>TFW have to work for a living When will we take back the

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Soon comrade

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>HE HAS TO WORK FOR A LIVING!

>>70339559
>having to work for a living
As opposed to just having to work?

>>70339628
When will it happen I want free things now

>>70339559
t. Wagecuck

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>>70339559
CLEAN IT WAGEY

>>70339741
Isn't Trudeau giving you enough free shit or are you somehow a white person?

>>70339747
>>70339787
>>70339646
>>70339711
Delete.

I need to somehow figure out how to get rich and become a rich neet.

>>70339831
I was unfortunately born with white skin and European heritage. For which I am ashamed of and apologetic for.

you still have to work after taking back the means of production

t. knower

>>70340023
What? I thought it was just free things

What can I do to get free things then?

>>70340055
you basically have to make things instead of pushing around things

the current economy is based on pushing around things, location, temporal or incidental

truly commune economy you would be in-charge of all that for a niche object, say polishing shoes
so instead of going around (location) and fining costumers, they would dump all their shoes on you and pick them up polished

>>70340258
What the hell does that mean for me

I just want free things who do I need to vote for to get free things

>take back the means of production from the 1%
>get sent to work in the community shoe factory for your whole life
Dumb ass stupid ass frog bitch leaf nigga Toronto poster

>>70340429
Can I become the 1% if I take the means of production back?

>>70339840
>live on tutorial mode
>don't know how to become rich

wew lad

>>70340463
You would have to be on the very top of the 99% to do that, so no.

>>70340489
How can I become the 1%?

>>70340552
Stop being a limp wristed bitch ass for starters lmao

>>70340597
Okay, what's the next step?

>>70340619
Prove to me you already did step one first you lil bitch because if you did you wouldn't be asking any more questions

>>70340339
it means you will get payed for the work you do
hence owning the means of production

as oppose to giving majority to your money from your production to people who don't polish shoes but divide the shoe polish industry into a service industry which while it seems it is it isn't, at least metaphorically

so if you lived in a community of 100 people all their shoe polishing expenses would go to you or your comrades without it going to your non-existent corporate head quarters

>>70339559
>work to set up a business
>get to the stage where the business runs itself with minimal input
>now dont have to work for a living

Its the capitalist dream

>>70340680
H-how can I prove it...

>>70340719
But doesn't the boss take on most of the risk when he starts the business?

And doesn't he also have other overhead costs besides my hypothetical salary?

>>70339559
https://livebunker.rocks/chat/int

>>70340771
Start a business, sell snow or something

>>70340771
Then why do you want to get rid of the systems you stupid bitch, besides it's Tuesday in the morning just go to school it's not like you don't live w/ your mum and dad so shut you ass up

>>70340771
he isn't starting anything because the needs of the society is fulfilled by the society, all it needs are workers

in capitalist societies there are "industries startups seed-money risk/reward and entrepreneurship" in a command economy there are needs and fulfillment of needs

eg 1 type of car for all families means no need for hundreds of different dealerships private body ships private mechanics shipping for foreign car parts etc etc capitalist vapor etc etc

>>70340923
Would it be like corporatism?

How does the economy work in a fascist society?

>>70340905
Delet...

I'm actually a neet but my mom is making me get a job

>>70341017
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>70341017
no, there are no interests only state interests and in a communist world there are no states so just social interests, which can change btw, it just comes down to how willing the state is to fullfill the wishes of the people

in a social facist country they did practically the same with the workers (telling them where to work) the only difference is that corporations exist so no taking back production

>>70341080
What do you mean by this

How does the economy function under fascism? Explain corporatism or Prussian Socialism or whatever natsocs think works

I want to learn more

>>70341137
Is corporatism an effective economic system?

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>>70339559

>>70341137
And what is Prussian Socialism

Does it work well?

>>70341195
corporatism describes a status of the government and how much it listens to it's corporations OVER the concerns of the people so that corporate interest IS the society's interest

corporatism is not an economic system by itself because what's the point of the government if they can just do their own thing, it is done to supersede human interest

>>70341315
it is towards corporatism as in tending to it for centuries, a body of workers in an industry would promote their interests ie just like germany now
except it also tends towards socialism so corporations still exist except they are employed by the government later on (either too big or failing) (like national entities in china)
would it work maybe if coporations are willing to be nationalized, such as venezuela and their oil but usa did not look kindly with that

>>70341585
Oh

Where can I learn more about the economics aspects of fascism?

The whole concept seems interesting to me but I'm confused as to how it would truly work practically. So far corporatism sounds pretty based.

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>Canadian intellectuals are literally neets that want to spew pseudo economic bullshit to their parents to convince them they're doing something with their lives and not get pressured into going out of the house

>>70341585

""" Fascism's theory of economic corporatism involved management of sectors of the economy by government- or privately- controlled organizations (corporations). Each trade union or employer corporation would, theoretically, represent its professional concerns, especially by negotiation of labour contracts and the like. This method, it was theorized, could result inharmony amongst social classes.[32]Authors have noted, however, thatde factoeconomic corporatism was also used to reduce opposition and reward political loyalty.[33] """

Does not sound bad

>>70341797
Delete

>>70339559
>the means of production?
theres never been anything like that anywhere. thats even an excuse for being lazy and doing nothing.

it comes down to individuality. make your own shit yourself.

When brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State.[37]

and

[The state] is not simply a mechanism which limits the sphere of the supposed liberties of the individual... Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State... Far from crushing the individual, the Fascist State multiplies his energies, just as in a regiment a soldier is not diminished but multiplied by the number of his fellow soldiers.[37]

What did he mean by this?

Was Mussolini /OUR GUY/?

>>70339559
>When will we take back the means of production?

Save up some capital and purchase some of your own you thieving rat

>>70341694
corporatism is dictation being dictation
in dictation you have at least one person representing what he things the people what

in corporatism the market is laid bare, not to competition but profit margin and cost cutting

lets put it into perspective basically coporatism is only interest if it's in a command society ala fascism, if it is in a market society it means very very bad things including products you don't want (oh man what is desire) or harmful or costly or useless etc etc

>>70342096
Is Fascism the cure then?

Why do people hate fascism

>>70342096
>being
beyond

>>70342152
fascism has an interest above all else, the fasces, state of war, the raison d etate
in the democratic west people want reasons, and the reason was the the state is in jeopardy

fascism is not a reason by itself and naturally cannot be unless it makes up an enemy to be war with

first world neets will be forced into wagecuckry in my lifetime
feels good man

>>70342296
North Korea is based on European fascism. Despite calling themselves communist. Things get corrupted pretty fast once leaders have absolute power AND have to fear competition.

>>70342296
Ok ok, this is too abstract we're getting far off topic.

The most pressing question is: How can I get rich under the current system and enter the 1%?

It seems that by statistics even being a millionaire isn't much these days by North American standards.

It's said that 1,700 people become millionaires every day in the United States.

How can I ensure I'll be one of the ~620,000 that become millionaires in 2017???

>>70342540
>how to get rich from 4chan
Are you a pajeet or chink, by the way? I don't think white kids can be this retarded

>>70342296
And you stop being a fag enabler

>>70342657
I guess it depends on your definition of white

>>70342540
>>70342657

work smart then hard
i need to go to school in a few minutes so an anecdote my professors complain about students who don't won't forgot to turn in assignments and their excuse was working too much

i was thinking about this earlier at work too
when in school school is first and most important everything else including work is secondary work when you can and only if school allows not 60-70 hours some do (people have different work rate and can do different times knowing how you study and how you work is very important)
after school you can work like a mad man, most don't why because they were skipping their responsibility of schooling not because they love low wage shit
low wage work is simple you do x you get x in school you got to work extra so people aren't used to working outside of their zone of knowingness so it's easy to pick work if they are equatable but they have very different ends

education is the capitalist out

get it or get square

>>70342883
education is for cucks though, is it not?

It will never get you rich, i think i need somehow innovate or become some sort of criminal.

what about those niggers that just fraud themselves a couple million then fuck off to Thailand for the rest of their lives? Can i do that?

>>70342989
>you're mum is forcing you to get a job
>probably 20 something year old neet
No Josh you're the cuck

>>70342989
it will hurt your soul

in that case crime is always an option in any system in any place or time

>>70343070
We'll see who's the cuck when I become interpol's most wanted criminal and retire to Thailand or the Maldives while you work at your little cuckold job

>>70343139
When that happens you'll still be the cuck lol jajaja like jajaja nigger you can't be serious

*frauds 20 million dollars*

Here take them jajaja dumb bitch jajaja while you're home jacking off to whatever sick shit you're into I'll be here chilling in some tropical beach all fruit of my work jajaja like for real man jajaja thanks for the laughs.

5/10 if trolling because you actually got me to reply serious a couple of times but you really can't be so retarded aren't you lil boy?

>>70343390
>
what the is jajaja

what kind of sound is that suppose to make? Like cha-cha-cha? Cha-cha-charmin?