>Germany to expand Bundeswehr to almost 200,000 troops &

nice fake news to rile up the usual anti-german hysteria circus.

protip: they cannot increase the number because literally nobody wants to join, except volga germans. since conscription was abolished they failed to fulfill their quota every year.

so basically unless they reintroduce conscription or hire mercenies, nothing will change.

>>71543367
So what? Aren't we allowed to have an small army?

>>71543482
>to rile up the usual anti-german hysteria circus
But I like Germany. Only retards constantly bring up WWII and Nazis. Germany isn't a nationalist and revisionist state like Russia, there's no need to be afraid of you.

>>71543482
>nice fake news to rile up the usual anti-german hysteria circus
You're delusional

>so basically unless they reintroduce conscription or hire mercenaries, nothing will change
Good to know your people are pacifist ninnies now

>>71543639
Good to know our army is too useless to die for America in their retarded wars

>>71543593
Who said that?

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>>71543680
>Being complacent with a waste of money by your own words
>Being proud of it

>>71543639
>Americans would willingly die for Europe

>>71543712
I thought you had problems with the idea of an larger german army.

>>71543680
There not retarted defense companies make a fortune off of them

>>71543758
>Germans would willingly die for Islam

>>71543758
I just wanted to talk about Bundeswehr, but now I regret making this thread.

Fuck /int/.

>>71543367
It's okay we can protect your country from Russia.

>>71543812
Let's talk.

>be Bundeswehr soldier
>be pitied for your shitty job that nobody in society respects
>your weapons and equipment don't work
>all your comrades are Russians
>esprit du corps is forbidden
>traditions are fake, real traditions are forbidden
It should be disbanded and an actual German army that isn't just an American auxiliary corps should be founded by that ship has sailed

>>71543812
Go on /k/ for this

Germans on /int/ are the types to want to abolish NATO because America is in it while trying to push an EU Army and then not submitting any troops for the common defense

They're cowards

>>71543929
we should just create an european army 2bh
sadly, because of their past, germans will never respect military

>>71543929
>Disrespecting the armed forces of his country with his poor memes

Volksverräter was geht?

>>71543808
Kek

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>>71543482
>>71543593
>>71543680
>>71543758
>>71543835
>haha,it's ok, you untermensch, we don't plan on doing anything funny, hahaha, lol, you so paranoid
>*roman salute* Godspeed, untermensch and Heil EU! Diversity is our strength

>>71543953
America is evil and needs to be overthrown.

>>71543993
You sound like you also think I'm a Volksverräter for not voting for Mutti

>>71543929
>>be Bundeswehr soldier

Do it pay very much money?

>>71543953
This. All the masculine Germans were killed off 70 years ago.

>germany got more refugees in 6 months than troops in their army
hmm i wonder how well could it go

>>71544026
Spanish auxiliaries will fight in the first line and shot if they turn around or speak up against their German officers.

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>>71544028
*Shoots you with .50 caliber super-velocity ultra lethal assault AR-47 fully automatic assault glock made by Deagle Inc.*
counder-derrorisds win yed agen :DDD

>>71543993
Not him, but he is right. The Bundeswehr is an army of mercenaries without any identity.

>>71544049
Du scheinst die Bundeswehr nicht zu schätzen.

>>71544060
No.

>>71544076
Better than Brazil.

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>German militarism is a cancer, we must destroy the German military to ensure peace in the world
>REEE Germany why do you hate the military why won't you support our wars REEE why are you pacifists now REEE

>>71544127
Did you serve?

>>71544148
Only things separating you from Brazilians at this point is money and islam.

>>71544087
>"It is difficult to imagine bravest soldiers. Hardly they take cover, death-defying. I know, in any case, that our men are happy when they have the Spaniards for neighbors. Hitler, 1943"
If you ask nicely I might actually give you a hand again, but this time, instead of getting triggered by the idea that Spain is doing better than you against Russia, don't just kick us out of the war.

>>71544153

The German military now is to the USA what the likes of Bulgaria and Slovakia were to Germany in WW2, along with the other nato countries.

>>71544192
>what did he mean with this?

>>71544266
Yes and they are butthurt because like some American general put it back in the day "They thought they would get a democratic Waffen-SS but didn't understand that wasn't possible"

>>71544177
No. I would really like to join, but everyone who has served, says that it's boring and a bunch of drunktards. And I see how the Bundeswehr represents itself with a pop-cultural face. I don't like that.
Everything they do doesn't look authentic.

Did you serve? If yes, explain me what is still so traditional about the modern "German" army.

>>71544338
>the Anglo is holding us back again

As long as Germany exists it will try to gain power over continental Europe.

>>71543929
>esprit du corps is forbidden
>traditions are fake, real traditions are forbidden

Really??

Not too late
Western European countries and Japan has ultra-low military budget, everyone in the world except us is raising their military

>>71544470
>explain me what is still so traditional about the modern "German" army.
Getting drunk all day, I bet they did that already in old Prussian times even though it's verboten to associate evil Prussia with the true army of citizens in unform

>>71543680

German army personell is fighting on Iraq atm.

>>71544536
You guys would drink beer on rifle ranges.

>>71544491
well, it already did
through economical means this time

>>71544513
Yeah well they actively reject the tradition of the armies of the world wars and when the soldiers try to take up these traditions (which they do of course because as a soldier you want to associate with the good looking guys who conquered Europe rather than face the fact that all you ever will do is patrol shitholes like Kosovo) they get reprimanded. A while ago I read an article about the Bundeswehr andt hey mentioned the soldiers having painted a huge mural of the battle of Kurks in their barracks, their CO then ordered them to remove it. But they can paint my little pony shit so that's that.

>>71544470
First of all I didn't serve but I have friends that did and some still do.

1.Doing nothing and getting drunk is a thing but that's normal in every army

2.

Short version: Blame the nazis for abusing Prussian military traditions

What do you exactly mean with authentic?

>>71544536
The Bundeswehr doesn't seem Prussian at all. Only the Zapfenstreich. The rest seems like americanised shit.

>>71543993
Reality is even more depressing than his memes.

>>71544148
>>71544192

The fuck we have to do with this?

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>>71544603
i wonder what americans drink

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>>71544664
America bases it's military off of the Prussian model

I have heard of this before. There are plans to abolish some of the restricting laws regarding Bundeswehr, since the brits are not holding back anymore.

Germany needs to step up as the leader of EU, militarily aswell.

>>71544664
>Americanised

What exactly?

>>71544709
They are just butthurt because the Bundeswehr isn't playing some old songs and marching funny.

>>71543367
nice. imho they can do whatever they want as long as they don't attack or directly provoke russia

>>71544729
>Germany needs to step up as the leader of EU, militarily aswell.
I think France would work better as military leader.
In Germany, military is really unpopular in public opinion

>>71544809
Dont worry Russia, we are in no way planning to recover our lost Lebensraum

>>71544818
>unpopular in public

It's an unpopular career choice but I have never heard someone insulting the Bundeswehr.

>>71544809
Belarus and Ukrainian for NATO soon.

>>71544663
>What do you exactly mean with authentic?
Well, the Bundeswehr doesn't seem like a real army. I don't really know how to explain my view on th Bundeswehr. It's like their media team use licence-free stock footage for promo. Seems more like the Bundeswehr only exists to have a reason to export weapons.

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>>71544867
Not yet...

>>71544643
link

>>71543367

Okay, what's wrong with that? From Germany's perspective, that is.

>>71544892
well, not insulting, but you wont hear people say "god bless the troops" like in America

>>71544695

We are scapegoats.

>>71544643
Why not try and give it a Prussian aesthetic, surely they cannot reject the history containing Bismarck and the creation of Germany

The Bundeswehr was created to be destroyed, that's the problem. Everyone expected the Cold War to escalate and so the Americans founded the BW to have a meatshield that would sacrifice itself in order to buy them time if the Russians would invade Western Europe.
Everyone expected that would happen and the Bundeswehr as well as Germany to be destroyed in the process. They didn't need traditions because they were Wehrmacht veterans who knew how to die fighting Communists anyway and didn't give a fuck about regulations regarding traditions. they had their experiences and wore their Nazi medals.

Because that didn't happen there's basically an army no one wants or needs anymore and that has no traditions. Just like the governments of France and Britain still cry themselves to sleep because Germany wasn't nuked to oblivion by the soviets and the force de frappe, so does the German government not know what to do with their unpopular army.

>>71544905
But how does an army feels like?

>>71544961
To be fair we aren't in a war.

Nodzees :DDDD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5W5ynP53-Y

>>71544643
Are you serious ?
>>71544818
>I think France would work better as military leader.

Well not now, our army sucks, it's full of shitskins/traitors/careerist
We also have several problems with shitty equipment

>>71544702
On ranges water, coffee, and energy drinks. The military tries to reducing drinking, but the military has its own drinking culture soooo yeah.

>>71545117
The Bundeswehr is not allowed to have parades for example. Parades are only allowed in the shape of international parades, which include several nations.
An army which is not allowed to have its own parades doesn't seem like a sovereign, strong army.

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>>71544548
They've invaded Lithuania too. As long as they leave Estonia alone then fine, protecting them is our job.

>>71545203
I was doing guard duty at the side gate one night while drunk, the Sergeant Major drives up in his car, (oh shit), I walk up to the car, realize he is also drunk as fuck.
We talk like old bros for a few minutes, then he leaves.

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>>71545254
Britain trains in Germany and with the Germans all the time, no worries.

>>71545224
Parades are not forbidden wtf. They just don't do it.

>>71544548
No they're not, and if they are then it's covert and basically illegal.

So what i get from this, is that German re-enactment groups have more of a military tradition than the actual German Military?

>>71544548
>fighting

They are only training the savages to fight.

I fucking hate Germany. They manage to be utter self-loathing cravens but somehow arrogant as fuck as well.

>>71545363
There is not really a German military tradition but a Prussian. Prussia is dead you killed it.

What Germany/Western Europe needs is a good old-fashioned war. A Russo-Turkish joint invasion might convince them to up their NATO contributions.

>>71545428
Shut up monarchcuck.

>>71545203
How's cigs? I've never had to smell so much smoking as during conscription. You get used to it quite fast, but it felt like half of our squad was constantly either smoking, complaining they couldn't smoke atm or using snuff. The last has a sizeable black market among conscripts, where even people who didn't use the stuff brought it from trips to either Sweden or Russia to sell it to fellows.

Alcohol is a whole other matter. In the past you could buy beer inside the camp, but in nowdays you have to drink it during leaves. Being drunk is accepted as long it doesn't affect your service.

>>71545464
Of course there's a German military traditions, several states of the empire had their own armies with their own traditions, these were later taken over by the Reichswehr and then the Wehrmacht, when the Wehrmacht was defeated and disbanded these traditions ended, not just the Prussian one. The Wehrmacht actually had units like the Braunschweig Death Head Hussars or the Austrian Deutschmeister Regiment which stemmed from the Teutonic order etc and carried their traditions.

>>71544026
Delet

>>71545361

Iraq.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtcX6NMOKM

Afghanistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyO-SCiqfx0

>>71543367
About fucking time.

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>>71545476

Of course you think that. Someone needs to make an Uncle Sam verision of pic related.

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>>71545464
Blame Stalin, not us.
In fact if not for us Holstein would have been Soviet occupied, Rosy eyed Americans completely trusted the Soviets, we werent so sure and so pushed as far as possible.
However we couldnt even keep Poland safe

These were the Absolute maximum border shifts we would accept, Stalin ignored us.
We didnt really do anything about it per-se but it didnt help relations.
Also there was a German military tradition, it was just very regional / didnt get much beyond feudalism. Bavaria and Hanover and Saxony certainly had their own though, as well as Prussia
He was a cunt

>>71545538
We got cigs really cheap, they gave us ration cards that only allowed us to buy a certain amount per month.

Alcohol was also really cheap on base, we got drunk every night.

>>71545705
I just wanted to express that the Prussian influence was overwhelming compared to the others.

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>>71545508
>current year
>not having a monarch as head of state but instead some career politician

>>71544206
>refugees
>working

They just shit around all day complaining they dont get special treatment even though they do.

>>71545789
Thats because Prussia was the largest, most powerful and the founding state behind Germany.
Prussian influence can live on now that East Germany is back, and the Russians even offered the mutilated remains called Kaliningrad but your own Government is so afraid of the concept of Prussia or Nationalism and even its own people that it is unlikely to return, you are going to continue voting the same idiots in because theyre the "best choice", or "theres nobody else" so nothing will ever change

>>71545834
I now a few and I have seen where they live. It's prettt shity and crowded. I talked to them and they want to work as they get almost no money (they get food and clothes directly instead of the money for it). The problem is the bureaucracy, they have to wait a looooong time to get a working permission.

>>71544206
>Germany got more people who will claim benefits while working under the table for cash and then sending half of it to their home country resulting in a reduction of money in the circular flow of income causing a drop in Growth as well as the leeching of taxpayer money which could have been spent on the German people or remitted which means consumer and state spending has been effectively reduced which will damage the economy
But yeah theyre really going to help, such smart economic policy, who wouldnt want them

>>71545834
They aren't even allowed to work legally, all they can do is sit around in their ghettos and build up aggression. That's why they keep killing each other all the time.

>>71546111
Still foreigners give more then they receive.

>Germany has announced it will increase the number of soldiers
Always great news for us.

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My body is ready

I want them to re-introduce conscription and push all the young leftists into the army. Not because I think they'd make especially good soldiers, but because they're scared of boom-booms and the army forces you to use them.

>>71546006
>>71546132

Wtf thats mean...

>>71546150
>Still foreigners give more then they receive.
>muuuuuh Fachkräfte

No matter what they do, they replace us ethnic Germans because we have too few children and a more family friendly policy isn´t wanted.
Even if they could cure cancer and shit goldnuggets, this problem perists.

>>71546333
We'll can't blame them if we don't have enough children.

>>71546396
No, not really. But we can blame our government for doing nothing or even pushing replacement migration.

>>71546316
It means they do not have the permission to work because the whole administration can't keep up with the masses of refugees because Merkel just said fuck t over night so basically they are put into ghettos and rot there.

>>71546460
>they work without permission
>that's illegal
>get deported

Sounds like a good idea.

>>71546150
>give more then they receive.
True. If you're referring to number of Döners.

The Bundeswehr is an American puppet army. Simple as that. Same with the JSDF. Most of the Bundeswehr's equipment is rotting away in storage and the other half is hardly maintained.

>>71546150
Only the highly skilled ones or the ones who work in very specific jobs such as academics, lawyers, businessmen and doctors- but there arent very many of these and they drive up competition for work half the time which pisses people off

So the only ones you really want are the ones who are willing to work in jobs which frankly, people , even low class ones, arent keen on; Care home workers and fruit pickers really.

>>71546510
Ronny bitte.

http://m.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/a-1005217.html

>>71546564
Basically all European armies are American puppet armies, they are just in denial about it. The difference is their armies weren't founded specifically as puppet armies which I think is the underlying problem of the Bundeswehr.

>>71546618
67% of foreigners pay more than they receive. Only 60% of the Germans pay more than they receive.

>>71546637
What the fuck i LOVE Volkstod now.

>>71546637
>Dem Wirtschafts-Opium auf dem Leim gehen.
Deine Enkel sind eine Minderheit, wenn deine Kinder nicht mit Musels oder Niggern vögeln.
Wie sicher meine Rente ist, kann mir egal sein wenn die Sicherheit meiner Enkelkinder durch die von mir gewählte Flüchtlingspolitik deutlich verschlechtert wird.

if i have German citzienship (grandpa was in SS) can i easily join bundeswehr?

>>71546807
>>71546804
Genau weil die sich von 5% mal eben in wenigen Jahrzehnten auf über 50% erhöhen.

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>>71546150
>Still foreigners give more then they receive.
I can't believe the primary funding power of the EU can say this with a straight face. Germans have truly been castrated.

>>71546887
>5%

In welcher Welt...
Ein Musel ist nicht unbedingt ein Ausländer. Moslems sind bei 5%, Migrationshintergrund bei 20%
Wenn die Babyboomer gestorben sind und deren Kinder bereits alt, wie sieht die Jugend dann aus?

>>71546827
A man of your background will one day make a fine company latrine officer.

>>71547051
i am not Polish i don't speak the language i speak Silesian

>>71546887
Ah, der klassische 'alles ist super' Gutmensch.

Weißt du wieviele Deutsche in der Klasse der Tocher meines Nachbarn sind? 2. Von 20.

Und nein, Türken zählen nicht als deutsch. Das tun die nur in deiner rosaroten Schweinwelt, du Suppenkasper.

>>71546945
Just look at the numbers hombre. It's true.


>>71547008
Die meisten von denen sind Europäer uezs. Neger sind nicht mal bei 1%.

>>71547121
Selber schuld wenn man nicht aufs Gymnasium geht. Auch heißt das doch absolut garnichts wenn man sich die gesamten Zahlen ansieht, Anekdoten bringen dich da nicht weiter.

>>71547130
>Die meisten von denen sind Europäer uezs.

Das ändert sich momentan gewaltig. Früher kamen die meisten Flüchtlinge aus Ostdeutschland und dem restlichen Ostblock. Darauf sind noch viele Gesetze zugeschnitten.
Heute sind es "Syrer" und Afrikaner.
Osteuropa kam zur Ruhe, der nahe Osten flammt erst auf und Afrika wird stärker mit dem Klimawandel zu kämpfen haben.
In den Regionen werden in Zukunft die großen Flüchtlingsströme beginnen.

>>71547255
Klar ist das Gymnasium. Was sonst? Hauptschule? Da ist der Ausländeranteil 100%.

2 von 20 ist aber ne absolute Zahl, und keine Anekdote. Das ist Fakt.

>>71547255
>Selber schuld wenn man nicht aufs Gymnasium geht.

Geh mal in eine innerstädtische Kita, da sind noch alle gleich.
Deutscher ist es dort aber nicht. Der Ausländeranteil nimmt am Fuße der Bevölkerungs"pyramide" am stärksten zu.

>>71545175
And still it's the best in Europe...which just shows how the European armies are shit really. But hey, as long as we have the US...

>>71547374
Checkst es nicht wie ich sehe.

>>71546748
Link to some stats please, highly doubt that, however could be believable because East Germany, well ,15 years ago anyway

>>71547130
You give them asylum, political stability, a developed country and the chance at a fully western live -something not even all people in Southern Europe get- and you think they "pay more than they get"?

>>71547255
Hallo Realitätsverweigerer. Wie lebt es sich in deiner Traumwelt?

>>71547463
Du checkst es nicht. Und du wirst es auch nie.

>>71547463
>wer ein Pass hat, ist Deutscher

Wir sind das Gespött der Welt. Über uns wird man lachen, weil wir jede Eigenheit, Kultur und Tradition gegen Multikulturalismus tauschten und schlussendlich darin untergegangen sind.

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>>71545476
>What x need is a good war
Said no one sane, ever.
>>71543639
>pacifist ninnies
Am*rigans everyone..

>>71543482
Is the pay good? Can foreigners join?

>>71547582
Laß den Clown doch weiterleben in seiner Traumwelt. Der glaub auch die Welt beneidet uns um unseren Multikultiwahn.

>>71547699
Ja, das hat keinen Zweck.

>>71547532
Ganz ehrlich, wie kann man so lächerlich dämlich sein. Und das traurigste ist dass die meisten """deutschen""" so drauf sind wie du. Erbärmlich. Deine Vorfahren drehen sich in ihren Gräbern um. Leute wie du haben dieses Land und ganz Europa zerstört.

>>71547830
>Deine Vorfahren drehen sich in ihren Gräbern um.
Das stimmt. Wenn die Deutschland in dem heutigen Zustand sehen würden.
>Leute wie du haben dieses Land und ganz Europa zerstört.
Okay. Langsam wirds lächerlich, Grüne Jugend.

>>71547830
Leute die dieses ewige Klischee "die Deutschen ruinieren Europa" transportieren sind doch auch ncht besser, ihr tut immer so als wärt ihr die Patrioten und übernehmt dann jedes anti-Deutsche Klischee

>>71547373
Wie alt ist die Tochter denn? In den ersten Klassen kann dass schon gut sein spätestens im Abitur aber nimmt die Ausländerzahl drastisch ab

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>you will never ride a tank in the spearhead against Russia

Why live desu? Malta not being in NATO and Turkey being in it makes me livid.

>>71548013
Das weiß ich selbst, war bei mir auch so. Aber bei 90% Ausländeranteil für 6.te Klasse kann mir keiner mehr erzählen, dass das so in Ordnung ist. Da bleiben auch beim Abitur locker noch 50% über.

>>71547995
Bist du dämlich? Nationalismus bzw. Patriotismus hat für mich jegliche Bedeutung verloren. Ich sehe mich nicht mehr als deutscher sondern als Europäer. Ich habe mit weißen Europäern mehr gemein als mit einem schwarzen oder brauen "deutschen".

>>71548626
Das nennt man falsches Dilemma

>>71548626
>Ich habe mit weißen Europäern mehr gemein als mit einem schwarzen oder brauen "deutschen".
Wow, Brudi. Das ist echt rassistisch.

>>71543482
I'd join but I'm a manlet

>>71548626
>Nationalismus bzw. Patriotismus hat für mich jegliche Bedeutung verloren.

Das Gegenargument bringst du gleich mit.

>Ich sehe mich nicht mehr als deutscher sondern als Europäer.

Das ist Patriotismus im größeren Maßstab und je nach politischer Ausrichtung sogar Europa-Nationalismus.

>>71543482
How to get Prussian descended gf?

>>71545705
source?

>>71546945
It's just sad, I think it is too late.

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>>71549667
My folders are a mess atm but i have this

>>71543639
>Germany
>landlocked by friends and allies
>army is full of people who are unable to get shit done in there life
gee I wonder why no one wants to join anymore.
I servered two years and I am glad as hell that I'm out of this big boys kindergarden
The pay is good tho, but no pay in the world can make up for useless drills and taking orders from loosers who just served there whole life and got the ranks by time

>>71550889

Here its seen in a much more positive light, its not hero worship like in America but more seen as a sign of character/ strength , pay isnt great (at least not compared to what the people who are officers could earn) and its a lot of physical work as our standards are pretty high, but i dont think we would be short of recruits if we wanted 200,000 or even 400,000.

German one sounds a bit dead though, no life to it, no traditions and few ceremonial occasions and little history as youre regimental continuity doesnt seem to have fared well

If youre German you may as well go do re-enactment, you actually can get a spectacle
Or just go watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boImKf5625o

>>71544148
>>71544695
>>71545018
Stop bullying Brazil please.

>>71543482
>Germany starting to meet the NATO requirements
>Hysteria

fuck off

They will never reach the Prussian precision the NVA had, that was a real German army.

>>71543367
>Implying anyone would want to join that train wreck
>Implying anyone would really die for Merkel while Mtumbo lives of the taxes you pay
>Implying they wont coup the gouvernment the second the war starts
>Impying they dont have such a lack of equipment that 10.000 more soldiers wont worsen the situation
I mean they can try to draft people, but since there are no young Germans left and the few who are around would never join the BW, that would end in utter failure.

>>71545705
>we
>us

Unless youre 90 years old then fuck off faggot.

>>71553672
ha they were a paper tiger, they looked sharp but that's it and you cannot be a real German army if you fight for communism anyway

>>71543613
Cuckwashed

>>71543367

Sounds a bit stupid desu. They should spend the requested 2% moneys in productive things, like tapping the communications of the amerifats, cyberwarfare dpts and so on.

>>71543482

>rile up anti-german hysteria

Nah, that's no longer a thing even if you build up a massive force. Furthermore, as things go with russkis and ameritrumps, I'd personally welcome a reinforced german army. The only issue with that is that France is supposed to stand as the toppest military in Europe, so they would have to scale up too.

>>71545811
Who is that laughing jew in the middle?

>>71553989
I'm 22 and i already served in the BW not going back to that bullshit again.

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>unify your command structure into der Großer Generals- I mean, das Kommando Heer in 2012
>Create a "multinational corps" for "peacekeeping operations" with Dutch manpower
>Agree to "deeper cooperation" in 2016
>Commit troops with NATO across eastern europe
>Expand the army in 2017

>people believe it's not happening

I KNEW IT I KNEW THEY'D START THE THIRD ONE

>>71543953
Are you autistic?
Leaving the Nato would be in our best interest, we arent acting in your interest buddy.

>>71544695
i think he is referring to our military strength.

>>71543808
haha xD you sure showed him XDDDD

>>71543482
id be a german soldier

>>71546292
how is conscription in austria

>>71563697
>fighting for kikes and burgers.
I'd only fight to take clay.

>>71555721
Autism speaks

Poland and France should invade before they do that.

>>71558290
The 2% is Trump scan on how to sell USA military equipment without starting another proxy war in mudslim shithole. Military complex is monstrosity bro

>>71563909
me too
whens our next attempt? you must plan something with all the dosh you make from the EU

>>71543482
Are Volga Germans still distinguished people group? How about the descendants of the rest 12 million Germans expelled from around Eastern Europe?

>>71566545
All we need is to split and cuck poland with russia. They are becoming too uppity.

>>71567531
Volga Germans are just Russians with German last names and the rest are Germans.

>>71567531
The expelees, who are still alie, are still pissed off, but apparently theres no real difference between them and the real west Germans, those who stayed in East Germany however are apparently different- Communism does things to a man but i suppose you would know all about that wouldnt you?