his wife and then never came back home, which is sad because his child Argentina wants him to at least say hi and give him a hug.
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>>73098653
>mfw the only nice place in South Brazil is an azorean city
Lmao, shitalians.
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>>73099380
i thought italians companies were common here
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>>73099225
Most Italians don't even think Argentina has any connection to Italy
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>>73099380
well we have our own problems, but when italians and argentines meet, we're immediatly brotier, like long lost brothers
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>>73099448
This is the foreign investment in argentina
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>>73099518
is this a form of Italian bonding?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG37Oh1Mowk
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any Escobar here?
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>>73099560
that's just banter and argentines are uppity sissies kek
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>>73099522

Uruguay strong.
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>>73099461
But most Italian descendant Americans are loud and proud of both heritage's. Thank Hollywood I guess, most Sicilian immigrants ended up becoming more successful over time. Probably not the case in Argentina.
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>>73099461

Argentina has by frar the highest number of people with Italian Citizenship tho.

I don't really think that is the case.
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>>73099560
m u e r t o d e h a m b r e
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>>73097297
Because Portuguese are actually nice people and not retarded like Spaniards.
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>>73099522
sneaky toothpasteses
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More Italians probably know English at this point than Spanish
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>>73099956
Wow, these are pretty high numbers.
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>>73100328
How long would it take an Italian speaker to learn Spanish? 2 weeks? 3?
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>>73100404
Also out of date.
The number of italians in the uk has more than doubled since then
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>>73099956
REEEE, carcamanos OUT.
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>>73100501
soon we will be enough to expell all dirty poortuguese lovers like yourself
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>>73093548
>More Italians are believed to have moved to the UK than any other European country in 2015; 600,000 are now estimated by the Italian consulate to live in the UK. More Italians live in London than any other city in the world, except Buenos Aires.

hmmm
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Imagine if Italy was a country and took over Latin America
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>>73093558
No wonder it went from one of the richest countries in the world to the shithole it is today
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Because being Spanish is an utter embarrassment and no one likes to be asociated to fucking Spain at all. It's why Argies wewuz so much, because they're niggers who don't like themselves.
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>>73100679
I despise the filthy dago SCUM that now roam our streets
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>>73100679
los friegaplatos londinenses seniores
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>>73100857

Tbh, Spanish surnames here are pleb as fuck and no one notices them. Only basques we wuz bit with them. Italian surnames have a bit more bling bling to them.

t. french surname master race
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>>73101062
fun fact: spanish surnames hold social status in the philippines
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>>73101062
how are Welsh surnames perceived in Argentina?
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>>73101062
People with shitty surnames use their maternal surname too.
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>>73101062
Your surname is Ngongo Mohamed?
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>>73101147

Here in Uruguay there are no Welsh, but anglo surnames in general have some prestige.

>>73101226

kek, I know a guy who always makes sure to use both of his surnames because he's named something like Juan Rodríguez Howard.
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>>73101062
Todos acaban en "ez" porque España es una hez.

Nelson > Lezo
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>>73101430
haha so if I go to Uruguay people will think I am prestigious because I am Anglo?
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>>73101430
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>>73101430
My first surname is Spanish but my second surname is French. Unfortunately I only have my first surname in my DNI.
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>>73101497
it's kinda like that in most SA countries desu, with anglos and germans especially
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>>73101497

I mean "prestige" in that they make you more distingushable unlike the masses of Gonzalez and Frenandez.
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Do Italians also have the practice of using two names?
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>>73101568
Argentina is white.
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