When people in your country say 'white', what do they

Same in Finland. There's no difference between a South European and an Arab.

>>71199792
>being wh*te

>>71199792
/int/ made me realise that white people do not exist.

>>71199948
this

>>71199792
It's pretty obvious to tell who's white and who isn't. You can't easily tell by their facial structure/features and skin color. Also European doesn't equal white
White Europeans
>all of Eastern Europe
>Most of France
>Wales
>Ireland
>Scotland
>Britain
>Germany
>Austria
>Luxembourg
>Belgium
>Denmark
>Netherlands
>Iceland
>Sweden
>Norway
>Slovenia
>Serbia
>Croatia

Non whites
>Italy
>Spain
>Portugal
>Greece
>Macedonia
>Romania
>Albania
>Bosnia
>Moldova
>Finland

>>71200056
>>Serbia
>>all of Eastern Europe
wtf america

>>71200056
bosnia isn't white but somehow croatia and serbia are?

>some friends
>lying on an anonymous board

>>71200201
you don't have any friends? :^(

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white is an american term that means "not black"

stop mixing ethnicities with "whiteness"

>>71200133
lrn2/int/ where language and religion determine your skin colour

>>71200251
a better question is, what kind of an insecure autist would discuss whiteness with his fiends even if he has some???

>>71200338
indeed, most of them describe white as a social construct instead of as an ethnicity or race

I could care less whether or not Southern Europeans are considered white or not. I think we can all agree that Southern Europe is an absolute shithole. They were once the pillar of western civilization and now they're just a bunch of lazy olive niggers. I still don't know why their countries are such utter garbage. They have nothing to fall back on but, "muh heritage", "muh culture", and "muh ancient history".

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>>71199792
In spanish blanco =europeo

We don't meme about skin tone, eye color or haplomemes. It's just a geographical term linked to christianism desu. This is why we don't consider turks to be blancos (thus europeans) while we are basically the same. People should realize that spaniards aren't white in the english (an in other germanic languages) sense of the term.

We can pass for central europeans or from the deepest and darkest desert so we never developed the white supremacist theories and all that germanic bullshit. Pic related showing how different we can look.

>>71200550
Soooo, you're mixed

>>71200598
Yes, with berbers, they brought blue eyes and blonde hair. Canary Island indigenous (berbers) were described by early spanish conquistadors as very fair people.

>>71200479
No, /int/ gets butthurt when you say race is socially constructed, and then says that religion and language determine your skin color

>>71200688
Actually the country of your residence determines your skin color. If you live in a white country you feel white. And you are what you feel you are.

>>71199792
>and the french from white people
Say Somalia

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>Non whites
>Italy
>Spain
>Portugal
>Greece
>Macedonia
>Romania
>Albania
>Bosnia
>Moldova
>Finland

Dumb redneck detected!

>>71204409
no one of those countries are white

>>71199792
well i wish this were true and we were actually considered not-white like spanish and italian, because white people are discriminated in the media
white people are fucking persecuted

but no it doesn't work, you can be a southern french wog you will still be persecuted by the entire world like "you fucking white male" regardless, so no i'd say i am white

>whites
anyone with pale skin who isn't obviously arab

>non-whites
the rest

>>71200056
White is just a another word for slave.Those who are not on this list are free.

>>71200056
i get mad when they put subhumans ethnic groups like slavs or irish before us or italians/greeks

we literally shaped the world!!!

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>>71205509
For myself i am cutting away this label from my identity so people can't use it to control me.

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>>71199792
If when you think of white you think of Germanic tribes then yes only Germanic tribes are "white" how is this a discussion?
If you're speaking of the various Aryan tribes then those Aryan tribes are white.
White is redundant when you're speaking of just Germanic's.

>>71200056
You know that sweden has mongol dna too right?

White is someone of indo-european heritage, if a south european has it he is white.

>>71200998
>And you are what you feel you are.
very progressive words, so if I feel a chicken that means I'm a chicken, right?

>>71206002
From an Iberian perspective we see ourselves as white and the other Aryan tribes in the north and such as also white but not part of our iberian tribes.

>>71206307
It's funny because some parts os spain are as white as it gets because they almost didn't mix with even other european tribes. For example the basques

>>71206066
Look at the Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Greece national teams, they all look like Arabs. Modern day Southern Europeans are just a mixture of Turks, Jews, Berbers, Arabs, and gypsies. None of them are actually white

>>71206617
Spain was never white

>"... the swarthy faces of the Silures, the curly quality, in general, of their hair, and the position of Spain opposite their shores, attest to the passage of Iberians in old days and the occupation by them of these districts; ..." (Tacitus Annales Xi.ii, translated by M. Hutton)

>"The Silures have swarthy features and are usually born with curly black hair, but the inhabitants of Caledonia have reddish hair and large loose-jointed bodies. They are like the Gauls or the Spaniards."

>>71206617
You're a retarded shitskin.

>>71206697
typical shitskin.

>>71199792
>when people in your country say white what do they mean
Usually cuck

>>71206697
There was definitely blood traded between Southern Europeans, North Africans, and middle easterners though

>>71199792
Italy was never white, we are iberians

>>71199792
Recently the definition of white as germanic people is becoming more and more popular here. It'ss probably the most popular already, I don't know about people outside my state.

>>71200056
>Serbia
>White
i spit at your inferior race

>>71206617
Look at rugby teams. In Portugal national team you find blacks, halfa blacks, 1/4 blacks, gipsies, half brazilians, brazilians... this is not a good away of seeing the portuguese population. Look at our coaches, they don't look white? Go to algarve, the southern region in Portugal and see the natives if they don't look white too you. It's pointless to have a conversation who doesn't know much about genetics, phenotypes or doesn't even know the real population.

>>71206769
No there wasn't.

>>71206813
If this it so nobody is white because all of them have R1b admixture.

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>>71206861
>There was definitely blood traded between Southern Europeans, North Africans, and middle easterners though
>>71206769
>>71206731
>>71206698
>>71206617
>>71200998
>>71200688
>>71200598
>>71200457
>>71200056

>>71204777
Cashate voludo!

>>71206731
typical human taco in denial

>>71207257
post your face morroccan piece of shit.

>>71207294
Be Careful 1/256 cherokee and 1/64 black

>>71206899
Ironic since Northern Europe is extremely rich while Southern Europe is a poor shithole with terrible infrastructure and everyone(including the government) is in huge debt

>>71207389
I am defending Spain dumb ass.

>>71207398
north "europe" can blow up anyday and nobody would care. South Europe made the world.

Btw you're welcome for the discovering of the Americas

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>>71199792
We aren't white

>>71200056
Ah yes, the founders of western civilisation and the discoverers of the new world aren't white

>>71207544
So what? We're talking about now not shit that happened hundreds and thousands years ago. Yes, Southern Europe was the pillar of western civilization and now look at it, it's a shithole. Western and Northern Europe are thriving while Southern Europe is Africa tier. At least Eastern Europe had to deal with communism, what's your excuse. Italy has nothing to fall back on but "muh history", "muh culture", and "muh heritage". Pretty pathetic really, none of that shit matters anymore

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>>71207594
why would we want to be associated with cumskins?

>>71207644
listen, sorry if I triggered your scandi muh heritage inner self, I will pay more attention next time I post on an anonymous board.

>>71199792
Just Europeans, although when talking about "Australian" people here mean those of Anglo and/or Celtic decent

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>>71206617
>Southern Europeans were "white"

>>71207756
You can't dispute anything I said. The infrastructure, GDP, and living standards in Southern Europe are garbage right now. You barely have any developed regions.

>>71207880
>flag
comedy gold

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>>71207880

>>71207880
I know you're some twink trying to bait me because you secretely love the BIC and you're an italoboo slut who wants my D. But I've had enogh

>>71199792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R9Qiej-Tqo

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I'm white?

>>71207644
Eastern europe is not white and it's a shithole sorry.

>>71207880
>The infrastructure
>As of June 2013, the Spanish AVE system is the longest HSR network in Europe with 3,100 km (1,900 mi) and the second in the world, after China's.

nigga, you are small time

>GDP

memes, we have a massive informal sector

>living standards

yeah, and we have the longer life expectancy in the EU

>>71207966
do you have any foreign family?

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>be Southern European
>be poor as shit
But hey, WE WUZ ROMANZ N SHIIIEEETTT, amirite

>>71207966
>ese suelo
cuántos años tiene tu casa?

>>71208012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACf5ZYxPqes
together we will make Spain the world power once again.

>>71208029
love me for what I am, bae

>>71207966
feet pls

>>71207974
Neither is Portugal and it's a shithole also, you two have that common

>>71208029
post the homicide rate, my nigga, even your whitest state can't beat southern europe

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>>71208012
>yeah, and we have the longer life expectancy in the EU

no you don't

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>>71208132

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>>71208132
>SCANDKEKS BTFO

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>>71208015
No. My mother's side is from Cordoba since 1700 atleast and my father's side is from a little town in Jaen who has some iberian ruins.
>>71208042
Creo que el piso es del 70. Le preguntare al casero.
>>71208101
:^)

>>71208132
eurostat says otherwise, 83.3 for spain

>>71208126
Of course you have to change subject, of course we have higher homicide rate. America is not culturally and racially homogenous and has a much bigger population you fucking idiot. Southern Europe is Africa tier compared to western and Northern Europe, what's your excuse. Despite that homicide rate we are still an economic and military superpower

>>71208132

pisa
Math, Science, Reading
Sweden 478, 485, 483

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>>71208214
*the
*and

>>71208205
pls be my bf

>>71208214
>bigger population

top kek, so that's why small central american countries have a lower homicide rate as well, you are a nigger and your mother a whore that fucked the most retarded nigger ever to be able poop such a massive fatbrained nigger

>>71208226
keeeeeeeeeeeeek

>>71208029
I see no Italian or spaniard wants to reply to my post. Why can't you admit that your countries are shit, what's your excuse. Surely the creators of western civilization can manage better than this

>>71208189
>>71208208
I mean, we're not even talking a year here but alirght. You have me beaten.

>>71208174
>>71208223
>we're talking about life expectancy

?

>>71208120
It's white and it's not a shithole. But I have visited eastern european countries and know something about the latest dna tests made to the portuguese population. But you... I think you don't know either

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>>71208226
Well memed

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>>71208257
Sissy or girl?

I mean why the hell do white europeans hate us? We gave them civilization, architecture, knowledge. We elevated them from their animal like life.
And now that it's an unfortunate time for us, for time is the destroyer of all things, they despise us and spit on us? feels bad

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>>71208340
>Portugal
>first world
Pick one nigger

>>71208499
>NEETs on /int/ doing a shitty attempt at feeling superior is the normal way of thinking

Italy has the best girls and food. I even lived in Torino for 2 years.

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>>71208499
No idea and I always found it weird, they hate us while importing millions of muslims. I mean look at the poles, as soon as they joined the EU they moved en masse to western Europe while we barely did that, not even our fucking gypsies.

>>71208447
How do you deal with the summers in Cordoba? Isn't it the hottest city in Spain? How many years did it take for you to grow that hair?

>>71208499
Doesn't matter. Why do you caré what they think? Why some southerb europeans try to pass their countries population as white, is a bigger issue? It's self-hate and sign of inferiority complex

>>71208571
I understand that neets and losers have to steal the achievements of their nation as a whole or from people that share an ethnic background with them, but I didn't know there were so many white supremacists desu.

>>71208578
Just stay away from the sun and drink water
The last time I cut it was november 2015.
Why?

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Spain and Italy aren't THAT BAD for fucks sake, you people take your fucking memes and stereotypes too far.

>>71208029
>>71208547
I see no wants to reply to these posts, who gives a shit what Italy and Greece did hundreds of years ago. They are shitholes right now and nothing will change that

>>71208701
Ok, Tyron or Jesus, or even a mix like Tysus or Jesuson, when you finish picking up the cotton or the oranges, or whatever you do to be able to pay for your meth we'll reply, meanwhile stay quite and behave.

why are spaniards so terrible at banter

>>71208694
>>71208620
whites are superior to us nowadays. It's time we deal with it.
Still, they shouldn't be so rude to us.

>>71208658
Keep in mind that 4chan is very attractive for those kinds of people though. Normal people don't around hating others unless they have a valid excuse.

>>71208694
The facts don't lie son, northern and Western Europe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Why aren't the creators of western civilization better than that. It's sad to see how Greece and Italy have fallen, now they're just a bunch of tax evading lazy olive niggers

>>71208547
Well we live in a good situation, our wages are low but so is everything and we have better healthcare than any of you, clean streets, security, social wellfare and everything works. Be careful burger you never know when you'll be one more in the wallmart sharting yourself in an egiro without money to pay for you diabetic drugs

>>71208807
stupid nig, meds are white.

>>71208694
>India over Italy
>Brazil over Spain
You have to admit that's pretty fucking pathetic

>>71208851
Shut up, this type of talk is counter-productive

>>71208701
>post no source
>post meme map
>" no 1 respond me :'("

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>>71208807
>superior
>meanwhile they are autogenociding themselves

>>71208892
retard fuck.

>>71208851
We aren't white. We are iberians and italians

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>>71208687
>Why?
Yo que sé, era para comentar algo.

>>71208851
italians are anatolians, spaniards and portuguese are iberians.

>>71208921
retard.

>>71208934
See>>71208343
Eurocentrists are fucking pathetic, greatest empires came from non whites, FACT

what did Alberto mean by this?

>>71208551

>>71209020
>meds are not euros
end this meme please

>>71208988
you're probably an italian or ieberian descendent, so you want to include us with white people so you won't suffer racsim, but that is YOUR problem, not ours.

>>71208694
>aren't THAT BAD
Not a very high standard, so instead of being complete shit(Africa) you're semi shit. That's still not a good thing. Europe is pretty overrated honestly, too many garbage ass countries

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>>71208921
Sorry you're the same race as the Irish, just a little more tan. Just like Cantonese people are the same race as Han Chinese but look a bit different.

>>71208951
Maldito Jorge. Para que me tomaré el esfuerzo de responderle en inglés.
>>71208988
I'm the guy who posted his feets and I don't identify myself with the snowniggers.

>>71209101
nice paint skills, meanwhile white people are easy to spot in Spain

>>71209056
Sicilians are borderline, but North Italians, Spanish and Portuguese are around as European as the French:
>>71209101

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>>71209140
>are around as European as the French

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>>71199792

>>71209132
Are you South American diaspora? /pol/ is full of american spics and they're obsessed with calling everybody nonwhite.

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>>71209167
kek

>>71209140
>as European as the French
no, we're mediterraneans, not subsaharians

>>71209101
>208921
those maps are memes, we are close to them yet look very different, and have very different cultures, etc.. bullshit, white people start north os pyrenees and alps, carphatians

>>71209179
No, 100% cristiano viejo as far as the baptism records can tell.

>>71209234
>genetic maps are memes
Moron.

>>71209059
dumb retard fuck.

quando i barbari anglofoni ci insultano noi tutti, discendenti di re ed imperatori, dovremmo ignorarli e continuare i discorsi nelle nostre lingue romanze e latine

>>71199792
When people say "white" here, it implies "Bijelci", the European nations. But race discussions are ridiculed here, and not actually considered an issue here.
We have more pertinent, political and economic issues we bitch about. People invoking race/religious "wars" and such are considered time wasters, since they obviously have a lot of time to waste on talking about perceived distant issues

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>>71208807
You are comparing big countries to small nordic states which are easy to be more "developed per capita" and not have a massive rural population or more than one million gypsies dragging their statistics down. You should compare the Nordics to small rich states like the Persian Gulf Arab states. The only countries we should compare us to are France, the UK and Germany and we are on their line following close, we have showed in any case an enormous economical and social resilience being were we are after what we have been through.

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All these snowniggers pretending we're the same as them. Disgusting.

>>71209384
Saved. How exactly did the Euro destroy industry outside of Germany?

>>71209326
>Sergi added that the Mediterranean race "in its external characters is a brown human variety, neither white nor negroid, but pure in its elements, that is to say not a product of the mixture of Whites with Negroes or negroid peoples.

>Sergi ridiculed Nordicists who claimed that the leaders of ancient Greek and Roman civilization were Germanic in origin and argued that the Germanic invasions at the end of the Roman empire had produced "delinquency, vagabondage and ferocity".

giuseppe sergi tenía razón

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>>71209101
Spot on.

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>>71209306
>but muh meme gene maps

>>71209460
>there's a negro in sweden
>therefore Swedish ethnicity is negro
those darkies are not natives.

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>>71209460
I wonder if this new worlders claiming that southern europe is white are diaspora themselves.

>>71209101
holly shit Magna Grecia is real.

>>71209460
>>71209579
>Angolans telling me who's white or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8kanM67LZY

>>71209460
lel ok but this is a fake tan

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>>71209571
yes, they are. we have always been dark you retard. the sun is extremely strong here, even if genes are similar, the sun has changed us, we addepted, and became darker people. and even our old unmixed populations wasnt white, proto-iberians looked like this, dark and berberid

>>71209579

there is something like that.
When Argentines go to Spain or Southern Italy, they realize many Argentines whom they thought were mestizos, were just ethnic look southern euros.

I mean people like Nadal or Verdasco. If I saw them here I would think they must have a Paraguayan father or something like that.

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>>71209634
Why are you such a cuck white wannabe? Spanish and Portuguese empires were created AFTER being enriched by arabs anyway. It isn't like white supremacist can claim that during the empires people were white as they do with Ancient Egypt.

>>71209579
obvious, because they suffer racism in those lands, they want to be recognized as white badly, but people see that they are different

>When people in your country say 'white', what do they mean?

doesn't happen, nobody cares about whiteness, at least not openly.

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>>71209684
so much this

>>71209708
yes, but we were always dark, never european blonde-blue-eyed. we came from staright of gibraltar, other europeans from the east, it's well documented

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>>71209460
I bet her nipples are pink, no kidding, that looks like a typical case of tan hysteria plus bad lighting, kinda like the phases of extreme tanning that Guardiola goes through.

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>>71209784
>from cancer patient to cancer manager

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>>71209708
>>71209684
>the most superficial things are more important than genetics

A tan chink is still the same race as a pale chink.

>>71209784
so what if pink nipples? portuguese people look like that naturally, in the end of summer, just by walking in the street. pink nippples means whit to behonest, and it looks like wannabee talk

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>>71209828
>superficial things

I know you live in a mongrel country but in the Old world, ethnicity is everything. I don't care about some EU funded genetic studies to fake an european identity that has never existed.

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>>71209867
means shit*

>>71209140
what did he mean by this?

>>71209828
I feel sorry for you to be honest, portuguese-americans and portuguese-canadians were a mistake. you develop weird complexes

>>71209967
>portuguese-canadians

Oh shit, you are right, I forgot about that portueugese living in Canada. This is why he is so butthurt about not being white.

>>71209934
he posted a meme map, that showed mediterraneas close to french people, like that means something, and people dont have eyes. hes south euro diaspora with unresolved issues about his race

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>>71209828
Look, we're not the same, even facially wise, the bones are diverse.
We're more gentle shaped, kind of like ancient roman and greek statues.
Germanics are more let's say stern with big jaws and high cheekbones. Their eyes are more sunken, their front is wider.

We are a lot diverse, it's not just a tan, or eye/hair colour

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>>71209908
>I don't care about some EU funded genetic studies to fake an european identity that has never existed.
What are you talking about? The map clearly shows genetic divide between /European ethnicities, while at the same time showing how they're relatively close to the rest of the world. "White" or "European" isn't an ethic group, it's more of a subspecies of the human species. I don't even support the EU.

>>71209867
No one in my family or circle of friends look like this in winter without a fake tan. Most of us are not dark skinned and being tan doesn't mean being arab. There are plenty of tan people in scandinavia for example.

>>71210009
white = northern european germanic speaker

that's all

>>71209991
some portuguese-canadians have positive attitudes, like nelly furtado, but others are ashamed of what they are

http://nativeappropriations.com/2012/05/nelly-furtados-big-hoops-video-native-dancers-represent.html

we all remeber her touching lyrics

Paint my face in your magazines
Make it look whiter than it seems
Paint me over with your dreams
Shove away my ethnicity

>>71210006
>We are a lot diverse, it's not just a tan, or eye/hair colour
Yes, and north Han are different than Cantonese people. I'm not denying there exist subgroups of subgroups. There is also variation within an ethnic group. Biologists divide species into subspecies using genetic distance metrics. "White" or "Caucasian" or "European" is an umbrella group.

>>71210025
retard Moroccan, andalusians aren't white, good that's okay to say.

>>71210013
yes, arabs and southern europeans. whites tan goldenc olour or not at all, not brown like us

>>71210054
we're caucasian maybe, not white

>>71210009
White = Germans invaders and their rapebabys the french.
European = Non arabised or germanized mediterraneans.

>>71210025
What is a "northern european"? Why does the language matter?

>>71210088
>>71210074

you are not white, deal with it, and do something with that inferiority complex

>>71210087
How are Germans white and other aren't? Jefferson thought Swedes were swarthy. The only people who are truly pale are gingers.

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>>71199792
>I asked some friends

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>>71210087
>non arabised mediterraneans
Kabylia confirmed for european

>>71210129
you are sad!!!!!

>>71209991
the new world, and in general the anglo world, is pretty fucked up

>>71210123
Not an argument.

>>71210149
See
>>71210157

You're the sad one.

>>71207880
meme bro, infraestructure in Spain in 10 better than in the USA

>>71210190
le leafy lad look, how contrived. sad!

>>71210214
Still not an argument.

>>71210009
>how they're relatively close to the rest of the world.
relatively close to each other compared to the rest of the world*

>>71209867
I assume that after many generations through thousands of years of people working this land with extreme sun radiation you end up with a more dark-skinned population, and the contrary goes from people in sun devoid climates, it's just natural, it's normal evolution. You just need to see the cases of skin cancer in Australia (or in Sweden due to people going in summer to southern climates) to realize how real is this shit. It might also be affected through epigenetics in a pseudo-lamarckian way as we know since that famous study in the Netherlands that epigenetic traits can have deep effects and be inherited, but that's just hypothesis.

>>71210277
no.

>>71210214
He remembers me to this guy.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-10-28/im-white-barcelona-los-angeles-im-hispanic

Again, white and blanco aren't synonomous. This is why we have all this meaningles discussions on int about who is white or not.

>>71210078
I don't tan brown, I almost don't tan and is kinda redish. Have you been to France? Ireland? Wales? Not all oh them tan gold, this is simply not true. You wouldn't belive how naturally dark can a german be for example. I made erasmus and believe it some of this /int/ knowledge is just memes and bantering

>>71208447
>es del cordoba
pfaajajajajajajajajajjajajajajajajajAJJAJAJAJAJJAJA

I don't give a fuck about memes against italians, but leave spainbros alone

>>71210337
CHI

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>>71210006
>let me post mixed raced people inhabiting an area
>therefore the original race of the people was never white

CA

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>>71210087
Whole of Western Europe was Nordified/Germanicized during the Germanic migrations after the fall of Rome and the Viking settlements. Most original Celtic Brits (and Gauls and Celtiberians), as described by the Romans themselves were swarthy, not like Pakis but kinda like Oswald Mosley with dark hair and brown eyes but fair skin. However, the Germans are more french rape-babies than viceversa.

>>71210369
pic 1 is the original iberian where all the cum babbies inhabiting the territory of spain come from.

wtf is wrong with north americans seriously? like wtf, leave us alone, back off

>>71210369
didn't know spaniards were made by bethesda

>>71210337
Y orgulloso. ¿Algún problema chicano?

>>71210398
You're like wild animals we study. You don't have the proper perspective.

>>71210369
those people are very far from white my friend, don't know if that's what you are implying, I hope so, otherwise you are trully deluded.

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>>71210392
>However, the Germans are more french rape-babies than viceversa.

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Even though muh heritage is mostly snownig

>>71208889
Those two countries have way bigger population than any country in Southern Europe

>>71210412
>How do you want me to randomize you?
>just fuck my shit up

>>71210434
irrelevant, it doesn't make southern europeans white. middle-easterns also had nice buildings and civilizations

"white" is some idiotic new world term to somehow categorize parts of their disgusting mongrel nations. we're europeans, you are not.

>>71210434
who cares, nowadays we're poor subhumans while the whites have won

>>71210418
Que tal la segunda division?

>>71210434
And yet, white europeans achieved the most advanced societies in human history. And let's not forget that history only feeded history book writers and some museums.

>>71210519
poverty does not make one sub-human, technology and industrial life just doesn't suit us

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>>71210494
I am a Greek.

>>71210488
So being white doesn't mean anything, there's no such thing as white superiority then

>>71210522
Mal, vamos a descender a la tercera categoría probablemente. Tenemos un ladrón por dueño.

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>based spaniards and portuguese taking pride in memes and confusing ameritards

southerner europeans are truly blessed

Have white people accomplish anything. You have 10 seconds to name a blonde haired/blue eyed person that contributed anything to history

>>71210424
They are Aryan Iberian, White does not mean Germanic.

>>71210573
true dat


Well my romance brothers, it has been an honour to shitpost with you. You sir are scholars and enlightened men.

But the stars are calling and the Moon is singing me the farewell lullaby. Good night.

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>>71210635
You retard, White does not mean blonde blue eyed, it means the Aryan tribes native to Europe.

Aryan = Aryan
Aryan Germanic = Aryan Germanic
Aryan Iberian = Aryan Iberian

>>71210601
never said there was or wasn´t. being white is about phenotype and genes.

>>71210684
But /pol/ and /Int/ told me only blonde haired/blue eyes Nordics are white

>>71210684
White = Aryan tribes
You should say Non-Germanics are bad, but you share Aryan label with other Non-Germanics.

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>>71210424
Why do you let other peoples define what is "white"?

Most Southern Euros (and even many Mid-Easterns) have very white skin when they are not tanned or avoid the sun during an entire season, actually more close to white looking than "Germanics" who are pink/reddish.

In the end it was us, followed by the Brits and the French the first to use the term "white" to distinguish between us, the colonial settlers from Europe and the African slaves and Native Americans. In fact the term "white" came in contraposition to the "negro" term, if the "negro slaves" were black then we Europeans were white, it was that simple.

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Do these Swedes look Aryan to you?

>>71210670
Goodnight, please don't wake up.

>>71210684
>aryan iberian
>aryan
>iberian
aahahahaha I will take a print-screen of this, sorry

>>71210732
>and even many Mid-Easterns
Fuck off moor.

>>71210742
this

>>71210757
yes.

>>71210736
It looks like their boipucci is supreme

>Asians are the smartest
>blacks are the most athletic
>mediterraneans are artists, philosophers, architects, and created the greatest empires

White people have.....?

>>71210732
Ancient greeks said their where inbetween. Not white, nor black, but brown.

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>>71210762
Rude.

>>71210909
moor as fuck.

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>>71210849
[citation needed]
Even Arabs called themselves "white" because they had the Zanj to which they could compare themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell_Sermon

>>71210909
skin color /=/ aryan
I could burn my skin that I would still be aryan.

>>71210909
if all germans tanned their skin black, they still wouldn't be black people.

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>>71210957
>>71210941
>>71210928
>>71210993
nice "language" you guys have, lel

While there are clear biological and genetic differences between people, there's no such thing as the "white", "black", or Asian race. The term "white" is incredibly arbitrary and subjective, the definition of who's who changes everyday. Italians are Italians, Greeks are Greek, spaniards are spaniard, Germans are German, and British people are British. Honestly just being considered "white" seems like an insult, it's disingenuous to just label all Europeans as "white". It's a liberal tactic used to undermine the great genetic diversity, culture, and heritage of Europeans. It also undermines the hardship Irish and Italians had to go through in America, but Because there's a notion that you can't be racist to "white" people created by Jewish liberals, no one understands the struggle they had to go through and how hard they had to work to be considered "white". Every single European person I've ever met don't even consider themselves white, they just go by ethnicity. Only America is obsessed with this garbage. There should be a much more effiecent way of labeling people, maybe just go by people's ethnicities instead.

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>>71210993
And albino Africans aren't "white".

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>>71210928
But his skin wasn't brown there, this is not uncommon among many mid-easterns who avoid the sun as much as that Saudi king did.

>>71210736
ABBA?

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>>71211034
>there's no such thing as the "white", "black", or Asian race.

But there clearly are genetic clusters on genetic distance maps. Whatever you call these clusters, they exist. "White" could be relative, but there clearly is a "European" cluster of closely related (genetically) ethnic groups.

>>71199850
same here i never heard the term "white" until i started using the internet, you are only taught about caucasians. mongoloids and negroids in school

>>71210993
I don't think you are getting the point at all.

>>71211059
Yes

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>>71211088
>caucasians. mongoloids and negroids in school
When people say "white" colloquially they mean caucasian, but obviously it can't be about skin colour since there are pale blue eyed east asians.

>>71211176
then why do they put hispanics in a diferent category? and im sure if you ask a random american if he thinks pakis are white they will say no most of the times

>>71211176
There are tons of North Africans and middle easterners with obvious Caucasian skull structures and features. Just look at Syrians for example, some of them could even pass "white" people in America or Europe, but they still wouldn't be considered white in the American/European sense. The Caucasoid, Mongoloid, negroid, and australoid grouping may have some scientific basis it's outdated. It would be much esker if people just go by ethnicity instead

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>>71211247
hispanics means this.

>>71211265
*but
*easier

>>71211293
still i am from spain and considered hispanic

>>71211293
Why not just call it mestizo instead which is the proper term, Hispanic is just an ethnicity

>>71211265
Caucasian is not white.

Germanic = Germanic
Aryan tribes = Aryan
When speaking of white, one needs to think of what you're speaking of, are you speaking of Germanic's or are you saying all of the Aryan tribes etc..

The last Aryan tribe ends in Greece.

>>71210941
I can't remember, Herodotus or the author of the Anabasis.

>>71211326
El commieforniANO

>>71211247
"Hispanics" in north america tend to be 50% Amerindian. Unlike in the prairies of north america, central america had huge populations which were never eradicated.

> if you ask a random american if he thinks pakis are white they will say no most of the times
There is obviously a disconnection between biology and what random people say and genetic studies/ethnography.

>>71210957
The "proto-Indoeuropeans" of the Yamnaya culture were mostly brown eyed and dark haired with a fair skin that was easy to tan. The people of whom all European languages and the Aryan peoples derive from looked like that. The original Europeans were not blonde and blue eyed, that's a posterior adaptive trait.

>The Yamna culture is identified with the late Proto-Indo-Europeans (PIE) in the Kurgan hypothesis of Marija Gimbutas. It is the strongest candidate for the Urheimat (homeland) of the Proto-Indo-European language, along with the preceding Sredny Stog culture, now that archaeological evidence of the culture and its migrations has been closely tied to the evidence from linguistics[14] and genetics.

>The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA study conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al.(2014), Mathieson et al. (2015) : they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.[18][5] Surprisingly, given their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture

>>71211326
Yes, but Hispanic generally means Mexican.

I could care less whether I'm regarded as "white" or not by a bunch of anonymous underages on 4chan, but you guys do know that blue eyes were a recent genetic mutation in Europeas, it only happened around a 1000 years ago. Brown eyes and brown/dark hair is still the most common combination in Europe and has exist for a long before blue eyes. It's not like Southern Europeans were blonde haired/blue eyed people and then mixing with the moors diluted the gene pool, even if the moors Mixed a lot with the Southern European population that still wouldn't be enough to displace the entire gene pool. Southern Europeans always had dark hair, dark eyes, and olive/swarthy skin. You can consider that white or not white if you want, it's up to you.

>>71211372
No soy ese

>>71211531
>olive/swarthy skin.
Aryan = Aryan
You can tell if someone is from an Aryan tribe or is from an Un-Aryan tribe, Aryan means white not Caucasian, white comes from Europe thus Aryan.

>>71211598
Did you even read what I said, it doesn't really matter to whether I'm considered to be aryan or "white" by people. Besides the Aryans existed long before hitler's bastardized version. The ancient Persians were Aryans and they did not have blonde hair and blue eyes, plus they existed in Asia, or parts of the Middle East. Hell the swastika has been an ancient symbol long before the nazis took it up as their own

>>71211690
Aryan tribes = Aryan
Iran is fully assimilated to middle easterners.

>>71211706
So do you consider all ethnic Europeans to be "white" or neutral northern ones

>>71211762
All the native Aryan tribes of Europe are Aryan.

>>71211799
So all ethnic Europeans are white according to you, since aryan=white

>>71211762
Someone could be solely for the Germanic tribes and hate the other European Aryan tribes, it doesn't matter.

In our dictionary, white people means the ones you have big nose and brighter skins then we have, other than that the rest ones are all Americans. I might be wrong but i don't care.

>>71199792
So their are including dark skinned countries like Enshlish, Switzerland, Germany and so on and excluding true white countries like Poland, Slovakia, Czech, Ukraine, Belarus and western Russia?

White:
English
Nords
Japanese
Hong Kongese
Slavs
Black people with afros

Not white:
French (les negres de neige)
Chinese
Black people with dreads
White people with dreads