‘Russia Is a Threat to All of Europe’ according to Lithuanian

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>Do you agree with her statement?
Yes.

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>>72738760
No, they're just a threat to baltics who can't defend themselves lmao

>>72738760
We could utterly heem Russia back into their frozen shithole in less than 6 months with zero allied help

Not to Finland they are not. We good neighbors. Hopefully the sanctions will be lifted soon and we can continue trading with Russia.

>>72738800
But you are in the NATO, and the EU, how crazy do you think Russians would be to instigate a world war over a tiny swamp when they already own the biggest country on the planet?

Aren't you a bit paranoid?

>>72738843
theyd be parading in london within a week

>>72738891
Hmmm yes rusted equipment from the 70s is a force to be reckoned with, runt. Russia is useless once they leave their own borders

>>72738760
>Do you agree with her statement?
Yes, be very afraid.

>>72738760
Yes, we shouldn't show any weakness when dealing with Russia

>>72738934
we have never ever won a war against a power as strong as russia without a lot of help

they'd conquer us within weeks

>>72738760
well she is right, everybody outside of europe is a threat to europe, EU is a threat to europe too.

>>72739000
Because Britains policy hasn't been invasion of the mainland for hundreds of years

>>72738875
Its not as much as to get baltics but to destroy NATO and EU in general, if NATO and EU wouldn't defend the baltics it would destroy itself and if they would they would be starting WW3. And Putin might try do that, he would immediately use his nukes as a threat to the west when invading the baltics he would say are you really ready to destroy the world for these three countries?

>>72739178
But they could've occupied your countries anytime in the past ~30 years, and they didn't do so. What makes you so sure, they are really out to get you?
>And Putin might try do that, he would immediately use his nukes as a threat to the west when invading the baltics he would say are you really ready to destroy the world for these three countries?
I find it more alarming that you'd destroy the planet instead of surrendering. Talk about absolute selfishness.

No
All lies

>>72738760
No, and we should drop the "sanctions" for Crimea as well.

>>72738875
It's not paranoia, it's justified, rational fear.
EU is not permanent. NATO is not permanent. You have to keep working to keep the beast at bay.

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>>72739468
>I find it more alarming that you'd destroy the planet instead of surrendering. Talk about absolute selfishness.
Reminds me of that scene in Fate/Zero with Kiritsugu him saving the majority instead of the minority, but in the end he still ends up with only saving the minority even if he choose to save the majority.
Saving the majority for the price of minority is a good idea in theory, but like I said he would start with the baltics and if the west would decide to save the majority for the price of minority, even if destroying the EU and NATO in the process what says that Putin won't go further west? Taking Poland,Hungary,Germany and all other countries you'd eventually end up in the same point
>But they could've occupied your countries anytime in the past ~30 years, and they didn't do so. What makes you so sure, they are really out to get you?
What they did in Ukraine and the massive military presence in Kaliningrad, Zapad, Russian parliament members questioning the sovereignty of the baltic states.

>>72738760
Who cares about Lithuania?

>>72740124
Obviously not you, Mohammed.

>>72738760
Balts are rather butthurt about the soviet thing.
It was shit, sure, but time moves on.
USA and Russia are both "threads" to Europe. Oh and China, India, Afrika, mosquitos, jihadists, idiots, niggers...

>>72739910
>EU is not permanent. NATO is not permanent.
Well it doesn't look like they're in a hurry to go away though. Selling weapons is a multi-billon dollar business, and Americans need us to buy their shit we'll never use.

>>72740051
I was only joking anon. Anyway, have you tried instead of demonizing them starting a dialogue? Communication is always key to a good relationship.

>>72740051
I thought you were memeing as it is normal here, but seems like you actually believe it.
Be careful cold wasteland bydlo will eat your babies

>>72740369
>Well it doesn't look like they're in a hurry to go away though.
To me it seems the EU is at a crossroads. Marin le Pen -> EU is torn apart. Euro first, then everything first. No buts about it.

>>72738760
Is Red scare another meme being dragged back up from the 80's? Who the fuck cares about Russia, Europe has larger problems.

>>72740369
>Anyway, have you tried instead of demonizing them starting a dialogue?
That's hard, from our history we know that Russians understand action and not talks, Soviets ignored our peace treaties in WW2 and occupied us, but left Finland alone when they kicked their ass.

buh
buh
buh
butthurt

>>72738760
Yes. Mostly because for Russians power = threat.

>>72738760
Russia is a threat to human civilisation in general.

But she's not alone in that.

>>72740516
Le pen will never be elected though. French people are too left leaning.

>>72740686
> Soviets ignored our peace treaties in WW2 and occupied us, but left Finland alone when they kicked their ass.
I think it's less to do with Finnish forces, but more about their 'charming' personalities and culture.

>>72740541
>Europe has larger problems.
Not Europe as a whole

>>72740882
>Trump will never be elected
I'm just saying...

>http://blogs.voanews.com/russia-watch/2012/05/06/move-russias-capital-from-moscow-to-siberia/

If they would move their countries core to the middle, threatening the baltics would not be as important for them as it seems as they mainly consider rocket bases too close to moscow an affront.

Defusing Kaliningrad is another important task to defuse the situation,neither one sided saberrattling nor delusions of friendship with the russians seem to work.

>>72740369
>have you tried instead of demonizing them starting a dialogue?
how do you talk with someone so utterly dishonest, immoral and unscrupulous like current russian representation?

They will happily murder your family and talk to you like nothing happened and if you point it out, they will call you >>72740719

Then perception is absolutely skewed between reality and internet. Balts are overrepresented here, but in reality nobody cares in real life, except burger heritage fights. Just look at r Europe, full of romani gypsy and balts

>>72740967
Nice generalization, but soviet union doesn't exist anymore

>>72738760
Yes
>>72738843
Agree
>>72738891
You have to go back, ivan.

>>72741031
Yes, a fact some of the people openly regret.
Unfortunately some of these people are in charge.

>>72740915
If Hillary wouldn't have lied every 0.2 seconds, didn't violate federal law like it's in fashion, hadn't manipulated Democrats behind the scene to screw Sanders over, and finally if she wasn't so fucking creepy, she might have even won. A lot of the Sanders voted Trump just to spite that revolting whore.

Or, if it was Sanders against Trump, he would've BTFO'd him.

>>72741128
Trump would've destroyed Bernie in the elections

>>72740541
Says someone living in Canada

The U.S is selling obsolete weaponry to us. Austrians are clashing with Russians on the recently faltered largest company that the government is trying to save, and Hungarians, with Russian money, are holding our oil company by the balls

The said "largest company" has a foods monopoly on the entire territory of former Yugoslavia

>>72741094
Some ppl in estonia, finlan etc would also like to wipe out the eternal "r*ssian" and would love to see a revival of 3rd Reich because of Hitler's hate towards Russian.

Putin for example despises communism and its brutality in the 50s afaik

>>72738760

No. It's a threat for them and the rest of their eastern euro neighbors.

And they will never EVER have nice things because they are located between the russian hammer and the interna$ional anglojew anvil.

>>72741240
I thought rissia has the same gdp as italy and thus ise irrelevant shithole

>>72741246
Yeah right. I guess that makes it okay, he wouldn't exterminate all parentless youth but he'll settle for murdering an occasional inconvenient journalist.

>>72740967
>try to resist the forced transformation of /int/ into /pol/ (albeit completely accomplished by moot in 2013) by keep bringing rational arguments and whistleblowing since beginning of this decade
>once in a blue moon get fed up and decide to shitpost in the most generic way
>instantly get called murderer
gotta love this place

Yes, be very afraid. Rawr >:3

>>72741239
Wrong. Hillary divided democrats and alienated her voters. Sanders would've united them.

>>72738760
>Do you agree with her statement?
Yes.

>>72741304
Nicely moving he goal post, first it is the Russian who want to kill you, and now it's only the leaders. What now? Just admit you hate the average russian

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>>72738760
>according to Lithuanian president

Could be worse, could be Latvia and getting Canada to protect you.

>>72741481
Dont you guys are also pressured by turkey?

>>72741539
They are in fact Turkish rape babies. Their inferiority complex prevents them from being rational. They hate everyone and would rather alienate with gypsys

>>72738760
She overstates it a bit but yes, and I would be seriously pissed at Trump if he shirks our NATO commitments in any way. Dog bless Poland and the Baltics we love you.

>>72738760
>Russia is a threat to Europe
>Not Islam, sandniggers and Jewish elites

Europe YES!

>>72741539
>Don't you guys are also pressured by turkey?
Yes and a United federal European Union can't come soon enough.

>>72741489
Nice try, fagislav. Please show where I'm implicating an average russian ITT.

That's not to say there's not an awful lot of retards there, some of which think it's "funny" or "badass" how their leadership is blaming their shit on everyone else but their own failure and corruption.

Yee i'm da threat, fear me you shits.

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>>72741671
Don't make me say it.

>>72741618
What rationality would you stand for if you are wedged between russians and turks with a depleted demography?
The balkanpeoples in general need a serious restructuration and defense capabilities. The US invests in romania now as it its size and position makes for a local counterweight.
In theory at least, in practize its fucking romania sadly and I hope they get their shit together.

>>72741675
You are doing it again mate, get out of your bubble and get some fresh air basement dweller

>>72741757
Balkan is rightful Turkish and habsburg clay. Romania stole land from hungary. Balkanniggers have no claim for territory, it's their masters claim

>>72741770
there's more irony in your post than what was excavated and processed in magnitogorsk over course of previous century.

>>72741478
No he wouldn't. He is a crazy quack that thinks Venezuela is doing good

>>72738760
Of course.

>>72741478
No he wouldn't have, and I can say that definitively as someone who was a registered Democrat until late 2015 and left entirely because my choice was between him and her.

>>72741974
What didn't you like about them?

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>>72741671
A balkan union would be better imo. Either as a temporary solution or a lasting one. At the moment open borders not only lead to criminal networks paratising on the west-east routes freely but also a braindrain of your best leaving your land barren.
That is good for our industry seeking specialists but bad for the people getting damaged by massive organised robbery, prostitute enslavement and the like while it might be good for some of your lower stratas of society which can funnel western ressources into their laps but bad for your higher economy as you'll lack the people to sustain investment.
The economic rift between us is too great.
Now, maybe you are simply blackpilled and wish for some western european EU-comissar to be assigned to your federalized region because you dont trust your own country and people to better themselves which would be kinda sad.

>>72742037
Different guy but one is blatantly corrupt and the other is quack that got kicked out of a hippie commune for being to lazy that ended up buying a third vacation home with campaign donations

>>72738760
yes

>>72742037
Hillary was ingenuine and a complete fraud of a person, her entire life has been spent flip flopping on every single issue you can imagine, to the point where at one point she was almost indistinguishable from some Republicans. She puts on fake accents depending on what crowd she's trying to appeal to, she made millions on paid speeches to bankers and lobbyists. She voted for the Iraq War and wanted to continue US warmongering to feed her military industrial complex owners.

Bernie was well-intentioned but I saw some very concerning Constitutional conflicts with what he wanted to do, and he ultimately came off as completely spineless and weak. I lost all respect for him once he caved to Shillary and dropped out, but that was later.

Both of them also froze my preferred candidate (Jim Webb) out of the first debate completely, to the point where Hillary literally had twice as much time to speak as he did. I was so completely offended by that, that I dropped my party membership the next week.

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>>72741974
>voting in the first place

Anon...

>>72742105
No, we need a federal EU so that all wages in the union become the same.
Nobody will leave Bulgaria for Germany if they can get payed the same money here.
>The economic rift between us is too great.
Let's remove it than.Labor should be treated and payed for equally in the whole of EU.

Your solution is stupid since people would just leave this Balkan union instead.

Mine solution is better.

>>72738760
I mean, yeah, it kinda is. Living under them is terrible and trading with them is sketchy and one-sided.

>>72738837
This.

>Russia is a threat to all of Europe
They're less of a threat now than when they were the USSR. Now they don't even have an ideology to spread.

>>72742321
>it's a "federal EU Bulgarian" episode

>>72742286
>not voting

You are part of the problem

>>72742321
>all wages in the union become the same.
By magic? Not even inside of germany the wages are equal as you can see on this map and we are fully federalized. Note that the ex-commi east despite massive investments (Länderfinanzausgleich means that the western&southern states still give money to the eastern ones every year to eual it out.) still lacks behind after 30 years.
In a massive european federal state the situation would be the same with your southeastern region.
Mind you our east is completely overaged and still suffers from some problems, albeit its catching up with the new well educated generation.
>Labor should be treated and payed for equally in the whole of EU.
By what measure?
I am sorry but while you can force companies to accept a minimumwage as we did here you cant force them to not cherrypick wages according to the infrastructure of their regions which costs them more or less besides the education their employees received which has differing qualities as well. Its not that simple sadly.

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Forgot map.

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>>72741516
We must protect qt Estonia.

https://twitter.com/BritishArmy/status/845631124193890304

>>72742625
I'm gonna bully qt Estonian bois

>>72742658
No you shan't

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>>72742658
no bully pls.

>>72742708
Nice dog

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>>72742684
Yes, I will
>>72742708
I'll make them love it

>>72742482
No, you are. Voting is a farce, nothing ever truly changes. Government is a tool of oppression, and it is the duty of everyone to resist it.

>>72742770
>trump wasn't voted in

Maybe in your cuckold eu state voting doesn't matter

>>72742578
You are looking at things from an entirely economical point.
I don't have an exact solution worked out in details.
But i can tell you that looking from a purely economic perspective will fail us all.

We are not numbers on a sheet of paper.

>>72742827
He was, and that's the problem. Now everyone who didn't vote for him has to suffer his moronic decisions. That's not imply Hillary would've been better, because she's a fraud, merely a criticism of the system.
It's the tyranny of majority.

>>72742903
>moronic decisions
Name one

>>72738760
Glad to see she's not as butthurt and rational about Trump.

>>72742935
all of them :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>72738760
Shitskins are the real threat to Europe

>>72742952
HAHAHAHAHA classic Australia! XDD permission to save my funny sir?? true bantz INDEED *jerks off to post* XD

>>72742952
oh fug :-DDDD we gant let dis guy hab the nuglear godes :-DDDDDDD

>>72742952
Aussies are awake lads
10/10 include me in the screencap

>>72738843
in your dream

>>72742952
Classic aussie

she's right but who cares either way. the EU is ineffective at anything they try to accomplish together. the Baltics can thank NATO

>>72742860
Well, Im simply trying to tell you that what you want for all of europe does not work as fast as you expect if you look at our little miniEU here as an example. Concerning numbers on a paper-After the wall fell the money transfers to the east besides other policies of that kind were done out of idealism and the wish to homogenisize germany not economic reasons alone.
>I dont have an exact solution
Im not an expert too, but by comparing how already established systems worked out in comparison to similar ones you want to establish in the future you can get a vague idea what is about to happen and what not. And thats not instant euality and prosperity, even though we all would wish it would be.

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>>72738760
Yes. Russia strong.

>to all of Europe

hehe, feels good living in Western Europe

And Europe is a danger to Russia, or, more accurately, is percieved as a danger. 'Analisys' goes as "first Napoleon, then Gitler, then NATO/EU". Russian military analysts wil never believe that NATO is anything but an agressive expansionsit block that is preparing for a first-strike nuclear assault or something similar
That's how (for example) crimea situation was evaluated. "Fascist ukr goverment will give Sebastopol to NATO and missile defense of core regions would be no longer possible" (note: in russan analysis fascist and nazi are used unterchangeably, as inherited from soviet analysis - and it is understood essentially as "militant russophobe")
With that thinking in mind, any military buildup in Baltics is seen as threat to Kaliningrad and St Petersburg and so russian military buildup will always follow. Simple politics: leadership must be able to claim that "those NATO troops can be easily defeated"

>>72743156
Yes nothing says "military might" like a crowd of underequipped, uneducated alcoholics in rusty soviet-era tanks

Shaking in my boots Vlad

>>72742935
Building a wall to Mexico when like 1/3 of your population is already Latino is pretty pointless. But hey, i'm not saying fences are ineffective. Just that you did it too late. For example Hungary built a fence and it does keep migrants out, and us free from muslims. But we did it just in time.
>>72744406
>Russian military analysts wil never believe that NATO is anything but an agressive expansionsit block that is preparing for a first-strike nuclear assault

To be fair, they're correct in their assumption. NATO in my opinion does try to further escalations, building missile systems right next door to Russia and such. Like I said, selling weapons IS a multi billion dollar business.
I believe it would be possible to pacify Russian leaders, through communication, and by giving a bit of breathing space to them, showing a bit of good will. It worked in the past. And if the ordinary Russians won't feel threatened anymore, see we're not their enemy, maybe agressive Russian leaders won't be leaders anymore for much longer, as another revolution sweeps them away.
Just my two cents.

>>72745176
>It worked in the past
What? When we were too weak to resist after the fall of SU they used that time to move NATO closer and closer to our borders. It's clear that the only language they understand is strength.
If, for example, NATO was disbanded after the fall of SU and Russia was welcomed into the international community then we wouldn't feel like the west is trying to tighten a rope around our neck.

>>72745176
> hey're correct in their assumption
Well, that's one of opinions that cannot just be trasmitted. I have seen gian threads on Reddit that boiled down to "silly paranoid russians, NATO is defensive and peaceful, look at its documents"
> it would be possible to pacify Russian leaders, through communication, and by giving a bit of breathing space to them, showing a bit of good will. It worked in the past
That i can agree with.
Truth to be told, "pacification" process can be traced as far back as 1970s. That's where theoru of convergence starts from - and it can be traced how Soviet union was pacified by improving eeast-west cooperation which has made it reliant on western goodwill and then vulnerable to pressure (like grain sales bans etc). That is how Cold War was really won - not by "Star Wars" or Afganistan debackle

>>72743495
Now imagine what will happen if something happens in eastern Europe.
>millions of people from easter Europe will become refugees
>they will all land in France
Imagine the horror of having 4 million Bulgarians in France :^)

>>72745286
>It's clear that the only language they understand is strength.
No, they understand communication as well. But when all you have a hammer, it's easy to see everything as a nail. With that attitude you're basically trying to start another arm's race/cold war. It's just going backwards instead of forth. Pretty pointless.

>NATO was disbanded
Well that's unlikely to happen, but I can imagine steps being taken to deescalate things and improving relations. I'm sure Russian people would prefer more peaceful relations and cooperation too with the West.

>>72745457
I think it's important to apply criticism not just to Russia but to ourselves as well. Both parties are at fault, but Russian leaders think it's their survival that's at cost. Which makes them unlikely to take the first steps towards a peaceful solution. Hence it comes to Western leaders to change the status quo.
It's a shame they're either too scared or too arrogant to recognize this.

>>72742952
oh snap :^)))

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>>72742963
This means Russia too.

Shown: SO WITHE RAEC MOSKAU
Not shown: the biggest mosque in Europe

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>Russia strong.

If Russia is such a threat, why aren't they increasing defense spending?
Their expenditure is lower than 2%

Fuck off. American protection isn't free.

>>72751784
did you even read the interview?

>>72744784
"Ewww britbong stronk and shiet!1!! We conquered middle ages tier cunts hundred years ago so we still can defeat everyone!"
Your time is over, mate. Deal with it.

>>72754321
Hmm yes not a single thought put towards the current state both our modern militaries. That famous Russian intellect strikes again

>>72738843
>in less than 6 months
That's not really good performance, you know. Germans did so in less than 5 months.

>>72756642
Were not a militaristic state full of hungry fantasists

>>72745176
Latino is not a race though.

>>72754321
lmao your 1940's tanks could get fucked by a single Abrams

>>72738760
Russia is a threat to all of Europe, regardless of whether one agrees with the statement or not.

>>72738843
Jesus Christ... Britbong conceit at it's finest.

>>72757524
Hush Mexico

>>72757605
you should hush, ignorant britshit, if you don't want to pay $60 billion brexit bill

>>72742952
btfo

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Exactly, we surely are a threat, guys. We have cuties and we're not going to share them, so that's the way cold war 2.0 is going to be ;)

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>>72756849
Yeah, but development gap increased since when.