What is wrong with poortugal? Zero demage in ww2, marschal plan,

It's genetics. Cold weather created a selective pressure for intelligence. Portugal isn't cold, so they never evolved to be as smart as the other Europeans.

>>70296057
By your logic Russians would wipe the shit out of their asses with money

>>70296202
We would have to do that. But communism happened.

>>70296004
No idea, we are supposed to be the lazy iberians.

>>70296267
How many portugese are mixed with africans and indians?

30-40%??

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>>70296004
t. butthurt czech that never answered my question

the russians created a generation of butthurt materialistic slavshits

>>70296320
Not many. They have tons of ex-colonials in Lisbon, though.

>>70296551
Elaborate

>>70296004
why are you so butthurt anon?

>>70296595
when i read articles about greece there were sometimes czechs who wrote some bullshit comments
before that i thought people here were just joking that they are butthurt

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Low IQ from all the miscegenation with Africans.

>>70296765
lynn is a subhuman like you brazilians

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>>70296810
Not nearly as subhuman as you, literal cockroach.

>>70296004
>ugly people
*cute people

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>>70296805
>>70296844
>stealing greek anon's maps

>>70296844
I am a Greek you ape

>>70296265
But you now live in fascism, Artyom

>>70296004
loosen up

>>70296911
We now live in such a surrealistic shit that I don't even have a term to describe this Juan

>>70296892
kys

>>70297003
i fucked your mother and you happened

>>70296975
What did he mean by this? Pls tell

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-rFPts0014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqWTTitg5RM
https://youtu.be/oFtMEJ5WpKI?t=57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r58scKJG54

>>70297064
kys

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>>70296739
Well greeks are entitled commies

They deserve poverty as a lecture

>>70297132
the dog was faster thats why your brother is so hairy

>>70297164
We have diagnosed retard type II in your blood.

>>70297005
Wow. Is this because of drugs?

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not its not funny
>>70297230

>>70297192
>>70297270
>>70297230

kys

>>70297259
Also because of African migrants.

>>70297320
Damn.

>>70297259
HIV prevalence today is a lot lower

>>70297363
source: your ass

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>>70296004
We had fascism and a little war

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>>70297399
https://news.vice.com/article/ungass-portugal-what-happened-after-decriminalization-drugs-weed-to-heroin

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/portugal-drug-decriminalization/

http://www.tdpf.org.uk/blog/success-portugal%E2%80%99s-decriminalisation-policy-%E2%80%93-seven-charts

http://www.tdpf.org.uk/blog/drug-decriminalisation-portugal-setting-record-straight

>>70297515
>leftie media
>source

Top kek

>>70298307
Whatever makes you sleep at night

>>70296004

Basically a lot of political instability and poor economic policies really retarded economic growth. It's also not a very rich country in terms of resources and was historically always been kind of a poor area.

Also, colonies were always much more expensive to maintain than what the mother country got out of them, at least in the second wave.

Haha butthurt czcuck BTFO

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>>70296004

>What is wrong with poortugal?

nothing, one of the biggest world reserves of gold, literally jews while pretending to be poor has fuck.

>>70298332
You don't magically get rid of HIV overnight. It will take at least three generations for HIV to be fully eradicated from Portugal, if at all, considering the never ending waves of African migrants coming into the country.

>>70299018
>venezuela has ton of gold
>is in the middle of an economic meltdown
EXPLAIN????

>>70299076

Socialism

>>70299076
>selling gold
>ever
Maybe you're retarded

>>70296004
it was the last colonial empire.

The portuguese saw the world in their own way and unlike the rest of europe refused to go with the flow and wanted to do things their own way.

The problem with that is the cold war. The colonies all got BTFO and portugal got dragged down with its empire.

>>70299159
Not really,our empire ended in 1999-2002

>>70299069
>never ending waves of African migrants coming into the country
lol

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>>70299018
>being this openly ignorant about basic economics
Civilization doesn't revolve around gold, Moor. Manufactured goods, services and technology are hundreds of times more valuable than gold. It doesn't matter how much gold you're hoarding in your federal reserve, if you lack a strong industry and isn't able to develop technology you'll most certainly remain as poor as you should.

>>70299195
Até é verdade porque Salazar era um cuco pelas colónias psh

We had a dictatorship until 74 so we were undeveloped, still exists today old people that doesn't know how to read and write properly because they "didn't need" they just had to work in agriculture. Other thing is our position in Europe, we are far away of the main Europe and back in the days that lead to isolacionism, now we are trying to get back on track and the quality of life is good despite the crisis.

ps: The haploshit that you guys posted doesn't mean anything most of eb1 and j in Portugal doesn't correlate with the jews or the north africans and recent studies made by a portuguese university prove that. But wtv makes you happy

>>70299447
>most of eb1 and j in Portugal doesn't correlate with the jews or the north africans
>t. Shlomo ibn Moshe al-Berberi

>>70299121
>>70299149
But gold was supposed to magically protect countries against all economic problems
Did /pol/ lie to me?

>>70299664
>Did /pol/ lie to me?
/pol/ circa Ron Paul memes? I wish I bought gold back in early 2000s t.b.h.

>>70296202
Dumb masses in Russia took everything over and killed anyone with ambition or intellect.
That's why Russia is the shithole we know today.

>>70296004
Uncompetitive economy mixed with highly socialist values and a dictator who literally wanted to keep people stupid to reign over them.
Also for how long have you been making these threads now? Almost two years?

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>>70299447
The Iberian Peninsula as a whole is underdeveloped by Western European standards because of your low IQ, something that's hardcoded in your DNA, which consequentially leads to poor government choices and therefore keeps your nation behind the other Western European nations that are predominantly high IQ. The same applies for every underdeveloped nation: bad genes leading to low IQ leading to a poorly managed government leading to whatever problems that come with it.

This also explains why every [ethnic] Anglo-Saxonic colonies outperformed every single Iberian colony (none of which could be predominantly ethnically Iberian, as much expected) in every imaginable way, everywhere.

>>70300024
t. Nelson Macaco da Silva

>>70299248

retrasado, informa-te antes de escrever ou meto-te uma banana no cu.

>>70300088
>>70300113

>when facts hit you in the head like a bag of bricks
Prove me wrong providing actual arguments, until then I'll keep my statement.

>>70296057
Really lad, it takes 5 seconds of thinking to see why this is false and it's been debunked decades ago, don't be silly.

>>70299447
>We had a dictatorship until 74 so we were undeveloped
Portugal has always been a poor region since its first documented history.

>Other thing is our position in Europe, we are far away of the main Europe and back in the days that lead to isolacionism
And so is Finland, the UK (which is quite the definition of an isolated nation per se), also Japan. How about South Korea? Singapore comes to mind, maybe? What about Australia? New Zealand, I guess?

You'll roll it over, turn it around, pass it through, spin it, bend it, break it down to bits, yet the only reasonable answer will always be your average intellectual output. High IQ isolated populations will always manage to thrive and prosper, regardless of their resource scarcity or how harsh their environment might be, they will always find a way to get under the spotlight of success.

The government emanates from the people, and the people's productivity and inventive thinking is derived from their average IQ. No quality government will ever sprout from a low IQ population, and even if it did they wouldn't be able to achieve their desired goals as the ones they're ruling wouldn't be able to accomplish said goals, and again, even if they did, they wouldn't be able to maintain it for very long.

You can't blame the government when it's merely a reflection of your own people.

>>70301076
Interesting.

>>70300024
PISA test just don't agree with you

>>70301076
The first statement is completely false!

>>70301278
Cala-te autista do caralho,mesmo que não seja verdade cala-te

We don't like to work.

Nobody does, we're just okay with it.

What's wrong with the rest of europe desu. Work all year to spend the money they earned on a few weeks in southern europe.

I guess Croatia is worth all that hardwork for you Czechians...

>>70301479
Hm what?

I love working and most people I know too. Its just a great feeling to be tired after work and go to pub for amazing cold pilsner

>>70302248
richtiger spasti

>>70301479
I could work 3 months a year and live comfortably in portugal for the last 9. Why did you think finnish pensioners are moving there en masse?

>>70302248
t. jsem vysokoškolák a pracuji v montovně
You can't understand the southern people and why they are "lazy"...
I wish I was Greek or Sicilian... But Instead I am semi-southern-semi-eastern
it's the worst combination - you are lazy, but you don't get the benefits of good weather.
This winter has been so cold, that I feel as if I'm living in the Baltics. And it sucks. I've seen huge temp differences between Athena and Sofia (like 15 degrees), and this hurrrrrts

>the Czech poster baiting the Portuguese
>ikibey
>the Brazilian poster baiting the Portuguese
>all together in one thread

I expected more replies

>>70301076
we don't have any good data on Portuguese IQ, except some studies from the 70s and 80s. people sometimes use PISA results since they show correlation with IQ studies (it's a bit self-reinforcing though) but in that case Portugal in 2015 was "smarter" than many European countries (including Czechia btw) that are doing better economically so it'd be another factor ;)

>>70302504
At least you have sea...we have nothing :((((

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Most "rich" countries don't owe their fortune to hard work or innovation

>>70302666
It isn't baiting when I'm proving actual arguments.

>people sometimes use PISA results since they show correlation with IQ studies
Academic performance doesn't always correlate intellectual output. Memory is proven to be the ruling factor when it comes to academic performance, regardless of your critical-analytical thinking and overall brain capability to understand signs and how fast you process external stimuli, which also affects your creative behaviour. A fairly simple example to debunk that argument: a genius from the 15th century such as Leonardo Da Vinci would most certainly perform very poorly on PISA tests today.

Plus, the welfare state and affirmative action naturally increases PISA scores even within low IQ populations, in the same way a poorly managed education system will naturally decrease PISA scores even within high IQ populations. IQ tests are still the most reliable method for measuring human intelligence because they don't require specific knowledge in specific fields of study. A genius raised by wolves in a forest would still score high on IQ tests regardless of his academic condition, in the same way a cretin raised in a first world nation enjoying all the benefits his government can provide will still score low on IQ tests regardless of his superior environment condition.

>>70296551

>>70304100

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>>70302248
>I love working

>>70303994
see, you quote people like Lynn who unlike you do think that PISA scores do have a very high correlation with IQ. in which case Portugal in 2015 was apparently "pretty smart"

otherwise, we need representative IQ tests done today and we don't have those so either way you seem to be making an argument that goes beyond the strength of your data

>>70304407
How can PISA scores be a reliable method to measure human intelligence when, as I mentioned above, a genius from the 15th century, or any innate genius who didn't have access to modern quality education per se, would inevitably perform poorly on PISA tests regardless of his/her intellectual output. And you don't have to go that far to know there is a fair share of geniuses among the poor, uneducated people.

PISA scores would be a reliable method to measure human intelligence if the whole world shared the exact same education system and culture. IQ tests don't require any of that.

The fact that Portugal performs decently well on PISA doesn't prove anything at all other than the fact that they have a decent education system, because as some of you know, Portugal also has "the smartest prostitutes in the world", because even though they do have a great portion of their population with a college degree, they "have no jobs", or, to be precise, they don't have enough jobs available for those college graduates who refuse to become an average working class citizen, with a college degree.

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>>70304407

>>70305468
look, I'm not arguing it is. but your source for the Portuguese IQ does think so (which is why in his later books, he started modifying his IQ estimates based on student assessment data - not just PISA but TIMSS etc too). so Portugal in 2015 was apparently just about as "smart" as say the UK and "smarter" than say Austria or Iceland

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>>70296805
SO
YOU BE SAYN
WE
ARYANZ
N
SHIT?

>>70302666

Leonardo Da Vinci would most certainly perform very poorly on PISA tests today.

No he wouldn't lmao

>>70305835
he's talking about prespective, Da Vinci's knowledge wouldn't be enough to have a +1 level in PISA test in modern age, even though in his time, his knowledge and intelect would allow him to atain 100% score easely (since he's an adult an all)

>>70297488
but so did spain

>>70296004
ok someone has to fucking tell me how the fuck does noway have a huge gdp

>>70309660
They are white, and about as uncucked a you can be in Norther Europe.

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>even worst korea which was a africa/india tier shithole with no resources or whites developed in only 60 years
>moortugal can't even be first world even tho it's populated with white people who had a vast colonial empire for resources for centuries and US marshall plan aid.
Pol btfo?

>>70309660
>>70309714
Oil money you silly billies

>>70309660
They are pretty much the only European country with proper oil.

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>>70296004
Portugal is Moor as fuck and is not much Iberian.

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>>70309968
I got 27 problems but not being Iber is not one.

Maybe it's because they have had relatively long time of peace and pretty good climate so they won't bother to advance better? I mean there is nothing that forces them.

Not even gonna joke with this.

Lisbon.

We should have burned everything from Coimbra down.

>>70313594
>bumping this thread with such a shitty reply

>>70310187
Your data implies your're genetically closer to portugal

>>70313698
>Shitty


You think I'm joking then, when the country has soviet tier centralization since the 1700's?

Which was the time the country started to decli-

Whoops. What a coincidence.
Lisboners still think Lisbon is something when it has worse quality of life that at least (that I know) 3 or 4 Northern cities.


It has been caught up by capitals from countries that joined the EU in the 2000's. Fuck off.

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>>70296004
Marschal plan: WRONG
EU since 86: That's what put us in such high debt to begin with
After the 1974 revolution, socialist traitors started to rule our country and fucked it up

>>70314320
BRAGA CARALHO!

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>>70314320
I don't speak fake spanish

this map wasn't posted in the thread, what a surprise