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What it is more important for you, regional identity or national

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What it is more important for you, regional identity or national identity?

I am first a Valencian, then a Spaniard. How is it in your case?
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I am both Madrilenian and Spanish at the same time
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Dutchman first, Utrechter second. Could be because regional idenity in Utrecht (the province, not the city) is virtually non-existant.
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>>70923508
Spanish first Spanish second
Viva Spain
Arriba Spain
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>>70923612
I mean, which one comes first to your mind when asked about identity? if you had to describe your identity with just one?
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>>70923659
Valencian just means spanish thus isn't much of an identity.
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>>70923508
How come there is two Aragons?
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>>70923508
When I am in Japan, regional identify is important, because everyone around me is almost Japanese.
When I am outside of Japan, national identify is important of course. No one does care about Japanese regions.
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>>70923712
>america

*phew* not surprised anymore
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>>70923739
pic mistake, west one is asturias
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>>70923659
If a foreigner asks me, I'll answer Spanish
If a fellow Spaniard asks me, I'll answer I'm from Madrid

None of them comes first, one if them is just more specific than the other
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Only Yorkshire
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>>70923768
Regional identities are memes.

having locality interest is normal but that's just localism, you can still be Spaniard and be for local interests, what isn't normal is region identity.
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>>70923508

Albertan first, then a member of the Commonwealth, then diaspora, then Canadian
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>>70923767
This pretty much. It depends on the context
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>>70923875
I would have local interest regardless of where I lived, it's normal.
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>>70923508
I'm pretty nationalistic, still being Patagonian comes first even if our history it's pretty recent. it's difficult to relate with the northemost regions in the cultural sense.
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I don't even know what would I be.
> roots are from Herzegovina
> born in Bosnia, Republika Srpska, "Eastern" Sarajevo
> parents orthodox Christians, thus Serbs
> Living in Belgrade last half of my life
>ex commie, thus a bit Yugonostalgic even tho I was born after Yugoslavia collapsed.

I just say that I am a citizen of the planet Earth nowadays.
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>>70923508
España es una MIERDA ya que nosotros los CASTELLANOS gente de bien y protectores de la fe CATÓLICA y la pureza de nuestras benditas TIERRAS tenemos que compartir estado con garrapatas ARAGONESAS,JUDEIDIZANTES CATALANES,puercos VALENCIANOS, mofetas BALEARICAS,perras VASCAS Y NAVARRAS,vacas GALLEGAS gitanos MURCIANOS,moros ANDALUCES y traidores LEONESES. Cada día rezo a San Fernando rey cruzado de estas nuestras SANTAS tierras y a DOÑA Isabel de Trastamara para que resurezcan y nos guie a la gente de BIEN, LOS CASTELLANOS, a una nueva época dorada de FE, CULTURA Y PROSPERIDAD COMO ACOSTUMBRABAMOS ANTES DE TENER QUE AGUANTAR A LA CHUSMA DE ESTA ESPAÑA SIN MORAL NI VALORES.
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>>70924404
you are serb.
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>>70924819
The only way I would agree that I am a Serb is that everyone agrees American nationality doesn't exist and never existed.
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>>70924922
American nationality is state citizenship of any of the 50 states of the union, the race is white and the states are 50, we support our union etc..
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>>70924991
Yes but that isn't "blood related" nationality. Just like mine. I have 2 citizenship. Both Bosnian and Serbian. born in Bosnia.
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>>70923508
Quebec first
French second
North american third
Human fourth
Canadian fifth
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>>70925096
bosnia is fake state either way.
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National always comes first, but I would never identify with New York State as a whole. New York state has a major divide between NYC+Long Island and the rest of the state. I would call myself a Central New Yorker though.
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>>70923767
>>70923932
These
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>valencian
What the fuck is that? Some retarded breed of Catalans?
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>>70923508
english first, british second
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Italian first
Genoese second
Ligurian third
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>>70924991
>the race is white
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>>70923508
I am greek
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>>70923508
First
The Legendary ARYAN NORTE.

second
mexican
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>>70923840
are you a dog?
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>>70926144
Yes, just like you are from Galicia
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>>70923508
Do you guys consider yourselves catalans too?
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>>70924617
buena Alfonso
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Texan 1st
Southerner 2nd
American 3rd
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hey I'm tourist
what should I do on sunday? all shops are closed sunday,right?
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>>70926767
Smoke weed. Spain is new Holland.
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>>70924991
You guys aren't white.. America is probably the least white country after Australia (where ex Europeans live).
You guys mixed with Indians and Blacks a lot.
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>>70926854
thanks but I'm with my sister's family :(
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>>70926767
GO TO CHURCH AND ATTEND A MASS YOU FILTHY HUMAN GARBAGE
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>>70923508
German first, Hessian second.

A Bavarian might answer differently.
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>>70926935
>my sister's family

wut
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>>70927028
>wut
Her political family I guess.Or maybe she is his half sister or something
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>unironically thinking that regional identity is more important than a national one
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>>70927076
>>70927028
Obviously it's her husband and maybe children
Did you guys forget people get married?
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>>70923508
regional
a nation without regional cultures is boring and stagnant
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>>70927143
what is important is class. Not nationality.
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>>70927189
>regional
*tips*
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>>70927213
>what is important is class. Not nationality.
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Si no nos separasen tanto los regionalismos y seriamos una mejor nación.
Las culturas locales estan muy bien pero odiar al pais en general es una tremenda estupidez.
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I really don`t care about my region so only nationality is important in my case
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>>70927310
stop copying our language sbain
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>>70927310
>Si no nos separasen tanto los regionalismos y seriamos una mejor nación.
Si no hubiera ANDALUCES,CATALANES,ARAGONESES,VALENCIANOS,ARAGONESES,LEONESES,ASTURIANOS,GALLEGOS,EXTRMEÑOS Y DEMÁS CALAÑA EL PAÍS SERÍA MUCHO MEJOR
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>>70927310
Pero en algunos casos la region tiene uno significado de nacion, entonces odiar al país soberano es algo aceitable
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Slovak, region is only important when talking with other Slovaks, but then again, i dont live in one where regional pride is very high
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>>70923508
Irish first
Dubliner second
European third
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>>70927548
>European
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>>70927588
You're the fedora minority m8 not me
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>>70927637
>You're the fedora minority m8 not me
>Feeling european
>Not a fedora
Pick one
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>>70923508
First Castilian
Second Spaniard
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>>70923508
I am firstly Spabiard, then Spaniard, and them, maybe from my city.
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>>70931772
Spaniard*
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>>70924991
>american nationality
>white race

ayy lmaooo
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I don't care either way.
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Scottish first. Scots-Italian for muh heritage.
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Regional
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>>70931872
t. Vincenzo MacLeod
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>>70931919
>Teuchter surnames
My surname is Italian.
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>>70923508
national is more important, to bad Belgiun doesn't have that. so Flemish it is, then antwerp(ian? idk).
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New York never
USA never
fuck where I live.

I'm leaving the fuck out of here in 2020.
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>>70924404
Balkanite?
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American first then South Dakotan second
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>>70923508
My region doesn't have its own identity since people here are a mix of people resettled from various parts east. It often gets lumped with Either of Silesias, with Lower Silesia being closer comparison.

Thus I have no particular loyalty to my region, only for a country as a whole
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>>70923508
Antioquean/Paisa first, human second
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>>70923508
American

New Englander

Whatever the fuck people from CT are called
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>>70924991
wew lad
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ARRIBA ESPAÑA UNIDA!
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>>70926913
>You guys mixed with Indians and Blacks a lot.
Slavic Education
Most whites her have great grandparents from Europe and the older families abided by one drop. Having a non-white in the family was a huge no-no. Even having an Italian or Irishmen in your family was a disgrace. It's where our one drop thing came from.
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>>70925262
Good post
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>>70924617
>tfw Castille is the worst part of spain
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Why is Catalunya is so smug bros?
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american by birth
southern by the grace of god
hope this helps
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>>70923508
First Spaniard, then Vallecano then Madrileño.
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>>70926695
Pancatalan regionalists and nationalists do, Valencian regionalists and nationalists and centralist Valencians don't.
I couldn't find it but I looke for the November 9th of some years ago remembrance of the reconquest of Valencia where Valencianists and Spanists called fills de puta to the Catalanists.
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>>70923508
I literally don't care what I am. Just don't hurt me.
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There is no regional identity here, really, outside of the more isolated parts like The West Coast and Southland
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Karelian first, Finnish as second
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>>70923508
my region/state is shit i give zero shits about it or even my birth state only american
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I'm a lone wanderer.
I have no home
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>>70923508
SInce I live in Madrid and my parents r from Madrid and Andalucia, and Madrid isn't a special snowflake region that talks weird, I'll go with Spaniard
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>>70932434
>colombian
>human
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>>70936087
>peruvian
>living creature
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new jersey man first
philadelphian close second (fuck the rest of pennsylvania though desu)

shitalian-american third
american fourth
shitposter fifth ;)
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>>70923508
which of your eyes is important - left or right ?
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>>70923767

seventh post best post
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>>70926946
haha I'm shintoist and don't like CHURCH

seriously though
what should I do on sunday?
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>>70923767
>everyone around me is almost japanese
Korean?
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>>70936862
>what should I do on sunday?
Go to a bar
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>>70934650
MADRID ES CASTILLA PUTO MORO GITANO ANDALUZ
>>70933392
>Vallecano
t.INDIO TIrAFLECHAS
VUELVE A TU PAÍS MONO
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>>70932740
>>tfw Castille is the worst part of spain
IT IS LITERALLY AND OBJECTIVELY THE BEST
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I don't really feel attached to either.
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Californian first. Soon I may be Californian only, if I'm not dead.
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>>70940503
You mean Mexican soon when trump deports you.
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>>70940523
H-he wouldn't deport a halfie w-would he?
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>>70940362
>Castilla
Stop that meme the comuneros died long time ago
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>>70923508
European first, then a Helsinkian, then a world citizen, then Finnish.
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>>70940777
if parent is non legitimate yes.
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>>70923508
Mexican first, chilango/capitalino in a very far second place.
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American
Rural (kinda)
Northerner
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>>70932457
Connecticucks
t. New Hampshirite
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>>70923508
I'm an American first and Californian second.
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>>70931987
Connor MacL'vinzio
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First Londoner, second English, third Pakistani
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>>70923508
religion indentify > national > race > regional
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only national identity: we don't have the history for regional identities to emerge

EXCEPT you get (usually wogs) using their parents' heritage as their identify. Wog descendants love talking about how Italian/Greek/Croatian they are. It's so cringeworthy but at least we don't have the MUH IRISH HERITAGE fucks that the US gets, for some reason
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>>70923508
Regional identity in this case, but the "true" national identity is contained in the region(s) I like.
The rest are, if not outright (unintegrated) foreign squatters, living culturally foreign ways of life.

The truly Irish regions are the small, "poor" regions in the West and South, with some of the Norman culture of the smaller, "poorer" mid-Eastern towns being applicable.
Dublin is a sinkhole megacity and most of the east is either part of that, or remains affected by the land structure the English imposed.
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>>70941841
>at least we don't have the MUH IRISH HERITAGE fucks that the US gets
Only a generation away. Australia's the top emigration destination for people here. Sorry our government's too shit to keep our people here.
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>>70940817
t.Gitano moro vago Andaluz
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>>70923508
regional>country

About Europe, I don't even feel european.
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Istrian first,
Slovenian/Italian second
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>>70923508
English first, Yorkshireman second
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>>70923508
National first, then regional
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>>70923508
Roman>Italian>Latium

Latium has always been the "Roman region", pretty much like the Île-de-France for Paris, so it doesn't really makes sense to feel "from Latium"
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>>70943594
Come home istrian man

Croat first, then slavonian
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>>70923508
personal identity
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Cracovian first
Pole second
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