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Why don't more cities adopt the Japanese style planning/construction?

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Why don't more cities adopt the Japanese style planning/construction? It's so logical.
>abundant pedestrian/ slow drive zones
>efficient use of space but also privacy
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it will destroy their automotive industry
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it can not operate other than we Japanese.
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>>71552028
how is any of that unique to japan
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>>71552028
I'm pretty sure this is operated beyond Japan.
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>>71552028
>american education
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>>71552143
Tell me if it's different but Australian style looks mostly the same as American, where houses are not covered/ hidden at all from the public roads.
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In the Netherlands you can't ride faster than 15 km/h in all living streets.

A lot of city centers are car free.

And everything is designed for people on foot and on bike.
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>>71552625
But your houses are not covered by walls from the public roads.
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>>71552220
depends on the neighbourhood. A lot of people like showing off their houses.
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>>71552028
>weeb delusion #3525838

Have you seen Osaka?
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>>71552220
there are loads of countries where people have walls around their houses

but I guess regulations don't allow it in some countries? it's not visually appealing I guess
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>>71552028

Literally every household in Sweden
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>>71552718
It depends on the price class.

And where you live of course.

In the cities in the west there is a shortage on housing, so row houses are used. We have one of the least appartment buildings in Europe, just like England, so as an alternative we put people in row houses. One price class above it are row houses with a garden on one side. From this price class and on you do have privacy. Then corner houses. Then semi-detached. Then entirely detached.
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fuck walls desu
in norway walls are even illegal
but some walls are good
fuck no-all-walls then
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>>71552028
Some of our ghettos are like this, you can only see walls from the outside, no roads where you can use a car, just parking lots from where you walk home
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Best design.
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>>71552823
>In the cities in the west there is a shortage on housing, so row houses are used
Japanese don't build their houses the way they do because they have a ton of space, desu.
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>>71552097
>falling for the motorized Jew
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>>71552845
*not
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>>71552625
Another reminder to keep driving big ass Freedomcars until the sea swallows your disgusting commiehole

Not that Germany doesn't have its share of ecofascism though
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>>71552850
>ugly walls
>streets too narrow to facilitate bikes
>parking on the sidewalk
nah
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>>71552625
>than 15 km/h in all living streets.
Is that because everyone is high as fuck?
Our city centers are 40kmph. School zones are 30kmph.
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>>71552901
>Ecofascism
Sounds actually like a neat ideology.
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>slow drive zones

Residential is 30mph with a fair bit of city at 20mph and it's fucking shit
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>>71552922
safer and less noise pollution. Only downside is carfags get fucked but they deserve it.
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>>71552850
The building has insufficient earthquake resistance.
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>>71552911
>ugly
there is room for variation.
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>>71552901
>implying we do it for environmental reasons
That's only a small part of it.
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>>71552850
>syrian refugees can hop right into the veranda
No thank you.
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>>71552028
>>efficient use of space
Top fucking kek.
Japan fucking sucks at urban planning. Go there sometime.
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>>71552958
>>71552922
the average speed is little due to jams/junctions anyway, no point to speed up to 100kmh for 10 seconds like everyone does here

shits' retarded
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>>71552983
Apartment houses in urban areas should be like this.
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>>71552922
A lot of urban areas that would be 40km/h in Finland are 60 km/h here. Mongoland feels like a kindergarten in comparison tbf

>>71552945
Well, you've had a lot of practice.

Read Pentti Linkola's manifestos if you want ecological rationale for vernichting 90% of the population, military government and living in romantic harmony with the nature.
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>>71553086
t. new world shitter that cant understand any shape other than a square
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>>71552983
On the right is the only apartment building in my neighborhood.

>tfw everything here is green and with water with brick walls, making it infinitely more comfy
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>>71553230
>interiors are shamelessly exposed to the outside world
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>>71553230
Row houses tend to have one street side and one garden side.
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>>71553271
An old photo, but it gives an idea what I mean.
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>>71552028
people call that rabbit hutch. Japs are literally savages
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>>71553171
Petty Linkola would be based if it werent for his ludditism. Genetic engineering and research made a lot of livingstandarts that could only been reached before with fossile fules affordable with less wasteful alternatives.
This can and should be widened.
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>>71553395
the netherlands look really comfy
how many third worlders are in these parts
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This one looks more comfy
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>>71552028
put those wires underground. looks like a 3rd world country...
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>>71553503
Depends. The cheaper the houses the more foreigners.

It's the suburbs of Utrecht, the fourth city of the country. So relatively many.
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>>71553519
i think they are doing it actually
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>>71553000
Well, this design takes root in a time were there were no niggers.
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>>71553573
How many people can be imprisoned at this facility?
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>>71553606
6 million
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>>71553538
dropped
why must you europeans do this
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>>71553395
Why are netherlands so comfy and sophisticated looking. Burger infrastructure is so depressing and dumbed down.

>tfw america is step above brazil and we are 3rd world-1st world country
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>>71553475
I'm alright with it as long as it's used to improve human lives and not to justify austerity measures and ridiculous bean-counterism.

Picrelated is from my German ADSL modem. The whole device consumes at max. 16,8 Watts, ever, yet the manufacturer thought it would be useful to have energy counters for various components in there.
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>>71553733
That's when "green" becomes just an advertising meme, as it is for most of the things that we do.
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>>71553711
They are a small country without direct military threats nor greater responsibility, have a quiet homogenous hightrust society and this makes the place heaven on earth besides denmark.
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Houses without backyard? This is not healthy.
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>>71553678
Dated policies.

But the Netherlands is very decentralized. All foreigners want to live in the cities in the west, but, as you might have seen on the map, the entire country is densely populated. Not just the cities in the west. And that's because the entire country is covered with small cities and villages. Our entire country is covered in small communities.
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>>71553711
Old culture without commieshit.
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>>71553733
18W is a lot, you dumb nigger
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>>71553711
The fortress cities are top comfy. That pic was where I live, but this is unrelated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7xxJo6drps
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>>71552028

Japan does it because they have very limited land to live on, America has enough land for endless sprawl.
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>>71553508
I used to have money invested in a company out there. Kek.
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>>71553733
Well, why would you complain about a feature you are probably not charged much for?
(even if its nitpicking.)
I believe that often authorative measures are needed to convince people and private companies to think in the future or become a part of an effort that can only be collectivly achieved. Not because I worship nature and hate humans, quiete the opposite. But it is ridiculous to let any of the wealth we can use go to waste in a way that cannot be replenished to a great extend.

Forcing an industry into a niche might be harmful in some way as investors get scared off, the ones that are dependent on you however will be forced to use the wonders of capitalist innovativeness to make lucrative what was not lucrative before, thus finally making the shortcut possible that safes a part the next generations wealth.
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>>71553792
Best burger I've ever had was in NL. A bit overpriced but still awesome as fuck.
http://burgerbar.nl/menu/
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>>71553765
That picture he posted is so comfy looking. Like some well thought out simcity but real.

>highway close to cities, but separated and kept away from city
>gardens, public greenery that is central and well placed
>well structured mixed apartments

Meanwhile in america its:
>Highways going straight through busy areas
>central greenery is out of place and requires you to go out of way to get there
>ancient, unkempt downtowns
>sloppy suburbs either dated or sloppily placed/built that are new
>horrible neighborhoods in between that are rundown
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>>71553979
Yeah. That's also why you can have very slow driving streets. Because you don't have to drive very far through them.
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>>71553860
Yeah, enough to power a fridge bulb. Probably costs 0.05 eur per year.

>>71553970
You just answered yourself. Having my modem count microwatts on its own doesn't matter that much, but in the hands of authoritarians, the same ideology that put those counters there is going to make life miserable for a lot of people. And just like in any authoritarian regime, the end results don't matter shit, as long as you have some strict criteria by which you can measure people's loyalty and "purity".

Luckily I don't think Germany is likely to go that way any time soon. ATM it's just mildly bemusing, as an outsider, to observe the German obsession over conserving resources.
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Oh boy. It's one of these threads where Americans find out that things they idealize are pretty much standard all over the developed world. What's next? We talk about how no one is paid in checks here or tilt windows?

Btw. Japanese cities have a very apparent and disproportionate lack of green spaces.
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>>71554283
Its not an obsession, its an absolute necessity which needs a lot of improving.
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>>71554299
>things they idealize are pretty much standard all over the developed world.
Show me some places in Germany that have Japanese style houses. Go ahead, you should be able to find tons since they are so standard lmao.
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>>71554299
What the kid is groveling about is probably just indicative of where he is. America is far too large to generalize about.

As for Japan, pics like OP's are rare and not the standard. Most photos of Japan remind me of Los Angeles but worse, though I like LA for what it has.
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>>71554365
Germany is actually a gommieblock country.
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>>71554426
Why do self-hating Americans feel the need to grovel to their Eurosempais in every thread for acceptance and self-esteem? It's gross, stop it.
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>>71554486
Countries like Sweden always pretend they have lots of space. But meanwhile.. they all live on top of each other lmao.
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>>71552028
wut
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>>71554283
more like 47.30 Eur/yr

or, lets say every third german has that modem: 1253333302 Eur/yr for german economy
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>>71554487
cause america is a boring country with shit infrastructure
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>>71554584
>please, please accept me into your secret club
wew
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>>71554487
this, american houses are comfy af
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>>71554486
We have many in the "other" category. That's because some people live on boats.
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>>71554487
Oh, I was not bootlicking. You are totally misinterpreting my post unless that imperative "stop it" was directed to the other poster.

>>71554584
You're completely wrong. There's a great article on Breitbart about how congestion has been relieved in American cities through federal funding, though Los Angeles has remained shitty despite the amount of money it gets.

It's easy for some Americans to idealize Europe, but all you need to do is go there and live for a month and you'll see it's not this "socialist paradise" or whatever some teenage redditor might imagine. They're actually quite poor by American standards, but at least they are poor with dignity because their social services work... sort of.
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>>71554722
Living boats look like pure poverty on the outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufs1GiuPW-c

But from the inside they can be quite comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iekx2SBeaKI

Until.. you get mold and rats. Or a tree falls on top of it and it sinks.
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>>71554903
That first video shows someone moving from Amsterdam to Rotterdam.

At least he doesn't have to buy a new house lol.
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>>71553395
Looks like something I had in mind to plan a city but as usual, you can't realise it here because they'll hire ones that fanning the boss's bums and mistrust local's talents. I fucking hate this cunt.
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>>71552028
How much do you get for shilling?
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>>71555342
Shilling?
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>tfw car enthusiast
Why does everyone hate us now? I plan on moving out of the city so I don't contribute to congestion. I don't even commute by car as it is, I usually just drive out if the city on the weekends to relax and enjoy rural roads.

I actually am hoping that people who don't care about cars and commute with them anyway (most drivers) have better access to other means of transportation. That way, we get a huge reduction in congestion and emissions, and the car market becomes more recreational like the motorcycle market since it will be more of a nice in the future.

Everyone wins!
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>>71555896
Hydrogen cars are coming up in 5+ years or so anyway.
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>>71552028
you've obviously never been to japan because their city designs are absolutely horrid and its near impossible to walk anywhere without stepping onto roads
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>>71555953
It'll be neat when it happens.

However, I plan on tinkering with old muscle cars and landyachts for recreational driving when I finally get out of uni, and I'm hoping that no one forces me to stop doing such things. It's such a niche and expensive hobby, and it will become more of a niche in the future as old cars rot and younger generations become more detached from the feels associated with them. I don't see the point in legislation against such a small group
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>>71552028
Japan is the best, no one else can compete!
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>>71552028
We are inferior to the superior nihonjin.
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>>71556629
Speak for yourself, you weeaboo shit!
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>>71554283
>German obsession over conserving resources
A vague cultural memory of one of the main causes of their historical expansionist tendencies, as well as the conflicts and subsequent defeats they suffered because of it.
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>>71553175
t. weeaboo who's never been to Japan let alone had to deal with ass-backwards roads on a daily basis.
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>>71552028
Stop bullying us please with these obvious b8s.
It's getting too much these days.
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>>71556799

Post awesome Baraquilla/Cali houses then.
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>>71552028
Most houses in Japan don't have that sort of walled off privacy, anon.
It depends where you go and how old the housing is. Newer areas are very "western" and most couldn't afford to live in the sort of houses in your op.

>>71552220
Depends where you are. There are a lot of suburbs where the houses are set away from the street or have hedges/walls/fences obscuring them from the road, etc. etc. etc. Your pic related looks like a new housing estate, meaning it's basically a grid type setup with a lot of exposure of the frontage which has a lot to do with the building companies having their houses designed for people to see them, for advertising in a way.
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>>71554487
Just how insecure are you? Raising things you see as worthy of criticism in your country does not mean you are a "self-hating" denizen of said country.
What a fucking stupid attitude.
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>>71552028
Japanese houses are so badly built they only last about 30 to 50 years before being destroyed. I know you guys are fond of cardboard houses in the US, but can the rest of the world be spared?
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>>71558479
>cardboard

Oi it's plywood, show some fucking respect.
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>>71558479
>Japanese houses are so badly built they only last about 30 to 50 years before being destroyed

Yeah, your houses are so sturdy that's why many refugees want to come to Sweden lol
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>>71558479
Do you know the natural phenomenon where the ground violently shakes and things near the surface are destroyed?

How many times has it happened in your country in history?
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>>71556141
>USA
>cars
>niche and expensive hobby
Call back when your premium petrol is $7/gal, and when doing modifications to a classic car or any car for that matter creates a bigger headache in inspections than in the actual mechanical work.
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>>71560678
Even though it might be relatively cheap here, that doesn't eliminate the fact that even for a simple project, you have to drop at least a grand for something that isn't irreparably rusted, and then you might have to spend even more to get it running. There's also the likely rotten fuel lines and brake lines that need replaced, among other wear items. This is all before you decide to either do a restoration or modify it for speed, which could add a few thousand dollars or more to all this.

For most people, and especially with the dying middle class and the employment shortages in areas outside cities, the hobby remains either unattainable or not worth the time and money unless you're truly passionate. Most people would rather spend that money on other things. This isn't the 60's and 70's where every high schooler seemed to be doing engine swaps on their brand new Camaros. The hobby really has become less relevant and smaller with an aging demographic because it just isn't worth it for most people under 40.
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>>71552028
because its emotionless and ugly
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>>71560805
Sad but true. Though there will be new generations of "classic" cars, and I'm sure that classic vehicles will get exemptions from new legislation about things like emissions standards and safety requirements, just as they currently are.
>>71560678
>Government vehicle inspections
>US
I think you're forgetting that you're responding to an American. We have freedom.
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>>71560915
Yeah, it does seem as if the hobby will continue largely as it had, just with a smaller and possibly more tightly knit community. I hugely overreacted when I found out that Bill Nye outspokenly suggests people to give up the hobby. He completely missed the point of it, and thought that we only care about objective figures, and that we should just switch to Teslas for this reason. He has a new show coming out, where he will likely convince a lot of people that we need to give it up for the good of society.

When we have high profile people with plenty of fans saying g shit like this, I sometimes think the hobby will simply be forced into the history books as something from a less enlightened time.
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