>type an A with a dot >pronounce it as an O wow, skandis

>type an a with two dots
>pronounce it as an E

wow, germans are truly the masterrace

>>71303372
Tschiahs tu Käk änd Pehpe du Untermensch

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>>71303231
>type a U with two dots
>pronounce it as a U

>type a freakshow B
>pronounce it as an S

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>>71303535
>as a Y*
I fucked it up

>>71303535
Yep this

y > ü

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>>71303535
tää

>>71303640
Poles do this too

it's very annoying

>>71303372
god fucking damnit I swear to god I hate your country even more than Albania.

>>71303640
actually, ü makes a lot more sense considering we've also got ä and ö representing similar front versions of a and o

@71303462
@71303688
Blocked.

>>71303231
What are you talking about? Å and Ǿ sounds completely different..

>>71303683
I thought their y was Russian ы that is different from ü.

reminder that your language is pleb tier if it doesn't contain at least three of these letters:
>a å ä æ
>u ü
>o ö o
>ß
>ë

>>71303710
But what would "y" be then? Useless letters are not good (å)

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>>71303792
nippon please

>>71303820
(In Finnish obviously)*

>>71303830
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language
y as ü is Centum language thing.
Slavs use y as a different sound.

>>71303820
>>71303875
y can fuck off

>>71303798

>looks like a b
>double s

>>71304054
you're right, poles use Y as an "eu"

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>Tsch = Ç
>Sch = Ş
>Dsch = C
>Oe = Ö
>Ue = Ü

> Árvíztűrő tükörfúrógép
> Hupikék törpikék

But do you have Π?

>tfw no ê

>>71304514
stupid letter, you already have e for that sound.

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>>71304349

I like turk letters friendo

Ceddin deden neslin baban.

>>71304514
Æ
close enough

>>71304623
>tfw no þ or ð

>english
>type an A
>pronounce whatever because english is retarded

>>71304459
>'dzs' counts as a single letter in Hungarian

tfw no Æ.

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>>71304459
>bye = viszontlátásra

>tfw no z x c q w å þ

>>71303231
We don't pronounce it as O though?

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>>71304757
> cs dz dzs gy ly ny sz ty zs

>>71303683
wat? we don't have "ü" though. and our "y" is really like russian ы
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OdmDfRdEfM
that is how i'd say "kys" with polish letters

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>anglos use 7 letters to write 3 sounds of the word "through"

>>71305004
kek

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>type an l
>stroke it out
>pronounce as w
>type a w
>pronounce as v

>type a a with some shit attached to it
>pronounce as ow

>type a szcz
>and other unpronunciable clusters

>type e with two dots
>pronounce it as ''yo''

Wow, slavs truely are the master race

>>71306003
>type y
>pronounce as y
Finns are ok

>>71306003
>type a bunch of worms
>pronounce it

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>*Ape noises*

>>71306219
so sad Aboriginals can't manage to learn other languages than english, because they're too hard

>å
What do we even do with this shit

>>71304254
>you're right, poles use Y as an "eu"
No they don't, putę

>>71306924
https://translate.google.pl/#fr/pl/eu

click the speaker icon

>>71303231
Thats fine, the problem is with "e", i never know how it sounds... "Jeg" = "Iai", however, "fire" = "fyre" - notice that the |e| phonema changes randomly. Dialects are the worst part, in Bergen is a whole new language

>>71306999
fug
I assumed he meant "eu" in IPA, not in frogspeak
Why are frogs so self-centered

>>71303372
But Gypsy, we have Ä in Swedish as well.

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>>71306823
sry, you have to follow our customs

>>71303231
So "skåne" (the province Scandinavia is named for; historically Danish, now southern Sweden) is pronounced "Skone"?

>>71304725
>tfw no ᚠᚢᚦᚨᚱ

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>>71303231
>germans write letters above each other to make new letters: a + e = ä
>skandis adopt german writing and start doing the same thing: a + a = å
>germans start picking on skandis

>>71307437
Almost. The sound doesn't properly exist in english.

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>>71306999
I thought it has to be pronounced like ü

>>71307557
> the sound doesn't properly exist in english
No, you retards just have retarded orthography.

There isn't any sound that doesn't exist in another language. They're just represented differently.

You idiots have a intermediary between A and O, which isn't a proper vowel.

Kill yourself.

>>71307657
t. buttmad newworlder

>>71303231
It's not an A, it's an arrow.

>>71307657
>There isn't any sound that doesn't exist in another language. They're just represented differently.
massive troll kys desu

anglos are the worst at linguistics ever I swear

I was gonna explain how å works but now I'm not lol

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>>71303798
Ooooooy ёёёёёёё! Aгa))))

>>71306219
actually just "privet" or "zdorov brat'youn', kak zhizn'?"

>>71303231
>be german
>german language
>no profit

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>مفو وسترنرز كانت إنتو أربك لانغوج

>type a
>pronounce it as a
>type e
>pronounce it as e
>type i
>pronounce it as i
>type o
>pronounce it as o
>type u
>pronounce it as u
>type y
>pronounce it as y

this is why spanish is the best language

>>71308918
>type h
>its silent
>type j
>its pronounced as h
>type two l's
>its pronounced as j

Also
>type y
>pronounce it as i

>>71307807
pls explain ;)

>>71308030

>tfw can read arabic script because taking class
>can't read it on 4chan because too small
>can't understand it because don't pay attention in class

>>71309026
h is silent but it can denote a pause, so it is not useless

>type j
>its pronounced as h
yeah but it never changes

>type two l's
>its pronounced as j
fair eough

>type y
>pronounce it as i
isnt that how its usually pronounced as a vowel? spanish uses it as a consonant too

>>71309502
just hold ctrl and scroll upward you dum dum

>>71309510
Danes and Finns, among others, pronounce it like this.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Close_front_rounded_vowel.ogg

>>71306219
>3
Oh just fuck off Russia

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>>71309758

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>>71309453
there was a vowel shift where /a:/ became /o:/, but /o:/ already existed when this happened so the old /o:/ and a lot of other vowels had to shift and become other sounds to keep the phoneme difference

but since we already used all the letters in the alphabet for different sounds we kept writing this new /o:/ sound as a long a
laat = /lo:t/

then we put the a's on top of each other: å
låt = /lo:t/

>>71311452
and in english Skåne would sound like skauneh or skawnuh

>>71309873
suka blyat))))))

>>71311521
>implying that's not how Scanians themselves pronounce it

>>71311542
wow so funny

>>71311621
scanians pronounce it in at least three different ways

>>71309653
this is your fault not mine

>>71311963
no it's your fault, the original greek language had i and y as different vowels just like us

>>71303231
>type an U with two dots
>pronounce it as Y

>>71303535
>type an A with a ring
>pronounce it as an O
>type an O
>pronounce it as an U
>type an U
>pronounce it as ?!?!?!?

If your language's alphabet has more than 26 letters it's a non-language

>>71314061
>tfw 32

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>>71306823
Spell Swedish names. You're not racist against your Swedish speaking population, are you?

>>71314061
>doesnt even have his own language

>>71303372
This. In Switzerland we actually have a sound for the Ä.

>>71309653

Spanitards and spics have one neuron for each vowel they have (a,e,i,o,u)

I am a Catalan, so I am aware that there are more than five possible vowels, and can actually distinguish between "y" and "i".

Just don't try making them understand this, it is useless. They even fail at properly speaking my language when they live and have children here, which is supposed to be close to Spanish (As both are Romance languages)

>>71303798
We got a,u, and o, so we're good.

>>71303571
They do pronounce it as a U, though. Not as a Y.

>>71315336

German Ü is supposed to oscillate between ʏ and y.
Apparently, both are also present in Norwegian and Swedish, but they tend to be more protruded ( ʏ̫ y̫ ), maybe that is why you hear it different.

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>>71315336
>>71315646

The pic shows the different kinds of rounding.

(Germans tend to compress, Nords to protrude.)

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>>71314996
>a burger is the only one noticing my joke here

>>71314278
6 million fennoswedes.
Makes me think. I'm so sorry.

>>71303231
ą ę ć ż ź ó ń ł

>>71315646
to me y, ʏ, ɨ and J̈ sound exactly the same

>>71305655
You need to go back

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>>71314938
>tfw too smart to use more than 5 vowels

>>71316552

y and ɨ sound the same to me, while ʏ sounds clearly different.

And I do not know what J̈ is.

>>71309873
3ApaBCTByNTe to you as well Ivan

>>71311521
With an upper-class british accent, it'd be pronounced basically scawnuh

>>71303798
Su idioma no tiene la
>Ñ

>>71307657
You dumb nigger the " th"sound doesn't exist is Portuguese

The guttural r doesn't exist in English.

Kys

>>71316111
6 billion* you antiswedite

>>71317244
>>71317244
6 billion?
It was at least 6 trillion

>>71317244
>>71317358
Youre right, I think we should give them lapland as their own country to apologize for our horrible crimes

>>71317646
We already have a Lapland

>>71314938
This is what has always annoyed me in Castilian. There's just 5 sounds. You sound like a retard at a dentist appointment.

It's very hard for them to sound serious to me, because they vocalize like a little kid would.

No wonder Cervantes liked Portuguese and most Spanish poetry up to the 14th century was in Galaico-Portuguese.

>>71307437
Think of the "o" in "lord".

>>71309026
>be Danish
>type any letter
>pronounce it as g

>>71314278
The most funny thing about this that all the actual rich Fennoswedes due to being massive Finnboos voluntarily fennicized themselves. "We are no longer Swedes, and we do not wish to become Russians, let us become Finns" the thinking went.

Pretty much only rural, often poor, people retained Swedish en masse.

>>71311621
JÄJ KÄMMER FRA SKUOOOOOOONEEEEE

>>71317848

Do they sound like Spurdos?

>>71318316
Actually they kind of do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gSX30XOHmQ

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why doesn't norwegian have þ or ð

>>71317084
CONTEMPTUS

>>71319050
Blame the Saxon and Latin scum, they cucked the mainlands Scandinavian languages during the middle ages.

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>>71314938
>I am a Catalan

dropped

>>71319050
They're both th, a sound that we don't use anymore.

>>71319050
jesus fucking christ, your regional flag...

>>71318981

It is kind of painful to listen at. It is like if they were constantly "devoicing" consonants. Maybe it is because in Catalan, my mother tongue, we have many stop consonants, obstruents, monosyllabic words, and maybe some "harsh" sounds, and I am used to that. It has some atypical characteristics for a Romance language. We don't add, for example, vowels at the end of words like in Spanish or Italian.
Interestingly, one of those characteristics is the final-obstruent devoicing. While shared with German, Dutch... It is not present in North-Germanic languages (including Danish), or only partially.

At any rate, Danish sounds stressful to me.

>>71318981
>>71319543

By Danes "constantly devoicing" consonants I mean making them "silent", not making them "voiceless", to clarify.

>>71319543
>>71319578
Danish puts the stress in me too.

In Swedish and Norwegian, you usually pronounce most letters in a word. The Danes, as you say, devoice consonants. It's possible to understand as a Swedish speaker, it's not impossible as some people think, but you pretty much have to change the way you expect words to sound.

Reading Danish is much easier.

How is the relationship between written Catalan and written Spanish? Easier/harder to understand than spoken?

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>>71319504
>jesus christ, you state in general...

>>71320172
your*

@71307657
>There isn't any sound that doesn't exist in another language. They're just represented differently.


Top tier bait. I won't even give you the (You)

>>71320750
your language is the worst piece of shit on this fucking planet.

はひふへほ HaHiHuHeHo
ばびぶべぼ BaBiBuBeBo
ぱぴぷぺぽ PaPiPuPePo

>>71303372
Except ä sounds nothing like e. You can make the e sound with your teeth clenched, but not the ä sound.

>>71320837
your language is the worst piece of shit on this fucking planet.

>>71320816
I had a mistype, sorry.
I updated >>71320837

>>71320947
yeah, I figured, I feel the same though, change your language into a decent one.

>>71303372
It isn't pronounced as an e...

>>71320837
stop

>>71303640
>>71303535
The y is sometimes pronouced a bit differently.

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>>71304130
>>71303535
It makes sense if you look at the old German handwriting Sütterlin.

>>71319938

Like it usually happens between Romance languages, I think that written forms are more intelligible, because (specially in Catalan) they reflect etymology besides pronounciation.

Still, a Spanish speaker would have a very hard time deciphering written Catalan when heavy grammar differences or non-Latin vocabulary appear (a Scandinavian would unironically have it easier).
Spanish "cuchillo" is Catalan "ganivet", originally a diminutive of "Ganif" or "ganivet", means "knife", cognate with Swedish kniv (Proto Germanic knibaz)

In Spanish you say "rato", we Catalans say "estona", which means "a while", an unespecific (not long) amount of time. Cognate with Swedish stund.

I could go on...

Of course, most of our vocabulary is of Latin origin, but as you can see, these "exceptions" are part of the core vocabulary, they are kind of essential, and very frequent in "every-day" language

>>71320895
*knock knock*

>>71321664
Canivete also means knife here. Usually an army-knife. I think that's latin.

Catalan is just less arabicised than Castillian, memes aside. It's probably closer to Latin, I'd say.

Portuguese/Galician also kept a lot more celtic influence from being further away from the Roman and Arab central points so we always had less influence from new things (much like now), which is why we sound slavic.

>>71324230

Yeah, frenchies also have "canif" for refering to a short army-knife.
It is a Germanic word, whether directly inherited from Frankish, Gothic... or indirectly from another Latin language depends on each case.

And you are probably right. Castillian might be the "weird one" amongst us.

>>71325116
It's not just Arabic influence, to be fair. Even if Castilian has the most of it, it also has the most Basque influence as well.

You guys have the French/Occitan and we have whatever weird shit the Celtics spoke.

Too bad our brother Leonese is just about extinct. We could've been 4 neat little stripes running Iberia from north to south.

>>71303372
ä is another letter, it's not pronounced e, same for å

ä = э
e = e

>>71307544
If you read ae in German, it sounds totally different. The reason to write ae instead of ä is only ASCII. In the past machines in bureaucracy were not able to handle ä, ö, ü.

>english
>draught and draft are variant spellings, as are hiccup and hiccough
we are truly the masterrace

German Ü is French U
Swedish Ö is French E

>>71304128
>>71303820
In the old German language there was no Y it's I instead. It's a letter which got taken over from latin.

But Ü sounds a bit more different, it's like the one in swedish. It has nothing to do with U either.
>is like the English word “wit” but round your lips as if whistling

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>>71318035
This is about the extent of it. Fennomans were the extreme finnboos who finnified their names in most cases even dropped swedish.

Many such cases. Like for example Axel Waldemar Gallén who changed his name to Akseli Gallen-Kallela.