Is your country a real democracy with more than 2 viable parties

>>70408210
we have the best democracy but shitty parties you totalitarian sperf

>More than 2 parties
Yes
>Any of them viable
No, not even the stronger ones, all of them are shit

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The Libertarian party might just have been able to pull off a presidency if they didn't go full retard over Trump. With increasingly shitty choices for president in current elections, third party votes have increased, just these third parties are AIDS tier

>>70408210

No. :c

>>70408232

I know your democracy is good but without viable parties it's shit just like in USA

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>>70408210
why are finns the worst posters?

>>70408232
>russian democracy

you've had the same king for like 40 years, how is russia a democracy?

>>70408210
yeh, growing too

>True Finns elected to stop immigration
>record immigration under their watch
>lose over half their support

Thank you based democracy

implying all of those parties arent literally the same shit. ps already proved that theres nothing but the illusion of choise

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>>70408210
unfortunately yes

aus yes because multiple parties can be on office at once

>>70408388
autism

>>70408210
I wouldn't call any of them viable.

Yeah. On occasion ruling parties get almost entirely wiped out in the elections here.

>>70409305
>>70408388

Dumb oligarchy posters

>>70408210
Not really. We basically end up with the "choice" of a bunch of cunts with very similar pandering to baby boomers and answering to Murdoch, etc.
I suppose the Greens, which are getting more of a foothold, are somewhat different. Although they're platform seems to be getting more and more like the two main parties as the years go by.

>>70408210
Labour are currently unelectable so yeah the Conservatives will win easily in 2020. The Liberal Democrats aren't worthwhile either. UKIP should change their image now, make it the Libertarian Party or something.

>>70409511
Stalin should've nuked you

there's currently 6 parties in parliament

>>70409640
The people who support UKIP are far from libertarian. They're poor white working class that have conservative social values and want to control many aspects of your life.

>>70410113
Whatever it is they're gonna have to change their image at some point anyway.

>>70408210
Nope. Whatever we vote we end up with a "purple cabinet" and non-mainstream parties are entirely sidelined regardless of how many votes they get.

Like in the days of the Republic, we're still an oligarchy.

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We have several parties, but realistically speaking, we have only two big parties who can form a government (they currently govern Germany in a coalition).

>>70408210
Back to /pol/ you dumb finn.

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http://www.straitstimes.com/politics/one-party-rule-may-be-way-for-spore-to-succeed

Hmmmmm.

not really, there's never enough time between revolutions to develop a bipartisan system lmao

>>70410505

Singapore and Belarus have good systems that are secretly envied by the West.

>>70408210
Since 2014 we have two more big political parties, Ciudadanos and Podemos, so that last elections were
PP > PSOE > Podemos > Ciudadanos

>>70410144
Well fuck obviously, they're literally obsolete after Brexit, Sherlock

Anyway, why is Labor unelectable? I don't follow Brit politics very closely but I assumed it hinges entirely on how May does cause after Cameron pissed everything up like the inept bumblefuck he is, everyone was gonna go "cor, let's try the other chums now"

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North Korea has 4 political parties in its parliament,Murricca has only 2...really makes you think

>>70410505
Topkek I just got back from having a smoke so I was still wearing sunglasses and didn't see the crescent in your flag, thought you were Poland until I saw the filename

The funny thing here is that Poland effectively has a one-party government since 2015 and there's no telling if they're gonna pull an NSDAP and never leave, AND apparently they've been doing pretty good too

>>70410655
>Anyway, why is Labor unelectable?

Jeremy Corbyn.

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>>70410878
He's a fucking joke, sure, but I thought the plebs liked him

>>70410686
Ouch!

Kind of.
issue is that all the parties keep disbanding or getting into government and then stepping down for their retardation thus creating technical governments.
Italy has been without an elected government for about 6-7 years i think.

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>>70408210
Who cares? the presidental system are coming soon...

>>70411077
>Italy has been without an elected government for about 6-7 years i think
No.

Oligarchy on suicide watch

>>70408210
Not really. We have Labor Party & the Liberal-National Coalition (Liberal Party & National Party). Coalition is basically right-lite + complete corporate dick-sucking and Labor is centre-right + autism. Though Labor is vastly better, both are fucked and I would like to see many other parties getting attention. It's just that these are basically the only perceived options by most of the population and many of the more popular alternatives are just as bad if not worse (*ahem* greens). Our overall political system is okay though, it's not so absolute as some others.

>>70411077
Have you ever had a party who last more than 5 year since 1992 ?

>>70408210
So what are the differences between all of them

>(((democaracy)))

>>70411077
>we elect the Prime Minister
when will this meme end?

>>70415271
nope

>>70411005
The Labour party members like him. That's why he got elected twice.
A considerable amount of Labour party members are under the illusion that they represent the working class, despite being very middle class.

Plebs as in the working class aren't a huge fan of him because during the Brexit campaigning, he was for Bremain whereas a lot of the working class wanted Brexit.

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>>70411077
the council president is elected by the parliament you fucking grillino

>>70408210
Nope.
There are more than 2 parties but only 2 them have power for over decade and both are shit.
The best part, they are almost the same thing but radical voters of them hate each other with such passion it's funny.
And whole main media play around them.

>>70415271
Apart from 2006-2008, Berlusconi was always PM between 2001 and 2011

>>70415508

The working class will vote for him once they realise Brexit means paying 25% more for iPhones and FIFA games

>>70415358
Top down:
SDP: the "socialist" party. Currently in opposition. Sometimes was joked to be as the most right wing party in parliament
CEN: "Central" party. Rural Finland first. Party of the current PM.
NCP: Tries to sell itself as pro busines. Obviously right wing. Also in government atm and the party of the current president.
Greens: Green. Anti nuclear, etc.
FINNS: Populist party. The third partt in government. Sometimes said to be alt-right, but is more varied than that. Rose into the realm and over the traditional parties in popularity before last election, but the refugee crisis has eaten it badly.
LEFT: More old school socialists. Sometimes accused to be left behind times.
SPP: Fenno-swede party. Has been part of government in almost every election cycle for decades, because they have few demands other than keeping the swedish in schools etc. And thus has been an easy partner to fill up the roster.
CD: Christ Demograts.Very conservative abd religious.

>>70415557
Italian politics were easier when it was only DC vs PCI. Now there's a lot of coalitions and weird political parties

>>70415726
It was easier even before 2013. It was just Berlusconi vs the left. That's why the proportional system has stuck for so long.

Democracy is a giant load of crap.

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>>70408210
no ;-;

>>70416076

Except for all other crap.

Democracy is actually like a nice sized soft poo. Communism is like diarrhea, dictatorship is akin to constipation.

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>>70408210
>Is your country a real democracy

No

> with more than 2 viable parties to choose from?

Yes.

>mfw if I want to vote for the opposition it's either the socialists or the Islamists

wat do?

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We've got a few.

>>70408210
Finland was controlled by one guy for 50 years

>>70408479
>lose over half their support
Really? I didn't know that, that's wonderful! Finally their reign of oppression against Finland-Swedes can end.

>>70408210
5 parties here (socialist, christdemocrats, greens, nationalist, liberal)

I'd vote for the liberals if they weren't such massive EU shills, so I vote for nationalists instead

>>70410606
Singapore, sure. Nobody envies White-Russia.

The fuck is real democracy anyway?
The way I see it, there is always a party who have the most votes, they just create a coalition with another one and they have the majority and do whatever the fuck they want ignoring other 30% of votes.
Democracy is a myth.

>>70408210
Yes but all of them are SJW shit.

>>70416772
*led
And it was less than thirty.

>>70416951
>minority vote lose, thus it's not denocracy
?

>So many burgers lashing out for calling their democracy not true

Are you that insecure about your "free" country?

>>70417077
*controlled

And it doesn't matter you guys were a dictatorship

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>>70416772
Less than thirty. and just *led* he had less rights than the american president has now.

two main parties atm but a lot of people are getting sick of them so in the future (10-20 years) we'll probably see more parties come into play.

>>70415704
Hasn't Finland handled the immigration decently though? Quick answer with controlling the border and secured deals to send back afgans and iraqis? Admittingly there are sure to be things I do not know and everything seems better when you are at the bottom of the barrel.

>>70417259
If Kekkonen was a dictator so is Trump.

>>70411005
The Holodomor was a very, very good thing.

>>70417921

It never happened. Great depression = Holodomor. People died of poverty, no organised plan besides that.

>>70417532
They didn't go full CLOSE THE BORDERS -mode, so some people saw thayät as breach of promise.

>>70408388
because they're literally Mongoloids

>>70416772
>>70417890
What the fuck is wrong with our society for not wanting a strong leader? It is very natural, to have a leader of a "tribe" who takes care of all this shit.
Goddamn, just take the best candidates and let the people decide who wins, then he will rule the country for 5 or whatever years without being interrupted, just let this man do his fucking thing in order to secure the well-being of the citizens, thats all. Nobody needs to be interested in politics except for the actual election, in the time between elections just let the man rule and see how it goes.
One wise person ruling is much better than some fucking parliament made of people who will never agree on a decision and will always half-ass everything with compromises.

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>>70418007
Kekkonen is a pretty good example of that. We needed leadership who could play both sides and keep us diplomatically and otherwise independent. And he did exactly that, for 30 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjt-AeJkzf0

>>70417965
No, it actually did. Holodomor went like this:
>Ukrainian village, people grow plants and animals to eat like thousand of years before
>suddenly Russian communists come and say "ok, now you have to pay taxes, 90% of your whole food possession has to be given away to feed our big country, resist and we will hang you"
>some people resist
>communists just come and take whatever they want killing everyone who dares to protest
>as a result regular people have nothing to eat
>starvation till death

>>70417965
OK then. it didn't happen, but it should have.

>>70415704
Very nice, admire it. Lots of parties worth voting for.

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>>70415704
>>70418268

>tfw we have shitty FPTP
>tfw no real balance
>tfw parties win majorities with just a third of votes

>>70418086
Kekkonen was a Soviet appeaser and a cuck.

kys Kepu scum

>>70418328
>Soviet appeaser

Good.

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>>70418328
>JUU VITTU HYVÄ VAAN KUN NÄYTETÄÄN KESKARIA NEUKUILLE HYVVVÄÄ PATTAA HAKKAA PÄÄLLE POHJANPOIKA!!

Vitun vammainen idiootti.

>>70408210
Our two-party system traditionally hasn't been an issue given that party discipline is non-existent outside of the Electoral College, but the trend of refusing to negotiate with the other party is somewhat concerning.

There are more than two parties, but all of them are fucking memes

>>70418387
>implikaatoit että Kekkonen ei ollut täysin neukkujen taskussa ja käyttänyt idän uhkaa oman paskan kepu sisäpolitiikan pakottamiseen Suomessa

Kotiryssä painu vittuun siit

>>70418483
>Impliseeraa että idän uhkaa ei ollut.

Kekkosen takia neukut piti suomea väylänä ja taloudellisena partnerina lännen kanssa.

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>>70418328
>Soviet appeaser

Finns see no problem with this. Trading with the Soviet Union made us a lot of money. Without USSR's business, we would be Grrece/Spain tier today.

>>70418693
this

Binland was the Northern Yugoslavia

>>70417219
Americans never claimed to be a democratic country, they're a republic.

>>70418693
Don't try to spin it as a positive thing. Kekkonen was a soviet appeaser because the other option was what happened to czechoslovakia and estonia. With free trade with western countries this country would have been sweden tier by the 70's instead of a poor agrarian shithole.