During the Taiwan crisis in 1996, some PLA general bragged that

they won't

I don't think you know the first thing about warfare.

I think they were talking about the blacks I.e. The la riots

>>70407330
That was in 1992.

>>70407235
>US has ABMs, a navy bigger than OP's mother, and enough nuclear deterrent for the whole planet
>china has a single half-ass carrier, frigates based on mid-cold war tech, and a few noisy-ass SSBNs and SSNs
Not all that worried

>>70407345
I thought they went on for some years?

>Bill Clinton sends a US carrier fleet to the Taiwan Straits, which is bristling with enough nukes to wipe every major Chinese city off the map
>tells Beijing to bring it
>they throw up their hands and go home
You tell me, OP.

The Pacific fleet is larger than the entire Chinese navy lmoa

Can China just fucking invade Taiwan already? I'm tired of governments being forced to walk on thin ice around China because muh Taiwan.

China has no force projection capability now and they had even less in 1996.

>>70407235
>chinese overlords
>bad
I welcome them. your time is over burger.

I hope China defeats the United States soon. Amerifatland is a decadent non-nation governed by a plutocracy who are ruling the world like a mafia.

>>70407370
They also have a Frankenstein MBT consisting of an Abrams turret on a T-72 body.

>>70407447
Ew, that's fucking disgusting. Nothing a few ATGMs or an Abrams couldn't take care of though.

>>70407446
And China is a 3rd world shithole run by actual kleptocrats and party commissarate with no regard for human life.

Pick your poison, there are no good options

>>70407403
Can China just fucking retake the mainland already? I'm tired of governments being forced to recognize these subhuman pinkos because muh 1.3 billion.

>>70407446
*places horsehead in your bed*

>>70407446
>implying a chinese stalinistic dictatorship is any better than US hedgemony

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>>70407523
>stalinistic
Stalin never whored his country out to foreign corporations... Although he should have, a few million Ukrainians might not have died if he did.

>>70407492
Just proves that China can't design any equipment of their own. Look at the OP pic, they just copy the US Army uniform.

>>70407538
Yeah, I didn't consider that.
>>70407542
Well they're a factory, you give them the blueprints and they build a million of 'em.

even if they have the numbers theyre empty statistics because chinks are chinks who are indifferent towards politics and have no solidarity towards the communist party or any wars it would wage

>>70407235
hey xi, how are you today?

>>70407501
>>70407523

I'm not talking about to replace US hegemony with Chinese hegemony, I am talking about ending with Yankee imperialism and respect China as the first world power, not as a world leader.

>>70407594
>and have no solidarity towards the communist party or any wars it would wage
This is an important point we often overlook--the PLA isn't a national army per se, it's a political army. The officers and enlisted men swear an oath to defend the CCP, not the Chinese nation or people.

>>70407629
Yes, because Spain suffers so much from US imperialism...

>>70407511
I'd like to see Taiwan try without any foreign help. They'll get slaughtered and you know it.

An invasion of taiwan is literally china's most thoroughly planned strategy, it would take a day or even less to take the entire island.

there would be no ability to react to an invasion, its just going to make the west look silly and bitch about it like the crimean annexation did.

OP is some retarded chink.

>>70407653

The United States acts like a mafia, if you accede to their blackmail you are not going to have any problem, if you do not accede to their blackmail you will be really fucked.

If Spain is no fucked is just because our politicians are collaborationists.

>>70407791
>The United States acts like a mafia, if you accede to their blackmail you are not going to have any problem, if you do not accede to their blackmail you will be really fucked.

You mean like every nation in the history on earth? What an astute observation.

>>70407629
>respect China as the first world power
Jesus christ man, they have no power. Their military is a fucking joke and lacks any notable force projection. Their economy could be easily debased by buying goods from Vietnam, Myanmar, Thailand, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan (and maybe the Philippines if they stop being such a little bitch).

>>70407833
>>We act like savages because Babilonia, the Roman Empire and the European empires did the same thing.

I don't see the logic.

>>70407876
>(and maybe the Philippines if they stop being such a little bitch).

One communist leader does not change anything.

If America is truly ticked off by our despot leader maybe your cunt can do something about it.

>>70407876
>Their military is a fucking joke
Only advantage it has is sheer numbers.

>>70407909
We tried that in Cuba back in the '60s. Maybe we'll give the Revolutionaries something better than M4s this time.
>>70407962
Exactly, they'll try some dumbass human wave like the Norks and get absolutely buttfucked

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China would have to fight tooth and nail through a literal rain forest in a province where a quarter of the population owns guns.

Not only that, but the majority of our Chinese immigrants either hate China with a passion, or are simply too spoiled and decedent to do anything for their cunt.

Maybe in America they could simply poison the burgur supply, but they'll never take Cascadia.

>>70407876

Precisely China has become the main foreign holder of US public debt. China can do much harm to America if they want.

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>mfw this thread

>>70408091
We can do JUST as much harm to them, believe me.

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>>70407876
>hurr their economy's gunna crash if we don't buy their tshirts and McDicks toys

>>70408130
But what if NATO, ASEAN, and other US Allies stop buying? That would brutally fuck their economy. Besides, there's always Plan B.

>>70408130
They produce a lot of stuff, but it's mostly low quality crap.

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>>70408061
Cuba is different.

The people there are communist/socialist.

The people here still heavily favor the US over China. Flippos have relatives and friends all over in America, pretty hard to sever that connection. Even Chinese-Flips here are far more patriotic than your average Pinoy and shun China altogether.

>>70407886
You don't seem to have an understanding of how international politics works anon

>>70408223
and who produces your goods then? you would destroy your own economy. And china would survive easily, when other countries wont follow your genius example.

>>70408091
The Chinese economy DEPENDS on the US taking out debt. China would be equally fucked if they attempted to screw over the US

>>70408257
The Philippines has been in the US sphere of influence for almost 120 years while they've never had anything to do with China historically.

>>70408276
Pay no heed to this kraut, Germany is so cucked that they believe national sovereignty is bad and evil and that the way forward is globalism and being citizens of the world.

>>70408276
We could technically support the industrial capacity needed to produce them locally, and nearly fully automated. The technology exists, it's just the money needed to start production is insanely high

>>70408257
I didn't consider that. I keep forgetting that a president doesn't necessarily represent his people (hell look at our most recent election). What do you think, would you rather the Philippines stay US-oriented or become Chinese-oriented?

>>70408257
You niggers of asia in australia all want to be real niggers or nips, and the poll shows exactly how you cunts behave.

>>70408319
oh i am a fan of national sovereignty. Which is why i think you would be quite alone on the "boycott china" front. No country under the EU would be so stupid to follow your order.
>>70408256
>>70408320
they already produce high quality products. and they are the biggest producers of rare earth elements. And just for you burger, this is something you cant just produce.

>>70407235
>zerg rush
holy flashback

>>70408370
>they already produce high quality products
The vast majority of Chinese industry does not. It still relies heavily on sweatshop labor
>and they are the biggest producers of rare earth elements.
That's not impressive. Any shithole can produce a lot of mineral wealth. The Congo is intimately wealthier in minerals than most of China and look where it's at.
>And just for you burger, this is something you cant just produce.
What is Boeing

>>70407691
t.Fuerdai

So you don't think the US and Taiwan also plan for a Chinese invasion?

>>70408323
>or become Chinese-oriented?
Said no one ever.

Ideally countries should be independent but in realpolitik an imperfect relationship with the US is far better than bowing down to pencil dicks.

>>70408423
I'd agree, if only because I'm US-biased and I like having dependable allies. Plus keeping the area "stable" is nice too.

>With a slowing economy, and with structural economic and social tensions becoming worse rather than better, China is a large but fragile power ruled by a vulnerable party that can’t afford any economic or foreign policy disasters, let alone a large scale war with her neighbors. Its economy is fundamentally interdependent with that of free international trade and global supply chains. War for China would be an economic and social disaster.

>Beijing has no allies to speak of outside of Pakistan, and is strategically isolated. This condition worsens the more aggressive they become. China also is sorely inexperienced in modern warfare. The last military conflict they fought was a three week clash with Vietnam in 1979, when the PLA struggled against Vietnamese militia and border guards. Clashes with India and the USSR in the 1960s, and intervention in Korea during the 1950s hardly count as modern warfare.

>The PLA's primary aim is to preserve the power of the CCP, per its oath of allegiance, and not the defense of China as a whole. Army officers still waste inordinate amounts of time learning political doctrine over practical military skills. Corruption in the PLA is also immense, as is the buying and selling of army positions to the highest bidder.

>China has improved its military capabilities significantly since the 1980s, but geography weighs against it. Most continental powers are rarely effective naval powers, as the past examples of Russia, Germany, and France prove. Chinese equipment is well behind the US military, by a good 25 years. It lacks any decent anti-submarine capabilities, and their outdated, noisy submarines do not match Russian subs from a technological standpoint, let alone US ones. Soviet submarines of the 1970s were more advanced in some ways than Chinese subs of 2016. The upcoming T-95 sub will still not be as sophisticated as the 1980s Soviet Akula-class submarines.

>>70407691
There's no fucking way China can take Taiwan. Not now. Probably not in 20 years.

Amphibious invasions are fucking hard. Look up Operation Downfall

>>70408490
>The PLAAF is also quite backwards in all categories. Most Chinese aircraft are supplied by Russia or else reverse engineered from Russian designs. In over 30 years, China has yet to produce a decent high performance jet engine.

>China's ballistic missile arsenal is improving, but the DF-21 has yet to destroy a naval target at battle speed. It also depends heavily on radar satellites and long range radar for target acquisition. These are all soft targets which the US military could disable easily. It isn't clear in any case, according to the Pentagon, whether China has the capability to collect accurate targeting information and pass it to launch platforms in time for successful strikes against distant targets at sea.

>China's ICBM arsenal includes the DF-5B with MIRV capabilities, however this is hardly groundbreaking technology, although it was in the 1970s when the Pentagon first learned that the Soviet SS-18 was capable of carrying MIRVs. Some PLA generals and strategic planners in China have taken to boasting about China's nuclear arsenal (cf. the comments made back in the 1990s that they could wipe out Los Angeles in seconds if they wanted to), but while China's second strike capabilities are fair to good, they suffer a serious liability in that as much as 40% of the country's entire population lives along the coast. China's major coastal cities are extremely vulnerable to US nuclear strikes, undoubtedly the message President Clinton sent during the 1996 Taiwan Crisis.

>>70407235
>China has almost 2 billion people
1.325 actually. Let's not exaggerate.

>>70407235
t. Ping

>The US military remains the most advanced in the world, and has not ignored Chinese capabilities (which are extremely deficient in many ways) and how to counter them.

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>>70407446
This. Amerispics need to get knocked down a peg. China is the future.

>>70408664
Not shown: The 500 million peasants living in Tin shacks

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>>70408688
>>70408664
This is how average Zhang lives outside of the coastal cities.

You mean like in the Korean War where Chinese troops sent US soldiers running for their lives from the Chinese border all the way half into South Korea to which when the US called for a cease fire?

>>70407235
Provide my country, Vietnam with weapon, tank and aircraft. I will kill Chinese chinks for you.

No joke, I want to take revenge for all the things Chinese has done to my country. Bejing rape coming soon.

>>70408760
Off the record, China and North Korea lost 1.5 million people while the US lost about 35,000.

>>70408800
Another historically ignorant moron who thinks IRL war=COD.

>>70408825
Take off your proxy, you dumb CCP bot.

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>>70408800
What is that over exaggeration. I'm not denying they lost more but it's not that ratio ( you also have to count south Korean troops)

>>70408800
Do you even know what the Vietnam War was? Look up the footage of the last US helicopter leaving Saigon.

>it's a 50 cent thread

don't you have /k/ to shit up, zhang?

>>70408866
The Vietnam War was not a military failure, it was a political failure. We could have easily broken North Vietnam, in fact we nearly did but for the traitorous left wing fifth column in America who undermined the war effort and compelled us to pull out.

>>70408910
What was that winning strategy? The military tried many things, none of them were very successful (I am talking about actually winning that conflict, no one can deny we were very good at killing the enemy). To say that we didn't lose that war is to encourage future military leaders to fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors. Part of the reason for our failure in Iraq and Afghanistan is because we failed to learn from the mistakes of the Vietnam War.

>>70408928
We were winning; the Paris Peace Accords were signed when North Vietnam was almost totally exhausted. They took another two years to muster their forces to invade the South.

>>70408928
>What was that winning strategy?
Stop the NVA's offensive, which they did after Tet.

The US military did learn from Vietnam, specifically that conscripts are actual people with feelings who can tell the truth about the war, and not simply walking bullet sponges.

>>70407235
all rook same

The reality today is politicians will bend if they fear bad press and our military leaders answer to the President. That doesn't make for a winning strategy. Take World War 2, for instance. Back in the 1940s, the "free" press was totally in the tank for whatever war strategy the President would approve. It was a different time when few would question our leaders and especially during time of war. Did the US commit war crimes during World War 2? Its not PC to say, but its certain we did, but that's the case by every army in every war ever fought. BTW, I'm 100% behind the war effort during World War 2.

>>70409001
No, that's not it.

The difference of WW2 and the random regional wars US is getting involved in after WW2 is that WW2 was a just war.It was a war that US acted the way it should have,the rest of the dozen of the wars US got involved was wars for its interests. Wars in the race of world dominance between the 2 cold war opponents.

That's why the public in WW2 was supportive of the war and that's why the public stopped supporting the Vietnam war for instance. Cause it wasn't their war, Vietnam was not a threat to the american public,US has no business getting involved in it in the first place.

>>70409001
That's because it's much easier to justify total war against someone threatening all your former allies, trade partners and potentially even you than a Asian country with not much relevance to your people
Also war crimes on germs do not count as crimes

>>70409024
WWII was not a just war, it merely happened that the US was fighting an enemy which was far worse from a moral standpoint. In the last two years of the war, the US committed more than its share of war crimes by terror bombing of German and Japanese cities. USA still uses strategic bombing against civilians in order to kill thousands and millions. Tactics have changed to destruction of public welfare infrastructure rather than direct kill by blast, shrapnel and fire. The results are the same.

>>70408768
arent you guys chinese rape babies?

>>70409049
War was always like that, don't kid yourself that US is somehow special in its cruelness when it concerns civilians.

In all cases of sieges, of any kind. The civilians are targeted on purpose in order to break the morale of the local defenders. Especially if those defenders have the support of the civilians.If you make the life unberable for the people,the people will sooner or later turn on their defenders or in general stop supporting them.

Yugoslavia-Serbia case,was exactly that scenario.US was targeting civilian targets in mass,till the local populace overthrew their government. Or in the American Civil War when Sherman burned Georgia to break the South's will to fight.

>>70409049
>>70409024
The RAF bombed Dresden, not the US Air Force. Also I think the atomic bombings were quite justified after what the Japanese did to civilian populations in Asia.

Patriots fight harder because the stakes are higher. US soldiers are mercenaries. They only fight for money and their fellow gangsters.

The US military lacked resolve, honesty, and courage in the Vietnam war. The patriots were fighting for home, family, and country. The invaders were fighting because the politicians said so, and because they were imperialist mercenary warmongers.

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>>70407542
Those troops were being displayed in a parade so they're the elite units of the PLA. Most of the rank and file troops wear a slightly updated variant of the old Mao era green uniforms.

>>70408490
Warfare in the 21st century will require a nimble, adaptable military that can handle many different situations and change up strategies on the fly. However, the PLA does not meet this description by any stretch; it is an extremely centralized, top-down bureaucracy that discourages any independent initiative. It is also a political necessity for the CCP to keep the army under its control, lest it pose a threat to their power (as Mao Zedong said, "The party must control the gun, the gun must not control the party").

Although China is not an outright enemy of the United States, it is also not an ally either and while the two nations may have certain shared interests, there are numerous other areas (for example, the Taiwan issue) where mutual agreement is all but impossible.

>>70409181
The Vietnam war was about North Vietnam invading the South, you dumb fuck

china certainly has the money to buy state of the art weaponry now. the army is formidable, the navy is improving, but still lagging technologically. the missile programs are getting better as well but cannot match Russian or US capabilities. the air force is a joke for the most part. they have not been very successful at producing jet engines, their amphibious capabilities are completely untested. Doing mock attacks on Taiwan's presidential building in the desert is pointless if they can't even reach Taiwan's shores without being sunk. Invading Taiwan will be like D-Day except the ships will have to cross 200 km of ocean first. Very difficult for any military, especially during typhoon season.

>>70407235
Don't forget that one Greek equals 1 million chinks.

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>>70407446
Literally all of this is the case for China as well, but worse.

>>70409840
Their ICBMs can hit the entire United States now, Google DF-41. They have more drones than US military, their hypersonic research is ahead of US. Cyber warfare, space warfare. US losing advantage everywhere. lyl.

>>70409871
>>70409840
the US isn't worried abut China's shitty electronics made by Alibaba.

>>70409871
You forget China's lack of battlefield experience. They haven't fought a war anywhere since the Vietnam conflict in 1979 when they got thoroughly stuffed.

>>70409871
>space warfare.
Now you're just making shit up, especially considering that China's part of the Space Preservation treaty

>>70409904
That and the US military has a $60 billion black budget and a secret base in Nevada to test out their toys.

>>70408370
They're breaking so many rules with their rare earth mineral production. They're using cheap, dangerous methods that produce pure poison and a worse product. It's pissing a lot of people off. Such a waste of precious resources and a compete disregard of environment and public health.

T. Geologist

>>70409840
>china certainly has the money to buy state of the art weaponry now
Actually they don't. Most of China's economy is built on a huge speculation bubble and their per capita GDP is a mere 6300 USD. Both China and Russia are cash-strapped as of late, and Russia has had to dial back their orders for PAK-FA fighter jets.

>>70407235
>China has almost 2 billion people

1.3 billion is closer to 1 billion not 2 billion.

>>70409949
You'll be doing the exact same soon enough, isn't Trump basically dismantling the EPA?

I'm pretty sure someone could sell him on the idea in 15 minutes flat.

Remember last time US military fight in East Asia. Huge loss. They lose both Korea and Vietnam wars against peasant armies with no technology. MacArthur was routed by Chinese army and requested to use nuclear bombs on China but the White House was afraid of Soviet retaliation. Now China have nukes, carrier killer missiles, and satellite killers....yet anon labeled them as paper tiger?

>>70410028

>>70408800
Does that sound like a defeat to you?

>>70410064
lyl whenever I talk to US veteran in wheelchair with missing limbs, they say the wars were all for nothing except enriching US corporations.

>>70410020
The EPA isn't just the department head, so no in practice he isn't.

>>70408768
why do you hate Chinese so much?
Yellow men should stick together in their struggle against the white devil

>>70410028
>They lose both Korea and Vietnam wars against peasant armies with no technology.

What a meme. Both North Korea and Vietnam had stage of the art Soviet weaponry and took absolutely massive casualties when it fought the US in a pitched battle. North Korea actually lost land after the borders for the DMZ were drawn.

>>70410106
War aren't fought for common people, only for governments and special interests. Everyone knows this, this is what drove WWI and WWII.

>>70410020
I highly doubt it. When I say it produces poison, I'm not joking around. It would take so much extra work and safety precautions it simply wouldn't be worth it, even if we did try to flaunt the rules.

I'd go into a lot more detail but I'm tired as fug. I'm sure you can find out more with a little googling.

Despite extensive modernization, the PLA is still not anywhere close to US military capabilities. Despite double digit increases in the defense budget, this has been eroded by inflation. The PLA is horribly corrupt and its equipment much inferior to anything the US military is toting. They are getting more modern bit by bit, but China has still no force projection to speak of. The only countries that can project power overseas at present are the US, UK, and France, none of which are surrounded by hostile neighbors/historic adversaries. China for comparison borders Vietnam, Japan, Russia, and India, two of which have nukes and all of which have bad blood with China for various historical reasons.

China's aggressive posturing in the South China Sea has further scared their neighbors and most relationships with other countries are strictly economic. The US military has dozens of foreign ports it can use while China has none at all save for Vladivostok. Although the defense budget has grown, the PLA is still loaded with obsolete equipment. They have 7500 MBTs, only 450 of which are comparatively modern (in terms of suspension, 125 mm guns, modern fire control, composite armor, etc). The US tank arsenal is state of the art and unmatched by any other military in the world. The remainder of the PLA tank arsenal are clones of Soviet T-55s which were obsolete 30 years ago.

>>70410134
Yes, I'm sure the department head is just there to mind his own business while everyone under him continues to do a job he described as overstepping the bounds of the agency, it isn't like we are talking about someone who tried to do away on limits for fucking mercury.

And Trump recently bragging about cutting 75% of business regulations was probably completely unrelated to environmental rules.

>>70410195
>War aren't fought for common people

Not quite true; the US enjoyed 25 years of near total economic dominance thanks to WWII and standards of living doubled compared to the prewar period.

>>70410259
The point is that Trump can't actually fuck with the EPA as much as he claims he can, nor can he remove every single regulation without encountering major opposition. Not to mention any company that takes advantage of this would be essentially blacklisted by its competitors

>>70408370
Oh, and fug, I forgot the most important part. China does not have a monopoly on rare earth minerals. They just produce so much of it, due to their cheap methods that other countries refuse to use, that it isn't economic to compete. Rare earth minerals aren't really rare. You can extract them from other minerals and even factory waste products. You just won't make money due to China pumping all their shit out at low cost. If they suddenly stopped, or they decided to use safe and ethical processing methods, the USA and Australia would pick up the slack in a heart beat. It's not a threat.

>>70410260
>US enjoyed 25 years of near total economic dominance thanks to WWII
Not because it joined the war, but because everyone else was destroyed by it. No such thing as a 'noble' war

>>70410235
China has a large air force, with some 1300 planes. But like the army, these are mostly obsolete. Only 502 of the PLAAF's aircraft are modern, with all the rest being 1960s-70s vintage. The US Air Force could sweep them from the skies in a few weeks.

The navy is in comparatively better shape, although better is a relative term. Liaonong is half as big as a Nimitz supercarrier and carries half as many planes. It does not have a catapult, meaning that China's J-15 naval fighters must use a ski ramp to take off, reducing their range and payload. Liaolong also lacks the radar or refueling capabilities of US carriers.

Submarines are another liability. Only half of China's 54 subs are modern, ie. built in the last two decades. The PLAN has four types of submarines, the Shang, Han, Yuan, and Song class, all of them markedly inferior to US submarines. The remaining Chinese submarine fleet, including the 1980s-vintage Ming class, are totally outdated. The PLAN halted production of the nuclear-powered Shang class after only building just three boats — an ominous sign. Moreover, Beijing has placed an order with Russia for up to four Kalina-class subs, signalling a lack of faith in local designs. Many of China's "new" weapons are actually foreign designs that Beijing's state companies have licensed, stolen, or painstakingly reverse-engineered. The Changhe Z-8 helicopter was originally the French Super Frelon. The Harbin Z-9 scout helicopter started life as the Eurocopter Dauphin. The Type 99 tank is an updated Soviet T-72.

>>70410259
When it comes to environmental regulations dealing with manufacturing, many are based on international agreements. Again I can talk about rare earth minerals. That's why everyone is pissed with China in the business. They aren't following the rules, and every other country refuses to break them.

I'm sure there are other examples outside of the mining industry.

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>nuke LA
>nothing of value was lost

Chinese are projecting idiots.

The tone of these posts sounds like a kid cringing in the corner of a dark room and shouting "I am not scared" on top of his lungs. Americans are scared.

>>70410412
You have to go back, Zhang.

>>70407235
>Zerg rush

And how would they do that? They have one aircraft carrier and it would take all the fuel supplies in the world to power the aircraft and ground vehicles to transport all those millions of troops plus a huge chunk of the worlds good stores to feed them. Their Army is massive but immovable. America can put two carrier groups and some missile subs off the coast, wipe them out from the sea.

>>70410419
You are wrong. China implements non-interference policy, and it believes every nation has the right to defend itself, and every nation has the right to spend whatever the amount it sees fit for its defense.

Besides, China doesn't badmouth other nations' military capabilities unlike the Americans in here who have been trashing other nations' militaries for the entire thread. The only possible explanation is the Americans being scared and thinking if they cover their ears and yell loud enough, it will go away.

>>70410451
>China implements non-interference policy, and it believes every nation has the right to defend itself, and every nation has the right to spend whatever the amount it sees fit for its defense.

That's some bullshit dude. China has literally invaded all of its neighbors and has funded almost as many communist coups in Africa and Asia as the US has in Latin America.

This reminds me of Cold War era fear of Soviet capabilities. The Red Army back then had a lot of the same handicaps as the PLA, such as being a political army that spent more of their time studying Marxist theory than warfare, and being a top-down bureaucracy with no room for independent initiative. Some naysayers also pointed out that the Soviet navy lacked adequate refueling capabilities which meant that outside their home waters, they couldn't really take on the US Navy and hope to win.

China is only interested in the S. China Sea. They don't have an integrated fleet. They build aircraft simply to match a Western design, but where are all the EW, ELINT and support aircraft? Those are 30-40 years behind Western designs.

The next conflict (pray that we are all smarter than that) will be won by intelligence and force integration.

>>70410451
China is currently relocating millions of Han to Vietnam and the rest of Indochina

They don't have to use planes and tanks when they can use demographic tsunamis to wipe entire nations out like they're almost finished doing to Tibet

>>70410393
It's also against international treaties to sanction individuals or corporations without a prior law yet Trump has repeatedly threatened to do so.

The rare earth thing aside he means to do away with a lot of environmental rules one way or another, if China tried to limit suply as it did some years back (the rest of the world wasn't as outraged about their breaking the rules back then) I'm sure Trump wouldn't hesitate to guarantee an economical supply for the US if it meant the literal extinction of a dozen species.

>>70410519
Trumps a loudmouth, he can't actually do the shit he promised. Even most of his supporters know this

>>70407235
China would get their shit slapped if they tried anything.

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Oh look, it's another "Unemployed manchildren who've never served a day in their nation's military play keyboard general" thread. Never change, /int/.

>>70410535
just like he couldn't actually stop muslim travel or build a wall right?

>>70410369
>>70410235
US military is full of obsolete equipment. B-52, B-1, Minuteman, M-1, all designed decades ago. meanwhile Russia and China are investing in brand new nukes.

>>70410563
Scrapping the EPA wholesale and passing legislation that already existed before he came into office are two different things

>>70410582
The US military has state of the art logistics and an unrivaled support structure that could fight a conventional war for essentially decades at a time.

>>70410582
Hardly. We have about 15,000 nuclear warheads only a few of which need an upgrade. Also even though some of our aircraft like the F-15 are long in the tooth, they're still superior to anything China is packing.

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lyl at how US military was kicked from Korea and Vietnam by peasant army with old guns

>>70410545
That explains why they think population number actually matters

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