Why does everyone here hate Ukraine? They have so much potential.

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>>70774095
Ukraine's best and only creation.

>>70774095
t.Mykola Parasiuk

>>70774095
>45 million white people, it's one of the largest homogenous countries in Europe.
1. Being white doesn't equal sucess, there is plenty of proof for that.
2. Most shitholes are homogenous countries, because no one wants to live there. (NK, Ukraine, etc etc)

>>70774095
>They have so much potential. 45 million white people
yet poorer than nigeria
maybe race isnt inherently tied to value?

Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics. Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.

>gas is at $84/bbl

I wish, I wouldn't be laid off if that was the case.

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>>70774161
Ukraine is the true Slavic kingdom that protects Europe from the Mongol hordes.

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>>70774206
Indeed

>>70774129
I have no Ukrainian ancestry. In fact, I have Polish ancestry so if anything I should hate Ukraine. But I'm too intelligent for that.

>>70774346
I'm pretty sure those guys are homo, but that does not diminish the struggle of the crazy ukies against russian oppression. Russki are fucking their brothers.

>>70774795
>I'm pretty sure those guys are homo

Based on what?

Ukraine is kind of sad. It's basically Russia without the resources and delusions of grandeur. They should've never given up nukes.

>>70774095
>45 million white
Let me stop you right there, Juan.

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I like Ukraine

>>70774095
its far less then 45 today

they afraid to update statistics

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>>70774095

>>70778505
What does it say in English?

>>70774126
>>70774206

Azov batalion... nothing surprises me anymore. You white nationalist cucks will literally follow anything YAWN

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>>70778528
this is untranslatable inscription
Seriously

>>70774156
>Nigeria GDP: 90% Email Scams

Kek

>>70774095
>homogenous
lol no

>>70774095
>homogenous
more multicultural than any western european country

>>70778544
This b8 isn't even finely crafted, cmon

>>70774095
>45 million white people
and, how is that relevant at all? It's a shithole, that's it. I don't hate it but I don't care for it either. It's a backwards, poorly developed shithole inclined to conflict.

>>70778623
>>70778592
Haha jealous gypsies.

>>70774095
Ukrainians are subhumans

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>>70774095
>45 million white people

less than 40 million actually, at least 20% of whom have significant amounts of turk blood judging by their phenotype

Spiritually they are a disaster just like Macedonia - a fake nation created by jews and westerners from an artificially elevated regional identity, claiming the history of the larger nation that they deny being part of.

They are completely retarded with a penchant of killing white people - the poles in WW2, the innocent people being shelled in Donbass, etc.

Fuck Urine.

>>70774095
>ukraine

no such country

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>>70774095
>45 million people
I have bad news for you, Pedro.

>>70774095
>Ukraine

It does literally nothing significant. Tell me one thing Ukraine has done except be in Russia's way.

Kremlinshills thread

>>70778859
>Hungarians
>Russians
>Tatars
>Romanians
>Poles
Not an argument. Ukraine is a Frankenstein of a country

>>70779021

fuck off kike

>>70779013
The guy who engineering Russia's rockets was Ukrainians.

>sucking Russia's cock
Kill yourself.

>>70779037
You could say England was a Frankenstein of a country made up of Celtics, Angles, Jutes, the French, etc etc. Yet they were considered homogeneous before mass immigration from the third world started.

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>>70778910
>innocent people in Donbass

>>70779051

>The guy who engineering Russia's rockets was Ukrainians.

You seem to be Ukrainian, too. Either that or a nigger.

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>yveryone who does not praise Putin is hohols

>>70779013
Russians were winning the space race as long as they had the ukrainian in charge.

>>70779086
>You seem to be Ukrainian
The US doesn't even have a million Ukrainians. Yet everyone who supports Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression seems to be accused of being Ukrainian. Doesn't quite add up since Ukrainians are .27% of our population.

>>70779051
>>70779140

>we wuz rocket scientists

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>>70779075

good job, zogbot

>>70779144

>Russian aggression

nice meme

>>70774095
I dont hate the people of Ukraine, but I think that the Ukraine government is just a bunch of oligarchs who couldn't care less about their people
So in my eyes, the Ukraine is a non-entity

>>70779156
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev
Face it, Russia wouldn't be able to wave their dick in the air about "winning" the space race without a Ukrainian.

>>70779164
>10 images DAT make u say fuck havin laws and shit

Go away putinbot

>>70779071
There are several centuries between those two events, to the point today's English culture has a bit of all of those you listed. Ukraine literally means Borderlands, the were Poland and Lithuania's bitch, then Russia's bitch (they still are, but I mean as a de facto owning the territory) until very recently.

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>government is just a bunch of oligarchs who couldn't care less about their people
In all post-Soviet states

>>70779185

Yeah, the Urine is really known for laws and shit.

Why are you in Canada and not fighting the "Russian aggression" in Donbass? Fucking worm.

>>70779181

He was Russian you retarded cunt.

>>70778910
>at least 20% of whom have significant amounts of turk blood judging by their phenotype

Well you'd know what to look for

>>70779217
>He was Russian you retarded cunt.
>Korolev was born in Zhytomyr, the capital of Volhynian Governorate of the Russian Empire) now recognized as part of Ukraine.

>>70779196
And? Kurdistan doesn't have any sovereign territory, yet their ethnicity is regarded as legitimate. Until the end of WW2, European borders were not drawn along ethnic lines.

>>70779225

sure, the percentage of Bulgarians who are not exactly white is even higher, maybe around 40%.

5 centuries of ottoman rape have left a "legacy"

Still doesn't change my point about Urine, jewish shill.

>>70779181

>space race without a ukrainian

Laika was a dog, not a pig.

>>70779203
but at least Putin cares about geopolitics.
Meanwhile the leaders of Ukraine always were Russian or American puppets

>>70779217
>>70779258
>using the Jew meme while literally shilling for Russia, the 2nd Jewish homeland

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>>70779258
>jewish shill
Pretty sure ACTUAL Russian nationalists hate Putin because they think he's the Jewish shill, letting in so many illegals from Muslim countries and such.

>>70779250

>someone born in modern day Ukraine makes him Ukrainian

OK I can tell you are an American, what a fucking retard. You literally have no concept of what an actual nation is.

>>70779156
>Poland talking shit about rocket scientists

>>70779289
His mother is Ukrainian. His father was Belorussian. He was not Russian.

>>70779284
Everyone hates Putin who isn't brainwashed by le savior of white race meme

>>70779284

Yes, and the biggest criticism they have of Putin is that he has not invaded and ended that shithole called Ukraine yet.

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>>70779275
For grandparents with pension 150-200 $ geopolitics in the first place!

>>70779307
>american education

Ukraine was never meant to self govern.

>>70779328
and Ukraine is doing any better?

>>70779335
>>70779289
so far neither of you have been able to refute the burgers post.

>>70779325
>what am I reading.png

>>70779315
>le savior of white race meme

No, we all know that Obama, Merke, Shulz, Soros and Kolomoisky are the true saviors of the white race.

>>70779325
You seem brainwashed by the Jews my friend, Russia is a multicultural country full of Muslims and Asians and a bunch of smaller special snowflake ethnicities, and you want them to take control of a homogeneous white country? Why do you hate white people?

>>70779388

Ukraine is not a country and it is not homogenous.

Of course Russia should control the lands populated by Russians, instead of the EU/NATO/ZOG

>>70779382
>Ukraine trying to fight to setup a nationalist regime

>"WTF WE MUST LE STOP THEM"

AND you have the AUDACITY to use Jew memes. Have you no shame you fucking kike cuck?

>>70774161
t. Ivan

>>70779377
bullshit is not to refute, bullshit is to call

>>70779377

there is nothing to refute, the burger thinks that being born in modern day Ukraine or Belarus makes someone Ukrainian or Belarussian, it's so obvious that even a dingo should understand it.

>>70779376
It would be if it was not target of Russian attacks and diversions, and if EU could force its laws and market regulations onto it alongside with development funds.

Putin is scared of this because his "success" would be revealed as a failure.

>>70779417

>>Ukraine trying to fight to setup a nationalist regime

Yea, nice "nationalist regime" you fucking retard

It's literally a jewish government that is stealing everything that the Russians left you that has not yet been stolen.

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>>70779376
Just drink cologne, Kremlin prostitute

>>70779471

back to /пopaшa/, liberal shit

>>70779460
This is too much for me

You are literally shilling for Jews while accusing others of Jewry. I'd this a new high-level Kremlin technique?

>>70779471
So why did you leave the ukraine for Russia if your country is so great?

>>70779416
>Ukraine is not a country and it is not homogenous.
It is a country and it is more homogeneous than your shithole.

>>70779488

Your president is a jew and a huge amount of ministers are also literal jews.

It's not a coincidence that you are writing jews with capital J, either.

Just stop, everyone sees what you are.

>>70779456
The EU voted against a trade agreement with Ukraine, so I dont know how much we really care for the faith of Ukraine people.

>>70779504

>America in charge of who's an actual country
>America in charge of who is homogenous

lol, Mr. 56%

>>70779436
>>70779439
His mother was ukraininan and his father fucked off and away.
All Russia did was put him in gulag and then pull him out of it because they desperately needed him.

>>70779520
>phones do not correct the chosen ones names as a proper noun

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>>70778910
>>70779225
>>70779258
>Tfw escaped the enrichment of the turk by a hairwidth

>>70779482
>>70779503
Kremlin prostitute suck penis gay Volodin

>>70779546

>using the autocorrect jew

>>70779551
Was Pavelic /our guy/?

>>70774095
well maybe it's because they waste all that potential
they're like poland only more shit
way more

>>70779167
same goes for russia for instance

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>>70779543
Enjoy getting blown up by your Turkish population while the US bans all refugees while we figure out how to keep the Muslims out for good :)

>>70779579
You can say many bad things about Putin, but you cant really claim that he is a puppet

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Russia differs from the Ukraine only in the presence of huge reserves of resources. This is a different sort shithole.

>>70779596

Our turkish population is fully under control, thank you for your concern.

>>70779579
russia has only one leader and he's autocrat, not olygarkh
very different

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>>70779604
:)

>>70779607
>defending Mudshits
As expected from a Putin shill.

>>70779622
>he doesnt kill every jew on sight
>that means he is a jewish puppet

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>>70779644

:))

>>70779535
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–European_Union_Association_Agreement

Subsequent problems are mainly related to the Russian sponsored "civil" war, and the problems that originate in Ukrainian politics with tradition of corruption and oligarchy are also reinforced by it because anticorruption processes are disruptive and hard to carry out when a country is under attack.

>>70779606
also in size and population
also in that it's a country
we're also have corrupt polititians that even sometimes try to save some of the cool industry and not just destroy it

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>defending Mudshits

>>70779660
ukraine right now literally has the same problems as 20 years ago
as russia had 20 years ago

no it's not about the war

140,000 Muslims celebrate Eid al-Adha in Moscow

What I dislike about the ukraine is their victim complex. They are litterally the only post soviet country that are poorer than 1989 even though the was the most developed region.

>>70779520
This guy is sad

>>70779660
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–European_Union_Association_Agreement
yes, the treaty that was vetoed by Netherlands

>
Subsequent problems are mainly related to the Russian sponsored "civil" war, and the problems that originate in Ukrainian politics with tradition of corruption and oligarchy are also reinforced by it because anticorruption processes are disruptive and hard to carry out when a country is under attack.
Then why doesn't Ukraine honor its part of Minsk II agreement? Wouldn't it be the best way to achieve peace so they can concentrate on fighting corruption?

>>70779700

Which is about 1% of Moscow's population...

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>>70774095
Literally Africa tier in every aspect except they're not black.

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>>70779656
>>70779622
=D

>>70779748
fuck you

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>>70779700
Without doping petrodollars Russia was the 90's. Now oil is cheap again, and rolled back Russia in third world shithole.

>>70779751
What is this an image of

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>>70779751
=D

>>70779717

this, constant whining and sucking EU dick for money.

at the same tome trying to drag europe in their CIA sponsored war.

fuck them

>>70779770

a nobody

>>70778910
That's ironic coming from you

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>>70779746
>Moscow is home to approximately 2 million Muslims

>>70779770
Leader of opposition (jewish) sleeping on kremlin bridge

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>Eid al-Adha gathered near the Cathedral Mosque of St. Petersburg 10 thousand Muslims

>>70779804
we're not really proud of that bro

>>70779543
>>70779416
>>70779325
>>70779258
>>70778910
+15

This is the most retarded and aggressive kremlin paid troll I've seen in a while

>>70779804
What are you trying to show exactly

>>70779834
>only 15
Give him some more come on

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fuck ukraine and fuck their american sponsors

>>70779836
Just showing thats its not about magic jews. Some are friends with putin other gets destroyed

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>bastion of the white race

>>70779834

you are aggressively retarded if you really think that there isn't a significant amount of people on Russia's side from all over the world

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>>70779852
>tfw John McCain is my senator

>>70779852
agreed
people of Ukraine will only prosper if Russia and EU make peace and support Ukraine together, while keeping the Americans out

>white people

Lmfao, Americans are so cringeworthy. "White" is a stupid identity killing term only used by confused American mongrels with no nationality. Us Europeans hate other Europeans, even though we share skin color.

>>70779730
>yes, the treaty that was vetoed by Netherlands
in a non-binding referendum, didn't netherland government already ratify it? And do you think the referendum would turn out that way without wilders shilling for it and dutchmen being scared of Russia? I don't think it was really about Ukraine, more like protest vote against government.

>Then why doesn't Ukraine honor its part of Minsk II agreement? Wouldn't it be the best way to achieve peace so they can concentrate on fighting corruption?
Well I'm not going to claim I know precise structure of the various forces deployed in that region but as I understand it it's not easy to honor your part of the agreement when the other party is shelling you, and then there's units the government doesn't have direct control over but allows them to exist since they're too valuable militarily. And then you'll have the corrupt officials that follow interest of their wallet, and people paid specifically to fuck shit up, and people that will see Russian diversion behind every shadow etc.

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EVERYONE STOP

ITS ROLLING TIME

>>70774095
Ukrain is literally the worst cunt in Europe, Russia is better than them in many ways, hell even Moldova is better than Ukrain in a couple of areas

> can make spacecraft, aircraft, aircraft carriers
> want to be a generic EE western muffin-eating homosexual hipster bitch of a country
what's not to hate, exactly?

>>70779917
>in a non-binding referendum, didn't netherland government already ratify it?
no

>And do you think the referendum would turn out that way without wilders shilling for it and dutchmen being scared of Russia?
maybe. but the point is, European people dont care much about Ukraines. They have no trouble abadonning Ukrainians to their struggle, only to make a point in domestic politics.

>and then there's units the government doesn't have direct control over but allows them to exist since they're too valuable militarily
>And then you'll have the corrupt officials that follow interest of their wallet, and people paid specifically to fuck shit up, and people that will see Russian diversion behind every shadow etc
Seems to me like the problem is corruption and governments lack of power in their own territory, rather than the rebellious provinces.

>>70779781
>jew in cage

>>70780086
Ukraines and Russians are literally the same people

>>70779987
>maybe. but the point is, European people dont care much about Ukraines. They have no trouble abadonning Ukrainians to their struggle, only to make a point in domestic politics.
This is sad and true.

>Seems to me like the problem is corruption and governments lack of power in their own territory, rather than the rebellious provinces.
Those problems are connected, and "rebellious" provinces would never happen without girkin shenanigans.
I claim nonetheless that if Ukraine was forced to adopt EU directives, between sugar of development funds and whip of ECJ sanctions, it would gradually cultivate itself and the oligarchs would be weakened in scope of their power (although of course they would keep large amount of influence).

>>70779717
>>70779790
how about you two fucktards stop and consider that Russia is intentionally keeping Ukraine poor and weak for geostrategic reasons.

They have a huge population od russians in Ukraine and they can fuck with their institutions everywitch way, they can stop investments, promote crime, use KGB assets ant tactics to do whatever they fucking want, and that's all without propaganda which they have mastered.

grow up

>>70774095
No one hates Ukrainian people, just their shitty government that steals a fuck ton from them.
t. Ivan with ukie friends and teachers

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>>70774095

Propaganda promised residents of the Crimea incomes in Moscow. Holols very golddiggers, easy to believe in this promise. Then it turned out that the Ukrainian income is (except for military pensioners and security forces). Putin's regime is based on a total lie.

>>70780109
Why would you care about ukraine?

>>70780109
Yes, but it would imply a huge investment from the EU.
And to me, it seems like we have a lot of other problems right now, I simply dont see the political will in EU to improve Ukraine.

>>70780102
They why do they have different ethnic identities and hate each other?

>>70780086
that's not a russian way to say it
we all mostly know our ancestry, "white" is american concept.

we have "black-assed" concept, for example Tsarnayev brothers are considered "white" in the US, but chernozhopiy here. in russia, any tatar or yakut would be considered "better" here by neo-nazis than chernozhopy gnidas.

>>70780187
So what should I make the text say?

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>>70774095

>>70780176
it's not ethnic, it's cultural. and "hate" even ow is a strong word. say take caucasus. every given pair of Caucasus nationalities, say chechen and dagestani, hate each other way more.

>>70780176
sadly, people who are culturally and ethnically close often hate each other

>>70780205
text can stay.

but since Ukraine is now ruled by part jews part nazis, probably a jewish-looking person with an azov symbol and their khazar three-pronged logo should be the one at the center of the composition. the guy on the right can be the asian

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>>70780206

>>70779565
You better study english, loser.

>>70780145
Because they're people?
Because they expressed desire to improve their lot and join up?


>>70780163
That's also true. Association negotiations and process was going on before migration crisis.
Also it's not like EU would just blob it in, the applicant country has to adopt some compliant laws even during association process. It's not a one-sided commitment.

But you're right, I don't think it's priority for the politicians and the people will naturally care more for what they see as threat to their own country before others.

Russia could be much more rich but Half of the subsidies that the Kremlin disburses each year goes to just 10 of those regions: Dagestan, Chechnya, Yakutia, Kamchatka, Crimea, Altai, Tuva, Buryatia, Stavropol and Bashkortostan.

They choose to be an imperial power instead.......

>>70774095
not fitting in 4chan basement dwellers political views

It's a normal cuckold reaction I'm assume. You may be pro - Republican and far - right, but when you see something really BIG, you just can't stop thinking about. You know they would threat you like a whore, and destroy in every second, but look at that SIZE.
C'mon, Ukraine? Right? Democratic?
N-no, I don't want disappoint my master.

Russean klay
>>>x
worse than africa haha

>>70780356
Wut?

Can someone translate what this man is trying to say?

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>>70780336
>Because they expressed desire to improve their lot and join up?

Intentions mean nothing when you are retarded.

>>70780351
russia can't be much more rich because not enough trade goes through russia and we have too much threats bordering us the be as peaceful as small european countries

subsidies are not all that big compared to having to border 10 more poor and unstable republics if they are left on their own

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>>70774206
yeah

>>70780384
>8
I think he's saying that right wingers love to see the strong not be held back by the weak. So even if supporting Ukraine would be more consistent with their values they profess, they support Russia because they are the strong, and Ukraine is weak.

>>70780384
he says people resent ukraine's astounding success at building a prosperous democrac

>>70780336
>Because they expressed desire to improve their lot and join up?

How is wanting free eu monies "expressed disire to imrpove" they have done nothing to improve their situation besides screaming at russia

They have the mindset of an african

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>>70774206

Heil Hitler!

https://twitter.com/lifenews_ru/status/827219935092994049

>>70780336
Personally, I dont really see the point of a trety with Ukraine if it alienates Russia.
We have much more trade going on with Russia and we are kinda energy dependant on them

>>70780439
this is how whole eastern europe gets their monies in 00s btw

did they all africans?

>>70780499
yes
they're really no better except they're on welfare

>>70774095
>Why does everyone here hate Ukraine?
Russian trolls and Putin lovers.

>>70780439
If it was just about money, they could have stayed with Russia who would give them favourable prices for gas and freedom and nigh limitless power to oligarchs loyal to the regime.

Common ukrainians, at the prowestern ones, don't want free money, but rather they want to "be the west", to adopt the system that allowed rest of europe to live on higher standards than the east.
The rich ukrainians probably just want legal protection from each other, and freedom to do business in rest of Europe.

I like the Ukies though

>>70779730
>yes, the treaty that was vetoed by Netherlands
no such thing, we just negotiated some changes that other countries have yet to accept.

>>70780499
>this is how whole eastern europe gets their monies in 00s btw

No it was not but your mindset is hillariously and illustrate why your "country" is now poorer than most african countries

>>70780559
So we back from 150 euro to pre war 300

What a success!

>>70780532

Only turks and homosexuals hate Russia here.

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>>70780559
common ukrainians didn't come into the equation
don't you remember the leaked call and the unconsittutional change of power when they couldn't even get enough votes to legally impeach Yanukovich?

i mean, when middling US officials literally desided who'd run a country during a phone call

that's not west, that's banana republic-tier

>>70780499
hmm I wouldn't speak like this in front of a Pole lad.
You'd find how silly that is if you looked at the numbers.

I'm fascinated by the pro-Russian people/posters in my country. 70 years of Russian propaganda sure fucked up their brains.

>muh defenders of Slavs and Orthodoxy! Attacking Ukraine? Nah, they're fascists and also made up country! Mr Putin is a real stronk leader and defender of the white race!

>>70780627
and bulgarianSS

>>70780559
See this>>70780499
Typical ukrainian mindset. He believes that the onky reason you improved is free EU money and nothing to do with hard work painful reforms and not having a slaves mentality.

Ffs they have fared far worse than the worst shitholes of central asian stans

>>70780651

If you were actually Bulgarian, you would have been able to make the obvious connection between Macedonia and Ukraine.

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>>70780279
I think this is better.

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>>70780627
>Only turks and homosexuals hate Russia here.
But Putin and Erdogan are friends again, comrade.

>>70780659
>If you were actually Bulgarian, you would have been able to make the obvious connection between Macedonia and Ukraine.
Actually the Russ-cucks in Bulgaria are like the Macedonians - low IQ retards being brainwashed into some fantasy made up reality.

>>70780627
maybe thats the answer why with all these european money bulgaria looks much worse than ukraine?

>>70780633
members of parliament are not really common ukrainians, but any coup is messy.

At any rate, just because you want to be west doesn't mean you are it yet.

>>70780677

So? How is that a refutation of what I said?

Putin is looking for pragmatic relations with sovereign countries, which Bulgaria is not. He tried to give us South Stream first but we betrayed the Russians and our own interests yet again.

This does not change the fact that the "euroatlantic values" crowd repeats all the bullshit that Mestan is saying, and his party are the literal agents of islamification, gypsyfication and Erdogan here, and they are very much anti-Russia like the pomak cuck Plevneliev who is adored by Mestan and the rest.

We should make a partition of Ukraine, Romania takes Bessarabia, Poland takes [s]dick in mounth[/s] Lwów, Slovakia takes Użgorod and that empty part will be a testing polygon for nuclear weapons.

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>>70780713
The poorest country in the EU has the biggest amount of Russian cucks. Coincidence?

>>70780656
Yes, you are right. The change was not easy for us either. We thought we'd be germany tier in a few years.

>>70780761
Would you really want an angry and resentful Ukraine minority in your country?

>>70780764

It's not. Because we are pro-Russian, we are the least useful idiots for the EU which is why we get much less money than Poland and the baltics.

So our genocide is set to the fastest speed.

>>70780760
>He tried to give us South Stream first but we betrayed the Russians and our own interests yet again.
lol you really are brainwashed, aren't you?

South Stream is literally giving several billions of our money to Russia and getting them back in 40-50 years (eventually). Such a nice deal by the good Mr Putin. What a brotherly nation.

>>70780780

Yes - dead.

>>70780675
well at least you could make ukrainian wear their traditional haircut and clothing, and the asian russian should wear a spacesuit, since Ukraine is all about tradition and asian Russia and China are the only countries in the world with human spaceflight technology

would be, you know, an image with a deeper meaning

>>70780780
Everyone who doesn't want to live in mighty Polen will be deported back to nuclear polygon.

>>70780800

Yes, being a transit country is so bad, this is why even the gerberasts were butthurt and betrayed when the tube went around us.

Brainwashed does not even begin to describe you.

>>70780761
>[s]dick in mounth[/s]
Back to sosach vanya, ty obosralsya

>>70780822
please, no more polish death camps

>>70780822
You know how it's ends?

>>70780844
Niet, ty.

>>70780839
so you would ruin thousands, even millions of lives, just to get some empty clay?

>>70780760
>He tried to give us South Stream first but we betrayed the Russians
>betrayed the Russians
Your slave mentality is showing. We don't owe the Russian anything, you fuck cuck.

>>70780873

Can't ruin what's worthless.

>>70780873
No, they won't protest. I'm an ukrainian myself so I know that. They'll get better lives in Poland, Romania and Slovakia and will be grateful for that, their children will assimilate.

>>70780877

Yes we do, you fucking turk.

>>70780877
>you fuck cuck

>licks Merkel's ass
>cancels South Stream while Germany builds North Stream 2 for themselves
>calls others cucks

Умpи.

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>>70780918
>we owe Russia money for eternity
Go jump from a building, you worthless slave.

>>70780957
>lets give some billions to Russia and in exchange we'll get nothing, that will show our independence and also gratitude to glorious mother Russia
The mind of the pro-Russian cuck is fascinating.

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>>70774161
>Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics. Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.

>>70780978

No, we owe them basic respect and friendship. We owe them not being butthurt western cucks like the poles and the balts, and bot being even bigger hawks than them like the gay chickenhawk Plevneliev.

We owe them a willingness to engage with them in projects that are very beneficial for us too, instead of being cucks for the fucking West, from where we have only seen shit.

>>70780914
we tried the same with poles, but they were ungrateful and didnt want to integrate

>>70781033
That's because you are boring and noone likes you, slavs will easily integrate into slav country.

>>70781018
>We owe them a willingness to engage with them in projects that are very beneficial for us too
Their projects are NOT beneficial to us, you stupid idiot. That's the whole point. We're a poor fucking country and we're giving billions to Russia and when someone points that out you useful idiots start parroting how he's a Turk, gay, fascist or ungrateful to mother Russia.

>>70779416
mm yes suck that russian dick bitch

>>70781099

400 million dollars per year in transit fees and a better gas price is not beneficial to us according to this economic genius.

>>70781120

You westerners are really obsessed with sucking dick. Go watch some gay porn and calm yourself.

How hard is getting bulgarian citizenship for eastern ukrainian?

>>70781141
>400 million dollars per year in transit fees and a better gas price
[citation needed]

>>70779376

maybe without the russian military incursion they would?

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>>70774095
Fuck those cuckholes and their defenders.

i used to like ukraine but i've heard they are almost neo-nazis that who hates non white people

>>70781181
No, not really. New government is corrupt as fuck if you'd give us some sort of colonial administration we'll definitely get better. But you don't want to do that.

>>70781099
>Get offered transit fees to whole of balkan and maybe even italy.....
German lead EU blocks it

>6 months later
Germany agrees to north stream 2

You guys have been played you stupid east monkey

>>70779834

he's bulgarian, that should qualify as a mental disorder by itself

>>70778566
>Ukraine GDP : 90% prostitutes money
Kek

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>>70781199

>>70781200
can't disagree - russians specialists in propaganda

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>>70781266

>>70774095
>Ukraine

No such thing

>>70781200
That's true about western ukrainians, but in the south we used to live with jews, armenians, russians, romanians, tatars and we are getting well along them, they all are good people and I'd prefer million of armenians to thousand of w*stern ukrainian.

>>70781221
>be a small poor as shit country
>spend several billion Euros on some pipes
>start getting profits in half a century maybe
Yeah, what a lost.

>>70781289
There was a video which had some Russian song and all of these Ukrainian casualties.

Do you have this?

>>70781364
https://youtu.be/0GKDU_4JVS0
?

>>70781354
Well i dont care. Denmark is going to get cheap gas, transit fees (very small) and off shore work jobs from the north stream 2. So i would like to thank bulgaria for vetoing the south stream pipeline.

I don't hate it.

>>70781419
No, this isn't it.

It had some folk song on it.

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>>70781364
Nah, I don't have any of videos with DLPR/Ukraine fights :c
>>70781341
Man I thought you love cuckholes bc your govt supported them in Maidan with ameritards and some of EUSSR junkies and continue their support now even their streets are named as "muh Bandera" st/prospekt and their marches to praise a dead and bald faggot on 1 jan etc.

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>>70781467
Southern Ukraine didn't support a coup. And we didn't support Russia as well.

>>70781429
>Well i dont care.
I don't care about Denmark as well. I care that my country (for now) is not losing billion of Euros in a retarded deal.

https://youtu.be/QXfAkJ5KNI8
Post Donietskian rap.

>>70779748
kys

>>70774095
We need to save them from exploitative politicians, we must take in all of Ukraine in the US.

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>>70781590
>African American culture is so powerful that even Russians LARPing as communists fighting against the west are into rap

>>70781663
Lwów is Polish, Uzhgorod is Slovakian, Bessarabia is Romanian. The rest of us you can take as a replacement for black belt.

>>70781590
separatist a rap in tracklist - sign of braindamaged bydlo

t. knower

>>70781682
>the niggers of Europe are imitating the culture of the niggers of America
Nothing weird, actually.

Thought we had a war with ukraine and it died already since the news about it disappeared.

You made me sad OP

>>70781688
I am no ukrainian government supporter, not denying that. Ukraine should give up territories occupied by Soviets. Only after that it would have a right on development as a soverign country.
https://youtu.be/Ak69a9Y74bg

Ukraine is cordon sanitaire to put distance between European countries and Russia, although international community will never admit to it. In most of regard, it's manufactured state that is simply bad half-breed of Russian and Polish culture with no actual history or identity of their own.

>>70781120
he's obviously russian too

>>70779013

And why does it have to do anything significant to be a country?

Before Russia and the west started meddling, Ukraine was a developing sovereign peaceful country, after decades of Soviet rule I might add.

I think it's a total fucking tragedy what has happened to Ukraine. I have nothing but sympathy for them. Imagine you country being in their situation right now.

>>70781200
I know one korean from here who went to russia and was killed by skinheads there kek. Both russians and ukies dislike chinks and hate kebabs.

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>>70781836
>Before Russia and the west started meddling, Ukraine was a developing sovereign peaceful country, after decades of Soviet rule I might add.

>>70781836
That's a payback for what we did during WW2. Russia is weak and cannot outlast a confrontation with the West, Schultz will defeat them after german elections.

>>70781590
stop this disgrace please.

>>70781943
Your no connoisseur. But okay.

>>70781834
>he's obviously russian too
Not necessary. We have a lot of Russian cuck retards here. 45 years of totalitarian pro-Russian anti-Western propaganda and the biggest stations and newspapers are often repeating the Russian propaganda. It's disgusting.

>>70781970
Schultz will change that too.

>>70781998
>euro socialist who pretends the eastern european ex-commie parties are a-ok
yeah
nah

>>70782063
He'll make you a part of a Holy European Republic, you won't have any ex-commie party.

>>70781176
Would the Kraut be building a second North Stream if it wasn't beneficial?

It doesn't matter anyway, Turkey has South stream now.

>>70778970
This picture is insane, it's some ww2 tier depopulation.

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>Ukrainians
>White

>>70782102
No, it's just an emigration and demographic pit that Soviets created. Nothing bad.

>>70781970
How embarrassing. Over here and Poland, there's no gommies left except nostalgic old people. Even then, they're all nationalist who don't like Russia.

It must be because Bulgaria is Orthodox that they think Russia is brother country or something. That's only thing I can think of.

>>70782107
Fuck you Romania, I thought we were friends.

>>70782127
>It must be because Bulgaria is Orthodox that they think Russia is brother country or something. That's only thing I can think of.
I already said why, it's propaganda for decades. It's brainwashing. I consider it a miracle we're even part of the EU and NATO now, seeing as how the country is full of these people.

>>70782092
>Would the Kraut be building a second North Stream if it wasn't beneficial?
South Stream is not North Stream.
>It doesn't matter anyway, Turkey has South stream now.
Do they tho? It's not getting build, there are not documents, it's just there usual Russian "Look, we have Turkey as ally now" propaganda.

>>70782225
We had as much of Russian propaganda here and Poland and Baltic states for decades but nobody took the b8. IDK what's the problem in Bulgaria.

>>70782154
Are you ukrainian? If so, what gives you the impression that we "were friends"? Ever since the creation of the state of Ukraine all your governments did was try to shit on us and take more of our territory. If it wasn't for Russia, Ukraine would be the russia of eastern europe.

Anyways, I get impression OP gets his entire knowledge of geopolitics from /pol/ memes.

>>70782102
The funny thing is that graph outdated. Their population should be down to 40 million. And considering statistically their numbers in Poland is not reflected completely. Poland is more populated than Ukraine, despite to losing millions of people after entering EU.

>>70782423
I haven't made that many comments in this thread desu.

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>>70782349
>IDK what's the problem in Bulgaria.
Isn't your president a Russian cuck as well.

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Pretty spooky thread you have here guys. You should consider moving it to >>>/x/

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>>70781922
>""""""""""""""""bait"""""""""""""""""""

You can't dismiss my argument.

Since becoming it's own country again, Ukraine has been a pawn between Emperor Putin's Russia & the EU/ US.

>>70782647
>>>/x/18595148
There, are you happy now?

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>>70781930
>That's a payback for what we did during WW2

Did what?

>Russia is weak and cannot outlast a confrontation with the West, Schultz will defeat them after german elections.

What?

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>>70782766
kek

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>>70781510
Smart boy~

>>70782467
Yes he is.

The people like him because he is smug and uses profanities in daily speech.

>>70779942
roll
couldn't be worse tho

>>70782848
Points is you still have enough pro-Russian idiots who would elect a guy like him.
Obviously less than Bulgaria, but still.

>>70779942
Roll
Boom nothing changed

>>70782926
Not that other guy but you have a point. We do have some ruscucks here, so saying that nobody takes bait is too optimistic.

Also Zeman himself used to be a relatively intelligent statesman until he got in too deep with wrong people. He ended up indebted to people connected to russian oil industry and I wouldn't be surprised if his daughter was de facto held hostage.

In truth I feel sorry for the man.

>>70780400
you forgot about "klimat nie tot"

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>>70780675
Reality

>>70782787
>Did what?
Genocides and occupation of Eastern Europe.
>What?
W8.

Ukraine? You mean nova Russia

>>70783140
Thanks.

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As always people just projecting things and showing they low IQ.

>>70783169

Can you provide a wiki link? I can't find anything. All I can find is the Holodomor famine from Stalin's era. What is this Genocide the country of the Ukraine is responsible for, or are you referring to the Soviet invasion of Eastern Europe?

>>70774095
Ukraine? No such thing

>>70783455
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact

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well there's pic related but since ukrainians were part of the russian culture sphere for so long they're an odd bunch too

>>70783455
> Polish partisans attacked the OUN, assassinated prominent Ukrainian commanders, and carried out operations against Ukrainian villages.[95] According to Grzegorz Motyka, the Polish actions resulted in 10,000-11,000 to 15,000 Ukrainian deaths in 1943-47, including 8,000-10,000 in the territory of present-day Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armia_Krajowa#Relations_with_Ukrainians

>>70783559
>>70783766
I think we can agree that it was a ugly conflict and both sides commited war crimes

>>70783819
umm excuse me but it is illegal to disparage russian WW2 troops by claiming they did anything wrong during the war
delete your post immediately

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>>70774095
>They have so much potential. 45 million white people,

>>70783819
Yes and what poland do now is digging out the bones and trying to make a profit on that tragedy, win some points. Same with Katyn and Smolensk airplane crash

>>70783954
I wish Poland had a more mature governement

>>70783954
I ain't polish.

>>70784006
same with ukraine

If whiteness alone meant civilization and progress, then how do you explain Chechens?

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>>70783766
>The peak of the massacres took place in July and August 1943. Most of the victims were women and children.[4] UPA's methods were particularly savage,[7][8] and resulted in 35,000–60,000 Polish deaths in Volhynia and 25,000–40,000 in Eastern Galicia, for the total of between 76,000 and 106,000 casualties.[1][3][9]

>Norman Davies in No Simple Victory gives a short, but shocking description of the massacres. He writes: Villages were torched. Roman Catholic priests were axed or crucified. Churches were burned with all their parishioners. Isolated farms were attacked by gangs carrying pitchforks and kitchen knives. Throats were cut. Pregnant women were bayoneted.

>Timothy Snyder describes the murders: "Ukrainian partisans burned homes, shot or forced back inside those who tried to flee, and used sickles and pitchforks to kill those they captured outside. In some cases, beheaded, crucified, dismembered, or disemboweled bodies were displayed

>A similar account has been presented by Niall Ferguson, who wrote: "Whole villages were wiped out, men beaten to death, women raped and mutilated, babies bayoneted."

And of course, then "Polish partisans attacked the OUN, assassinated prominent Ukrainian commanders". You cannot that UPA shits who did things like pic related should be left unpunished by Poles

>>70784197
>You cannot that
you cannot think that

>>70783559
>Massacre of Poles
Thanks. Made for very sober reading. Has Ukraine ever officially recognised this.

>Berlin Wall
What's that got to do with Ukraine?

>Ribbentrop Pact
USSR

>Warsaw Pact
But Poland was a part of this.

>>70779568
Yes