How do you guys think the Chinese are going to lead the world

All I can say is if China does start leading the world you guys are going to beg and cry thinking about how good you had it under the USA.

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>>71249219
Have you ever considered killing yourself?

>>71249271
this really, and even moreso in regards to Russia

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I can't wait for China to start taking over. USA can finally stop being world police and become isolationist like we once were

>>71249219
>pacifist traders (like USA)

Good one

They will probably become increasingly imperialistic.

But it won't affect the Netherlands either way.

Once they get a democratic government, a writing system and language that are reasonably easy to learn, and...sorry, it's not happening.

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>pacifist traders (like USA)

>>71249729
USA was literally the first democratic superpower to exist. Also, most people didn't even know how to write when britain and france dominated the world.

>>71249341
This.

>>71250078
The countries that became superpowers were usually ones with a strong tradition of liberalism and capitalism. They also tended to be seafaring nations. Land-based powers have not generally met these criteria.

Essentially, you need cultural, diplomatic, military, and economic strength. Japan ended up not being the next big thing the way people in the 1980s thought, because they met only one of those qualifications. The Soviet Union also was only strong on the military front, while being deficient in the other areas (especially economic strength).

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>>71249219
>Are they going to be pacifist traders (like USA) or genocidal expansionists (like britain)?

>>71250313
You cannot have culture when the CCP relentlessly stamps out any cultural expression they do not approve of.

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>>71250385
Maybe if your culture is a New World one (the most fragile in the world).

>>71250313

There's only ever been 2 superpowers, Murrica and USSR, so there's as much statistic support for land based communism as the requisite for superpowerness as there's for the seafaring freedom loving blahblah one.

Actually, 2:1 more statistic support for the land-based commies because China is knocking on the door, and from a political organization pov they're still commies.

>>71250385
eh? it's not that bad now. at least they don't limit art to socialist realism and people surrounding Mao Zedong in awe while holding red books.

>>71250520
>There's only ever been 2 superpowers, Murrica and USSR
b-b-but muh empire

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>>71250520
>There's only ever been 2 superpowers

>>71250564

Superpower means motherfucker nigga with a truly global reach. The Roman Empire was not a superpower. Neither the Abbasid. And etc. Great powers yes, superpowers 'no'.

That's a thing of the 20th century, Tyrone.

>>71250666
Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, even the Dutch all had global reach.

>>71250540
No but media in China is still horrendously censored. There are a million subjects you're not allowed to show and media must promote patriotism and social harmony.

>>71250666
retard

>>71250689

Global reach also means you can go around and cuck anyone anywhere.

None of the above could do that.

>>71250793
Like the French did to the Brits in America?

>>71250793
>Britain didn't cuck half the globe at some point

I heard that only 10% of all the nations in the world have never had a British army on their soil at some point.

>>71250814
Reverse that.

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>>71250824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaoSEVhh4bM&feature=youtu.be

>>71250821

They could only cucked niggas and indians.

Could they cuck France, Germany, Russia, USA, China, etc?

I mean on their own ofc.

>>71250969
>USA
How do your like your White House? A little bit toasty or burnt the fuck down?

>>71250969
Why on their own? The USA and the Soviets were the strongest superpowers in history because of their alliances.

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>>71249341
no, you will also pleasure the taste of having politicans bought by foreign powers, or having them installed by force

bon appetit!

>>71250078

USSR allowed women to vote before the US.

>>71249271
>This delusion

USA leads the world: An amoral pack of billionaire profiteers undermine a democracy to try and fuck the world, but mostly just fuck their own country. Luckily I live in Canada and those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights.

China leads the world: An amoral pack of billionaire profiteers undermine communism to try and fuck the world, but mostly just fuck their own country. Luckily I live in Canada and those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights.

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>>71251279
>those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights.

Now that is some nice delusion.

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>>71251279
>Luckily I live in Canada and those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights
Don't be so silly. Half of your country is an honorary Han colony and will join the Sino-Korean hyperstate. The other half will be governed by Honourable Sikh Coalition and will mostly be free of Mongoloid influence.

Anyone remember those Confucius Institutes which turned out to be nothing more than vehicles to promote CCP propaganda on college campuses?

>>71251082

You know during the cold war they could potentially take on anyone except each other. The whole cold war system was an architecture build upon a dual-superpower international system.

>inb4Vietnam

As much as I loved the fatties getting rekt there, it was only because they were unwilling to commit to it anymore. There's no doubt 1v1 USA could potentially invade Vietnam any day of the week.

>>71251479
>As much as I loved the fatties getting rekt there

How the fuck old are you?

>>71251479
So WW2 Germany was a superpower?

>>71251279
The FBI and other federal level criminal investigators can enter Canada and conduct investigations on our soil. Harper signed it.

Dief-"the chief"-enbaker caved to American influence and canceled the Avro Arrow project because a futuristic mach-2 nuclear payload fighter jet scared the bronze age American Airforce shitless.

Fuckin' decades and decades of petroleum, softwood lumber, diamond, auto part, and biomedicine talks and disputes that always end up shafting us in the long run.

Americans can and do influence our laws. You're a retard who lives in a bubble.

>>71249219
China literally has zero (0) cultural projection on an international level.

Japan has some, Korea has some, even fucking Russia has some (mostly thanks to their pre-commie days), but China has literally none whatsoever. For example, in the USA Japanese is still a more popular foreign language than Mandarin. English will never be replaced; China only gets more Americanized and more anglified by the day, whereas absolutely nobody in the world outside East Asia and SEA is getting more sinified with time.

For all of these reasons, I really have a hard time believing in the "superpooper by 2030!" maymay. A global hegemon having zero (0) cultural projection is pretty much unheard of in history.

china isnt going to lead shit. we have so many problems right now. usa still will have most global power for atleast a few decades. dont worry, all u guys are in good hands under usa.

>>71251505

Kek, not that much, I guess I worded it badly.

>>71251544

Could have been one in time. They lacked the global reach part because they didn't have significant projection power.

Sort of Roman Empire with panzers.

>>71251639
Go to Vancouver and see how much Chinese culture has influenced it.

>>71251639
>even fucking Russia has some (mostly thanks to their pre-commie days)

Russia has CP, dashcam vids, and Yoba/chicken proofs memes. It's not much, but it's something. :^)

>>71251698
Then again, Chinese culture can flourish there only because it's free of CCP censorship.

>>71251712
I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that censorship makes cultural expansion impossible. From the early 1930s to 1968 Hollywood was very strictly censored and regulated and yet had a huge influence around the world.

>>71251756
That wasn't state/government censorship, it was self-censorship the industry all agreed on.

>>71251698
It has an ethnic enclave of Chinese people, and a few white people who sometimes buy bubble tea or """""""""""""""""Chinese""""""""""""""""" food.

That's not cultural projection, nor is it cultural influence. Even Vancouver is still thoroughly western. Not only that, but I'd argue that Japanese culture has more influence in Vancouver than Chinese culture.

>>71251699
I was talking more about Pushkin, Dostoyevsky, etc.

>>71251787
And ?
The Hays Code censored films very similarly to how the Chinese government does it now. Everything had to be patriotic and promote positive culture. And yet Hollywood movies were still a huge American cultural export in that time period.

>>71251787
The mid-20th century was a peculiar era when Americans embraced statism, thankfully the baby boomers returned everything to normal.

>>71251639

A global hegemon is unheard of too. Even so, cultural outreach wouldn't matter one single fuck to be classified as such. It's just power what matters. Aliens could come tomorrow cuck the world with laser guns and leave you leaf alone in your room crying 'b-but you don't have cultural outreach, aliens!!1'

Also, chinese culture does have a global impact already. Just take a look at the food you everyday and the shops around, leaf. Was it like that 30 yrs ago?

Culture isn't just in the format of language and hollywood movies. Though the chinese don't care much about gaijin culture and keep to their own, so they probably wouldn't want to proselityze theirs to the pesky gaijin.

>>71252037
chinese culture is shit. nobody cares about it, it is just forced chinese actors in american movies.

>>71252037
>Though the chinese don't care much about gaijin culture and keep to their own,

Wait a minute. China literally has a system of government created by Russians and based on a book written by a self-hating German Jew.

>>71252123
Chinese culture as seen in China is also just a pastiche version created by the CCP. Other than that, it doesn't exist anymore; the Cultural Revolution took care of that.

>>71252037
>Though the chinese don't care much about gaijin culture and keep to their own
way to discredit your entire post in a single sentence

>A global hegemon is unheard of too.
the same applies to any sort of greap power

If you look at all of the various empires/countries which were the greatest power in their sphere of the world at some point, they all had cultural projection over that sphere. China of course has a lot of cultural projection over the East Asian and SEA spheres, but on an international level very little, unlike the UK in the 19th century and the USA in the 20th century.

>>71252163

And they also fly planes based on russian designs. But only after chinify them. Just like Mao did with the german-jew book.

Chinese culture tends to be ultra-chauvinistic and view themselves as the center of the world and nothing of importance happens outside it. It's mostly because their culture developed in isolation without any contact with other advanced civilizations. They consider the rest of mankind just annoying barbarians out to give them problems (but occasionally have useful technology they can borrow).

>>71252235

They do their thing. If you take it, you take it. But they're not going to seduce you with marketing tricks or promote you china-cola to you under the guise that it tastes like Freedom and you should strive to embrace the chinese cultural abstractions.

They're not interested in any of that. Only in the profit. Just take a look at their business in Africa. They're not selling the Chinese dream to the locals there.

Strictly speaking, no, China claims to not promote any ideology in particular, but the CCP's sympathies obviously lay on the side of authoritarian governments, though they won't come out and say it; they were spooked when communism fell in 1989-91 and to this day party officials are required to study the collapse of the Soviet Union and how they can avoid a repeat.

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>>71252405
>view themselves as the center of the world and nothing of importance happens outside it

Americans are absolutely the same if not worse.

>>71252530
You're completely sidestepping my entire post and just coming up with excuses, and basically being as ridiculous as OP was with his "pacifist traders" line.

>>71252405

Western culture is just as chauvinistic, with the difference that it's expansive. Our ways are the best and we want others to embrace them.

But in China the great wall is also metaphorical. Our ways are the best and we want others to fuck off. A foreigner trying to assimilate to the chinese ways would be met with contempt or even with offense. How dare you, silly hairy dirty gaijin!

In general that also applies, probably to a lesser degree, to the rest of asians.

>>71252844
Then again, Vietnam has been resisting Sinicization for 1500 years.

>>71249271
I agree to this. The prosperity we have today comes from the view the USA has of the world. The belief that free trade will make every country better over time. China doesnt think like this. For them economy is a zero sum game. For someone to win, someone else has to lose.

Chinks dont care about "leading the world"

they're looking after themselves

and their own collective interests, as they should.

And for now their priorities involve pacifying east asia of western military occupation and preventing their further goepolitical influences.

>>71255679
this

>>71255679
>And for now their priorities involve pacifying east asia of western military occupation and preventing their further goepolitical influences

Gonna have to get better weapons than shitty clones of 1970s Soviet equipment then.

>>71255719
Why do they need "better weapons"?

USA is falling out of the game any ways.

What they have right now is sufficient enough

>>71255719
Not to mention that the PLA is nightmarishly corrupt and is mostly a giant money-making racket for the officers.

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>>71255762
so it's just like the US military that doesnt serve "the country" but instead the global bank cartels and corporations?


I hear you dont like competition...murka

>>71255813
>>71255746
>>71255746
>>71255679
Take off that proxy, Zhang. You're not fooling anyone.

>>71251037
>white house made of stone
>"burnt the fuck down"
LOL salty brit in korea

reality was US sacked toronoto and then burnt it down. Brits wanted to do the same but the first lady and the residents left with all the valuables before Britain got to the white house so they decided to use fuel to burn the white house (never burned it down btw).

>>71255878
The outer walls were left standing, the inside was gutted.

>>71252123
Most of your ancient culture was destroyed by the commies. How the fuck was this allowed?

>>71251639
>Britain was a giant chinaboo in its peak
Cultural projection comes after economic and military power

The USA was the major economy 30 years before assuming global leadership.

>>71256122
>Cultural projection comes after economic and military power

China however has none of those; their per capita GDP is under $10,000.

>>71249219
They're going to turn us into bile bears.

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>>71256203
>look up bile bears
[vomits externally]

Bear bile farming is mainly practiced in China and Vietnam; although it is illegal in the latter country, bile farms still persist.

>>71256177
>Implying china is already a superpower and should have them

Its not happening soon, doesnt mean it wont happen while you're busy dealing with niggers and faggots

Back to culture, literally no foreigner give any shits about ancient cultures. Anime, kpop, hollywood, video games modern inventions that at have barely anything to do with historic identity. Whatever links it does have with historical identity is rarely taken seriously by foreigners.

Modern culture can be created by anyone, and then can be exported if a country is wealthy and politically influencial enough.

>>71256335
>while you're busy dealing with niggers and faggots
>flag

Really makes you think...

Chinese culture just can't compete with Western culture on a number of levels; it's not a culture or mode of thinking that's adapted to a globalized world.

>>71249219
Genocidal expansionists in shitholes + pacifist traders with non-shitholes

Essentially the same as the US.

>>71250740
>No but media in China is still horrendously censored. There are a million subjects you're not allowed to show and media must promote patriotism and social harmony

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2070261/chinese-censors-looser-social-media-grip-may-help-flag

>>71251787
Nah there was (still is) a Federal morals censor in the United States that controls movie/tv content

>>71249219
I don't know, but I sure do plan to get rich with the new overlords.

>>71252123
I care about it.

>>71252201
>created
Ahh yes the 1.45 billion Chinese have no say in their own culture

>>71255997
>Communist Vietnam

>this CIDF member in Spain
wew

>>71249341
China has been isolationist for 10 000 years. Why would they take over?

>>71256932
There's no government regulation of content anymore except public broadcasting.

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>>71252405
[Citations needed]
>completely chauvanstic view of themselves
>says the bloody USA

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>>71249219
>pacifist traders (like USA)

>>71257021
If it helps, I've seen this troll in China threads before.

>>71249219
>pacifist traders (like USA)

>>71253147
>Vietnam
>resisting sinicization for 1500 years
>literally ruled by a Chinese LARP state from 200-700, language based on south Chinese language, used chinese writing system until 1900's, follow fucking Chinese buddhism, all traditional cultural buildings in North Vietnam literally copied centimeter by centimeter from China
LOVING EVERY LAUGH LMAO

>>71257052
That's not what you claimed shart

The USA heavily censored EVERYTHING 1920's-1960's, and yet that's when American culture became dominant.

The reality is that American cultural dominance followed American political/military dominance.

>>71257117
>>71257021
>troll
>CIDF

I could be Xi Jinping. Does that change the facts you fucking /pol/shitposters?

>>71257204
The Spaniard speaks truth.

>>71249219
>pacifist traders (like USA)
i smiled

>>71249271
>implying China wouldn't be 100x better
instead of degeneracy and stagnation we'd get a genuinely improved world

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>don't trust Chinese official statistics
>trust private indicators instead!

Well here's the private indicator of GDP growth you fuckers were spouting daily in 2014-2015. Straight from Bloomberg News.

>>71257287
Are there any actual white people posting under an Australian flag?

>>71257204
American culture became dominant because Yuropoors blew themselves up in two wars.

>>71257242
>could be

When did I even make a /pol/ post Chang? You're the one posting like he is being paid for it.

>>71257242
>>71257246
>>71255746
All samefag. All CCP proxybot.

>>71257469
Okay??? That's the same as what I said

>>71257540
Obsessively posting lies about X country you don't know about

>>71257544
Nope Juan

>>71257287
Zhang

>>71257446
>implying its not asians that like the U.S and not the white aussies that hate it
I don't dislike/like either. I just believe it would genuinely be better for the progression of our species. Hence the use of "stagnation", just look at how much China has changed in so little time.

>>71258048
I never posted anything about chinkland you autist

>>71249219
the times where you could genocide native people and nobody cared are over
Also, while I do believe that China will dominate in future, they wont be the single superpower.
USA will still exist, although not as relevant as today, and maybe EU could become a superpower aswell

>>71258123
Lyl China is a Third World country outside the coastal cities.

>>71258171
>and maybe EU could become a superpower aswell
Not happening.

>>71258214
>i would rather be a vassal state of a foreign power than be a member of a strong empire
wew

>>71258123
>I don't dislike/like either. I just believe it would genuinely be better for the progression of our species
You want, I could dump the pics of the pollution, dog beatings, and kids being run over deliberately by cars.

Mainlander chinks are barely even human. China is the place where you can go in a 5-star restaurant and there's hordes of filthy people tracking mud all over the place, babies shitting on the floor, people spitting everywhere and eating with their hands, etc.

>>71258294
They are the same thing. Except outside EU we might get to keep the name. If we don't live others will, too sensible to be transformed into brown factory fodder in a totalitarian superstate.

>>71258440
They are poor
But once more and more people will become wealthy in China, they will learn good manners and behaviour

>>71258451
With 1.2 billion people? Not happening. Besides, that overlooks the point that China doesn't have any high culture anymore because commies destroyed it.

>>71258444
>They are the same thing.
The difference is that you have a democratic representation in the EU
You can also work and live anywhere in EU you want, and you are free to have a political career in EU, fighting for influence for your people.
Meanwhile, if you become US vassal, you wont get any democratic representation. You wont be even able to work there without greencard

>>71258495
>With 1.2 billion people? Not happening.
So you think China will stay poor for all eternity?

>China doesn't have any high culture anymore because commies destroyed it.
China has still far more culture than Korea, and they are civilized

>>71258547
>So you think China will stay poor for all eternity?

If they had 70% fewer people, they might have a shot at being a developed nation. They passed the optimal population level a long, long time ago.

>>71258497
I want to live in France and you misunderstood me. I'm saying I don't wish the EU to become a superpower, I'm telling you it won't happen. France is already a shithole and you're on a fast track to become one. Importing human garbage en masse to compensate for tragic birthrates is a recipe for disaster.
And don't think you're not a US vassal, haven't forgotten the spying you did on their behalf.

>>71258622
not saying*

>>71258622
>Importing human garbage en masse to compensate for tragic birthrates is a recipe for disaster

Protip: European cunts could not retain First World living standards if they had Africa's birthrates

>>71258622
>Importing human garbage en masse to compensate for tragic birthrates is a recipe for disaster.
We dont import refugees to make up for birhtrates, we import them for humanitarian reasons. Currently Germany is in no danger of dying out, since so many EU immigrants come here.

>And don't think you're not a US vassal, haven't forgotten the spying you did on their behalf.
And EU is the only chance for us to emancipate. And now, with Americans having an idiot in power, is the best opportunity for us to break free of US influence

>>71258698
>we import them for humanitarian reasons

Even worse. At least whip them into cleaning toilets like Russians do with Central Asian immigrants.

>>71257544
what is ccp? you mention it all the time in thread

>>71258806
Chinese
Communist
Party

>>71258698
>we import them for humanitarian reasons.
If you truly believe that, you are a hopeless fool. Not even half of them are syrians, women and children only account for one quarter of them.

>>71258698
>Currently Germany is in no danger of dying out
Wait, isn't 20% of Germany over the age of 65?

>>71259053
They have the lowest birthrate in the world. Lower than Japan's.

>>71258955
Syrians are not the only ones who can apply for asylum, you know?

>>71259053
>>71259093
It's called a demographic transition. Once the current generation of old people die off, this problem will self-correct since the generations under them are much smaller.

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>>71249219
>pacifist traders (like USA)

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>>71257160
we tried

China doesn't need to make us all speak Mandarin in order to control us you fucking retards.

>>71259104
Refugee status doesn't apply to every brown guy that happens to walk by.

>>71259199
So the civil servants need to look into if the application is valid or not
this takes time

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>>71250520
>There's only ever been 2 superpowers
But in all seriousness. China will not become a superpower.
The US is going to lose its status as a superpower, and we're all in the process of going back to a multipolar world with lots of fairly large global powers, but none that are as big and powerful as the USA and the USSR were during the cold war.
And the US will stay the most important cultural, economic and military power in the world for the foreseeable future. They just won't be as dominant as they used to be.

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>>71259138
It'll be alright you guys are still cool.

China missed it's time to shine by a few years. They hit a wall in advancement and have just been bloating since.

Even though I didn't want it to happen, it's still kind of sad to watch a nation's chance slip just out of reach.

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>>71259291
Very gud post.

>>71259119
There's a transition alright.

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>>71258444
>Except outside EU we might get to keep the name.
Did you lost your name?We've been in the EU for a few years now and everyone still calls us Bulgarian.

I had no idea that we will loose our name...

When will that happen?

Are we to poor so we get to keep our name until we get rich?

>tfw too poor to loose your name in the EU

>>71259405
yes, a transition into islam

>>71259490
The goal is a European superstate, a United States of Europe and nations are in the way.

>>71258547
>Korea
>civilized
Modern South Korea as an asian-brand copy/paste of Japan+America.

If you dig past the face value stuff you find out their leftover culture is just low/mid level Chinese.

>>71259291
>multipolar world
But we don't have much global power today compared to before 19th century.

>>71259617
>and nations are in the way
Not really.
All American states kept their names.
You know that right?

I think that you don't really understand how a federal EU would work.

>>71259723
>All American states kept their names
How can you compares these strips of land with european countries?

>>71259723
If a federal EU has you as cucked as the states are here then I would bail as fast as possible.

>>71251260
""""""""""""vote"""""""""""

>>71249219
>Are they going to be pacifist traders (like USA)
What now?

>>71257028
This is a rather vital point most seem to completely miss.

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>>71249219
>pacifist traders (like USA)
>like USA
>pacifist
>USA

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>>71259874
You wanted to keep your name, right?
You will get to keep it.Stop being delusional.you start sounding like an amerilard.
>>71259917
I am sorry but every time someone from the USA replies to me... the first thing that pops into my head is that orange clown you elected as your president and i start laughing.

>>71260359
dohoho he's the hero we need bulganon

>>71260426
nihihihi...he is the hero that you deserve ameribro

>>71260472
mmmhmmm

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>>71249219
>pacifist traders (like USA)
HAHAHA

>>71249271
fucking stupid burger China is 100x better than your degenerate cultureless shithole

>>71250564
he is right though, stop with this liberal use of the word "superpower"

it was only the US and the USSR

>>71257544
why so mad?

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>>71261016
That's actually not entirely true.

>>71261056
yeah ok ...

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>>71249219

>>71251639
>"superpooper by 2030!" maymay
mostly indians that say this meme about their country

>>71249271
This. The Chinese do not have souls, they treat people as cattle and dogs and cats as food supplies.

>>71252123
t. sexpat

>>71252705
this

>>71255860
A-ANYONE WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS ARE SHILLS

>>71261327
Translation please.

>>71249219
>Are they going to be pacifist traders (like USA)

wat

>>71260888
Most of this are justified. Brasil was literally saved because of (supposed) USA intervention. This is probably the same in the rest of south/central america.

>>71259367
Whwt the fuck are you even trying to say

>>71261623
Cuck

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>>71261623
>Brasil was literally saved
from what