>"Universal healthcare is good! People should have a

>"I think free market principles apply to healthcare"
>"I shop around for hospitals when having a heart attack"

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the plan that saved healthcare

1. life saving procedures, medications, etc are subsidized

2. everything is is paid for by the patient

>>72583499
take off your proxy cleetus

>>72583586
You can shop around for insurance

>>72583586
>"I wait 20 hours in line to get seen for stab wounds"

>>72583708
>"I wait 20 years to get out of medical debt because my insurer jewed me again"

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>>72583499

>>72583835
>"I die in the waiting room because my cuckold country is retarded"

>>72583708
Whatever calms your autism m8

>>72583873
see>>72583627

>>72584008
That's not an argument. Healthcare in Canada is shit.

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>>72583708
speaking of lines,

last week I posted images of my nearest ER's wait times (almost never goes above 15 mins) and someone mentioned I should check on a monday.

Well I checked on monday and it was normally less than a 10 minute wait, including 3 minute wait at 5pm (3min is lowest they go as a time estimate for paperwork I believe)

so if that person happens to be around, there you go

Universal health care amounts to your ERs being swamped with pooskins and slant eyes carrying tuberculosis and other diseases long since eradicated in the developed world.

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>>72583708
You can't be serious right now

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>>72583499
>letting your grandma die because you are too poor and the treament would throw your family into debt spiral
vs.
>letting you grandma NOT die because you pay your taxes and the state covers majority of healthcare bills

>>72588109
>letting your grandma NOT die because you have insurance and the company pays for the majority of it and you have a nice salary to afford it

>>72588109
The US basically has free healthcare for the elderly.

>>72588328
literally the worst group to give free healthcare to
if you give young people free healthcare, they'll be more healthy and able to work and pay taxes and usually pop out a few more future tax payers
if you give old people free healthcare, they will just die a little later with more expensive maladies to come
is this why everyone hates obamacare? in germany, old people have to pay more if they chose a non-statutory health insurance

>>72589304
Yeah but old people play off the sympathy card.

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>>72588109
reality is:
>letting your grandma die because even when you pay the taxes because the state provided service is inefficient due to useless dindus exploiting it and delaying it for people who really need it just so they can cheat da systum and get a bunch of shekels when suing the government for providing terrible service.

>>72589784
He looks sleepy

>>72589304
Wrong

The young (<35) mostly don't need any healthcare other than a coverage for catastrophic events ( accidents and such)

The elderly, who have worked and have contributed to Medicare deserve healthcare when they need it the most. The system we had before Obamacare would have been perfect if it were not for the millions of undocumented people leeching of our medical system.

>>72583499
>"People should have duties but no basic rights"

>>72583499
>Why can't we go back to the days when poor people didn't matter

>>72590087
>>>r/socialism

>>72590462
>It's annoying that poor people are even allowed to vote

>>72583586
Obviously, this is a mischaracterization of arguments in favor of using free market principles to improve healthcare. Many advocates suggest greater price transparency for routine procedures and checkups, preferably with fixed and published prices for the most common procedures. This would force hospitals to compete more directly and allow patients/consumers to make purchase decisions with full knowledge. This would be combined with changing the primary purpose of health insurance to cover rare or unexpected conditions and emergencies more like insurance for other things. Just as car insurance doesn't cover the wheels wearing down or the belts needing to be replaced, just as home insurance doesn't cover reshingling the house or repainting the walls, health insurance does not work when it covers routine maintenance and checkups. Many of these routine tasks don't require a full hospital with all of its equipment and specialists, they can be performed by GPs in small specialized offices. The current system is a travesty and exists more for the welfare of the insurance companies rather than the the benefit of the people and needs to be changed. Hopefully the new system will fix some of the issues seen in other countries and bring our system up the the level of the rest of the developed world's. I don't know nearly enough about Canada's system to comment on it.

>>72590812
>If u dont agree with me you hate poor people, also probably gays and blacks

appeal to emotion is not an argument

>>72590891
>isn't it better when everyone agrees with me that poor people are sub-human?

>>72591021
>It's so easy to argue when you just greentext the person's post and then exaggerate what they're saying to make them look crazy and irrational

>>72589872
>The young (<35)
I'm 29 and suddenly I felt my youth almost gone.

>>72591227
time to stop suckling those teets la

Healthcare shouldn't cover check-ups and basic things.
Government should only cover herd immunity practices.
Healthcare should only cover emergency events.

You wouldn't use car insurance on a flat tire, etc.

>>72591816
check ups should be encouraged tbqh, also taking preventative measures should be the norm.

>>72591085
But that's literally the implication of what you're saying though, whether you want it or not.

>>72590087
You ever read Bertrand Russell's "The Superior Virtue of the Oppressed"? He ridicules the idea that the poor and oppressed are more moral people than the rest of us simply by virtue of being poor and oppressed.

>if I put it in greentext with an angry frog next to it then it's automatically wrong

>>72592052
I need to read this actually.

Was never a huge fan of the "rich people are eviiil they'll screw you over for money!" when they need money a lot less than some poorfag who would gladly sell you down the river for $500.

>>72591816
but people can be really poor, not afford checkups, and then require very expensive emergency care that could've been prevented

also tons of burger sharters give themselves heart attacks

>>72592052
I don't think that's what he was getting at m8. Both rich and poor, regardless of perceived moral superiority, should have access to some level of medical care (especially in emergencies).

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>>72592319
>Both rich and poor, regardless of perceived moral superiority, should have access to some level of medical care (especially in emergencies).

>>72592319
You get what you can pay for. This is an iron law of human society.

>>72591816
well considering you can lower your premiums on insurance by doing things that lower the risk of you getting sick/injured. Gym memberships on the top of my head

>>72592423
kek, I wish I could give zero fucks like Max

>>72592473
>people who have less money don't deserve any healthcare treatment whatsoever

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>>72592800
Correct. Poor people deserve to burn

>>72590087
>Believing in a free system means you hate the poor

Dumbass

>>72591816
But the health of a human is much more important than any material possessions like your cars or furniture.

>>72592800
You can get health care alright if you're poor, it just won't be as good.

>>72592909
>poor people can only have access to a qualified nurse 1x per decade, it's the iron law of society

>>72593028
you can stop greentexting now

>>72592883
There's several billion people in the world. We're relatively disposable.

>>72583499
(You)

>>72592117
Check ups rarely produce people who follow preventitive care. That has to be taught throughout your life, usually by your parents
But making the price of check up visits transparent and comparable would reduce the cost of them.

>>72593066
>I'm sick of being told about poor people

>>72592883
>But the health of a human is much more important than any material possessions like your cars or furniture.

That's an awfully good spook there.

>>72583499
fuck off

>>72593059
>developed First World countries have the healthiest, fittest people
Stop the presses.

>>72593113
Why do you keep quoting what I think?

Poors belong in gas chambers, I'm not ashamed to admit it. You sound like a butthurt poor lol

>>72593169
Nah more like some leftist university student living off his rich parents' money.

>>72592319
Sure just show me the part of the Constitution that says that

>>72593086
>We're relatively disposable.
Well, if you only think about humans as a ressource but even then you'd want to preserve your ressources because they're virtually limited.

>>72593169
>A person's finances determine whether I treat them as humans or not

>>72593158
The US barely made the list and is on par with Costa Rica, Chile, and Croatia

>>72593278
CORRECT ONCE AGAIN

>>72593169
>lol just kill all the poor ppl xDDddD
not an argument

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>>72583499

>good
>rights

>>72593267
>if it's not in the US constitution, then it doesn't matter

I vote to make you give me your money

>>72593299
Gas all niggers and then get rid of farm subsidies on fat and sugar. That will fix pretty much everything.

>>72592883
Havijg check ups covered by insurance only hurts poor people who need lower rates when they're actually hurt. Reducing the barrier to entry to administering preventative care and not attaching it to insurance saves everyone money.

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>>72593314
>Poors deserve rights because they just do

Not an argument :')

>>72589939
>healthcare is a right
https://youtu.be/dr4TZMPmbuw

>>72593305
>A random internet stranger can parrot my edgy personal philosophy without much thought whatsoever

>>72593339
It matters but its not the governments job to pay for your healthcare. That's your own responsibility and there are many charities that can help

easist fix:

government pays a certain percent of the cost depending on your income, no matter the expense, kind of like tax brackets but the poor get more assistance

then that percent is scaled based on how necessary the treatment is

>>72593327
good post

>>72593398
(((Ben Shapiro)))

>>72593370
doesn't matter if me or you think that, society as a whole thinks that so it's the way it is

>>72593403
stay poor and crying lol

this time spent weeping could be better spent working, maybe you'd get less poor

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>>72590823
Wew lad

>>72593414
>It's not the government's job to look after it's citizens, that's why there's no publicly funded police, firefighters, army, court system, roads in civilised countries.

>>72593416
The easiest fix is removing government completely from healthcare, not creating a second legion of beaureaucrats to rival the IRS you fucking spic

>there are people who unironically oppose free healthcare
cannot fabricate

>>72593508
Constitution says the government is supposed to do those things. It does not say government is supposed to gib healthcare.

>>72593441
What you are not going to listen to his argument because "lel he is le internet meme"? Listen to him and disprove his argument if you have any credibility.

>>72593550
>There are people who unironically support free healthcare

cannot fabricate

>>72593493
He's unironically correct

>>72593366
Having regular checkups is important. If you limit the checkups to 1 every 2 years there will be no abuse.

>>72593398
Well, it depends on the values of your society of course. If you value human beings highly you'll do everyting you can to keep them healthy, fed, with basic education and whatnot.

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>>72593550
>free

>>72593461
>I take this internet stuff really seriously so don't try and satirise me or I'll hit you with my really witty and unnerving insults and projections about who you are.

>>72583708
>let's de facto deny people healthcare so we don't have to wait as long
Brilliant

>>72593568
you're not canadian

i bet you're some queerbec weirdo or worse an immigrant, god forbid, maybe even a yank

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>>72593599
the point isn't that it's free

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>>72593599
ah yes, america

>>72593629
You're not a brit

I bet you're a paki rapist or worse a loo, god forbid maybe even a pole

>>72593599
>land of the free

>>72593556
>The US constitution (known as a global authority on human rights and not a document framing the basis of a government) specifically mentions that US citizens are entitled to publicly funded roads and firefighters.

>>72583873
t. the albertan dixiefag

>>72593662
free healthcare is a cornerstone of anglo civilisation

it's one of many reasons why yanks aren't anglo
and why you quite clearly aren't either

>>72593722
>free

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>>72593722
>Being anglo is inherently a good thing

ah yes great honor

>>72593756
called it

queerbeccer or an immigrant

>>72593659
Americans get overwhelmingly fucked because they pay into the NIH which funds most of the medical research for the entire world.

>>72593882
Anglos are subhuman and deserve to die

>>72593919
I'm guessing Indian or Pakistani?

>>72593919
I'm guessing quebecois because you don't seem as intelligent as an immigrant

>>72588213
I'm gonna be real with you Anon. You pay for it either way. Either Cletus and Jamal get government healthcare...
or they wait and wait and wait until it's a life-threatening medical emergency, go the ER, get healed for many the times the cost if it had been treated early or NOT in an emergency fashion... but of course Cletus and Jamal can't pay, so it gets written off and we the taxpayers pick up the tab.

Just fucking stop paying the insurance Jew and admit that socialized medicine works. Any money you save from taxes by NOT having universal healthcare is negated by insurance and taxes from poor people medical write-offs.

Also, there's something perverse about a company that makes its profits by how many sick people it DOESN'T help. Wouldn't you agree?

>>72593965
Anglos are literally faggots and their """"culture""""" is shit lmao

That's why all the anglos on this board alwats spam homosexual and "trap" threads or always make some retarded communist idiocy shilling threads

>>72594035
POO

>>72594183
Yes, that is a common fetish among fags.

>>72594196
and, from what I have heard, something that Indians do in public

>>72594276
You would know, you do let them into your country because of "muh anglo tolerance"

>>72594294
Well I never seen an Indian doing it here tbf. Maybe it's the weather.

>>72594356
You don't leave your house because in typical Anglo fashion you masturbate to "traps" and play videogames all day.

>>72594385
Wish I had enough free time to do that desu. What do you do all day?

Incentivise insurance plans that are proven to reduce spending. health-savings + big deductable, money-back plans etc.

End healthcare negotiations between insurers and hospitals. Hospital charge set rates they must publish.

Inroduce a mandatory health database. All people, all electronic. I can already here Alex Jones screaming. lol

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>>72583627
>implying Americans don't want and need healthcare

>>72590823
USE PARAGRAPHS YOU NIGGER

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>>72594007
And how do you propose to pay for said socialized medicine?

I hope america scraps government health care so those fat idiots can die in the streets like the dogs they are. The world needs fewer Yankees

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>>72597559
Why the self-hate, fellow American?

>>72583499
people who are against universal healthcare are paid shills from the funeral market who are threatened by people not dieing.

>>72597615
Aaw did i hurt your feelings? Id say visit a psychiatrist but youll have to mortgage you house for the 3rd time to afford it.

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>>72597696
Sick burn Canada, too bad I live in a state with nationalized healthcare.

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>>72597781
Congratulations on not being retarded. Given your cunt thats a serious accomplishment

>>72597696
Better than waiting years in line.

>>72598036
Quit being a melodramatic faggot. Nobody waits that long.

>>72598072
We literally scored the worst for waiting times out of 11 industrialized countries.

>>72598100
Yet we have some of the highest rates a satisfaction. Really tickles the tendies huh?

Of course, everyone else should pay for me :^)

>>72598133
[Citation needed]

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>Why yes, of course I am poor

>>72597448
Length of the post is only unusual if you are a phone poster and used to paragraph breaks every 2-3 sentences to pander to your pathetic attention span. Nine sentences is not unreasonably long for a paragraph unless you're used to grade school level writing. If you are, I see no reason why I should care about your opinions on a topic as complex as healthcare.

Here, let me put it in terms you'll understand:
>Canadian education

>>72598401
Well im at work on my phone so that'll do it. Wait...you're not browsing this shithole for free are you?

>>72598452
>it's 10pm
>he's still at work

Wtf do you work at McDonald's?

>>72598473
I work in a call centre. I asked to be on the afternoon shift. Waking up at 11 and going to work is fuckin lit. Fuck getting up early

>>72598509
>call center

What the heck man that's for pajeets... And who are you calling that late at night. Or is it inbound

>>72598545
Its inbound only and a government job so its mostly good white folk

>>72598565
>he gets $30/hour to answer phones
Delete this...

But how can I get such a job too? Do I need to b black transgender?

>>72598612
Lel it may be government but i only make $14/h. On the plus side I get paid to shitpost when nobodys calling. You need to apply and not be autistic.

>>72598680
The swear I never GET a straight white male without disabilities as a gov employee. I don't know if it's quotas or what.

>>72598746
I work for the provincial government, not the feds.

>>72583499
good news is trumpcare is in limbo.
the orange retard and his cronies fucked up again.

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>>72598792
Niggercare is dug in deep. It will be hard to remove this whole clusterfuck, since the Dems intended it to be exactly that. Also a lot of the GOP are essentially useless RINOs and more of an impediment to Trump than anything.

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Imagine how much of a bowtie wearing dipshit you have to be to live in one of those easymode social democracy countries and be mad about it.

Imagine how much autism you need to have to wish more of life was full of anxiety and ruthless competition just because it might be 2% more efficient.

Just imagine it.

>>72598831
>the Democrats intended to make their grand creation a disaster
This is unironically what republiniggers think

>>72598854
>>72598854
>This is what berniebots think

>>72598831
>700 page document
>lyl we don't even know what's in it, guess we'll have to pass it to find out

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>mfw a Brit unironically defends the NHS

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>>72599663
Fuck right off you southern nancy cunt

>>72600000
>no argument

>>72600000
OOOOOOOOO

>>72600074
*Meme*
>Mfw blah blah
Is that good enough?

>>72583499
Well.. no idea why it is that bad in the US.
Overall I would say that just paying what I need is cheaper than paying for every retard and what not, but seeing what americans pay for minor shit in the hospital... wtf?
Seriously, I need a new elbow soon. Pretty sure that would cost me $50.000+ in the US. Here I don't even care. I pay my few hundret euros and I am good.
Really not sure if healthcare gets a good price here with their might while in the US docs just take what they want...

>>72600000
IS NOBODY GONNA LOOK AT YOUR DIDGETS?

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When will the Americans realise that all inclusive Healthcare is FREE, thats why we brought it out in 1948. We pay a nominal National Insurance Surcharge, which helps pay towards the service. Americans.... What is SOCIALIST about that?

>>72600197
>TFW food and houses will never be free too

Why is anything charged at all for things? You literally can't give me a reason besides greed. Smdh

>>72600197
You didn't have millions of subhuman shitskins in 1948.

>>72600228
Break my arm, get Cancer, have a Baby....its paid for. Unlike the USA, where people are bankrupted because they can't afford the Medical Expenses.

>>72600238
American Hospitals are marvellous. Just can't afford the bloody treatments they are charging.

>>72600267
>>72600289
people have insurance you know. They don't literally pay $100,000 for a surgery out of pocket.

>>72600238
Not to mention way less old people racking up vast medical expenses.

>>72600328
To be honest, the National Health Service is slightly under strain. But its the best we have.... and we don't let people die on the streets like the USA.

>>72600365
>and we don't let people die on the streets like the USA.

Again. That doesn't happen, hospitals can't turn people away. They treat even illegal immigrants or the homeless.

>>72600197
During the same period, President Truman proposed the creation of a national health program like was being done in Europe, but it met with resistance and he dropped the idea.

>>72600390
The Drug Companies and Insurance Companies run American Healthcare. Even when I worked at Home Depot, my co-pay was ridiculous.

>>72600438
Not really because after Truman's proposed national health service was dropped, most of the burden of health insurance was pushed onto private companies. This wasn't an issue of course in the postwar boom years when we had money to burn and could afford to give a floor worker a middle class salary+pension.

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>>72600528
>Slav
>Fraser "Institute"
>Margaret Thatcher
Out, nigger

>Get sick
>Can't afford health insurance because you can't work
>Get sicker
Why do Americans defend literal serfdom?

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>>72600669
shut up retard

Canadian healthcare on suicide watch

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>>72597674
This.

>>72600713
>adults in the United States are far more likely than those in 10 other high-income nations to go without needed health care because of costs and to struggle to afford basic necessities such as housing and healthy food.
>The survey findings also indicate that Americans are sicker than people in other countries and experience high levels of emotional distress.
>about one-third (33%) of U.S. adults went without recommended care, did not see a doctor when sick, or failed to fill prescriptions because of cost. By comparison, as few as 7 percent in the U.K. and Germany and 8 percent in the Netherlands and Sweden experienced these cost problems.
>The U.S. also stands out for its exceptionally high rate of material hardship. Fifteen percent of U.S. adults reported worrying about having enough money for nutritious food and 16 percent reported struggling to afford their rent or mortgage.
>Adults in the U.S. were also the most likely to be in poor health. More than a quarter (28%) of U.S. respondents reported having multiple chronic illnesses—by far the highest rate of any country surveyed
>Fifty-one percent of U.S. adults struggled to find care in the evenings and weekends without going to a hospital emergency department. Between 40 percent and 64 percent of adults in all other countries reported similar difficulties.
>U.S. adults have timely access to specialists. Only 6 percent reported waiting longer than two months for an appointment. In Germany, France, the Netherlands, and Switzerland, rates were similar, ranging from 3 percent to 9 percent.

Basically America spends more for poor to average healthcare. Good to see those free market principals are working!

>>72600669
>>72600909
>Pay more
>Fewer people have healthcare
>Have limits on how much you can spend
>Don't go to doctor so premiums don't rise

>>72600909
>The survey findings also indicate that Americans are sicker than people in other countries

>>72593352

Why doesn't anyone on /int/ have ANY idea how America works?

Redpill me on our horrible healthcare system. Suppose I am from Mars and know nothing. (And I really know very little but we never had any problems with our medical insurance). I don't really know anyone struggling to pay their medical bills.

>>72589939
Basic rights is for people who value human life. Some countries, such as the ones some anons in this thread are posting from, do not value human life.

>>72601015
Also I'm not buying the Brit leftist's copypaste because the UK has the poorest health conditions of any Western European cunt and the highest rates of diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, etc.

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>>72600990
Sorry lad, you still lose. In fact, its less of an excuse than other countries.

>>72601015
Why do you defend this feudalism bullshit? You sure as fuck aren't benefiting from it, you're just shilling for the Jews... FOR FREE. And that's just sad

>>72601052
Their NHS is a joke and they know that and always post about that. So it is not that they dont know how America works. They don't want to know since it is just "bantz".

>>72593086
Fun fact: The top 1% of earners who will never be able to spent a good 50% of their wealth could donate that money towards a universal minimum wage, which would dramatically increase the well being and productivity of billions of individuals for at least the next 100 years.
Humans matter. Without them you wouldn't have electricity, food, shelter or running water.

>>72601077
It has more to do with cultural habits than the NHS, namely that the British diet is quite horrible compared to the diet in France, Spain, etc. Britain has more income inequality and higher poverty rates than many of those cunts as well, but that's neither here nor there.

>>72601065
>aren't benefiting from it,
Unless you make a minimum wage, of course you are benefiting from it. You have access to the best health care in the world and you can afford it. The universal healthcare would be it affordable for everyone but also shitty as fuck. Just look at the UK. You will die waiting for your surgery.

>>72601122
I know, I know. The world's wealth should be redistributed to Nbu and Walid because white people are bad and evil.

>>72601122
>Fun fact: The top 1% of earners who will never be able to spent a good 50% of their wealth could donate that money towards a universal minimum wage, which would dramatically increase the well being and productivity of billions of individuals for at least the next 100 years.

That would be antisemitic.

Also that wouldn't be anywhere fucking close to enough for billions of individuals for 100 years. Are you a retard?

>>72601123
NHS = long waits, hard to get a referral, horrible crowded facilities full of ugly people waiting in line, etc. 3rd world tier, really. No thanks.

>>72601122
WTF are you talking about. They donate to charity more than you will ever earn in your entire life. Not just you. Literally everyone in your cunt and their uncle.

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>>72601122
The top 10 richest people in the world have $600 billion dollars.

Even if we gave away ALL of their money it would hardly do shit.

>top 1% of earners
I think you're strongly overestimating how much the top 1% of earners are.

I'm a fucking poorfag and this shit says I'm in the top 14% richest in the world, for example.

>>72601231
It works in top earning nations. Poor countries need to build up 1st

>>72601231
The fucking kikes should give away ALL of their money now! And give it to the jealous Australian neets posting on /int/.

> wait times
Just get an appointment, duh.

>>72601286
yeah, appt in 6 months.
wait times means there is a waiting list for lots medical procedures there.
in other words you will die waiting for your surgery in the socialist paradise

>>72601326
source?

>>72601326
Why don't they just hire more doctors, then? They're missing out on more surgery dosh.

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>>72601286
>>72601326
>>72601341
>>72601386
http://www.waittimealliance.ca/

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>>72601393
>>72601286
>>72601326
>>72601341
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/wait-times-for-medical-procedures-at-20-year-high-in-canada-study/article33001028/

>>72601341
google nhs wait times. it is literally all over your media. you pretend you dont know that?

>>72601386
key, they are broke

>>72601419
>Broke
Says you>>72600669
We simply lack enough doctors.

>>72601467
>Simply

Why is it so simple then? Should be as easy as just letting more doctors go to medical school here, right?

>>72601419
>nhs wait times
yeah people with serious illnesses come first

what's wrong with that?

millions of americans die every year because of your shitty system

>>72601565
>millions of americans die every year because of your shitty system

[citation required]

I already told you that hospitals cannot refuse to treat patients.

>>72601492
Very few people actually can get into medical school and even fewer have the patience to get a degree. Something that might work is making medical school free and basically paying people a monthly fee to go.

>>72601581
thanks to obama

>>72601591
>Very few people actually can get into medical school and even fewer have the patience to get a degree

The reason so few can get in is because of retarded requirements.

That's why so many qualified Canadians go to the US for medschool and/or residency. There's like a few hundred spots per year for some really retarded reason

>>72601633
Nah it's been that way since long before Niggy.

>>72601633
It feels like you get your whole view of how America works from /int/ golden lel threads made by Australians.

>>72601581
Non-emergency people can be delayed

>>72601565
The problem in the US is that people with chronic problems can either pay or not. So you have people that'll have to live with. Then there's deductibles(the amount your health insurance gives you) and those run out. Then you get to put yourself in million dollar+ debt, live with it if it's not instantly fatal

In social countries you'll eventually get your turn eventually.

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PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE FUCKING WAGIE SCUM REEEE

>>72601746
why is his head so small

>>72601492
Everyone just runs abroad. There's a reason the smalelr provinces literally go on their knees and give you free shit and a blow job if you work in their and ESPECIALLY if you work in certain areas.

>>72601845
So then it's not simple and there's a reason people flee.

>>72601898
Canada has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world. Naturally there aren't enough people born here and those who are go to big cities in the bigger provinces. There's a reason why Sasketchewan and Manitoba literally had to open up their immigration rules. They were on the verge of collapse and facing massive depopulation and are now 2 of the faster growing provinces % wise. Have a targeted focus on making Halifax a major city and the atlantic provinces will fix themselves

>>72602031
Even in bc and ON there's jack shit for med schools.

>>72601724
>Then there's deductibles(the amount your health insurance gives you)

that's not what a deductible is

>>72583708
Do canadian hospitals not give immediate treatment to life threatening injuries?

>>72602534
They do, that guy is just retarded

>>72583586
fpbp

burger fags btfo

>>72593059
>it's another chile is developed episode

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>>72600267
>have a Baby

Speaking of that

> be American
> have medical insurance
> denied treatment because they discover you had an insignificant yeast infection years ago

Yay, health care. How do you even sleep at night knowing that your insurance company goes out of its way to screw you over in any way possible?

>>72601467
>Simply lack enough doctors
Huh, I wonder why that could be. Could it be that artificially lowered salaries for doctors disincetivize otherwise talented individuals from becoming doctors?

>dumb muricunts bitching about wait times

Queues are intentional and intended to stop people (old people usually) from getting unnecessary treatment. If there's an urgent situation you're always top priority

>>72604384

They don't understand triage. They hear some whiny Canadian complain they waited hours because they went to the hospital with a stubbed toe, a boo boo they needed kissed better.

Last I went to the hospital, I was having heart palpitations and I was in within 5 minutes (most spend just registering with the nurse and giving my health info) for an ECG and a talk with a cardiologist.

>>72592473
Why?

>>72604560
because at the end of the day you only have what you can provide for yourself or pay someone else to provide it for you

your taxes pay for military and police to protect you and everything else follows that

>>72604622
The police, military, justice system and bureaucracy work for you even if you don't pay taxes because you're a bum you know

In Europe, at least, maybe in Murka you get shot in the head dunno