>Be Western European race scientist in the 19th and 20th centuries

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>>72035754
Hitler was actually E1b according to meme haploshits.

Germans just love to meme.

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>>72035754

Haplogroup C is Iberian

Hitler wasn't a White nationalist anyways. He was a German Nationalist.

>>72035754
>posting haploshits

according to those haploshits Switzerland is more northern african than Spain

>>72035813
He looks like Jordi Mollà

>>72035873
>according to those haploshits Switzerland is more northern african than Spain
And? Makes sense since it's close to the heart of Rome.

>>72035896
atusomal dna says otherwise

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>>72035754

>>72035873

Jordi Mollà is an Aurignacian descendant then

>>72035942
Paleo-European I1 cucks OUT

>>72036697
no, just no

>>72038289
why not, they're obviously sub-humans unworthy of life

>>72038363
seems like you want to be ruled by swedes for 500 years again...

>>72038363

20% of lutheran Karelians have I1

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>>72035848
Nice Jew propaganda.

>>72038573
If Hitler was so pro-white race and anti-communist then how come he genocided the Poles that stood at the gates of Europe for centuries, defending it from barbarians and are the most "aryan" nation in Europe?

How come he divided Eastern Europe with Communists?

>>72038598
>If Hitler was so pro-white race and anti-communist then how come he genocided the Poles that stood at the gates of Europe for centuries,
How you here?

>>72038598
>slavs
>white

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>>72038881
If Poles aren't white then so aren't Germans and Scandinavians since they share common ancestors.

>>72038909

Poles stopped evolving 5000 years ago

>>72038931
Finns never evolved past uralic cavemen.

Every city in Finland was founded by either Swedes or Russians. Literally nursed "nation", created by Russia as a finger to Sweden.

I think it is accepted that it means that R1b killed every iberian male once ago, not that r1b are iberian in origin

>>72039038
see >>72038931
Slav=Slave

>>72039080

Tru dat, the original iberians were I2

>>72038909

you mean that some germans and scandinavians have a common ancestor with poles

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>>72039080
Iberians same since forever though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNAQ8LLptUo

>>72039038

Finns are just as Corded Ware as you, Przeworski.
It's just that our Uralic fathers defeated Aryan Corded Ware men in combat to acquire their women who had blond hair and blue eyes.

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>>72039038
We had ironworking earlier than swedes by from what we've gathered by modern genetics, archeology and other we wuz tier shit. But enough about that, swedes literally just organized our religion and told us to build shit. Other than we were being peasants and soldiers.

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>>72039102
>Slav=Slave
yawn
>>72039121
""""Some""""
>>72039149
>>72039152
Then why are you attacking me? Or any other Polacks?

Aren't Finns against Russia?

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>>72039168
I'm not attacking you i was just correcting.

t:>>72039152

>>72039168
>Aren't Finns against Russia?
Lol, finns are biggest russian buttlickers ever.
They didn't mind russians killing every single one of them and their cousin nations, ingerians and etc.

>>72039168

yes, some, look at R1A-M458 not at R1A as a whole.

>>72039168

It's just fun because Poles take everything negative about them so seriously. Of course in reality Poles also kept advancing themselves although at a slightly lower rate compared to NW Europeans.

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>>72039209
Since R1A-M458 hit Central Europe first, rest that went further West and North are off-shot of this, so people that stayed here are their ancestors.
>>72039196
>>72039253
STOP STEERING FINNS AND POLES AGAINST EACH OTHER.

>>72039292

>Since R1A-M458 hit Central Europe first

First?What do you mean?R1a-M458 is the nest ydna in Central Europe.
I dont understand what you are trying to say.

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>>72039198
>They didn't mind

We literally tried to take the finnic areas by force in the midst of our declaration of independence and then later in continuation war, fuck you.


Swedes are the lowest tier of absolute garbage that browses this site and i hate you more by the day. Sweden has famined us to death used us as a frontierland, drafted us in to their pointless upbringings against Russia. After that sweden has tried to take our clay by force forced our hand to the side of axis blocked supplies in our wars, and then justifies this by it's "volunteers" and years later some uppity faggots act all high and mighty in their sinking ship.

You swedes are truly something else.

>>72039342
see >>72038909
they came from southern Ukraine to Pooland and went into Germany and Scandinavia.

>>72039377

And I dont understand what's your point.

>>72039394
Because you can't read lmao.

If you want to call polacks subhuman then call german and scandis as well, since they have the same blood anyway. ONE DROP RULE

>muh haplogroups
When will it stop?

>>72039465
When the last autist draws breath

>>72039441

IDIOT

I keep telling you about R1A-M458 and you keep changing the subject with either its origin, or "If you want to call polacks subhuman"

Fucking insecure subhuman

>>72039506
*final breath

>>72039465
Seeing these threads always reassures me that I haven't dropped to haplogroup levels of autism

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>>72039514
Oh, look. It's that butthurt gypsy again.

pic rel. any questions?

>>72039550

What the fuck is your problem?3rd time I'm telling you what is your problem.Maybe you don't understand english.

>>72039538

Haplogroups aren't autistic. They are a serious sub-field in population genetics.
4chan is autistic.

>>72039564
Or maybe you're fucking retarded. Which wouldn't suprise me, since I was your previous posts in other threads lmao.

Germans, Scandinavians, Slavs, Finns are all children of Corded Ware culture. If you call one sub-human - you have to call all of them that.

>>72039149
Pretty sad that you take pride in the genes you got through your mothers instead of the heritage of your fathers. Not that this is a problem for me, being an aR1an myself.

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>>72039603
saw*

>>72039603

>Germans, Scandinavians, Slavs, Finns are all children of Corded Ware culture

Some of them are.

2nd time I'm telling you that you have no idee what ALL means.

>>72039628
>Some of them are.
Literally 50% of Germans >>72039550
>>72039168
That's some for you?

Maybe it's you who doesn't understand. German concept of being "masterrace" and Slavs being "sub-human" fails miserably, since they're half-slavshit themselves.

ayyy lmao, so much for ancient aryans.

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>>72039599

>Eastern Europeans are the true patrilinealrelatives of ancient Aryans
Also Kyrgyz, tajiks, Iranians and Indians. All that shit has no point, racists suck my balls

Finns are mix of paleolithic and indo-aryans.

>>72039685
>Also Kyrgyz, tajiks, Iranians and Indians
They got shitskinned in the process of mixing with others. >>72038909

>>72039623

Fuck off with that shit. When races are combined a new race is born. Finns aren't Khans or truly Corded Ware either but a combination of their innate traits.

>yamna

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>>72039665

>Literally 50% of Germans

nah man

>>72039698

nah man N1C is one.I've sen plenty of finns with asian features.

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>>72039628
It's funny how finns were considered subhuman, when we actually fought for that pink pussy harder than anyone else.

>>72039715
You retarded pole, kyrgyzes are Asians, moreover, all these peoples with R1a has different cultures and history. Okay, Kyrgyzes are heavily influenced by Russian culture but they are originally Turkic nomads, tajiks are people from mountains akin to Afghanis, Iranians are 4000 year old culture, etc. All these haplogroups in particular and genes at all don't matter, all these racial superiority theories were fucked by the science ages ago and only retarded idiots may believe it now.

>>72039789
Who taught you I2 cucks pastoral metallurgy, sad case as I1 right? Were you rolling in your own shit?

>>72039715
Central Asians have the oldest R1a though and even basal P1-M45 carriers.

>>72039866

And Serbians have the basal N clade.

>>72040137
No they don't, only Chinks do.

>>72040290

Shows what you know. The oldest basal branch of N is exclusively found in Europe, specifically among Serbians.

Although it hasn't been there for long. It was also carried by an iron age Scythian intruder in Hungary ~800 bc who had very heavy Mongoloid admixture and Mongoloid mtDNA too.

Still, it at least means that N might originate somewhere in Siberia rather than anywhere in China and especially not southern China.

>>72039789
>algarve
keeeeeeek

>>72040482
>However, the basal paragroup N* has only been found in populations indigenous to China and Cambodia.
You're probably mixing up basal N1c and basal N.

>>72040527

The N in Serbia is older than that "basal" shit China and Cambodia.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/N/

>N-Y6503

Chinks don't have anything older. N in SEA is clearly just northern influence.

>>72035754
There are many mechanisms to increase the genetic variability, and it makes us eternal cucks, we are all cucks and will always be, accept or deny it, its up to you

>>72040924
>and it makes us eternal cucks
Only those who belong to a cucked paternal haplogroup (like I1, I2) are.

>>72040984
And you can see that their cuckery lead them to evolutive victory, since they spreaded their genes very well and have no inbreeding; the l1 and l2 will never cease to exist

>>72041245
>since they spreaded their genes very well and have no inbreeding
Literally the opposite. R1 killed most I1 males, hence why it's such a bottlenecked lineage.

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>>72035754
tfw not übermensch aryan

>>72041472

What makes you think there were ever many to begin with?

Do people really care about this stuff? You're only a product of your parents.

>>72041495
that's a volga german

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>>72041495
>Boy
>Sminem
>Cool

>>72041495
chernobyl was a horrible tragedy

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>>72041615
It's what you are, it's important even though it's a genetic lottery.

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>>72041695
no, this is a volga german

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>>72035754
Russians and Swedes are our brothers.

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Precisely we Iberians are the master race decendents from the Atlanteans demigods.

>>72041510
All logic would say that they were more populous before Indo-Europeans started killing them en masse.

>>72042581
pic unrelated

>>72039789
>I've sen plenty of finns with asian features.
In real life or memes?

>>72042694

Indo-Europeans also genocided countless G and I2 men which gave I1 room to expand after the bottleneck. I1 were in all likelyhood just a tiny minority in the old days before Corded Ware started hammering people down.

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>>72035754
>filthy Iberian

>>72035777
>>72035848
>Hitler

What the fuck?

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>>72035754
Finnish people are 1/64 native american.

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>>72043052
Sorry~ europid thread.
>>72043253
Estonians Finns & Norwegians are indo-europeons max.

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>>72043298
>europid thread
>finnish

Do not make me laugh.

>>72042905
>I1 were in all likelyhood just a tiny minority in the old days before Corded Ware started hammering people down
That's just a lie I1 cucks tell themselves to convince themselves they're conquerers rather than the conquered.

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>>72043394
Negroid.

>>72043412

We should be getting more information about I1's origin pretty soon.
I'd suggest not building your entire ideology around it simply being conquered. I don't see much of a chance of it originating in Scandinavia but we'll see.

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>>72043298
>europid thread.
>its opens with a map showing that the Finns are genetically Asian.

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>>72043298

>>72043622
see >>72043298
Which rasse has civilization now?
Mongoloids or Negroids.
>>72043689
t. joao bruno

>>72039080
Read more about it.

>>72043591
It did get thoroughly cucked and conquered by R1 bulls. Hard to view it as anything but.

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>>72043710

Do not compare, Finns are mostly Asians genetically. African genes in Spain on the other hand are very small.

>>72043759

This is your theory.
Alternatively, a small tribe in Jutland peninsula avoided the destruction and expanded to Scandinavia, cucking the R1a men who had recently made it theirs.
This is more likely IMO but we'll see.

>>72043298
That must be why we're the bulls of Europe and your women love us

>>72039080
Wat

>>72043887

Original Iberian haploshit is I2 and C. R1b rape machines changed the frequencies a bit.

>>72043860
Do you have a global version of this map?

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>>72043860
Negroid disinfo, we're paleolithic & indoeuropean & uralic. http://mtdnaatlas.blogspot.fi/2017/01/finland.html
>>72043887
Spain is closer than africa if women want to racemix~

So did "l" cucks get genocided in Europe?

>>72043871
Sounds more like a delusional power fantasy. In reality I1 didn't have the means to compete with Indo-Europeans until succumbing to them and adopting their technology. And by the time that happened, R1 men already had gained dominance over I1 men.

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WE

>>72035754
>portugal is more germanic than north african in haplogroups

wew lad spicy

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>>72043946

Nop. This is the closest thing I have.

>>72043871
>cucking the R1a men
is that why there is more R1a people than l1?
Is that why l1 people speak Indo-European?

Something doesn't add up here.

>>72043981

We'll know for sure soon.
How do you explain the presence of I1 in mainland Scandinavia when it most likely originated further to the west?
It could even be from Netherlands.

>>72043860
Haplogroups are just Haplogroups not "genes" as a whole, you can have R1b and be a total nigger (literally). They are just good to know your paternal ancestors/linage, but that's it.

>>72044050
I1 comes from doggerland.
Landmass that was between denmark/netherlands/britain that went under the sea sadly~

>>72044050
>How do you explain the presence of I1 in mainland Scandinavia
It expanded there during the Mesolithic, later getting cucked by waves of Indo-Europeans.

>>72043998
Sephardi jews, ashkenazi jews, palestinians and lebanese people have a similar y-dna distribution.

Iceland is pretty similar to norway. Why did r1b dominate western europe?

>>72044110
>>72044248

There is mesolithic DNA from Sweden and it's I2.
There's no proof there was much if any I1 there when the R1a Corded Ware originally showed up to hammer people down.

The most basal subclades of I1 are found in the southern North Sea region not mainland Scandinavia and the most recent common ancestor of all I1's isn't older than Corded Ware either.

>>72035873
>according to those haploshits Switzerland is more northern african than Spain
Maybe it's because of the italian side

>>72039599
This bizarre obsession with them is though.

>>72044374
Doggerland will be the urheimat of I1 I think~

>>72044374
>The most basal subclades of I1 are found in the southern North Sea region not mainland Scandinavia
I1 originated in a land that covered the North Sea so its oldest subclades being found in the vicinity of it isn't very surprising.
>the most recent common ancestor of all I1's isn't older than Corded Ware either
Wrong, it predates Corded Ware by at least 2000 years.

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>>72035754
>>Turns out you're a filthy Iberian and Eastern Europeans are the true patrilinealrelatives of ancient Aryans
No it turns out the Nazi's were right, autosomally Scandinavians have the highest amount of Indo european ancestry

>>72045334
Except not, since finns and estonians are same baltic-finns as an ethnic group.
He thought we were honorary.

>>72045120

Corded Ware starts in Poland, Estonia and Finland around the same time in ~3000 BC.
It doesn't take more than two centuries until the two prongs of the Corded Ware gangbang Sweden from both south and east.

I1's age is not significantly older than this.
If we look at Scandinavian I1 only it's younger.

>>72045368
The Finnic ancestral homeland in europe was just north of the EHG homeland, it's shared ancestry

>>72045572

>Finnic ancestral homeland

That would be Altai mountains. Finns are pretty low on EHG that isn't from Indo-Europeans. Vast bulk of it is inherited from the Corded Ware and their kin.
Indo-Aryans by the way were the first IE people to have contact with Finns, not the PIEs.

>>72045334
>>72045572
>autosomally Scandinavians have the highest amount of Indo european ancestry
XD

R1 are Indo-Europeans, burger.

>>72045691
I remember there was a study looking at the EHG and autosomally the Samarans and Karelians looked very similar despite having different y-dna haplogroups. Why do you say that the indo aryans had contact with Finns?

>>72045718
You are thinking of Haploroups, which is just a paternal and maternal marker on the chromosomes. Autosomal dna looks at your complete genetic background, refer to this>>72045334 Norwegians have the highest Yamnaya indo european ancestry of all the groups looked at. Y-dna is irrelevant in this respect

>>72045929
But how come there are Ukrainians and Ukrainians but no Poles?

Both of them are literally blandaup. Seems like a shit research to me.

>>72046042
>Ukrainians and Ukrainians
FUG :D

Ukrainians and Hungarians*

>>72045929

Because recent linguistic studies have debunked the idea that there's a mass of PIE influence in Finno-Ugric and that Finno-Ugric languages are even old enough for that. The oldest layer is Indo-Aryan.
This makes all the sense is the world since the Seima-Turbino nomads of the Eurasian forest steppe had very tight connections to the Sintashta charioteers, usually friendly too.

>>72046042
Are you saying David Reich the head geneticist at Harvard is a shit researcher?

Here, right now, email and David and tell him his research is shit and he doesnt deserve the 2017 Dan David prize in the Past Time Dimension in the field of Archaeology and Natural Sciences. https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/

>>72046232
But why the fuck did he put Hungarians and Ukrainians but no Poles?

Was he fucking drunk or just plain stupid? A person like him should know that they're both fucking mixed beyond point of understanding. Ukrainians are literally Russians raped by Poles.

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>>72046042
Why would anyone care about poles?

>>72045929
>the Samarans and Karelians looked very similar despite having different y-dna haplogroups
Source on the autosomal similarity?

t. Karelian with R1a-M512

>>72046293
Probably because it was inconsequential to the study and no one really cared except you? It's hard to get data and that was probably what he could get. Belarussians/Ukranians serve as a good proxy for poles, you guys probably fall in between them. David Reich is the most important genetics researcher currently, wouldnt call his research stupid just because he didnt look at Poland

>>72046522
>Belarussians/Ukranians serve as a good proxy for poles, you guys probably fall in between them.
Not at all. Unless proven otherwise.
>Probably because it was inconsequential to the study and no one really cared except you?
I shit on his study because he didn't collect samples from the nation that has 38 milion population.

> David Reich is the most important genetics researcher currently, wouldnt call his research stupid just because he didnt look at Poland
>Reich
Into trash. Just like German XIX century pseudo-science.

>>72046433
You're going to have to find it on your own, I just remember seeing it in passing. I'm sure R1a was in old Karelian samples though

>>72046597
He didnt collect samples from Germany or Russia either genius which are much larger, also he's a jew. There's no reason to get butthurt about a scientific study

>>72046727
>He didnt collect samples from Germany or Russia either genius which are much larger, also he's a jew. There's no reason to get butthurt about a scientific study

>he's a Jew
>with a german surname
Into trash, like I said. German Jews are the worst scum.

>>72046762
Kek, you know it's a good study when it enrages retards on 4chan

>>72045929
>>72046135

http://www.elisanet.fi/alkupera/UralicEvidence.pdf

>>72046727
>R1a was in old Karelian samples though
Mesolithic Karelian R1a were dead ends, they don't have any living descendants.

>>72045471
>If we look at Scandinavian I1 only it's younger
Most probably R1 bulls spared the certain younglings of I1 cucks to indoctrinate them into their culture and language.

>>72047555

You're too mentally attached to R1a Corded Ware because you're R1a yourself.
Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were 100% R1a for a long time and that didn't help them much when the N1c Khans came to make a new order.
Something similar might have happened in Scandinavia too but with R1a losing to incoming to R1b and I1.