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>>71832426
>Canada
Your biggest accomplishment in war is holding off America long enough for Britain to do all of the rest of the work.

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reporting in

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Italians belong to Germanic cock

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Yes hello.

let's not forget the Korean war

Why isn't Portugal invited?

>>71832845
When has Portugal been the most powerful country in the world?

>>71832404
Why aren't we invited?

>>71832845
You expect far too much from OP amigo.

Hello my powerful friends

>>71832404
We wuz kings fucking amerishart

>>71832901
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medieval_great_powers#Latin_Christianity
Well, turns out that not even the Anglo wiki considers them so. I truly believed Portugal was stronger than England and Castilla during its peak.

>>71832462
And they liberated us, after you guys left us to starve.

>>71832404
>Italy
Italy is not the successor state of Rome just because Rome is located in present day Italy

>>71833004
That was when?

>>71833004
>medieval
1400's and onward isn't typically considered Medieval.

>germany

>>71833107
That's just the name of the wiki article.
>>71833027
Pre-1500
I don't know exactly when to say it started, by I know that Spanish hegemony, during the Italian Wars, marked the beginning of the end for Portugal.

>germany
when was this exactly

>>71833175
>>71833217
I'm guessing he meant to say "Germanics" (meaning all Germanic countries) instead of "Germany". After all, most of the countries mentioned in the list - Egypt, China, Greece, Italy, Iran, etc. - were originally Germanic.

>>71833107
medieval is from 500 to 1500

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>>71833217
>>71833175
In ww2 and ww1 Germany alone was de facto most powerful country in the world. But in both cases US surpassed it in the midst of the mettle.

>>71833341
>most of the countries mentioned in the list - Egypt, China, Greece, Italy, Iran, etc. - were originally Germanic.
I feel like I'm missing the joke

>>71833432
You're a retard, there is no joke. Egypt was ruled by white Nordics (Nordic = Germanic). China was heavily influenced by Nordics and is essentially a Nordic civilisation. Greece, Italy and Iran are obvious and I shouldn't have to explain it to you. Try reading up on Atlantis.

>>71833004
>I truly believed Portugal was stronger than England and Castilla during its peak.
The Duke of Cadiz could raise a bigger army than the king of Portugal pal

>>71833009
Portugal lost 5 wars against Castile and won 1. They were never the most powerful in the Peninsula

>>71833494
Still managed to kick your ass whit those few.

>>71833568
Portugal won 1 war against Castile and it was mostly against a Leonese army which doesn't really count. Castile won 5 wars against Portugal

>>71833491
never change please

>>71833518
Ok but we got to India before u n held more colonies across the globe, also we were more well connected n had more gold than u had silver.

>>71832404
>Germany

When?

>>71832404
>Germany

You were doing okay until this

>>71833020

By who exactly is not consider that? By you?

>>71833665
And we were better at killing Saracen.

By the time we had tanger n ceuta.
U were still leaving whit moors in Granada.

You forget the country that controlled the world trade for years.

Shit thread.

>>71832404
alri

>>71833786
It's about military power, Jan.

>>71833760
>we were better at killing Saracen.
Nope. You just piggybacked Castile after the crown BTFOed muslims in the most decessive battles (Simancas,Navas de Tolosa or the conquest of Andalucia) that is why Portugal got poor land while Castile got the wealthiest lands from the Moors.

>>71832901
dey was explorin da world n sheit before it was cool niqqa

>>71833816
We destroyed Spain and England

>>71833786
The Durch were never a world power. You couldn't even be a sovereign country without the aid of France and half of the continent.

>>71833020
>>71833730
italy is to rome what a pug is to a wolf

>>71833844
You didn't. You got bailed out by France when you were about to lose the war. After the conquest of the Palatinate and the defeat of the Swedes at Nordlingen the Dutch were fucked

>>71833845
France and England had to work together to defeat us.

You're just butthurt about losing against a small swamp

>>71833175
>taking down several empires and having the whole world at war with you
>twice within 30 years
>holding out for 4 years each time
>70 years on, be the most influential country in Europe

germans truly are the master race

>>71833702
>Ok but we got to India before
Yes
>u held more colonies across the globe
Spain had colonies in 5 continents. Portugal in 4 if you are generous
>also we were more well connected
Nope
>n had more gold than u had silve
Never.

>>71833888
Well can they do this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TjQthiKfnng

>>71833876
>France and England had to work together to defeat us.
France destroyed you alone
>You're just butthurt about losing against a small swamp
We lost against a continental coalition. The Dutch were not even the most relevant country in it

WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bX4mO_xNAE

Very happily reporting in
Sorry for exploiting the pikes while they were OP, good thing they got nerfed with the firearms expansion. Not too good for us but eh

>>71834071
At least you are the Papal States unique unit. That has to count for something.

>>71833956
When we we're at our peak, the French didn't destroy us.

You lost against us. You lost the Netherlands. You had an amazing empire, but a few swamp people managed to kick you out and it even costed your world power status.

>>71833956
[Citation Needed]
Hollands brave Willem van Oranje had Spain in his pocket lmao.

>>71834100
>Habsburgs
>being good at war
>ever
We too know the joy of kicking Habsburg ass

>>71834071
why did they 180 on the Humanitarian superpower prestige bonus by giving a big unrest malus?
this is horrible, please revert to the third millenium vanilla patch...

>>71834088
Be Spen.
Get Papacy only cuz u allow Italians to be degenerates in your realm.

>>71834100
But the Dutch were losing and France had to intervene. In land the Dutch could only win some sieges butwere always defeated in battle. It took the French and the English to win some battles in that war
>When we we're at our peak, the French didn't destroy us.
Yes they did

>>71833855

And so? All those countries are nothing compare with what their ancestors did, with the exception of US.

Italy is the direct successor of Rome. Stronger or weaker makes no difference

>>71834164
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Callixtus_III
>yfw the most degenerate Papacy was a Spanish family

>>71834200
[Citation Needed]

>>71834112
William lost multiple times and had to flee to England

Be Portugal.
Send A Fucking Albino Elephant whit Indians parading the all nine yards.
Get the pope blessing.

>>71834228
Can't win 'em all, Paco. Meanwhile you literally got cucked by people we refered to as "water beggers" (=water geuzen).

CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>71834228
Why u still talking to the swamp heathens???

>Be Spain
>Get cucked by a couple jews living in swamps

>>71832462
We also made it the furthest inland on D-day, liberated the Dutch which unlike the Americans we aren't constantly bragging about and we took Vimy ridge something no one else could. I'd say we have a few war time accomplishments to be proud of

>>71834221
>Imagine u had tow more siblings, and wile u were exploring t world having new relationships, they were instead have incestuous sex, now they could have followed ur example but they prefered to by nasty siners so let them share the fault don't just accuse one of them...

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>>71834279
Dude Willem got royally fucked. He started with the support of all the provinces and ended up just having Holland and Zeeland after losing every single battle

It appears that once again people have the wrong view of our nations history.

The difference between Spain and us was that we didnt rely on a huge armies doing the work because we simply didnt have that. We relied on good business deals and sanctions. This way we could force other countries into doing the fighting for us.
There is a reason why we're refered to as ancient jews.

>>71834493
In what way are you "ancient" Jews? I think Swampjews or Marshkikes is more accurate.

>>71834528
That works too.

>>71834493
boggy swamp merchant

>>71834493
The only reason u are even remotely relevant was because D.Sebastiao died in battle whiteout leaving an heir thus allowing the Felipes to usurp our reigns n dragging us for a unwineble war against u.
Also u were fuckings pirating our shit u were the Somalis of the pass.

>>71834633
>let me tell you about your country
lol

>>71834464
>1572
You know the war lasted from 1568 to 1648 right.

>>71833816
>the Netherlands took England with a fleet twice the size of the Spanish armada
>won against an invasion force from England, France and Germany at the same time
>won against an invasion force from England and Russia at the same time (with the help of France)
>won against Spain and the Holy Roman Empire

butthurt dutch ruins another thread

>>71834727
>hol up
>we in a war
>dies
>we are in war boi

>>71834779
When the war began there was no such thing as a Netherlands. Just some random provinces of a larger state. If we had lost the war we wouldn't exist.

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>>71834779
>be in war
>fuck woman
>have child
>child fucks woman
>have child
>child fucks woman
>have child
>child fucks woman
>have child
>child fucks woman
>have child
>still in war

>>71834826
Yeah its called "THE Middle East".

>>71834810
In fact, in 1572 there wasn't even such a thing as a Dutch army. Just some angry civilians.

>>71833730
Nobody considers Italy a successor state of Rome. There are at least 400 years separating the end of Rome and the founding of the kingdom of Italy. And that's only if you're one of those people who still calls Byzantium "Rome", if you're talking about the Roman Empire in the way most people think about it then there is an even bigger span of time between the two.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS0Ic8ep1lI


ayyyy yo kill whitey

>>71834633
>Portuguese build a fort in India/Indonesia/Malaysia/Brazil
>the Dutch attack it
>Portuguese send troops to save that fort
>the Dutch just go attack another one

It was like whack-a-mole

10th century Iraq is a candidate

If Italy can claim Rome then can Iraq claim Sumer?
Can ISIS claim the Caliphate?

>>71834667
Excuse me this is kind of irrelevant but you seem very knowledgeable and I'm trying to help my dad figure out ancestry stuff. Can you tell me how you would know if someone was Dutch or if they were Friesian?

>>71834884
He posted a map of 1572 intentionally, because then the real revolt started. With the capture of Den Briel by the Seabeggars (pirates). After which everyone slowly started siding with the rebels.

>>71834921
They are like the perfect antagonist.
We create trade routes they robbed us.
We discover gold they create stock houses to take it way.
We leave next to morocco n weed is illegal they make billions whit MDma

>>71835061
>In the Eighty Years' War, the Capture of Brielle by the Watergeuzen in 1572 provided the first foothold on land for the rebels, who would conquer the northern Netherlands and establish an independent Dutch Republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geuzen

Kek @ all those "idaly not rome, muh version of history, MUH OPINIONS!"

Let that asshurt glow through baebby

>>71835610
It's not though.

>>71835684
WE WUZ, WE IZ, WE WILL BE forever

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>>71835749
STOP

>>71832404
>Double Uninvited: Russia
Why so rude John, we wuz Czars and shiet

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>>71832404
>invited: Italy
AYO HOL UP
SO YOUZ VE SAYAN
DAT WE WUZ ROMANS N SHIEEET

>>71834892
>>71835018

Italy is the successor of Rome.
Language, tradition, religion, civil law, people (or you believe the meme that 20.000 goths can change the ethnic of milions of people?) of Rome still live in Italy today.

Italy is not anymore a superpower like Rome? Shit not even UK it is and it was a superpower just 70 years ago.

The Italian peninsula has thousands years of non stopping civilization passing through many names, get over it.

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>>71833703
>>71833729
Right now.

>>71835972
it's not the goths
it's the goths, the lombards, the vandals, the spanish, the french, but especially the p*pal state that completely ruined central Italy for centuries. Have you ever been to Rome? It's a disease with buildings that would do the whole peninsula a favour if it disappeared in thin air

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>>71836046

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>>71836046
>mfw we are even less important than Belgium in UE decisions

JUST

Bad map, bad thread.

>>71836048

> it's not the goths
it's the goths, the lombards, the vandals, the spanish, the french, but especially the p*pal state that completely ruined central Italy for centuries. Have you ever been to Rome? It's a disease with buildings that would do the whole peninsula a favour if it disappeared in thin air

Goths and Longbards were genocide by Eastern Roman Empire the first and genocide by the Charles the Great the second.
The Vandals just passed through Italy, the stopped in Spain and North Africa (before to get also genocide).
French and Spanish just occupied Italy (like also Austria) as much as USA is occupying Iraq and Afghanistan today.
The Papal State is a fucking successor of Rome.
I don't care if Rome smells like shit today, it's not what we are talking about, we are talking about heritage.

Che poi a Roma ci sono pure stato, ma solo per il Giubileo del 2000 (ero in una scuola cattolica). Pensavo di farci un giro ad Aprile/Maggio e vedere se fa davvero così cagare come dicono

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>>71836255
>The Papal State is a fucking successor of Rome

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>>71832404
Iran is forever ruined

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>>71836048
>>71836255
>>71836307
HOL UP

>>71836255
>The Papal State is a fucking successor of Rome
porco dio impiccati veramente

>>71836307

The fuck should it be?
The Pope was already functioning as Pope in the last century of the Roman Empire and was the highest religious figure.
With the end of the Western Empire and some fake kings that lasted like years or less, The Pope assumed also the political power in the central zone of the Italian peninsula.

Sadly it didn't disappear during the 15th/16th century when both Tuscany and Venice has their chance.

Comunque fanno 12 euro l'ora, ma tranquillo che la verifica la passi.

>>71836419
I think you don't understand what "successor" means.

>>71836467

Porco Dio perché secondo te il successore è chi conserva l'etichetta con il nome? Allora dallo ai tedeschi, loro si che sono romani.
Se lo Stato Papale ha ereditato leggi, conoscenze, lingua, cittadinanza e città del fulcro di ciò che era Roma, che cazzo dovrebbe essere se non un legittimo successore? Cos'è, se non fanno la guerra con i celti vuol dire che non sono veri romani?

>>71836367

> Sardinian
> Italian

Choose one

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>>71833491
Elephant juice.

Gotlander reporting in.

>>71834727
I was talking about Willem. He lost and the Dutch army was crushed at Gembloux with a charge that killed 11 thousand Dutch and English in under an hour

>>71836580
>lingua
Sì
>conoscenze
In parte
>leggi, cittadinanza, città
No
Non dire minchiate
Ite missa est

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I was surprise that Americans keep that fort in California built during Russian Empire expansion

>>71836874

Eh perché le città di Roma, Urbino, Ancona, ma anche Ferrara e Ravenna in parte, più un sacco di altre città a caso con tutti i loro abitanti, sono diventati improvvisamente Slovacchi immagino.

>>71837023
I've read a Lebedev's post about it recently. Pretty cool story.

>>71836419
Amon devi comprendere che il papato è stato il più grande ostacolo all'unificazione italiana, quindi in Italia rimane un certo rancore verso l'istituzione

>>71837139

E questo cosa cazzo c'entra con l'essere i maggiori eredi di Roma in Italia dopo la fine dell'Impero?

Non è che siccome una cosa sta sul cazzo a (te) allora non è vera.

Giovanni, la verità è che è brutto sentirselo dire... Ma tua moglie è proprio un bel puttanone!

>>71832534
WE

Hi.

>>71833491
hello varg

>tfw serbian
>tfw my country had so much potential
>tfw turks came and fucked it up

>>71837328
Stai calmo, comunque il maggiore erede di Roma in Italia era la Repubblica di Venezia

>>71832404
>turkey
You're literally stupid

british empire reporting in :^^)

>>71837989
Turkey deserves to be there as much as any other empire dumass.

>egypt
The Arabic piece of shit that we have today is there because... ?

If france and germany get to be here then why not us?
Only reason why indonesia is eating rats at the moment is because of us. theyre the top exporter of most spices and other goods like rubber

>>71838608
>Only reason why indonesia is eating rats at the moment is because of us.
Is that a good thing?

>>71838608
isnt*

>>71838173
Having been an empire doesn't equal to having been the world's leading superpower at some point, maybe with the arabs but that's their natural sphere

Literally only US, UK, France, and Spain can be on that list. It's a very exclusive list. Italy can be added if they take all credit for Rome but that's shared between the main Romance countries imo

>>71838778
>Having been an empire doesn't equal to having been the world's leading superpower at some point
It's only because of alpha Turks blocking European trade that the Age of Exploration began (accidentally tho).

Turks used to dominate in the 15/16 hundreds completely. They had complete control of the Balkans for such a long time.

>>71838888
>Literally only US, UK, France, and Spain can be on that list.
Not China or Mongolia or Greece or Persia.

>>71832404
When was Germany the most powerful country in the world?

Also, pretty sure that Greece was never the most powerful country

We wuz caroleans n sheeeeit wurld supahpowah don't you forget that, reporting in

>>71838608
because france and germany were at one point the most powerful countries on earth and the netherlands were not

>>71838914
>>71838934

The criteria is strongest in the world not just their region, learn to read bogan

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>Europe
>Ruining everything since 1200BC

>>71832404
Well Ireland was part of the UK during its height so I'm reporting in

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>>71832404
you for go me so reporting in anyway

>>71832404
>turkey
>mongolia
>china

mmmm they were great powers in any time, but not the most powerfull.
the most powefull in asia is not the most powerfull in the world.european potences were always superior

>>71832404
a-arabian e-empire?
l-libyan c-chariots?
we wuz kangs xoxo

>>71843050
lel no. mongols crushed euro sissies in legnica, seljuks crushed crusaders in most wars, japan dominated asia in ww2 against the white devil. Eurocentrism is a meme.

>>71833107

>Canadian education

>>71843050
nigga do you even know history?
till a few hundred years ago europe was irrelevant

>>71833989
YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg

>>71834493

And that's how you passed from being the main naval and commercial power in the XVII to being cucks in the next.

Because "great business deals and strategic diplomatic vision"

>>71843228
>europe
>irrelevant
> a few hundred years ago

kek.
only relevant not european civilization was egypt, thousands years ago.

next greece and other european countries ruled the world.

asian civilizations were irrelevant in a historical point of view.

>>71835051
Usually by the first or last name.
Frisians have weird names like Sietse, Jetske, Adsje, etc.

>>71843572
So the earliest Middle Eastern high cultures apart from Egypt were irrelevant?

>>71843516
But how did Spain go from being a terrifying and mighty kingdom to the poor mans holiday destination?

>>71841970
>arabs

>>71843676

By losing the source of golds at the hands of the international jewmasonry.

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>>71843789
So same story really.
At least we're still somewhat relevant through engineering and we're also pretty rich in the present :^)

Oh and you can at least thank us for investing in your country.

>>71833020
''Uhuhu muh anziend rome was germaneek 11!!!11''

>>71838955
We wuz Macedonia n shiet

>>71843050
Europe was a shithole before the Age of Exploration
The only reason for exploring was to trade with Asia, cause of t*rks.
Mongolia crushed Hungary and was the strongest empire at the time.
Chinks were strongest for a long time too

>>71832404
USA is still the most powerful though

>>71832534
hi we are the ostrogoths

>>71832404
>Germany
?

>Greece
Because Macedonia?