>I swear guys Finn's are as white as all of us! When,

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herro

>>71221444
kys cuck

>>71221426
>no nignogs
>no arabs
>no pakis
Yeah they're definitely not as white as Britain.

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>>71221426
Stop making fun of finland you cuck

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>>71221478
At least our indigenous aren't literal Mongolians
>>71221494
>flag
>calls me a cuck
Irony.jpg

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>>71221513
What wrong cuck? Can't handle the truth?

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none of you is white, fuck off

>>71221552
>tfw no Eesti gf

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>>71221478
Not for long amigo, the race war starts now

>>71221513
Your indigenous were killed by normans 1000 years ago, Mahmoud.

i've unironically seen someone claim finnish are mongolians, you guys seriously need to cease with the autistic memeing

>>71221725
That's because they are m8

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>>71221426
Shoo shoo un-Nordic subhuman.

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>>71221987
>Americans
>Nordic
They were literally populated by the Brits who according to your meme chart, aren't Nordic.

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>>71222058
>white
All Scandinavians are fingols

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>>71222058
t. triggered non-nord

>>71221426
Hopefully soon. I don't even consider Finns European at this point. They are an intrusive Mongoloid race that needs to go back.

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>>71221513
>At least our indigenous aren't literal Mongolians
There's no single point of evidence showing that our indigeneus population came from altai Pajeet. It'd be indigeneous siberian population which we cannot trace what they look like.

But oh yeah this was an b8 thread so i'll just drop it.

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>>71222289
Hey now, finns are cool, just don't get too supremacistic anout your ethnicity.

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Are Finns actually ultra-diluted hapas?

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>>71222364
Why not? Everything west, south and east of us is just literal mutts whose point of existence can be questioned there and there.

>>71222420
>calls the rest of Europe mutts
>has upward of 5% East Asian admixture
lmao ok

>>71222508
that's not how it works tard

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>>71222508

Modern day Europeans are a mix of paleolithic East Asians who carried haplogroup R and Cro-Magnons, plus Middle Eastern shit.

Even French are 23% paleolithic East Asian.

Finns obviously have more of the older Asian admixture because of lesser Middle Eastern and African admixture and on top of that we do have more recent NE Asian admixture as much as you said we do or more.

So Finns are about 35-40% Asian I would say.

https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2017_MBE_Lipson_Big_Admixture_Graph_Model.pdf

>>71221513
>literal mongols
Mongols are altaic and east asian chinks and finns came from other side of ural, thousands of miles away with no contact to literal mongolians at any point of history

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>>71224721

The paternal ancestors of R-men have been located. They came from Indonesia.

Every western European man should take a trip to meet the cousins of the men who gook'd Europe from Cro-Magnon to hapa.

>>71224725
L I T E R A L

>>71224998

Back to Indonesia you filthy R1b. Ricedicks raus.

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Requesting moro infographs!

Won't read, but I enjoy seeing how autists think they matter somehow

>>71225042

I know they don't matter. Nobody is going to bother trying to understand modern genetic science on fucking /int/.

People will stick to their comfortable illusions where Anglo-Germanic people are descended from ice age hunter gatherers who looked like Vikings with blonde hair and blue eyes. Everything is else too complex and not ideologically suitable for a NW European identity.

>>71224721
>>71224937
>French are 23% Paleolithic East Asian
>paleolithic East Asians who carried haplogroup R
Can you link some studies or articles that verify this

t. Curious R1a dude

>>71225445

There's a link to a Harvard study in the post.
It's an early estimate but the conclusion that French have elevated shared genetic drift with East Asians compared to original Europeans(Kostenki man) is an undeniable fact.

Mal'ta boy(haplogroup R) also had East Asian admixture compared to Kostenki man but for some reason he had less of it than the French.
Perhaps his tribe was more mixed with proto-Caucasoid women. Either way R has no cousins in the west but it does in the east. Q, P, K2, all are carried mainly by Asian people except for the N in Europe.
There's no way R didn't come from Asians.

>>71225643
It's common knowledge that R came from Asia, but that's hardly reflective of modern R1a people (save for Central Asians). That purported East Asian component could just be something archaic that later became European due to migrations but which modern Asians themselves ended up lacking due to said migrations.

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>tfw no mongol gf

>>71224937
R didn't originate in Indonesia. It originated in Siberia/Central Asia

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>>71225965
Forgot image

>>71225777

But Europeans also have ancestry from Kostenki mans people who predated the R-people.

http://sciencenordic.com/scandinavians-are-earliest-europeans

Badly written article since it's not especially connected to Scandinavia but all modern day northern Europeans.

Just because the original Europeans are extinct in pure form doesn't mean we can just ignore the fact that R brought to Europe genetics which destroyed the pure European race of Kostenki.

>>71225965

R is just a collective name for some mutations which happened in Central Asia.

R-carriers have many more older mutations(K2, P) which happened in Indonesia and are shared with the modern people there.

>>71226104
By this logic all non-Africans should go back to Africa.

>>71226104
Basal P1-M45 is found in Central Asia and therefore most likely originated there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjk9GoQ8EvI

>>71226265

It still wouldn't matter. The ultimate origin is still in Indonesia/SE Asia because these P1 carriers still share more mutations with Aeta Negritos of the Philippines, their closest kinfolk.
They didn't come from Central Asia, Central Asians came from them.


Proto-Aeta+Kostenki=You.

>>71226402
>They didn't come from Central Asia, Central Asians came from them
Smells like horseshit desu, much more probable it being the other way around given the rapid expansion of P1's immediate descendants from Eurasia.

>>71226527

Not realistic if you understand the phylogeny.
K probably originated in India or something but K2 is obviously from SE Asia. It doesn't make any sense why every single K2 male would move from Central Asia to SE Asia in the stone age and preserve the internal variation perfectly to make it look like it came from SE Asia.

Papuans and Australian Abos also have old K2 lines.


Your ancestors probably lived in the jungles of Borneo for 10-20k years, accumulating all the mutations from K2 to P. Then they ventured out and started mixing 30k years, reaching Europe probably about 20k years ago.

>R originated in Siberia
>N originated in South-East Asia

>R1a originated in Central Asia
>R1b originated in West Asia
>N1c originated in China

>R1a and R1b were both carried by Caucasoids at their point of origin and subsequently when entering European populations
>N1c was carried by Mongoloids at its point of origin and subsequently when entering European populations

hmmm

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>>71226747
Most Finns are descended from K2, too. I still don't believe your narrative, given how advanced their supposed descendants ended up being.
>>71226794
R1 and N1 are cousins, m89. Have a look at pic related.

>>71226794

>N originated in South-East Asia

Maybe not. Old N subclades have a different distribtion centered more around northern places.
NO of course had to be from SE Asia, it's related to P.

>>71226878

>given how advanced their supposed descendants ended up being.

Nonsense argument, maybe a mixing of Asian and proto-Caucasoid resulted in success.


If K2 was from Central Asia shouldn't there be at least some old K2 lines in Iran, Russia, Pakistan, anywhere around the place?

Why are they ALL in SE Asia and Australasia?

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>once a month
>open mongolian throat singing song on youtube
>post a comment saying "what a beautiful finnish song"

>>71226985
>Ust'-Ishim man, an individual who lived approximately 45,000 BP, in Siberia, also apparently belonged to the paragroup K2*
That suggests that it indeed originated in continental Eurasia.

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>>71227347
лoл

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>>71221426
I will never unsee her looking like the fingol in op's pic

>>71221542
Turks should be purple imo.

>>71227519
:Д

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>>71227525
She's just uggoe.

>>71227499

No it didn't because Ust-Ishim shared mutations with NO(thus he was NO*) which is the Northern Son of the K2 family and had access to Europe and Central Asia though Siberia.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4884158/

>Ust’-Ishim9 and Oase116 lived, respectively, in Western Siberia 43–47 kya and in Romania 37–42 kya. Their Y chromosomes join HG03742 in sharing with haplogroup NO the derived T allele at M2308 (GRCh37 Y:7,690,182), and the modern sample shares just four additional mutations with the NO clade.

NO* scouts were making excursions to Europe and fucking Neanderthal hoes while P* guys were still in SE Asia. The common ancestor of you and the Aeta lived a long time after Ust'-Ishim.

Face the facts Aeta boy.

>>71227718
Still not quite buying it desu, R1a is too glorious of a haploshit to be of junglenigger descent

>>71228048
Don't listen to him. He's just an angry N1c Uralonigger who's upset that his ancestors were Mongoloids who raped their way through Caucasoid women to create him. Be proud knowing that while you're a product of mass rape as well, at least it was by fellow Caucasoids. R1 brothers unite, I say.

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>>71228378

>fellow Caucasoids

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>Fellow Central Asian Caucasoid Aryan P-brothers unite, I say

Finns should be classified as Mongoloid again.

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>>71228829
Well i'm glad it's not 4chan who's in charge of studying genetics and making educated statements.

>>71228378

Btw, I'm I1. Not particularly proud of it since it's carried by a lot of flaming homosexuals in Sweden but hey at least my ancestors didn't come from fucking SE Asia.

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>>71228511
>>71228777
You know finns are caucasoid right?

>>71228933
>missed the point entirely
fucking retard
>>71228907
I1 a shit desu, R1 and N1 genocided most of you berrypickers luckily

>>71228829
Because you have seen pictures of ugly finns on 4chan?

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Every western European man should take a trip to meet the cousins of the men who gook'd Europe from Cro-Magnon to hapa.

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>>71228998
Y-yes I missed the point of you showing niggers.

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>>71228907
tfw n1c1 master race

>>71229093
I didn't even post that, it's clear that his implication was that R1 carriers weren't Caucasoid originally, no matter how full of shit that claim is

>>71229168
Most of the races were white back then, before mongrelization with inferior blacks.
Even those negrofied poo in loos.

>>71229168

Original R carriers were clearly a mix, some junglenigger and other Asian genes on the paternal side and western genes on the maternal side.

Maybe they adapted to looking more Caucasoid or whatever but that still doesn't make them as genetically western as their maternal cousins, like Kostenki man.

>>71221426
A lot of them looks like chink, its a fact. Nonetheless, they are white.

>>71221426
I'm kinda waiting for it to start Tbh

>>71229341
>>71229435
Outlandish claim after outlandish claim tbqh

>>71229816
It's biblical.

>>71229816

It's based on evidence.

>>71224721


>Lastly, we also briefly studied two other ancient European lineages. First, we built a version of our model with WHG in place of MA1 and found that it fit in a similar fashion (majority
component of WHG’s ancestry as a sister group to K14, plus eastern Eurasian gene flow).

R and Q are the only thing that connects East Eurasia and Europe before N1c showed up.

>>71229872
Wait, so you're telling me that Dravidians and whatnot were blonde and blue-eyed before niggers ventured out of Eefreka?
>>71230041
I find it improbable, there's no way R1 people would've made innovations such as the horse and the wheel if their forefathers were such unimaginative and primitive people.

>>71230285
Actually dravidians were white.
The bible speaks of dravidians as great pure souls(not literally, but metaphorically)

>>71230340
How white is white in this instance?

>>71230393
Not blonde but ruddy complexion and bonestructure resembling cro-magnoids.

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My ancestors :)

t. Pekka, proud N1c Chinaman

>>71230442
horseshit desu

Dravidians were never white
Indo-Aryans were/are white

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>>71230510
Okay, have you seen brahmins and high caste indians? Or assyrians in middle east, it's because every race used to be white before mixing with non whites.. All indians used to be white.

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>>71230521
They might've been once, but they sure as fuck aren't anymore.

Still want myself a Brahmin waifu though tbqhwyf

>WI WUZ KANGS
>WI WUZ VIKANGS
>WI WUZ KHANS

can you guys stop w your X-angs shit ?

>>71230593
Don't do it brahmins are actual turbo fenno-swedes.

>>71230565
Not all Indians, since Indians include ethnic Dravidians and the Indo-Aryans. Indo-Aryans used to be white as their paternal lines suggest (majority are R1a), but got swarthier due to mixing with local women. Dravidians always looked swarthy though.

>>71230505

But to be fair, they beat up R1a and R1b fags fair and square.
If the R-fags didn't want N1c men to take over their NE Europe then they should have found some courage in themselves to stop it. No courage was found though, maybe a Filipino gene thing.

>>71230658
Dravidians were white, but mixed themselves completely from outside invaders who wanted to enjoy indus valley civilization.

>>71230645
Brahmins are actually cool as fuck though, arriving to India in chariots and silky clothing and sheeeiiiiittt, whereas Fennoswedes descend from berrypickers (like all Swedes) who just adopted Lutheran civilization and then passed it on to us..

>>71230787
Sounds like Marie Cachet -tier revisionism, placing blonde and blue eyed people at every important point in history at every single corner of the world by grasping at straws like Horus being purportedly blue-eyed.

>>71230728
They hardly "beat up" R1a and R1b "fags". The only people they cucked were I1 betas and I don't care for them. Admittedly there would have been some R1a presence in North-East Europe where N1c spread, but N1c absolutely never managed to conquer R1b lands.

And you say that no "courage" was found. But such courage clearly was found when a couple of thousand years later the Corded Ware R1a masters raped their way through N1c lands in north-east Europe and western Siberia, leaving a permanent genetic imprint, before abandoning the barren wasteland of Finland and the far north as such land was clearly undesirable. And courage was found again when the I1, R1b and R1a Swedes conquered Finland for hundreds of years. And again when the R1a Russians conquered Finland and the rest of N1c land, driving them eastward or absorbing them entirely to this day.

>>71231059
>driving them eastward
what, 25% of russians carry N1c, Rurik and his descendants being one of those N1c men

>>71231211
>or absorbing them entirely

FINN'S AREN'T WHITE

>>71231059
N1c is relatively later comer, R1a was and R1b was present in NE Europe before N1c. Kunda and Narva cultures were R1b, nowadays this region is void of R1b. Keep in mind according to archaeological data population of whole Europe after last ice age was 4400-5900. So a lot of todays haplogroup frequencies are due to bottleneck or founder effects.

>>71231260
more news at 9

>>71231059

There were no I1 guy in NE Europe. It's not a NE European haplogroup.
R1b is though.

European Russia was all I2, R1a and yes also R1b country before the boys from the east came.

Latvia was R1b country originally and it looks conquered to me.

> Further, the Y chromosomes of two of our Latvian Mesolithic samples were assigned to haplogroup R1b (the maximum-likelihood sub-haplogroup is R1b1b), which is the most common haplogroup found in modern Western Europeans

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)31542-1

>>71231059
Which parallel timeline was this?

>>71231059
>>71231352

Oh, and by the way N1c came to Finland about 1500 years after Corded Ware so yeah that kind ruins your argument.

>>71221426
Finns are the original hapas

>>71221426
Finns have some asian genetics, but so do other nations in Europe.

>>71231574
Not England amigo

>>71227718
Where'd yea learn all if this?

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>>71231593

>>71231352
Two samples is not enough to judge an entire population by. While I don't doubt that R1b was present in Latvia and north-east Europe as a whole, it clearly was never core R1b land.

>>71231465
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>>71231481
Wouldn't mind making hapas.

>>71231644
At least our genes aren't naturally Mongolian

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>>71231593
https://www.google.fi/amp/s/nativebriton.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/the-anglo-saxons/amp/

Are you sure?

>>71231835
And how would that be a bad thing
Also
>mongolian
>uralic
Pick one

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>>71231835
>In addition the Anglo-Saxon period samples appear to share a stronger older component with Finnish (1000GP FIN) individuals.
http://muinainensuomi.foorumimme.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1057

>>71231913
Sorry mate I don't understand Mongolian

>>71231740

It seems ridiculous to you because you have a distorted view of Finno-Ugric people being more local to NE Europe than we actually are.

Finnish N1c isn't as old as our local Comb Ceramic.

>>71231835
Finns that moved to South-Finland probably weren't either, despite coming from Asia.

But Saami-People actually have(according to some Swedish study a Saami man had a mongoloid skull) and some of that got probably mixed with Finns when Saamis moved to south from Lapland.


But "Finns are mongols" is just an old meme.

>>71231352
>>71231345
What major are you all, or are finns just born with this knowledge

>>71232083
We all are born with autism and chink iq. We dont need to major anything to learn this

>>71232083
Major in bullshit, valedictorian from Reputation Parasitism U

>>71232083
Less civilization, less domestication, less degeneration.
Finns learn something, they will know it forever.
Hard to explain, but it's our genes.

>>71232083
he has entered a shaman trance and our forefathers are telling him all this *bangs on witchdrum and yodles*

>>71232083
Carelian magic.

>>71231352
Although I was being far too liberal with my claim that Finland was inhabited mainly by I1 people when N1c entered the region, it isn't actually known how I1 became so prevalent in Finland. So it's entirely possibly that it did exist in NE Europe at the time, and likely did to some degree.

>>71231957
Corded Ware existed from 2900 BC to 2350 BCE. N1c is estimated to have entered Europe at LEAST a thousand years before the Corded Ware expansion. A far cry from your supposed "1500 years after Corded Ware" claim.

>>71232083
They're mostly full of shit. Some of them do sound like they know what they're talking about, but even then they like to twist facts in their favour.

>>71232083
Finns are very interested in genetics and other objective fields of science, mostly because we want to debunk all the historical lies about us.

>>71232391
Wait so the rumors of finngolian forest mage who are cannibals isn't true?

>>71232535
>cannibals
Who told you this

>>71232380

Comb Ceramic was a cultural system based around female exogamy, a necessity for small groups to avoid inbreeding.
It didn't replace local cultures as only the pottery traditions were new but that was something that was the responsibility of women.

There might have been some old N1c subclades in Finland when Corded came but it's irrelevant as modern Finnish N1c is not that old.
I'm an archaeologist btw although never "worked" as one.

>>71228378
I mostly bear the autosomes of N1c people though, so I much rather identify with them than Slavshits or other Indo-Europeans.

>>71232559
I remember reading this is a swedish thing

>>71232751
How do you know what test did you take?

>>71232852
23andme, I'm 91% Finnish so I'm very pure.

>>71232916
91% Mongolian?

>>71232940
teehee

>>71232809
I wouldnt be surprised if swedes themselves were cannibals among their other nasty shit like schwedentrunk but we were not cannibals and no we werent drinking blood in forests like they like to tell you

>>71232611
Well either way it's not really relevant to my original argument, which if I remember correctly was simply that the SE Asian origins of R is irrelevant because by the time R entered Europe it was carried by Caucasoids, whereas the movement of N1c into NE Europe was associated with a Mongoloid or at least mixed phenotype and a degree of Mongoloid genes.

Also again, the specifics of when exactly N1c cucked NE Europe is irrelevant because it was prior to the two major cuckings it received in return, those being the Swedish conquering of Finland and the Russian conquering of Finland and other N1c lands.

>>71232916
Real question is how much magic can you do, and what kind

>>71233137
What would you like to have I can make a spell to stop you getting more fat

>>71233127
We never got cucked though in the true meaning of the word, we have remained a stronghold of N1c bulls with R1 intrusion remaining at less than 10% in face of literally millions of them.

t. other

>>71233248
[cont.]

Also we genuinely cucked R1 and I1 men by taking their women. Our mtDNA is indistinguishable from our neighbours, Swedes in particular.

>>71233248
Considering the natural master status of the R1 race, I'm not surprised they didn't bother cucking the N1c populations of Finland and Siberia. Why would we want anything to do with barren wastelands and semi-Mongoloid women?

>>71233244
Can you make me white?

>>71233378
Also I forgot to add - N1c only managed to expand considerably into shitty frozen wastelands with very small populations and population densities. Meanwhile, the R1 race conquered some of the richest, most populated and powerful parts of the world and have retained them to this day.

>>71233378

>Why would we want anything to do with barren wastelands and semi-Mongoloid women?

Well a lot of UK guys still move to Australia

>>71233378
Our women directly descend from the purest of Aryan women, hence our high prevalence of blonde hair despite lacking Aryan haplogroups. You let us taint their pure pussies with our Mongolic seed. Remember that.

>>71233425
I see from my crystal ball that you are white

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>>71233444
>R1 race conquered some of the richest, most populated and powerful parts of the world and have retained them to this day.

>>71233444

I think N1c has a pretty impressive resume in Europe considering it started off with nothing and ended up being carried by something like 20 million European men.

>>71233459
Kek, that is true. Luckily they kept the best parts for themselves and pushed the Abos into barely habitable barren shitholes. Sounds like history repeating itself, eh?

>>71233471
I am aware of this. It truly is sad to know what it could have been - the purest, whitest, blondest most blue-eyed European race with not a drop of East Asian blood. And while Finnish people have retained many of these features, unfortunately the yellow menace has permanently tainted them forever. An epicanthic fold will never lie.

>>71233594
R is carried by hundreds and hundreds of millions though, and started from very little as well. Admittedly more than N1c, but their success has been larger by multiple factors.

>>71233754
>I am aware of this
So you should stfu just like your R1 forebears did, watching in the sidelines whilst their women got pumped full with Asiatic conqueror seed.

>>71233936
What's to watch? The opposite has been happening for millennia, and continues to occur to this day as Western R1 men travel to East Asia to fuck Mongoloid women and "pump" them full of Europid conqueror "seed". Unfortunately this time the true threat comes not from the East, but from the South, as Somalians travel miles to Finland to spread their Afro-Asiatic seed through the Finnish nation.

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>>71234092
>australian talking about whites taking over asians
>china 2.0 talking about whites taking over asians

>>71234176
Chinese men don't fuck Australian women, though. They fuck Chinese women. And I would prefer pure-blooded Caucasoids getting swamped by pure-blooded Mongoloids to pure-blooded Caucasoids getting cucked by Mongoloids and creating a mixed-race nation (as was the case in Finland).

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>>71234272
>Chinese men don't fuck Australian women

>>71233482
Damn you good now the real test is can you make sweden great again

>>71234272

But what about your national helo?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Sing

>>71233754
N1 was always a very Northern and largely pastoral haplogroup, R1 discovered farming earlier and horse domestication so they could breed and spread out quicker. It's pretty impressive that we managed to overtake Indo-Europeans here, given our disadvantage in numbers. Those people we overtook were the crème de la crème of Indo-Europeans as well, as is evident from the fact that we are nowadays the blondest and fairest.

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>>71233482
can you make sweden white again ?

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>>71234272

>>71234369
>blondest and fairest
And amongst the tallest, I forgot to add.

>>71234328
It's actually true though. The Chinese always keep to themselves (except their women). An admirable trait I must say.

>>71234345
Never even heard of him, pretty irrelevant regardless.

>>71234369
What do you mean you managed to overtake us? All you did was expand into barren Siberian wasteland that was sparsely inhabited by Indo-Europeans who were migrating elsewhere anyway. Also the reason Finns are so blonde has nothing to do with taking the best Indo-European wives.

>>71234454
>>71234821
Traitor, you're meant to be on my side. There is nothing sadder than seeing two R1s opposing each other. I suppose it is natural, given our inherently competitive nature and desire for domination.

>>71234601

Low population densities are a bad argument since the incoming Finnics were equally few in numbers.

It was a fair fight for Finland and Estonia. IEs lost.

>>71234601
We did overtake you by taking lands that were previously yours.
>migrating elsewhere anyway
Nope. :)
>Also the reason Finns are so blonde has nothing to do with taking the best Indo-European wives
Yes it does, it's the reason why we're the most Indo-European people in Europe genetically. Because we fucked your purest, most untainted Aryan women.

>An estimate given by Haak et al. 2015 gives us the origin of Finns: 25% early Neolithic farmers (compared to Norwegians with 48% early Neolithic farmers), 10% Siberians (compared to Norwegian 4%), 8% western hunter-gatherers (Norwegian 0%) and 50% Yamnaya (Norwegian 48%).
http://terheninenmaa.blogspot.com/2015/11/indigenous-european-hunter-gatherer.html

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>>71234889
i never said i was R1, im emu actually, but here have a image to your side

>>71234337
Vote sverigedemocrates
>>71234389
Cant be undone we khand them by having couple of millions of finns integrating there over last 800 years>>71234601

>>71235020
>didnt mean to reply to this >>71234601 #

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>>71235020
swedes are proven to have less chink admixture, plus ghengis khan was not a chink

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fucking ninggenrs

>>71234895
It's hardly a victory over Indo-Europeans, though. You took some of our fringe regions of little importance and that's it. If you were as powerful as us, you should have taken much more of our land.

>>71234947
>Nope. :)
We were though.

>It's the reason why we're the most Indo-European people in Europe genetically.
Nice failure to understand genetics. It's the same reason why Europeans come out as part Native American in some genetic studies - shared ancestry from very ancient people. Europeans obviously don't have any native American in them, but both Europeans and Native Americans have shared ancestry from ancient ANE populations. It's the same with Finns and Yamnaya. Yamnaya are essentially EHG + some other West Asian group, and Finns have a large portion of their ancestry from EHG, but not the West Asian component which merged with EHG to form Yamnaya. So the supposed Yamnaya admixture in Finns mostly comes from pre-Indo-European populations.

>>71234984
Thanks senpai

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>extremely obvious thread to bait Finns
>175 replies half of them being from Finns

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>>71235360
delete this. we will never learn or maybe it's because we are too autistic

>>71235360
I wonder if we have been visited by the King himself?

>>71235360
Wherever finland is discussed, there I must be.

>>71235507
Why is Finland not included in that map?

>>71235507
>russia is fully in Asia
Wow, that map is absolutely correct

>>71235432
His doppelgangers are here

>>71235237

Finns maternal lines are mostly not EHG though.
EHGs had U5a and U4.

Finns have similar maternal lines as Germanic and Baltic folks but about 10% more U5b, which is thought to originate in Spain.

>>71235666
EHG is a pretty broad term. It could be from any EHG-like populations. But whatever, you got Devil trips so I guess you win. I need to sleep anyway.

>>71235237
>We were though.
Is there some record of this purported mass exodus?
>So the supposed Yamnaya admixture in Finns mostly comes from pre-Indo-European populations
Obviously it's not directly from Yamnaya as Yamnaya were R1b carrying dark-eyed swarthoids (due to their West Asian Anglo blood). It's the component that gave Indo-Europeans their blonde hair, stature and intelligence that peaks in us, and it's all that really matters. We have it most without any of the other impurities, because we subjugated the purest Indo-Europeans.

>>71235744

>staying up all night to talk about finns and haploshit

>>71235535
There it is in middle of it moron

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>>71235818
so, binland = savages, OKI

>>71235873
Thats what everyone here keeps saying

>>71235812
>Implying you all wouldn't do the same

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>>71235895
i have never read here someone saying binland = savages

>>71236000

I'm not so autistic I would shitpost about say, Greek DNA for 7 hours.

Jesus Christ, just kill yourself.

>>71236024
Thats literally what the forest wizard mongols meme is about.

>>71236081
Half of the discussion was about Indo-Europeans tbf. Also no need to get angry about it.

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>>71236184
i ve never ever read something savagic,barbaric about that

>>71236209

Just go get some sleep you autistic convict. Don't let the spiders crawl in your bum.

>>71236281
Thanks

>>71236272
Lay off tequila compadre

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>>71236420
lay off vodka, pekka

>>71236566
No u

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>>71236674
i ve never tried tequila, you on the other hand...

>>71236782
I drank vodka last time in last year

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>>71235360

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>>71221426
Daily reminder that this is what the pure Indo-europeans look like.

>>71237665
The Danish aren't white either so sit down

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Just testing if banned.

>>71235432
Kang isn't alive. But he left a legacy of followers who will continue the crusade to free finns and open their spirits to Karelian meme magic so they can be true wizards as their ancestors
Also finns have always been like this.
Specially around youtube, if you find videos about swedes or anything swedish related. Finns are there in the comments and doing their meme magic work.

>>71221426
What are you talking about? I've seen most Finns unironically embrace the meme as if it's literal truth. One fag went so far as to hit the Japanese Thread asking questions thinking they would identify with each other. It was really embarrassing.

>>71240179

What's your problem with Karelian culture you faggot?
It's very interesting for people of Karelian descent and other Finns too.

>>71222197
that shit is funny

when did this meme start

>>71240179
>>71240656
shungite, rly maeks you tink

>>71240656
People like you is why we are laughed at.

>>71222186
No only swedes and finns are fingols, even when swedes will never admit it

>>71241825
what's wrong with Karelians?

honest question

>>71242218
Nothing. They are most hardworking, honest and modest finns and theyre also the reason people think finns are good soldiers. Everyone I know in finland has this image of them too

>>71242266
wut

everyone knows everyone in the east just drinks and is an uneducated, likely unemployed redneck

>>71242340
Thats savonia and northern karelia. Other eastern finns are the literal fingols, but people from ladoga karelia and eastern karelia had very good image. Sad they dont practically exist anymore.

>>71242454

400k were distributed across the country.
Uusimaa has a lot of Karelian heritage and is the most successful province.

>>71221668
not really, Normans (btw half of their army consisted of Flemish mercenaries) just became the new upper class; Anglo-Saxons elite got downgraded but even today the majority of Brits are still predominately native Celts.

Especially with their class-oriented society not much changed over the centuries.

Think about it, why the fuck would anyone kill all the natives and then become an unwashed pig farmer yourself, while you can enforce your power-levels and rule over the peasant natives doing all the dirty work on your land from your big-ass mansion?

>>71242678
Karelians are the best finns. I dont know why, maybe because theyre least inbreed of us? They had distinctive culture too

>>71242839
literally kangz

did they really name themselves after Charlemagne (Karel) ?

>>71244230
Karelia=karjala
Karjala literally means land of livestock and agriculture
Karelians were first ones in northern europe to invent all fishing, farming and livestock. World should know about those übermensch

>>71242266
There are no finns in Karelia anymore.

>>71240179
>kang
>meme magic
>wizards
Reminder that these are all racist anti-Finnish stereotypes created by Swedes. No Pan-Finnicist ever talks about wizards or magic, it is yet another hateful propaganda tactic by Svecomans who want Finland and the Finnish people to remain under their boot (by making up lies of an inferior past).

Bump for Finn's

>>71221668
Holy fuck you know nothing about English history
Normans barely made a dent in English genetics as the English population was so huge compared to the Norman conquerers
Current English genentic makeup is 45% pre-norman French, 10-40% German depending on region, and 15-45% native Briton depending on region
This is based on genetic studies done in Oxford University, therefore far more credible than meme maps made on eupedia by neckbeards

>>71247848
>45% pre-norman French, 10-40% German depending on region
I call bullshit.

Let's finish this argument once and for all
White Europeans
>Britain
>Wales
>Ireland
>Scotland
>Netherlands
>Belgium
>Switzerland
>Germany
>France
>Montenegro
>Austria
>Luxembourg
>all of Eastern Europe
>Bulgaria
>Sweden
>Denmark
>Norway
>Iceland
>Slovenia
>Croatia
>Serbia

Non white Europeans
>Albania
>Moldova
>Bosnia
>Romania
>Spain
>Portugal
>Macedonia
>Italy
>Greece
>Finland

Any questions

>>71249250
>slavs are white
Kill this meme
>Finland isn't white
Kill this meme as well

>>71249402
We are not white. Now fuck off and stop trying to redeem yourself.

>>71221542
>america not yellow green

>>71249114
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-03-19-who-do-you-think-you-really-are-genetic-map-british-isles
https://www.rt.com/uk/242157-uk-dna-genetic-study/

Here's the full study:
http://www.nature.com/articles/nature14230.epdf?referrer_access_token=-BUO6RpU1TYgteqmBRiPQNRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0MiE0_B2kFTYAb64eH_EPxJVTPYUXvsFTwQ5imXeaCtbTgr2uzP-ms5POveodPjAWSFiBNMcc-CDJwDkWt3xoeWVe_lWbDZfXTxhIPRNFj6isZ0eHAkn_4ZkZGhLrtuO23vE30s8HMioQujouEEvhMf2ZtneMqNTsfPLNnMx14ox_62FHMeRUSHMG93rCrtbKLQtJ9lFOeIxT2xHG8SVvYwYVawGcehTrNrwc_df0dQoomHvOqiygWLCY2IPKy0rFg%3D&tracking_referrer=www.theguardian.com