The English language is beautiful, yet I always hear cucks bitching

>>70738498
*English native speakers seemingly have a worse understanding of English's rules than non-native speakers.

>>70738498
>thinking knowledge of highly arb orthography is a measure of language proficiency
>calling the subjective and objective cases respectively nominative and accusative
>not realising that AAVE may have lost some standard inflection but its tense system is significantly more complex

3/10

>>70738561
The nominative case identifies the subject and the accusative case identifies the object.

>>70738572
it's an easily misleading choice of terms because "accusative" has a much more specific meaning in hundreds of others languages

english uses a lot of abreviations (???). I'm not aware of any language that uses so many of them like "it's, I'm, you're, it's, that's", it's easy to make difficulties if you haven't learnt the language from scratch like non-natives have.

>>70738498
Everyone knows those things

>>70738626
Words like "its", "there" and "their" are not contractions though, so there is no excuse for native speakers not knowing how to use them properly.

>>70738626
You mean contractions?

I must disagree with you about your consistent rules, English pronunciation makes no sense and is set on stone due to different local practices and not common sense or logic.

>>70738626
German uses a lot of contractions too though. Which languages don't?

>>70738662
English's inconsistencies are forged by Romance loanwords.

>>70738561
Is is true that Dutch people think Afrikaans is an Ugly Language? A saffer friend told me that

>>70738656
yes
>>70738648
native speakers probably don't think about it as much
>>70738678
Only in some dialects but never written I think

>>70738712
>native speakers probably don't think about it as much
Native speakers learn grammar all the way from kindy to graduation.

>>70738712
>vors
>vom
>ins
etc.

seems common enough

>>70738708
I wouldn't know. I've only met a handful of Hollanders.

>>70738712
ans
am
im
zum
zur
beim

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I think english is extremely boring language.

>>70738762
t. markkusikkenniikennkikkenenn

>>70738762
Finnish is my first language btw. English was a godsend to me because it's so much smoother than Finnish is. Not that I had difficulty speaking my own language though, only English native speakers experience that.

>>70738738
I had an american tell me once that they never learned the tenses, he didn't know what simple past, present perfect etc. was

>oo
>two "O"
>pronounced as "U" for some reason
>expect for "blood"
>where it pronounced as "AH"
Sometimes English makes me cry.

>>70738804
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL AMERICAN ENGLISH BTFO

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>>70738789
It is tho. Lackluster and boring sound. As an musician i would never use it.

>>70738791
Smoother? Doubt it. English lacks vowel harmony which on itself would make it much smoother.

>>70738751
true but you can't write like this, in english I think writing "you're" or something like that is viable

>>70738804
He's right. I didn't know what any of that was until I learned German in high school

>>70738808
Can you not see the obvious rules in play there?
{twin-vowel}
{consonant}wo
{consonant}loo (like in flood)

>>70738835
I wouldn't say English that English lacks vowel harmony outright. For instance, you will never see front and back vowels side-by-side in English.

Fuck your 'th' sound.

>>70738879
It's easy

>>70738687
Most retarded sounding pronunciations are germanic words.

>>70738872
To clarify for the Russkiy, there are word 'body types' with modifiers.

>>70738678
We dont use it at all

>>70738879
Do you know how to place your tongue directly underneath your top incisors?

>>70738872
>brood
>pronounced [bro͞od]

>blood
>pronounced [bləd]

Why does L change the pronunciation of "oo", how does it make any sense.

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>>70738941
this. The language is extremely inconsistent with it's pronounciations. Crime against linquistics tbqh.

>>70738941
L just does. These modifiers and language body-types are really simple. I understand mispronouncing it the first time, but it's not hard to remember the modifiers.

>>70738992
If you have to memorize how to pronounce every word instead of just reading it, you know either your language or your writing system is fucked up. You may as well start to write with hieroglyphs.

>>70738941
it doesn't, don't listen to him
Just be glad that Chinese/Thai isn't the lingua franca

>>70738498
Way to generalise, lad. Most people I know are aware of those grammatical rules you listed. You've been reading too many posts by northern monkeys in their grotty council houses with little to no education. I'm pretty sure most natives in the UK know the correct way in each of those examples you mentioned, unless I just never notice it. My mum drummed the correct way into me for all of those when I was about 7, and I grew up in a family with an income below the national average.

>>70739016
Again, i have to agree with the russian.

English is inconsistent and pedantic both at the same time, that's why its such an awkward language.

>>70739016
>implying flood is more difficult to learn how to say than navodneniye

>>70738992
Talk about arbitrary.
Like I said, it's not rational. A letter is supposed to make a sound so that anyone that has this basic knowledge can pronounce any word with that letter, even if he doesn't know what it means.
I can pronounce every word of italian, spanish or french, even without knowing what I'm actually saying, because they all follow the same structural integrity.

English, French, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Japanese (and German in an special manner) are the most beautiful languages in the world, other languages need more time to refine themselves.

Also, there are retards all over the world who can't speak their own languages. Also not knowing the grammatical rules is something kinda COMMON for people who is not often exposed to another language or who don't read so often (Mexican people reads less than a book per year).

>>70739058
>"A letter is supposed to make a sound so that anyone that has this basic knowledge can pronounce any word with that letter"
>"I can pronounce every word of French"
>bitches about English
wot

German is not a wholly consistent language either, but I can pronounce every word of German, paragraphs even, even without knowing what I'm actually saying, because I wasn't dropped on my head so I know how to pick up on patterns and modifiers.

And nice use of "structural integrity".

>>70739136
But can a german pronounce every word of english?
That's the point.

>>70739157
I definetely can't pronounce squirrel

>>70739157
If they're like me then they will learn to identify patterns.
Moreover, Norwegian is an inconsistent language, but I picked up on the patterns immediately. After less than two months of learning Norwegian, I can speak it.

>>70739172
Why

>>70738498
Fuck off.

Just keep calm and READ this.

I have started to learn English when I was 7 years old.

I STILL CAN'T WATCH YOUR MOVIES

FUCK OFF

I dropped my french lessons after the first year

but it's still easier to understand what they are saying

so fugg off)))

also learn Chinese, it would be useful for you

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I met an ukrainian who couldn't pronounce Spanish words like "Flor" (Flower), "Gordo" (Fat), "Gorra" (Cap). The funny thing about this is that she was talking Spanish like an Anglo and Russian/Ukrainian pronounce R's almost the same way Spanish speakers do.

>>70739136
German is from your own language group. It's the same if I would say that Polish is pretty easy, because for us it's true.

>>70739196
Are you familiar with the poem The Chaos from Gerard Nolst Trenité from 1922?
If not google it. Can you really say all of those words follow a logical pattern and that analyzing it would lead you to assume the correct pronunciation of all of them?

>>70739254
not the all of us do it. but our language scientists are nazis and think that it's a kind of illness.

>>70739263
Finnish is my first language.
It's not even Indo-European.
>>70739267
"Can you really say all of those words follow a logical pattern and that analyzing it would lead you to assume the correct pronunciation of all of them?"
Poetry does not abide by proper grammar so your example is shit.

>>70739316
That's not... just fucking read it, will you?!

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>>70738992
>simple

>>70739333
I read it with no issue, but poetry requires an understanding of the language.

>>70739316
Do you realise that your children probably will not speak it

it's pretty bad, Finnish sounds awesome, you shouldn't lost it

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>Inglisy ist hart
This is how I perceive English before I read the spelling when I learnt it during primary school.

A retarded spelling system, perhaps?

>>70739361
that's the point, as your mother tongue you shouldn't really notice anything because it is what you're used to; but to anyone else this will definitely highlight the inconsistencies of the language.

>>70739361
But it's not being poetic, it's just a gramatical analysis in the form of a poem. It's criticizing English pronunciation's arbitrary sounds, and it's from 1922.

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English a is language very easy learn

Many book make easy yes

English good my can speaked

>>70739386
Oh I'll teach my kids Finnish and English.
>>70739418
English is not my mother tongue.
>>70739423
That's still a poem you fucking monkey.

>>70739439
It says something about the nature of English orthography and grammar that I understood your meaning perfectly but you sound like a rutard

>>70739447
You can't even use vocatives and you're advocating proper language learning?
Just fuck off already, ignorant cunt.

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>>70738762
Probably because you don't speak proper english. You speek that globbish that all foreigners learn that is a watered down version of english.
English has quite a lot of charm, and if you were reading actual books in english you'd notice it.
Most foreigners, even the swedes, speak english like a 12yo native, which is normal, but 12yo don't have the arrogance to say that english is a lack lustre, boring language like you do.

>>70739482
Yeah English is a stupid language m8. I'm Aussie so it's my native tongue, ignore my flag I'm just in Jakarta for work. People here talk like I did just then but I still know what they mean. Everything in Indonesian is spoken backwards compared to English, instead of "big house" they say "house big" in their language

>>70739506
Merci la based france

>>70739482
But I really did take that photo today of the DVD that says "English make easy" because I saw it and lolled

>>70739506
are they retarded or what? Swedish and Danish are very simple to English

Poles as bad in russian's pronunciation as another foreigniers, but they are VEEEERRRYYYY good at grammar

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>>70739506
I speak english perfectly lad. My preferences matter little in the matter is it boring or not. But as i said It is atleast in my mind truly boring language. It lacks depth and sounds retarded. Maybe it's the lingua franca status.

>>70739501
English doesn't have a vocative case...

>>70739567
Tы вceгдa мoжeшь вepнyтьcя к pyccкoмy, бpaтишкa

>>70739567
go read a book retard

>>70739586
What the fuck are you talking about. Of course it does. Sentences would make no sense without it.

>>70739055
Because we have word пoтoп ([potòp]) for that.

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>>70739552
Not saying that it is hard, just saying that people learn some functional english with very few vocabulary and call it a day. Languages have depth, and most foreigners only scrap the surface.
>>70739567
A 12yo native speak english functionally and "perfectly" like you. Doesn't change the fact that they have limited vocabulary.
Read some essay written by a 12yo in your language see if it compares with one written by an adult with a firmer grasp on Finnish.

>>70739621
What do you mean by Vocative case? English now only uses the nominative case; even for cases when vocative should be used in other languages.

>>70739656
English uses the accusative case as well, but only for pronouns.

>>70739656
"For example, in the sentence, "I don't know, John", John is a vocative expression that indicates the party being addressed—as opposed to the sentence, "I don't know John", where John is the direct object of the verb "know.""

>>70739656
read this classic essay which introduces the idea of English actually having cases to the Anglosphere

http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/~syntax-circle/syntax-group/spr08/fillmore.pdf

before Fillmore Anglos sincerely believed that case is something which happens to others and most still do

>>70738498
>In practice, at least 90% of the words in everyday English are Germanic words

Meanwhile, your text is plagued with french and latin words. Of course you don't have to use french words but only if you want to sound brutish and mentally challenged.

I don't think english is ugly or boring, it suits certain types of writings very well. Words like Ominous and omen are absent from many languages, for example. The word fuck is the most versatile word in existence and it's extremely hard to convey certain things without having it.
I just think it's absolutely silly that OP won't admit that english pronunciation doesn't follow a rule, it's just utterly chaotic.

>>70739232
What a loser. I've read Katawa Shoujo using google translate and watched movies and played videogames for, i dunno, a year, all is required is subtitles to help yourself, after a year or so you can switch it off untill you find a unique tech term.
And my english wasn't even for reading when I started with same experience you had.

> also learn Chinese
I can find a copypasta from this here board, which shows why you shouldn't do this if you value your sanity. Would you like me to search for it?

>>70738498
>English-speaking retards post in English constantly all over social media.
>ESL retards very rarely post in English
That's literally it. We get a retard filter.

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>>70739720
Gotcha.

>>70739680
"you fucking monkey" does not give context to "It's still a poem" and vice versa. As such, the only use a comma would have in my sentence would be theatrics.

>>70739655
There's this supposedly good vocabulary test online somewhere and I'd be shocked if most people here scored below the college educated professional range.

>>70739748
Yes, this one! Mine was just cut into pieces to meet the pixel height limit for pictures on other places.

>>70739196
You must be a child prodigy

>>70739506
Wow I love France now

>>70739774
It makes all the difference and it's just good practice to maintain.

>>70739267
You rekt him with the poem example huehue-bro!

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>>70739823
>Other places

>>70739710
Of my 311 word OP, 49 words weren't Germanic in origin. That's 15%.
>>70739862
If a particular comma does not provide any grammatical substance to the sentence, it is therefore a poetic device and not a grammatical one.

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>>70739914
Only small under-bed hosting can allow itself to upload images with no limit. When you hit the popularity at least as 410chan's, you gotta do something about rapidly vaporizing free space. And that's not even having archived threads in mind.
If the question is about milti-boarding, I cannot name a single imageboard where I could find more than 2-3 boards I'm not disgusted to enter. Usually it's just one, others are either drowning in random unrelated bullshitttery or long forgotten and have 1 post per hour at best.

>>70739710
In fact, there were 156 unique words in my OP, and
only 21% weren't Germanic.

>>70739918
It greatly enhances the reading experience. Even if you are in the internet you should still write like you were doing a big novel. But that's the romance language school of thinking, that you seem to be opposing.

>>70740080
The Germanic school of thinking is the best school of thinking.

>>70739918
>original poster
>germanic
>origin
>particular
>comma
>provide
>grammatical
>substance
>sentence
>poetic
>device

Nigga, try using only germanic words on that post. Of course chavs and boggans can only articulate simple sentences and they don't have the ability to express any complex thought so they use little french loan words in their daily babbling.

In any case, I'm not here to insult english considering I like how it sounds, much better than other germanic languages.

>>70740080
Depends on the resource. If that's a slow forum where you have time to express the thought properly, you can write as much and curvy as you need, bit in /int you just have to answer before thread hits the bumplimit, question is answered and the person you are talkink to is still here.

>>70740123
Also, as you can see, sometimes one can even skip the spellchecking and leave the stupid shit like "talkinK" in the text.

>>70740119
>First writer/scribe
>Germanic and variations of it are used in every language lol
>Spring
>Own
>The root word grammar is used in almost every European language.
>Stuff
>The word poetry is used in almost every European language
>Tool

>>70740230
>>70740119
Forgot a synonym for provide.
>Give

>>70740230
>scribe

Do you really can't tell apart when a word is not germanic? The funny thing is that most of the time when I don't know a word in english I just have to anglicise the spanish equivalent and it usually works.

>Germanic and variations of it are used in every language lol
>The root word grammar is used in almost every European language.
>The word poetry is used in almost every European language


>rest of european languages are peregrinus tier

surprise motherfucker

FRESHEN YA DRINK GUV'NAH

>>70740495
I'm not saying that we should ditch Latin words in English (pretty much every European tongue has Latin words), but the use Norman words, especially when Germanicisms are available, have always been a mark of pretentiousness.

>>70740584
Okay let's compare English to Russian:

>Я нe гoвopю, чтo мы дoлжны вычиcтить лaтинcкиe cлoвa из aнглийcкoгo (пoчти вce eвpoпeйcкиe языки имeют лaтинcкиe cлoвa), нo иcпoльзoвaниe нopмaнcких cлoв, ocoбeннo кoгдa дocтyпны гepмaнизмы, вceгдa былo знaкoм вычypнocти.

ZERO Latin words if we don't count the words like "Latin" and "European"

>>70741709
Бyхгaлтep, бyтepбpoд, вaннa (лoхaнкa, лoл?), вepcтaк, вepфь, вaгoн, гpyнт (ЗEMЛИЦA PУCCКAЯ), кнoпкa (нy oкeй, бyлaвкa), плaц, пoчтa, pюкзaк (и нe пизди чтo нe oтличaeшь eгo oт пopтфeля или тopбы), cтaмecкa, cтyл, тopф, тyфля, фляжкa, шaхтa, штpих, шyткa, гильзa, бинт, и пpoчee гoвнo (c) Пeдивикия.

Aside from half of terms not having any analog in Russian, others are used much more frequent than medieval language. Wake up, Neo, you obosralsya.

>>70738498
I unironically get it and it's mixed up sometimes

>>70741962
1. The discussion was about latinisms, not germanisms.
2. I really doubt the guy intended to claim that Russian has no borrowings at all (1 sentence wouldn't proof it anyway), just less than English does.

Also purification when?

>>70742324
I literally cannot explain how the fuck did I think that he wrote about german, not english words. These fuck-ups start to annoy me.

Buit he just did write that russian cannot be spoken without germanisms, and most of these words I listed were irreplaceable unless you wear bast shoes and embroided agrarian shirt.
But I do agree that russian is more rich when it comes to synonyms.

>>70739189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfRSvTSY0d4

>>70738498
Engrish is the simplest language, even ameridumbs can master a simplified version of it.

>>70742739
this

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>>70742739
He has a point, validated by
>>70742760

>>70738498
>I always hear cucks bitching about how it is the most difficult language to learn and that its rules are schizophrenic.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiVs05yq9-o

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>>70743018
>Lindy"england won the 100 years war"beige