Why do Russians think they are not white? link related ht

We don't consider ourselves "non-white", we consider ourselves non-european. Because our culture, traditions and mentality has a lot of Asian qualities to it.

>>72734147
Ethnic Russians and other Slavs are the most white. Western Europeans perverted xenophiles. Our culture is fundamentally different from Western Europe and Asia.

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Are you serious?

>>72737936
>russian.jpg
>Posts non-Russian
For what purpose?

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>>72734147
Only Nikita think that but Nikita is not Russian - he is Fingol

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>>72737907
> Ethnic Russians and other Slavs are the most white.
Why ethnic Russians behave like niggers then?
Russians are not slavs too. They are slavified mix of finno-ugrics and mongols.
>>72737969
He is Russian.

>>72737989
>like niggers
you don't need to be white, to be acting like a nigger. just look at poles and chavs.

>>72737989
>He is Russian.
>Refers to non-Russian
For what purpose?

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>>72737977
>>72737989
The Slavs colonized Asia. I think that you are Asian and try to justify yourself. But the Russians remained Slavs. See the genetic analysis.

>>72734147
>Why do Russians think they are not white?
We don't. Only some liberal scum and proxy-cockholes do.

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>>72738123
Right

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>>72737936
>>72737977
>>72737989
Here is the spread of Mongoloids.

>>72738188

Look closely - most of the Slavs in Russia.

>>72737989
me on the far right

Russians don't view themselves as European because of state propaganda.

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>>72738188
>Ukrainians tribe
>tribe
>Don't hear about Poljane tribe, Severjane tribe, Drevljane tribe etc
Kek, non educated cucks are non educated

>>72738208

Wrong map. If it was Mongoloid genetic share Finns and Russians would be in the 2-10 %.

t. scientific racist from /pol/

>>72738123

The Slavs penetrated deeply into the West. Where there are few Slavs, many dark people breed.

>>72738123
>>72738208
Haplogroups don't tell much about the genetic makeup of a population, an R1a man can be fully Mongolid and a C2 man can be fully Europid. Also there are many more Asiatic haplogroups than C2.

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>>72734147
>Russians
>white

>>72738123
Lol

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>>72734147
Not many people seriously think that. It's just that these "russians aren't white" threads are a bit old at this point. If people tell me that i'm not white i'm fine with that.

>>72738481
That "whiteness" thing is purely American concept. Because they lost their roots culture and ethnic identity and only skin color left.
In Europe different "white" countries/ethnicites are very different on many levels.

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>>72738311
Finno Ugri.
Yes. In the north, their weight is large. But they are whiter than your Spaniards, French and others, where 5-10% of niggas.

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>>72738553
>only skin color left
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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>>72738407
>Russians
>white

YES

>>72737167
I thought it was since you've always been isolated from western Europe, and you eventually just said fuck it and became your own thing when they didn't want you in their club.

>>72738392

If a white light-eyed man has a C haplogroup, then he is a mixture of nations. The converse is also true.

>>72738759
>you've always been isolated from western Europe
That's bullshit though.

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>>72738637

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>>72738717
Murikan racists know better who is white and who is not

>>72738797
Not completely, but there is a reason why the tsars tried to adopt western ideas and traditions.

>>72738717
His point is "white" is a pretty stupid concept. They even call "white" people "caucasian". This concept of whiteness is just a bit alien to russians, it's more about culture and traditions here.

>>72738759
We were part of the golden horde. Inherited their culture, type of governance.

>>72738856
Would you change it if you could into a proper western culture?

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>>72738981
No, we hate degenerate western "culture" with passion.

>>72738856
but that's incorrect. the Russian princes maintained their independence in exchange for tribute during the tatar yoke

>>72738856
We were not part of the golden horde. Finish your propaganda. If the Russian colonialists did not bring civilization to you, you would live in a yurt and run with a spear.

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>>72739047
weird thing i have herd this often enough and asked my friend who travels a lot due to his job which places where the most degenerate.

He said it was mostly third world shitholes, where you can do anything to anyone for the price of a few peanuts.

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>>72738981
For what purpose? Europeans are cucks. We don't want become cucks also. We happy to be Eurasian

>>72739047
>>72739122
But we also hate homosexual Western culture.

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SO WHITE

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>>72739193
Nikita, you forgot your pills

>>72738856
that's like saying armenians were part of the ottoman empire

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Russians, you only had to listen

>>72739375
Armenians were a part of the Ottoman Empire. At times an influential one

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>>72739375
They were. A lot of them lived all around ottoman empire in istanbul etc.

>>72739493
Paul 1 was better and more pro-european. That's why he was killed by mongoloid Russians.

>>72739532
Yep. Armenians and Greeks has been backbone of Ottoman Empire. When own Armenian nationalism grwon in XIX centyre - Ottoman Empire become ruined.

>>72738832
There's a cardinal difference between "being always isolated" from the Western Europe and adopting western ideas. Russia was never isolated from Europe, except for maybe in the XIII-XV centuries due to known events. This isolationist myth was created by Poles who were pushing their claims on inheritance of the Rus state through Grand Duchy of Lithuania and propagated the idea that Europe ends at their Eastern border beyond which there are only Mongols. By the XV century Russia was perfectly in contact with the Western Europe, as proven for instance by an example of Aristotele Fioravanti. And Catherine the Great letters to Voltaire and Diderot are one of the most illustrative example of this.

>>72739493
This faggot is responsible for both World Wars.

>>72739561
Paul and Peter III were the people Russia needed, but did not deserve

>>72739592
Not really the reason why. I was looking further in the past, but the period you're talking about is very complex for the Empire

>>72739726
His untimely death is the reason why Russia doesn't deserve greatness

>>72739784
Peter III and to a lesser extent Paul were autists unsuitable to rule any country.

>>72739837
>a man killed by his GERMAN wife is the reason why Russia doesn't deserve greatness
Really made me think.

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In Russia, Slavians Rus and Russians are clearly distinguishable. But in English they are equally written. This is not the same thing. In Russia, ~ 70% Slav Russian (European), other Westerners, Finns, etc. Asians are very few, they have bad conditions, and they do not breed well.
It is easy to distinguish Slavic Rus and other peoples. They are few but they are poorly assimilated. Because the Slavs and some minorities have strong nationalism.

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>>72739837
His unfortunate rule is the reason both World Wars happened. His deserved death is what allowed the true monarch to make Russia a truly great power.

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>>72739624
tfw live in medieval Russian port where Dutch/British/German quarters existed constantly

>>72739904
>a GERMAN man, killed by his GERMAN wife
Truly puzzling

>>72739997
>>72739884
Hello, Jerzy

>>72739550
>>72739561
>>72739592

The south of Russia and Ukraine suffered greatly from the attacks of the Mongols. You and your ancestors are the victims of those events. Пpoтив гeнeтики твoи дoвoды ничтo.

>>72739928
>In Russia, ~ 70% Slav Russian (European)
81% Russian and about 1.4% Ukrainian. Even more so by now with the accession of Crimea and all the refugees from Ukraine.

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>>72740022
In Russia Emperors don't have real power. Russian legions really easy "elect" new ones. Just traditions of Third Rome.

>>72740006
>medieval Russian port
Which one? Like in the White Sea?
>>72740076
Whatever that means, no need to be upset.

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>go to /int/
>realize slavs aren't white
>but that's okay because bulgarians aren't slavs
>but slavs aren't slavs either
>slavs are turk rapebabies, mongol rapebabies and kraut rapebabies
>realize slavs don't exist

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>>72740209
> Like in the White Sea?
Yep

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>>72740105
>1.4% Ukrainian
Much more. Most are just assimilated. In my school and uni classes and at work in Moscow up to 1/3 had Ukrainian surnames but fully russified.

>>72740105

In fact, less. Some want to be Russian and ascribe themselves to them. Most of the Ukroinians and Russians are one nation. Ukraine is an artificially created country.

>>72740289
>Ukrainian surnames
those would be -enko names?

>>72740351
In general ending with -o, -chuk, etc. And some cossack surnames which sound like nickname.
Most Russian surnames end with -in or -ov.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_surnames

>>72740237

It's you who are not Slavs, so you are not Bulgarians.

>>72734147
Slavs are not white nor asian.

>>72740513
>slavs can't be white
>but islands can be korean

really activated my cashews

>>72740289
>1926
>2017
Really made me think.
>The pronounce voiced glottal fricative G, they must be Ukrainian
Please, early USSR is known for its policies favouring any nationalism except for the Russian one and cutting RSFSR into bullshit "national republics". There was a good share of Ukrainians in Russia nevertheless, but their percent shrinked with the establishment of Ukrainian SSR and the end of the Civil War, and further so with the post-dissolution migration.

>>72740322
>In fact, less. Some want to be Russian and ascribe themselves to them.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

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>>72734147
>Russians
>white

>>72740237

Greetings fellow Mongol. Sad that Slavs don't exist but we can always go raid China.

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Kek, this Rusnya >>72740102 can't even compose a simple sentence on genetics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

>>72740653
don't bother asking. russian posters are terrible retards who think they have to live up to some retarded meme and give nothing but nonsensical """""philosophical"'""""" remarks in broken english

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>>72740680
>Americans
>Talking
>Typing
Every second you make sounds with your mouth or type a letter on a keyboard is a second spent not chewing on a burger or holding a burger. What are you, a commie?

>>72740582
>islands
What did you mean by this?

Western Europeans discuss the Slavs. They envy the whiteness of the body and soul of the Slavs. Because they are gradually assimilated by the Arabs. Westerners are weak and unable to protect themselves. The Slavs are an exceptional nation. Russia has won more than 95% of wars. Slavs are the hope of preserving white.

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>>72740698
hello my fellow horse lord. truly laughable how these servants posture on the interweb every time they feel safe from us. something must be done about this

>>72740830
are you denying that dokdo is korea?

>>72740997
You call for war.

>>72741081
man, shut the fuck up with your retarded faggot poseur shit and start posting like a normal person

>>72734147
cuz we live worse than 1st world

>>72742510

The Arabs will paint Germany and Scandinavia. Only Russia will remain.

>>72734147
I don't care if I'm white or not, honestly. But I most certainly don't consider myself European.

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Oh no, no those Asian "non-european" rapebabies again. I refuse to believe someone can be that stupid or troll that bad. Real Russians are a part of Europe and have absolutely nothing to do with Asian scum.

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>>72742566
>Only Russia will remain.

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>>72741536
We live worse then most of 3rd world too.

>>72742510
not sure why you think that matters. there are blond Mongolians too

Russians are a mixed race people

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>>72742510
cute

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>>72742723
What Kyivan Rus' has to do with so-called "Russia".

>>72742858
And I honestly think you should kill yourself in the most gruesome and painful way possible, you pathetic dimwit.

I've lived in Nigeria for 7 months (was doing some engineering work there via contract), traveled to Niger and Burkina Faso. You have no fucking idea how life in a true 3rd world country is. You're an ignorant ungrateful cunt

>>72742943
this. it's Ukrainian, Russians are Slavic-speaking Finngols

>>72742985
Do they have shit stalactites in nigeria too?
At least they have nice climate and no violent alcoholics like here.

>>72742943
Russia is basically a part of Kievan Rus and its colonies in the East.

>>72742878
>>72742909
>>72743016
Look at >>72738123
Everyone is mixed. And Westerners are more heterogeneous. Therefore they are so tolerant.

>>72743147
I'll take violent alcoholics any time over violent gangs and muslim terrorists who cause problems to local population every fucking day.

You really are hilariously ignorant, tovarisch

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>>72738188
>Hohols actually believe in this bullshit
Just can't make this up

>>72743236
But countries like Gabon looks better than most of the Russia. And have higher gdp/capita
http://www.tema.ru/eng/travel/gabon/

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>>72743306
>Gabon
>Looks like Russia
Gee I feel sorry you. You must be living in a really bad city.

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>>72743379
> there are no life behind MKAD

>>72739592
Nah the Ottoman Empire was on decline for a long time, there's a reason it was called the sick man of Europe in the 19th century and it's not because of Armenians.

>>72743439
Life is nice behind MKAD

t. Vladivostok-kun

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>>72743439
>I live in a shitty city hence every city is shit

>>72743439
>t. homogay from Moskvabad

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>>72743439
>He fell for le moscow meme

>>72743967
>hating gays
typical 3rd world nigger

>>72744020
>вьиcтaвoчний
what does this mean?

>>72743667
Looks like shit despite you took photo at night to hide grey ugly unrenovated commiesblocks.

>>72744070
Bыcтaвкa. Exhibition. From verb выcтaвлять.

>>72744070
*Bыcтaвoчный

Means showroom.

Whiteness is bullshit anyway. Who cares if Russians are "white", they've made great contributions to science, culture, and the arts.

>>72734147
live in asian republic in russia, 1% asian and 99% white is in my town, don't think so only shitposters and it because we are poor shithole,

>>72744164
>contributions to science, culture, and the arts.
Like what? Vodka, balalaika? Can you name single Russian inventor who weren't Jew, Pole, German or Ukrainian?
inb4 kalashnikov he just took stg44 design and used work of captured Germans work. He was named inventor for propaganda purposes.

>>72744164
>ARTS
Oh yeah, we made a great cyka blyat contribution to this idi nahui.

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>>72744079
Commieblocks are indeed ugly, but everything else looks fine. Not like Africa anyway.

>>72744079
true

>>72744114
so central exhibition hall then? we don't have that here, but that seems smart. we have some museums and "art halls" here that only allow for painting and drawings to be hosted. we should have had more generalized halls

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>>72744270
>or Ukrainian?
ahahahahaha hohols such hohols. Inventors of the humanity.
>>72744270
>>72744272
>I don't know my own history and I'm proud of it
Pathetic 2bh

>>72744340
Yeah, this thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Manege

>>72744376
Hello, Goblin's hamster.

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>>72744282
At least here they started to pain commieblocks. Still only part of them are painted.
>>72744340
There are several large exhibition halls in Moscow. That one right next to Kremlin and was opened in 1817

>>72744340
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Manege

>>72744270
Poles, Ukrainians and Russians are one Slavic race. Ask Google for "Russian Scientists". And where are you from? Why Russian flag?

>>72744472
Olya, calm down.

>>72744498
Tы нe oтвeтил нa мoй вoпpoc. Tы тpyc.

>>72744407
Have nothing to do with him. It's funny how you think that If I'm aware of a fact that hohols are just dirty useless pigs with a delusion of grandeur and aren't better than Russian bydlo that I'm a someone's hamster.

>>72744565
Ha кaкoй вoпpoc?

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>>72744417
I usually don't like it, but sometimes they do it fine.

>>72744615
Cмoтpи ->>> >>72744472

>>72744565
Кeкyc, oля дyмaeт чтo ecли ты pyccкий тo ты нe мoжeшь хeйтить бecпoлeзных пидopaшeк нa нeфтянoй peнтe.

>>72744690
Ecли тaк нeнaвиcтнa Poccия, пoчeмy бы тeбe нe cъeхaть кyдa пoдaльшe?

>>72745012
B пpoцecce дядя, cкopo бyдy пoд нeмeцким флaжкoм пиcaть.

>>72745012
Пoтoмy чтo oн бecпoлeзный yeбoк, кoтopый бoльшe нигдe нe нyжeн. Bce чтo oн мoжeт - этo кaк peйпфьюджи cвaлить кyдa-тo. Ho этo плoхaя лoгикa. Ecли тyт хyeвo, тo нaдo пoднимaть этoт вoпpoc чтoбы лyчшe былo, a нe гнaть вceх кoмy нe нpaвитcя.

>>72745012
Poccия впoлнe нopмaльнaя cтpaнa, ecли бы нe пpoмытoe гoвнo вpoдe тeбя, кoтopoгo тyт нaвaлoм.

>>72745069
Чтo ж, yдaчи! Haдeюcь вы yживeтecь c apaбaми-иcлaмиcтaми

>>72745202
Пoтoм тoлькo нaзaд пoбeгyт тaкиe кaк вы. Boт тoлькo нyжны ли вы бyдeтe?

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>>72745257
>apaбaми-иcлaмиcтaми
Гeйpoпa зaгнивaeт

>>72745311
Tы-тo кoмy здecь нyжeн, Пeтя? Чe дyмaeшь пpиcyнyл жиpнoй Клaвкe мeж бyлoк, нaбpaл кpeдитoв и cтaл нyжным этoй cтpaнe, чтo ли? Хyя ты нaивный.

>>72745257
Oля, я тeбe нaпoмню, в Mocквe кoличecтвo иcлaмиcтoв гopaздo бoльшe, чeм в кaкoм-нибyдь Лoндoнe или Бepлинe, кoтopым ты хyй чтo cкaжeшь.

>>72745360
Чтo ты вooбщe знaeшь, Oлeжa?

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>>72745069
Cкopo нeмeцкoгo флaжкa нe бyдeт вcя Eвpoпa бyдeт нaшa. B eвpaзийcкoм coюзe.

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>>72745359
Был в гepмaнии в пpoшлoм гoдy, пpимepнo в 12 paзных гopoдaх, cитyaция c apaбaми нe caмaя пpиятнaя, и этo yчитывaя дaжe тo чтo я в Mocквe живy, пoчeмy-тo пpинятo cчитaть, чтo тyт мнoгo хaчeй.
>>72745360
Я тeбe ceкpeт oткpoю, ты нигдe нaхyй никoмy нe нyжeн. Ho ecли y тeбя гдe-тo ecть гpaждaнcтвo, тo c тoбoй пpидeтcя cчитaтьcя.

Did Russia become more mongoloid after WW1 and WW2?

>>72745484
After the Golden Horde. And more un-Russian after 1917.

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>>72742943
>Pycь кaкaя былa?
Pyccкaя, нeyч хyeв.
>During its existence, Kievan Rus' was known as the "land of the Rus'" (Old East Slavic: Pѹ́cьcкaѧ зeмлѧ, from the ethnonym Pѹ́cь; Greek: Ῥώς; Arabic: الروس ar-Rus), in Greek as Ῥωσία, in Old French as Russie, Rossie, in Latin as Russia (with local German spelling variants Ruscia and Ruzzia), and from the 12th century also Ruthenia.[2]
>The term "Kievan Rus'" (Ки́eвcкaя Pycь Kievskaya Rus’) was coined in the 19th century in Russian historiography to refer to the period when the centre was in Kiev.[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27#Name

>>72745525
I don't get the meme that tsarist Russia was like 100% pure Russian. Catherine the great was German and plenty ministers were non-Russian, I'd say it was about as Russian as the Soviet Union, communists just gave minorities more rights because of their political views.

>>72745635
Tsarist Russia was about Russians and Europeans while USSR was about LETS MESS EVERYTHING UP FROM MOSCOW TO FAR EAST!

>>72745692
>and Europeans
But we're not europeans.
Stop roleplaying that austism.

>>72745768
This is the last (you) I gave you, retarded Asian rapebaby.

>>72745692
I don't know what you mean by messing everything up but tsarist Russia was definitely more aesthetic, I'll give you that.

>>72745692
USSR was about "let's cut Russia into pieces so that all small "oppressed" "nations" could have their share of the "oppressor's" clay".

>>72745768
>But we're not europeans.
You sure are not. However Russians are.

>>72745869
Something like he said
>>72745869
They destroyed Russain culture and made Soviet culture instead.

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>>72745825
Stop.

>>72745923
But at least average people's lives were much better, in tsarist Russia you'd probably be a serf, whereas in the ussr you could've been a doctor.

>>72745907
We re Europeans, but the mentality is unique.

>>72745923
They were suppressing Russian culture, but they did not destroy it.

>>72746020
Serfdom was abolushed in 1861. And peasants in Russian Empire lived much better then under communism under collectivization and holodomor.
And in late Empire they could study. My greater grandpa was from village and he studied in Peterburg and become school teacher. There was such program to improve literacy stipendies to train teachers. Other served in army and become Podporuchik.

>>72745907
You know nothing about me so your opinions is kinda "meh" tier.
I'm not of those who loves to hate Russia and make it seems worse that it really is. Not the liberal.
But in the same time, i really believe that we are not a part of Europe. And that's fine. Just like Finns - they're living definitely better but they're not trying to cover it with
>MUH EUROPEAN EDUCATION
>MUH EUROPEAN HEALTHCARE
>MUH EUROPEAN STANDARTS
>MUH EUROPEAN VALUES
>MUH EU...
Because they're not european and it doesn't makes them worse.
Plus, as we can see through the history, slavs (i'm talking about slavs in general) did a good things by uniting the peoples under one flag. And it seems like a legit reason of their success. So.. why not?
If you're of those poltard with "muh race" and shit then yes - this discussion is pointless and we can stop it right now.

>>72746100
Every mentality is unique.

>>72746020
Yeah, you could be a doctor but get nothing for it since there is no money and goods in the country. If a communist revolution had happened in Africa there would have been a shortage of sand in two weeks. Also, slavery was abolished in 1861.

>>72746020
And being doctor in ussr and Russia is awful. Hard to study, stressful work, shitty equipment and pay is shit. Doctors are poor people here. Starving. It's not the west.

>>72746147
You said you are not Europeans. This is rather enough to conclude you are not Russians either, since Russians are Europeans.

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>>72746100
>He doesn't know that Europe is actually pretty diverse land. Even different regions of one country could be unique.

>>72746128
>collectivization and holodomor
That was only 1930s tho
Granted early Soviets were incompetent as fuck

>>72746226
That's your argument? Pathetic.

>>72746334
Just like your existence :^)

>>72746284
No life in villages became semi-tolerable only in 70's. They still were almost not paid(except specialists like mechanizers) but allowed to grow a bit food for themselves and have some animal.
Do you know that people in soviet villages had no IDs. They couldn't leave village. They were literally slaves.
Also there were famines during civil war and after ww2 too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1946%E2%80%9347

>>72746370
>You can not attack an idea - attack the thinker
Cool story, Bob.

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>>72746440
You don't have an idea. At all.

>>72746505
If you're mentally blind - that's your problem.

>>72746334
It's your shitposting that is pathetic. My argument just stresses this.
>>72746440
>He thinks his shitposting is an "idea" and that he is a "thinker"
Lol.
>>72746390
Post-WWII famine was caused by, surprise-surprise, WWII and had nothing to do with collectivisation or the so-called "Holodomor" fairy tale.

>>72746580
And if you colour yourself as a thinker and your shitposting as an idea it doesn't make it true.

>>72746641
My idea based on the history.
>Serbia: dacians and slavs
>Bulgaria: bulgars and slavs
>Russia: finns and slavs (later - tatars, caucasians etc)
>Great Moravia: germans and slavs
>etc
So, as i said, they did a good thing by uniting the peoples under one flag. This is the first part.
Another part is the fact that Russia have 50/50 eu/asian lands. And of course, there was mutual cultural influence. You can't deny that mentality of russians are different from other europeans (which are more or less similar to each other).
That's the thing. We're not europeans and not asians. And there's nothing bad with uniting.
Here's my idea. And what's yours?
>lol shitpost
>i said you wrong because you're wrong lol
As i said, pathetic.

>>72746895
>Another part is the fact that Russia have 50/50 eu/asian lands.
And 80% of Russia is a colony of the another part, which is 100% European.
>You can't deny that mentality of russians are different from other europeans (which are more or less similar to each other).
>t. never been to any European country. Probably have never left his muhosransk

>>72747009
>let me tell about you and knowledges that you have
You know nothing about me (2)

>>72747123
But I can make conclusions from what you wrote. And, since you wrote some real bullshit, your knowledge is irrelevant and it's very probably that you're a stupid shitposter or just very dumb fuck who lives in his imaginary world.

>>72747249
it's very probable*

>>72746895
>Russia have 50/50 eu/asian lands
No, it does not. IIRC geographically it is 25% in Europe and 75% in Asia, with 75% of population living in the European part. Ethnically Russia is over 81% Russian and over 83% European. When it comes to mentality, every nation has its unique one. Russians are as far from Germans in this regard as Germans are from Italians. That's the thing. Russians are Europeans. Deal with it.
>Here's my idea
Your idea is euroasiatic bullshit that contradicts with objective reality and has no place in it.

>>72747123
>You know nothing about me (2)
You said you are not Europeans. This is rather enough to conclude you are not Russians either, since Russians are Europeans.

>>72747249
>you're wrong
>why
>because it's bullshit
>why
>because you're wrong
You need to point on real subjects and examples. Saying "you're wrong" and "you're text is bullshit" is not an argumentation.
Pathetic (3)
>>72747388
>objective reality and has no place in it
Same for you.
Objective reality it's a thing that you can't even explain. You can only say that "there's some objective reality and your idea doesn't fit in it". Not an argumentation.
Pathetic (4)

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So called "Ruskies" are just pale shitskins.

>>72747655
>Same for you.
I posted facts. You posted "muh opinion". Russians are Europeans, deal with it.

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>>72747388
Europeans try to brainwash as that we are Europeans to turn our children gay with sex education and males into cucks.
Because they fear strong Russia with traditional values and high military technologies.
Just like they lie about Putin and our system non-stop in your degenerate media.

>>72747846
>it is 25% in Europe and 75% in Asia
Okay.
>with 75% of population living in the European part
Okay.
>Ethnically Russia is over 81%
Ethnically, everybody can write "russian" in their documents. That's the fact.
>and over 83% European
How it was calculated? They're took all people and made DNA analysis? Do you understand that's stupid?
>When it comes to mentality, every nation has its unique one. Russians are as far from Germans in this regard as Germans are
Yes, but we don't like "european values" while other europeans hate us for that in one hegemony. Does it mean something? I think yes.
>Russians are Europeans
Not mentally. And exactly mentality guides the nation. That's the thing.

>>72748145
Ethnically, everybody can write "russian" in their documents >>72740653
>How it was calculated?
Russians, Ukrainians, Germans, etc. Like I said, with accession of Crimea and refugees from Ukraine it's even more European now.
>Yes, but we don't like "european values"
Not all Europeans like them either. Because they are not "European values", they are liberal values, leftist values, rightist values, whatever. Europe is not a country, it's a whole bunch of countries that are different from each other.
>Not mentally
Every mentality is unique. Russians are Europeans and therefore their mentality is European.
Anyway, I don't have time for your russophobic bullshit.

>>72748330
>I don't have time
Then let's finish it.
> for your russophobic bullshit
Hell no. I'm not russophobe. I'm just not a WHITEWARRIOR1488. That's it.

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>>72748330
>it's even more European now.
ato