> Trump wins the American presidency > People who live

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America has so much power in the world that people all over the world are effected by our government.

>>70239260
Lügenpresse can do astounding things with the minds of stupid.

Its just uni students and single mothers who would otherwise have nothing to do

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>Lügenpresse can do astounding things with the minds of stupid.

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>>70239260
>>70239279
People realize how irresponsible Americans are with their own Democracy and are kindly reminding us of it.

>mfw Nov. 9 happened

>>70239260
They are all funded and organized by soros and his ilk. Here and overseas.

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>>70239279
lmao are these Indochinks? Malaychinks?

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>>70239315
But he's right my meme-frog electing friend

>>70239260
I'd grab the qt on the right by the pussy.

>>70239356
It's from Hong Kong.

Apparently it's supposed to show "solidarity" but it's just another way to virtue signal to their Facebook friends.

>>70239365
Lügenpresse is a term from Nazi propaganda. He's still an edgelord.

>>70239369
The right flag looks like some sort of Indo or Malay speak

If trump is a premature ejaculator we should call him "two pump chump trump"

No different than the mobs of protesters when we invaded Iraq, almost all of them in countries thousands of miles away from there and which could not imaginably have been affected by the invasion.

>>70239394
The rest of the posters are in Chinese.

>>70239423
Indonesia and M'laysia have plenty of chinks

>>70239507
It's from Hong Kong. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/11/13/hkfp-lens-lawmaker-and-kim-jong-un-lookalike-lead-hong-kong-protest-against-donald-trump/

>>70239389
>Lügenpresse is a term from Nazi propaganda.

Yes, the German Language was used by the Nazis.

>>70239573
We aren't speaking German right now. If we wanted to avoid the Nazi context, he could have just said "lying press".

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>an army of sub-100-IQ autists unabashedly shill for their Grapefruit-in-Chief every single day because he will <insert trademarked campaign slogan>
>Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize and bombs more countries than Bush, also leads to the greatest humanitarian crisis since WWII; spied on Americans and European allies, suppressed more whistleblowers than any previous president, but still loved by millions around the world
>hundreds of thousands of women stage a march because their corrupt black-souled cunt didn't win; she was also responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians, and the untold misery thrust upon millions of women and children but they're still "With Her™"

Can someone explain this plz.

>>70239610
Don't look for logic in these "people".

It doesn't matter if the majority is in favour of someone.

Trump is a billionaire and 70 years old, he's the ONLY president to be downgrading his living standards by becoming President.

>>70239260
Because the rest of the world is fucking stupid

>>70239260
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canadians-turned-away-at-border-1.3943996

>Be French
>Travel to Canada to protest American President
>Get told to fuck off at the border

>>70239610
You guys elected Trudeau.

>>70239751
Not him but what does that have to do with anything?

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Maybe they want to vote?

>>70239767
My point is that if anyone here gave a shit about canadian politics we'd be just as mystified with your choices as you are with ours.

>>70239793
You're a world power country with the strongest economy in the world, though.

We're just some irrelevant little country only known for being to the North of the most powerful nation on earth... and being pretty safe and having Universal healthcare and Marijuana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70hIxu4WCmM
They have no chances agaisnt B*ne.

>>70239751
And he has a lot less blood on his hands, and fortunately his shills mostly stay on Memebook and Twitter.

But that brings up an interesting point, since a lot of his most outspoken detractors aren't even Canadian, which brings us back to OP's point as well.

>>70239750
It's a real shame that everyone seem to think it's their right to come into America and do as they please

>>70239793
Trudeau getting elected is no big mystery.

Harper was pissing everyone off with how much of a Yank he was and women decided Trudeau was cute so they all voted for him and told everyone on Reddit to vote for him so they did and now he's PM.

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>>70239823
sounds more like california than canada

>>70239860
It's a real shame America thinks it can dictate what every other country in the world does as it pleases.

You fuckers should have stayed isolationist instead of pushing this globalism bullshit.

>>70239860
B-B-B-BUT U COLONIALIZED N SHITTTT

>>70239315

who is this volksverraeter

>>70239751
The Canadian PM is appointed and not elected, so not technically true.

>>70239888
To be fair, any country would turn away anybody who openly admits they are coming to protest.

When Trump visits Canada, if any Americans decide to come over to protest, and border security gets even a whiff of their intentions, they'll be turned away as well.

>>70239914
really?

>>70239823
>You're a world power country with the strongest economy in the world, though.
And? People have been cracking wise about Americans being stupid, uncouth and violent for literal centuries at this point. Why are you all suddenly surprised by us being angry and jingoistic?

>>70239864
>Trudeau getting elected is no big mystery.
Neither is Trump getting elected, if you weren't the MSM and didn't live in an ivory tower.

>>70239914
>The Canadian PM is appointed and not elected
Close enough.

>guy spends his whole campaign saying "the rest of the world can fuck off"
>the rest of the world gets offended
SHOCKER

>>70239946
Those people cracking jokes about Americans are clearly joking. Look at the actual approval ratings of the US around the world, most of the world loves us. There's no reason to be angry.

>>70239946
>People have been cracking wise about Americans being stupid, uncouth and violent for literal centuries at this point

Success breeds jealousy.

If you're pissing off the majority of people - more often than not it means you're doing something right. Reminder that even the most beloved US presidents get about 50% approval ratings on average.

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>>70239888
thats what we are trying to do now you fuckwit

>>70239941
The governor-general appoints and dismisses the PM, so he's not actually elected by the people, although the GG generally will appoint/dismiss him based on the opinion of the House of Commons. There are no age/citizenship requirements to be the Canadian PM, which means an illegal immigrant 15 year old from Guatemala could be PM.

>>70239260
>Trump wins the American presidency
>People who live in other countries celebrate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-7mZUp9pA

>>70239982
>>guy spends his whole campaign saying "the rest of the world can fuck off"
>>the rest of the world gets offended
>SHOCKER

Isn't that what the rest of the world wanted for a long time?

For America to be more isolationist?

President comes around and says "Okay we're going to leave everyone alone and focus on making our own nation great, as well as fixing our relations with our biggest economic and political rivals" and people get maD?

In fairness your politics spurs on ours because our money is tied to yours also your leftists tend to plant ideas in ours.

to add insult to injury our leftist media is parrorting yours and out tv is uniroically only showing majority american shows and video games.

it is very hard to get away from american infulance and we are no masters of uncucking our selves and your infulance

>>70240048
wtf i love india now

I like your people more and more everyday, Pajeet. You're not evil People.

>>70240053
Pat Buchanan finally won and it only took him 25 years to do it.

>>70240064
You never had any culture of your own, kiwi. Before WWII and Americanization, your culture was basically British.

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>>70240053
>President comes around and says "Okay we're going to leave everyone alone and focus on making our own nation great, as well as fixing our relations with our biggest economic and political rivals" and people get maD?

"I am the walrus"

>>70240119
100% agree.

>>70239992
After years of fucking shit up for everyone; especially Canada.

>>70240095
Almost. Trump isn't going to alter the traditional Israelophile stance of the GOP while Buchanan was secretly of Nazi.

>>70240048
Indians have always been bro tier. I've only used the poo meme on you once because there was a really good opportunity.

thx india

>>70240186
They're the most successful immigrants by far. I actually like India now

>>70239336
Triggered much?

>>70240053
>President comes around and says "Okay we're going to leave everyone alone and focus on making our own nation great, as well as fixing our relations with our biggest economic and political rivals" and people get maD?
That's not what Trump said though. It was more along the lines of
>the rest of the world is taking advantage of us! We're not really going to leave them alone, we're going to tell them to fuck off if they don't put us first! Fuck Europe! Fuck China!

>>70240222
He wasn't wrong though

>>70240186
India is far away enough from the civilized world that only their educated middle class emigrates. If they were next door to Europe the way the Middle East is, it would be totally different.

>>70240233
The rest of the world invests a billion dollars a day into the US. And why would anybody make deals with us if they have to put America first instead of trying to be mutually beneficial?

>>70240164
Yeah, I'm sure Iraq got to see the good side of the US, unlike Canada

>>70240053
>Isn't that what the rest of the world wanted for a long time?
No, because the rest of the world knows how bad it will get once we actually do fuck off. You think the Middle East is bad now? Wait until the US no longer chooses to support Israel, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia and things will really start to go to shit.

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>>70240164
so maybe we shouldnt go isolationist afterall?

>>70240291
They'll miss you then :)

>>70239260
Just the other side of foreign trump supporters. Don't really understand why non Americans care so much.

>>70240095
This populist, anti-globalist sentiment that led to Trump was in the political waters for a very long time. Buchanan and Perot's campaigns in '92 were the first outward manifestation of it, and that was even before Clinton had signed NAFTA. Lee Iaccoca was saying almost the same things as Trump as far back as the 80s. It disappeared for a while in the late 90s-early 2000s (when a booming economy and then everyone being more worried about Mudslimes took center stage), but resurfaced in 08 with Ron Paul's campaign.

>left claims russia influenced elections
bad!
>left protests across the world to influence elections
good!

really gets the old noggin joggin

>>70240262
>And why would anybody make deals with us
Because the US has a fuckhuge economy and market? Trump could shit in a box and mail it to the leaders of multiple countries, ultimately they're not just going to go 'fuck it' and not invest in the US all of a sudden.

>>70240410
>left claims Trump is a Russia dickrider and appeaser
>left claims Trump is a bellicose warmonger out to ruin the excellent, bro-tier US-Russian relations Obama created

>>70240435
This isn't the 90's anymore, America has competition now. Countries can tell the US to fuck off and get investments from other countries. The US became so prosperous because we realized that you get more with honey than you do with vinegar.

>>70240452
Literally nobody said that.

>>70240410
There's a difference between state actors trying to influence politics behind the scenes, and regular citizens voicing their opinion out in the open.

>>70240484
>This isn't the 90's anymore, America has competition now
From China, which itself depends on the US economy doing well
>Countries can tell the US to fuck off and get investments from other countries
Then they also suffer as a result of telling the US to fuck off. Market forces are all interconnected.

>>70240504
ah yes but the one is a lie and the other is a truth

>>70239336
How can you be irresponsible with a democracy?

>>70240552
Not voting for the 'right' candidate.

>>70240530
>From China, which itself depends on the US economy doing well
We alienated them first. Relations are going south no matter what China does, so they might as well be anti US to try and gain influence with other countries that have been alienated by the US. China is already forming closer ties with Mexico.

>>70240545
>the US intelligence agencies all lied

>>70240582
>US intelligence agencies never lie

>>70240394
It's funny that many conservative commentators like Rush Limbaugh used to laugh at Pat Buchanan back in the 90s and they all thought NAFTA was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now, 20-25 years later, when Trump has almost the same exact ideology, they worship the fucking ground that he walks on.

>>70240582
>so they might as well be anti US to try and gain influence with other countries that have been alienated by the US

Any country that allies with China is probably an irrelevant Third World shitpile.

>>70240582
>We alienated them first.
We haven't done anything yet. China depends on the US dollar doing well so that the US can take on more debt, which helps their own economy do well.
>so they might as well be anti US to try and gain influence with other countries that have been alienated by the US
They already do that regardless of the US alienating or not.

>>70240164
But the only thing keeping your economy propped up is our oil money. What is this meme? How are we fucking over Canada?

>>70240601
Where is your evidence that they lied? There's been plenty of evidence that Russia tried to influence the election released to the public, like the phishing attack coming from a Russian IP.

>>70240582
>>the US intelligence agencies all lied
Wouldn't be the first time.

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Aussies are BANTZ MASTERS

>>70240632
Tried to, or succeeded? Also, source.

>>70240607
People change with time, the country in 1994 had not been put through extremis by Obama.

>>70239279
>No islamophobia
Into the trash.

>>70240601
Its not like all the heads got together in a room to corroborate a lie. The CIA does what it wants though. Never know if they are being truthful or not. I want to work there and make my way up though, definitely a lot of power to be had in a position of authority in the CIA

>>70240619
>Pride goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
There's a lot of potential in third world "shitholes". In 1990, emerging markets made up 1/3 of global GDP. Today, they make up half of it. Our companies would like access to half of the worlds market in terms of purchasing power. Alienating those countries isn't going to work out well for us, especially when they won't always be third world shitholes.

>>70240629
>We haven't done anything yet.
But we've threatened to do a lot. China hasn't done anything yet either, so I think they're waiting for the US to act.

>They already do that regardless of the US alienating or not.
But they become more pro US the more pro China we are.

>>70240643
Where is your evidence that they lied, that isn't just you don't like what they said?

>>70240632
yes because an actual attack from russia would definitely come from a russian ip
the russians are THAT stupid
so stupid in fact that they attacked without masking where they were from!
where is my evidence that they lied? in the past, in the myriad of declassified documents
you may sift through them at your leisure and you will find yourself many a fun time

>>70240646
I don't like trump but I enjoyed this.

>>70240689
>you may sift through them at your leisure and you will find yourself many a fun time
I've read a lot about the CIA in the past, normally they're opposed by congress or the NSA or someone in the US government, it's odd that nobody but the president is saying they're lying now...

>>70240688
>especially when they won't always be third world shitholes

History, culture, and geography have pretty much predetermined what countries will be successful and which ones won't.

>>70240053
Some of our peronist politicians have actually praised some of Trump's policies. And taking into account that it's the biggest party we have, it's quite the thing to say.
Other than that, our media just regurgitates everything the American media says, and since the American media is biased against Trump, or at least the big name ones, that's what they tell us.

>>70240721
Then why is their GDP growing so fast?

>>70240717
oh no plenty of people have said and do say that they lie, it's just that they've always been written off as nut jobs

you are very silly by not thinking that trump being the president does not affect another country

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>American anons will continue to suck Quebec's dick

Kek

The left has become a cult.
This is their insane religion.
Their main support base is hysterical women.

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>>70240763
Hysterical you say?

>>70240731
>India
>per capita GDP of $1500
>China
>per capita GDP of $6300
>Nigeria
>per capita GDP of $3000
>Cambodia
>per capita GDP of $1000
>Ecuador
>per capita GDP of $6000
>Mauritania
>per capita GDP of $1060
>Ethiopia
>per capita GDP of $505

Yeah, no. Poor shitholes are poor.

>>70240662
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/intelligence-report-putin-election/index.html
>inb4 CNN
It contains the actual CIA report in it, you can ignore everything CNN says.

>>70240785
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYZvB6TM7dw

>>70240758
To be fair it's either Americans hating on it or loving it

>>70240775
>#freepalestain
wew

>>70240802
Now look at were they were in the past. And a lot of poor people put together have a lot of purchasing power.

Why do you NOT want their money? Why do you hate these people who did nothing to you personally?

>>70240802
Now mirror it with said GDP ten years in the past, and do the same for the already developed countries.
You'll see that developing ones grow in a year what developed ones took 5. That said, developing countries usually lag behind the more developed they are. Kind of a logarithmic growth.

>>70240826
>Now look at were they were in the past
I'm pretty sure all of those countries were dirt-shit poor 40 years ago as well.
>And a lot of poor people put together have a lot of purchasing power
Do you even understand rudimentary economics? One million dirt farmers in Africa who have no electricity or indoor plumbing are not going to buy a Mercedes or a 60" TV.
>Why do you NOT want their money?
Can't want something that doesn't exist.

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>>70240826
It's mathematically impossible for the third world to reach the living standards/energy consumption of people living in the first world. This is especially true in Africa where they're still breeding like rabbits. Their population explosion is condemning them into poverty.

>>70240775
>that one free palestine

kek

>>70240860
And it's another episode of "Argentina fashions themselves the experts on who is developed and First World". :^)

>>70240758
>America was never great

Quebec knows what's up

>>70240881
I didn't even include the "first world" expression on my reply, lad. But please, feel free to disprove me

>>70240867
>It's mathematically impossible for the third world to reach the living standards/energy consumption of people living in the first world

It's possible only by reducing the living standards of developed nations. As an example, the US controlled half the world's wealth after WWII because Europe and Japan were in ruins. That postwar boom we enjoyed came at others' expense.

>>70239394
It's Indonesian
>komunitas
an indonesian word.

>>70239507
and fuck you for spelling M'laysia.

>>70240895
Has there ever really been a country that can be called 'great' in the first place?

>>70240864
>I'm pretty sure all of those countries were dirt-shit poor 40 years ago as well.
Wow, really intellectual terms you're using. I'm sure you've been researching this for a long time and have a nuanced understanding of the issue.

They were A LOT poorer 40 years ago.

>Do you even understand rudimentary economics? One million dirt farmers in Africa who have no electricity or indoor plumbing are not going to buy a Mercedes or a 60" TV.
Nobody farms dirt. They farm crops. And urbanization is quickly increasing the amount of Africans who have electricity and indoor plumbing. The US also doesn't just sell Mercedes and 60" TVs. We sell cheaper products, that Africans do consume. Why do you want to cut jobs for Americans who would manufacture those goods and services?

>Can't want something that doesn't exist.
Where is your business degree? How did you become such an expert on what a good investment is and isn't?

>>70240867
It's a good thing we become more efficient with our resources every day, and people become more productive because of technology. They aren't breeding like rabbits in Africa, their birthrate is decreasing. The population is growing because they aren't dying as early, because they have raised their own living standards. They raised their own living standards by becoming more productive.

>>70240958
Great Britain

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>>70240941
Chinks hide always behind Anglo flags.

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>>70240965
>"""Great""" Britain
Not even decent desu

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>>70240965
>"""""Great Britain

>>70239260
>People are so used to American Presidents interfaring into the personal matters of other Sovereign nations, that few retarded Chimps living outside of America thinks that POTUS means is literally the President of the rest of the free world.

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>>70240962
>And urbanization is quickly increasing the amount of Africans who have electricity and indoor plumbing

That's real developed and I'm totally sure this place has an HDTV and a jacuzzi in it.

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>>70240912
>It's possible only by reducing the living standards of developed nations
I'm talking about energy consumption specifically. American living standards depend on a certain rate of oil consumption (this includes oil used in the production of plastics and the oil used to power the container ships that carry goods), natural gas consumption, uranium consumption, etc. We are already taking these resources out of the ground at the fastest rates that are economically feasible.

>>70241014
>the US is known for manufacturing exclusively german cars, 60" TVs, and jacuzzis

lmao diversify, retards haahhahaha

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>>70241014
Why are you so hostile to these people? What did they do to you?

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Potential Porsche customers much? :^)

>>70241047
>>70241014
No but the president and his family/cronies will gladly buy them.

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>>70240962
>They aren't breeding like rabbits in Africa, their birthrate is decreasing.
I posted the fertility rates. The European migrant crisis is caused by overpopulation. The main sources of migrants in Europe (outside of actual warzones) are areas of overpopulation like sub-Sahara and Afghanistan which is currently still experiencing a baby boom (see previous map).

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>>70241047
Porsche isn't even an American company.

>>70241046
They're competing for the same resources as you. If the roles were reversed they wouldn't care about *you*, unless you're Tutsi.

>>70241076
And I never claimed it was.

>>70241041
Countries that go bankrupt and default on their currency once every decade are not the best source of economic advice.

>>70241068
The average Italian woman used to have 8 children. The birthrate is still dropping in Africa. The faster their economies develop, the faster their birthrates drop. If the US shuns these countries, their economies will develop slower. Why do you want that?

>>70241100
But this is a discussion about how the rest of the world benefits America. We don't benefit from the selling of Porshes. I do not understand your point. Now will you please explain why you are so hostile?

>>70240053
>>>guy spends his whole campaign saying "the rest of the world can fuck off"
>>>the rest of the world gets offended
>>SHOCKER
>
>Isn't that what the rest of the world wanted for a long time?
>
>For America to be more isolationist?

They just want a reason to complain about America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yky4QtRX_DI

>>70241097
The economy is not a zero sum game. When someone else is rich, they can drive up demand for the goods and services I benefit from being sold. If they are poor, they can't do that.

>If the roles were reversed they wouldn't care about *you*
Even if that were true, being the bigger man is a virtue.

>>70241111
are you trying to tell me that the American economy is diveersified enough so that local companies can actually, non ironically supply stuff that developing countries might need? madness!

>>70241122
Africa will always be backwards and poor because of the history/culture/geography reasons I mentioned. The factors that allowed European civilization to dominate the globe simply do not exist there.

>>70241165
Well thats not what most experts think. I'm going to side with actual economists and anthropologists over random shitposters.

Any time I hear the phrase "emerging markets", it sounds like some column in the Wall Street Journal written by a pointy-headed Harvard professor who's never had a real job.

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>>70241122
>Why do you want that?
Where did I say I want them to do anything? All I'm saying that the world is competing for finite resources and Africa will never reach western standards. It's more likely the living standards in the west will eventually worsen. In the US, real wages have been stagnant since the 70s.

>>70239260
Because they're fucking idiots

>>70241204
BRICS was flimflam, except for China. And China is a Frankestein's monster, giving its irrational real estate market.

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>the (1) american with iq in the triple digits is trying to enlighten his friends
>gets shit on

You guys deserve everything you get

>>70241180
>Well thats not what most experts think

And what "experts" are those? Africa is hot, it's not in a favorable location to participate in global trade, it doesn't have good agricultural potential, the people have no real entrepreneurial spirit, corruption is endemic, governments are chronically unstable. Need I go on?

European countries built plenty of infrastructure under colonialism, it all fell apart afterwards because Africans can't run anything. China is trying it again, but those who do not learn history are condemned to repeat it.

>>70241213
>Where did I say I want them to do anything?
When you implied it was a zero sum game. The logical conclusion of the economy being a zero sum game is that you don't want other countries to develop, because they'll take resources that could be yours.

Resources are not finite. We're starting to mine near earth asteroids and exploring further into the solar system.

>All I'm saying that the world is competing for finite resources and Africa will never reach western standards.
Any peer reviewed sources for this?

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>>70241246
Who are you talking about?

>>70241245
BRICS is just a like a money laundering sham but for countries. Russia, China and India have their own agendas, Brazil and South Africa are too irrelevant.

Its just a sham to show the middle finger to world bank and US dollar.

>>70241245
China's per capita GDP is only $6300. While it's wealthier than it was 30 years ago, overall at least 75-80% of Chinese have Third World living standards.

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>>70241294
Im talking itt

You guys are too cynical for your own good, where china see potential you only see shitholes

You've lost the will to lead

>>70241282
>We're starting to mine near earth asteroids and exploring further into the solar system.

Opinions discarded.
Sorry future boy, the rest of us have to live current reality.

>>70241282
>Resources are not finite. We're starting to mine near earth asteroids and exploring further into the solar system.
Yeah I'm definitely following this crackpot line of thinking. Which peer reviewed journal predicts economic feasibility in space mining in this century?

>Any peer reviewed sources for this?
Point me to peer reviewed sources that claim Africa will reach western standards.

>>70241319
>Its just a sham to show the middle finger to world bank and US dollar

Mostly because the countries involved have some past grievance with Europe over colonialism.

>>70241330
>where china see potential you only see shitholes

Africans managed to fuck up everything Europeans built during the colonial era, what makes you think China would have any better luck with that.

>>70241270
>Africa is hot
So is Arizona. Arizona is nice.

>it's not in a favorable location to participate in global trade
Shipping over the ocean is super fucking cheap. And Africa is close to Europe, North and South America, and Asia. India too, and they're going to be a super power soon so they'll benefit a lot from trade with them.

>it doesn't have good agricultural potential
I don't know enough about this to comment on that.

>the people have no real entrepreneurial spirit
Peer reviewed sources please.

>corruption is endemic
But the situation is getting better as more countries are becoming democratic.

>governments are chronically unstable
The situation is improving, partially because the US is doing what it can to encourage stability and democracy via trade incentives.

>European countries built plenty of infrastructure under colonialism
They built infrastructure intended to extract wealth for the benefit of the colonizer. Africans had little monetary incentive to maintain it. It was literally quicker to send a telegram from Benin to France than from Benin to Nigeria because of this.

>>70241330
>You've lost the will to lead
*The will to exploit.

>>70241326
That's true. I also don't think they can burn energy per capita at the same rate as the west without dragging down everybody with them in terms of energy prices.

Their oil consumption is lower still:
>>70241038

>>70241348
>with Europe over colonialism.
Its not about that, its more about US being a massive dick and after committing thousands of war crimes itself becoming the World Moral Police and forcing UN to put sanctions on almost everybody except Saudi Arabia. No offense.

>>70241367
https://youtu.be/4Q2aznfmcYU

>mfw (0) countries in africa have this opinion on western nations

>>70241333
There are already 3 companies getting investment by the millions, oriented to prospecting and start with asteroid mining. And even if they weren't, implying that resources are limited is simply incorrect. We might not start doing that tomorrow or next year, but in the near future it's a real possiblitiy. Stop with the fallacies.

>>70241343
>Which peer reviewed journal predicts economic feasibility in space mining in this century?
How would you conduct a scientific study about that? People are actually investing millions of dollars into this today. I think that's a good sign.

>Point me to peer reviewed sources that claim Africa will reach western standards.
The burden of proof is on you since you made the claim first.

>>70241371
>So is Arizona. Arizona is nice.
Arizona is 1/100th the size of Africa and it also requires very expensive infrastructure to be inhabitable to anything but rattlesnakes and coyotes. There's a reason hardly anyone lived there before WWII.
>They built infrastructure intended to extract wealth for the benefit of the colonizer. Africans had little monetary incentive to maintain it
Arabs didn't trash the oil infrastructure that Western companies built. Not an excuse.

>>70241429
>Arizona is 1/100th the size of Africa and it also requires very expensive infrastructure to be inhabitable to anything but rattlesnakes and coyotes.
Our cost of living is pretty low, thank you very much.

>There's a reason hardly anyone lived there before WWII.
Yeah, air conditioning was invented. Now it's not a big deal.

>Arabs didn't trash the oil infrastructure that Western companies built.
Neither did Africans. They kept what was useful to them.

>>70241391
>Its not about that, its more about US being a massive dick and after committing thousands of war crimes itself becoming the World Moral Police and forcing UN to put sanctions

You just said exactly the same thing I said, pooinloo.

>countries that have some past grievance over colonialism

>>70241408
>>70241333
Tbqfh artificially produced near perfect gold and diamond is way more profitable and feasible than asteroid mining.

>>70241398
>we dicksuck whatever country gives us money (in this case China)
Duh? No Western countries will invest there because past experience. China has not yet learned their lesson, but they will.

>>70241408
>There are already 3 companies getting investment by the millions
I'm not investing in those companies. There are a lot of poor investment ideas. You're not thinking of the staggering amount of energy we're using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ZG7qg1dko

>>70241481
>No Western countries will invest there because past experience.
China is the largest individual investor in Africa, but western countries put together invest more in Africa than China does.

>>70241408
>a real possiblitiy

Yeah and maybe we'll figure out how to open up a wormhole and actually be able to get somewhere.
The world doesn't run on future possibilities that can't be counted on.
Everyone thought we'd have flying cars by now and be entering a mini-ice age.

>>70241461
>artificially produced gold
what
Besides, asteroids are almost perfectly pure on their elements. Forming planets dividing them through density and forming strata and then desintegrating and all of that.
Someone told me there are a few asteroids already identified, having more (precios metal I don't reacall) than there's in the entirety of the Earth.

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>>70241509
Dont tell him that, africa is a lost cause,pls pull out

>>70241423
>People are actually investing millions of dollars into this today.

There are people investing in all sorts of shit hoping it will pay off big for them one day but that doesn't mean it will or that it will any time soon.

>>70239260
It's very simple, there's people outside the US who don't like Trump and they want him to know.

>>70241423
> People are actually investing millions of dollars into this today. I think that's a good sign.
People also invested in tulips back in the 17th century.
>you made the claim first.
My claim is based on evidence not argumentum ad verecundiam. I already posted oil consumption maps. Africa consumes oil at a rate 50-100x less per capita than western countries. You cannot increase oil extraction so that sub-Sahara matches Canada.

>>70241515
People also calculated that if population growth kept up in New York, there'd be so many horses that people would be up to their ankles in horse shit. Then the car was invented.

>>70241371
>Shipping over the ocean is super fucking cheap. And Africa is close to Europe, North and South America, and Asia

Africa has more landlocked countries than anywhere but Central Asia. Most of Africa's major rivers (for example the Congo River) are also not useful for navigation or shipping goods down. The climate and poor agricultural potential of the continent resulted in Africans generally being adverse to risk-taking.

Another factor is that the place is swarming with dangerous wildlife. For example, a herd of elephants can decimate a farmer's entire crop and you can't exactly drive them away. More likely they'll drive you away.

>>70241486
>>70241515

Think this:
>shitholes develop
>demand for precious resources goes through the roof
>the price for them increases drastically
>bringing a bunch of rocks from space now profitable

And freighter ships are also quite efficient per kg transported btw. If oil prices go up after shitholes start demanding it, companies will probably just cover them with solar panels, or even reactors and keep on working that way.

>>70241534
You are forgetting the cost of a sophisticated space mission and the huge distance to travel with a very very slow speed. Unless we design something can survive many space flights and can travel way to fast than we already can its worthless.

It costed 1 billion dollars to NASA to extract and bring 60 grams of gold.

>>70241563
>My claim is based on evidence
Yet when asked for peer reviewed evidence that Africa is incapable of raising its living standards, you refuse. We're already moving away from fossil fuels. current oil consumption levels alone do not prove that Africa will be dirt poor in 500 years.

>>70241576
>Africa has more landlocked countries than anywhere but Central Asia.
Switzerland is landlocked and they're not that poor.

>Another factor is that the place is swarming with dangerous wildlife.
So is Australia and North America.

>For example, a herd of elephants can decimate a farmer's entire crop and you can't exactly drive them away. More likely they'll drive you away.
If a wall can keep Mexicans out of America, they can keep elephants out of a few acres of land.

>>70240970
fuck hairy fanny gommies!!! REEEEEE

>>70241544
China is a resource consumer. They need a foothold there. China is also not a rational investor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcyYyyaPz84

>>70241624
>So is Australia and North America

Big problem with that. Humans originally evolved _in_ Africa, which means all the local fauna evolved to see us as threats, so they're quite hostile and dangerous, which is not the case with European fauna which evolved in the absence of humans. For example, it was not a problem to tame the horse, the zebra is totally untamable.

And then tropical diseases, which also evolved with humans, are a major factor as well. Sickle cell anemia, a malady the black race is prone to, was apparently an evolutionary means of protection from malaria, but an unreliable one that can backfire and kill you.

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>>70241682
>building infrastructure doesnt make them a rational investor

>>70241624
>peer reviewed evidence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
I'm giving you direct evidence. I asked you for your own authority since you believe this is the rule of this game.
>500 years.
Why not set the target to 1 billion years?

>>70241682
>China is also not a rational investor

All investment is part of the CCP's overarching planning mechanism, so it's based on arbitrary quotas rather than market demand.

>>70241723
An empty condo building is not infrastructure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure

>>70241670
>hairy fanny

Were you the anon explaining that in /asean/ yesterday?

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>>70239260
lefty cucks and lardass cunts can feel important for a few hours

>>70239260
>Can someone explain this plz
Most of the liberals in the world are culturally coslmopolitan (ie American)

>>70241602
There have been studies about that already. That's why companies (one of Google's director is the founder of one, iirc) and Governments are seriously investing millions. See this bitch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1943_Anteros

Estimated to have raw resources worth 5 trillion dollars. Taking into account realistic costs with modern technology, the final worth would be 1 trillion. Quite profitable

>>70241751
>railroads, ports and communication systems are not infrastructure

This is fucking weird. The thread started off as an argument about Trump, and now we're arguing about economic development in Africa and asteroid mining and shit. I've had enough of this autism, goodnight.

>>70241702
I'm just going to have to leave it at that, none of us are convincing the other to change their mind.

>>70241724
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

>I'm giving you direct evidence
Shitty evidence.

>Why not set the target to 1 billion years?
You said they'll never be developed, so I could have said one billion years. It doesn't matter.

Africans are also notoriously sexually promiscuous and do not have a strong belief in a family structure, because the harshness of life meant that many children died before reaching adulthood, and it was an advantage to have large litters of children. As for the lack of a family structure, the tropical soil in Africa is thin and easy for women to plow, a man was not as necessary to have around for performing heavy-duty farming tasks like in Europe where the soils are thicker.

Blacks in America are still like this, they believe in pump-and-dump and kids being raised by single mothers, because of the cultural baggage their ancestors brought over here.

>>70241724
I think he's asking for papers that claim Africa can't raise it's living standards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

>>70241813
But the black birthrate in the US is really close to the white birthrate, and single motherhood wasn't a big deal until the 60s.

>>70241800
I did not make the fallacy fallacy. I just pointed out that you require me to give you an argument from authority which itself is not a good move in the game.

>You said they'll never be developed, so I could have said one billion years. It doesn't matter.
Yes it matters. I was thinking of this century. I a billion years even the continents will shift significantly.

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>>70241789
>The struggle is real

Indeed, her yogapants are struggling to hold all that fat in check.

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>>70241789
>that bulge

>>70241846
>I was thinking of this century.
Oh fuck off, you never specified that in the begining.

>>70241814
I did not make the fallacy fallacy. I just pointed out that he required me to give you an argument from authority which itself is not a good move in the game.

>>70241839
>but the black birthrate in the US is really close to the white birthrate

It's called contraceptives, ding-dong.

>>70241864
How can you seriously argue about human activities 500 years into the future?

>>70239279
oh my gawd its happening at my home turf too fug

>>70241780
Investing in millions doesn't mean its really a legit thing, most startups gets thoroughly researched and are funded in million and yet fail.

Gold is only valuable until countries are still keeping gold reverses, when Gold becomes irrelevant nobody will be waiting for their gold for 4-5 years per trip to get their gold from an Asteroid.

Also, Platinum is the most meme metal, it sells overpriced and when you try to resell Platinum jewelry, it sells at the price of steel.

>>70241868
>give you
*give him

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>>70241879
White women have more sex than black women with black partners.

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>>70240452
Nice strawman faggot

>>70241883
>How can you seriously argue about human activities 500 years into the future?
I don't know, you were the one who used the word "never", which included 500 years in the future.

>>70241868
We can disregard literally every peer reviewed paper just because "they claim they're right because they're an authority" then.
Besides, aren't most modern papers published anonymously nowadays, just for that very reason?

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>>70241929
I'm so sorry.

>>70240053
>Isn't that what the rest of the world wanted for a long time?
>For America to be more isolationist?
No they just want us to gibs and never take. To continue funding all of your degenrate welfare states by propping up NATO and taking all of the backlash when someone has to do some actual dirty work.

>>70241942
>aren't most modern papers published anonymously nowadays
Really? Papers are peer reviewed anonymously. I published papers and reviewed papers (not in economics or geopolitics though) and it's the reviewer who is anonymous.

>>70241897
Eh, my point is that, if poor countries develop and demand rare elements, we can still go and get them, especially since the price for them would go up with demand, but costs would roughly stay the same or go down with future improvement on space exploration. Resource scarcity won't stop development.

also
>Platinum jewelry
Isn't most of the platinum used nowadays for industrial scale chemistry? also >(((jew)))elry

>>70239260
just a bunch of expats and exchange students, hence why all the signs are in english. the turn out for the foreign protests was fuck all as well.

>>70241790
The example I linked to was about ghost cities which are filled with empty condos.

>>70241758
You got me.

>>70241702
>Humans originally evolved _in_ Africa

After early humans migrated out of Africa, the white race evolved in the high latitudes of Europe with less direct sunlight. Although Siberians and Inuit are of the Mongoloid race, they have only inhabited the sub-Arctic for about 10,000 years, not long enough for evolution to catch up. The Mongoloid (ie. Asian) race probably evolved in Central Asia, as their epicanthic eye folds are thought to have been a featured evolved to protect their eyes from a sandy environment.

>>70242028
Explain this meme to me, Chinks don't trim pubic and ass hairs?

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>>70242014
Tell me how this is more profitable
>Gold was synthesized from mercury by neutron bombardment in 1941, but the isotopes of gold produced were all radioactive.[12] In 1924, a Japanese physicist, Hantaro Nagaoka, accomplished the same feat.
>Gold can currently be manufactured in a nuclear reactor by the irradiation of either platinum or mercury.
>Only the mercury isotope 196Hg, which occurs with a frequency of 0.15% in natural mercury, can be converted to gold by slow neutron capture, and following electron capture, decay into gold's only stable isotope, 197Au. >When other mercury isotopes are irradiated with slow neutrons, they also undergo neutron capture, but either convert into each other or beta decay into the thallium isotopes 203Tl and 205Tl.

Also, Platinum is only worthy for its industrial use and in the production of surgical equipment

>>70241702
>Humans originally evolved _in_ Africa, which means all the local fauna evolved to see us as threats, so they're quite hostile and dangerous, which is not the case with European fauna which evolved in the absence of humans. For example, it was not a problem to tame the horse, the zebra is totally untamable.

Partially true, but Africa also has more large predators than any other continent, which meant that animals evolved to have a more aggressive temperament than than fauna elsewhere.

>>70242061
>meme
not meme at all, it's the truth.
Shaving is haram in truly chink culture because god of rich will hate them and considered as bad luck.
>just like you can't sweep the floor during new year.
I'm not making shit up because it was told by chink classmates and teachers that I've met irl. They don't wash their bum with water, just a few good, dry toilet paper and smear the dry shit all over the underwear and buttocks. Not to mention the "pieces" entangled to the hairy clams and butt. They never tell you this if you don't ask them directly with a straight face. When other asi(e)an use water to wash bum, they use rewash cotton towel and toilet paper.

>>70242126
Oh, yeah, I remember reading about gold synthesis. It apparently the cost for it was far above the market price. However this only reinforces my point:

>have expensive method to extract/synthesize rare elements
>developing countries start increasingly demanding them
>prices go up
>that alchemy witchcraft now turns profitable
>no more scarcity

Capitalism, literally creating gold out of radiation. Either that, or find the next best substitute.

>>70242181
You might be surprised to learn Canada and the USA don't typically use bidets either.

>>70241270
>it doesn't have good agricultural potential

Tropical/subtropical areas in general aren't good for farming compared to temperate regions. I live in Georgia and I can tell you, the agricultural productivity of the Deep South is lousy compared to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Maryland, etc. The summer weather down here is brutal on most plants.

Mississippi and Louisiana are a little better due to being well-watered, but in general the South is a poor place for producing food.

>>70242254
>not using the best way to clean your ass

maybe it's the developed world that should take some notes on how developing countries are doing :^)

>>70242273
>but in general the South is a poor place for producing food.
But it is a good place for producing lumber. A lot of tree farms are in the south.

>>70242254
I do my part to preach the virtues of bidet.
You can get one for your toilet for like $40 bucks on Amazon and enjoy a clean happy anus future.

One reason for the higher intelligence of Europeans and Asians vis-a-vis Africans may be that we cross-bred with Neanderthals and Denisovans and gained an extra genetic advantage from it. It could be that the black African represents humankind in a more pure, ancestral (read: dumb) form.

>>70242325
I used one in Europe and I gotta say we are missing out.

>>70241270
>doesn't have good agricultural potential

Check Israel. They supply something like 90% of their food demands, quite similar to most big scale agricultural countries, since there are stuff like chocolate and coffee that will only grow on certain regions. And half their territory is desert with little drinkable water

>>70239260
Thy're fucking retarded

>>70242409
>>70242052
>>70241702
Australia's wildlife differs a lot more from African wildlife than European fauna does, and didn't evolve around humans either, yet aborigines were totally unable to develop any civilization before European contact.

>>70242522
I think it has more to do with the fact that Europeans and Asians lived in temperate climates and probably interbred with Neanderthals. Africans and Australian aborigines did not.

>>70242559
Aboriginals DO have neanderthal admixture though.

Let's look at Australia:

1. There's no large predators there because the aborigines quickly hunted them to extinction. The last ones were wiped out more than 10,000 years ago.
2. No large herbivores like elephants or wildebeests to devastate crops
3. No disease issues

Yet, aborigines still remained way more backwards than even Africans.

It would appear that after humans moved north out of Africa, they went to central Eurasia. At some point, the white and East Asian races split off from each other (probably 22,000 years ago). Some of the Asians then crossed into the Americas and became the ancestors of Amerindians. Other whites and Asians went back south and settled in India and China.

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>>70239260
communications revolution
most covered election campaign in history
all over tv/internet

>>70242465
>>70241221

but mostly this

The ancient Egyptians considered the black peoples to the south of them a different race, and most Egyptian art shows them as being fair-featured and having reddish-brown hair. Although they did not look exactly like Europeans, they were also definitely not black and their facial features were closer to the white race.

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>>70242781
Ancient Egyptians are something of a mystery, perhaps some offshoot of the Semitic peoples or a group descended from some African population, but in any case they were definitely not of the same race as black Africans and their genetic pool was largely inundated by invasions, which is why modern Egyptians are basically just Arabs with probably little to no connection with Ahmenhotep and Ramesses.

>>70242254
Bidets are very common in Muslim countries where you are not allowed to use toilet paper, only your left hand. This is what the Malay is neglecting to inform you.

>>70241813
My family came here from Ghana and I don't know what countries those are, but in Ghana people are _very_ family oriented and conservative. Women are expected to be faithful to their husband and are disgraced if they're not.

>>70242872
Yeah I knew that, I also knew Muslim countries have this intense autism about toilet procedures because it's in their religion.

>>70242865
>Ancient Egyptians are something of a mystery
The drawings they left behind and the genetic evidence suggests ancient Egyptians looked pretty much exactly the same as modern Egyptians. The only way this "changed" was when Egypt's borders expanded, like today they legitimately do have a black minority in the south. Those people identify as Egyptian.

>>70242865
>A survey cited by Kemp (2005) pooled ancient Egyptian crania spanning all time periods found that the ancient Egyptian population clustered closest to modern Egyptians

Egyptians are not Arabs

>>70242273
Here's the trick. Most grain crops such as wheat and barley are indigenous to Eurasia and the Middle East. It was easy for agriculture to start there. Unfortunately, Africa lacks crops suitable for large scale cultivation. They mostly lived on beans and yams which aren't so good for that.

Europe and the Middle East had barley and wheat, East Asia had rice and millet, and Mesoamericans had corn. But Africans had no cereal crops, nor can you grow them there thanks to the climate.

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>>70243055
>Africa lacks crops suitable for large scale cultivation.
>Sorghum
>Millet

>>70239260
>>70239610
>>70239666

This >>70239337


Major contributors to MoveOn.org during the 2004 election cycle included financier George Soros who gave US$1.46 million to MoveOn.org Voter Fund; Peter B. Lewis, chief executive of the Progressive Corp., who gave US$500,000 to MoveOn.org Voter Fund.[29]

Fox News criticized the organization after it successfully encouraged the 2008 Democratic presidential candidates not to attend two debates sponsored by the network. Fox News advisor David Rhodes and the network's commentators Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly have also made accusations that MoveOn.org "owns" the Democratic Party and George Soros owns MoveOn.org.[32][33]

>>70243055
And Australia was even worse as far as food crops. The aboriginals were just hunter gatherers and never attempted farming at all.

The reason why Mesoamerica developed advanced cultures and other Amerindians didn't can again be traced to the food supply. They had corn in Mexico and potatoes in the Andes.

>>70242944
Is it true that most Africans live together and have kids before formally getting married because there's a tradition where if you get divorced, the father gets to keep the children, but if you separate before getting married, the mother keeps the children? I heard that's true for Gabon and the same source said it was common in much of Africa.

>>70239336
Which is weird because Hillary was saber-rattling. Trump effects internal politics if anything.

>>70243109
Now factor in the drought-prone African climate and rampaging large animals eating your crops.

>>70243130
man, they fuck there as rabbits because they believe bein virgin would bring you aids...

>>70243055
Rhodesia was doing okay in the sense of self sustaining agriculturaly. Ironically, both the Soviets and the West came together to fuck them in the ass

>>70242719
Mot of the megafauna in Australia and New Zealand were avians like the dreaded emu, but their demise coincided with the arrival of humans.

>>70243171
>drought-prone African climate
>What is West Africa

Nikka u trippin

>>70243200
>Rhodesia was doing okay in the sense of self sustaining agricultural
Thank you, white settlers.
>Ironically, both the Soviets and the West came together to fuck them in the ass
This was also true, because the West supported decolonialism and the Soviets because they told the Africans that whites were the exploiter class and to drive them off the land.

>>70243200
>Rhodesia was doing okay in the sense of self sustaining agriculturaly.
All the productive land went to the whites, the land blacks lived on was at like 3 times the carrying capacity under white rule. Even if white rule was still in place, Rhodesia couldn't have fed everybody.

>>70243229
And the diseases and elephant stampedes?

>>70243217
Wait, so Maori could kill off the Emus but white Australians couldn't?

>>70243282
>>70243171
>>70243229
>>70243109
Africa does not have good soils for the most part. Nobody seems to have mentioned that.

>>70242865
Accounts of Greek and Roman writers indicate ancient Egyptians as being swarthy, but not at all negroid.

Yeah the lack of domesticable animals was definitely a problem for Africans, because all the fauna there evolved to see humans as a competitor/predator/prey species. Result: Zebras, elephants, wildebeests, hippos, all extremely fierce and totally un-tameable. Europeans and Asians meanwhile domesticated the large herds of horses and camels in Eurasia, which became beasts of burden.

The horse and camel actually originated in the Americas, then crossed the Bering Straits into Eurasia, and eventually some of them found their way to Africa to evolve into the zebra. However, they vanished from the Americas due to hunting from humans and climate changes. The llama and alpaca are the two surviving American relatives of the camel.

>>70243335
According to the UN Food and Agriculture organization, you need 0.5 hectares to feed one person with a fairly good quality diet. About 7 times less if they go with a strict vegetarian diet.
And according to this paper:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J064v10n04_07
16% of the African continent has high quality soils. Assuming you use modern techniques, like the Israelis do, or the ones the ICRISAT promotes, you can feed two thirds of the population of Africa already. And also feed a little more people with the other 80% of the land.

That paper also says it; the few countries that practice agriculture are taking no input from developed nations on that sense. Africa definitely has lots of room for improvement and development

>>70240126
Trump said he want to lead the world and that it will do it only with america first in mind.
Isn't like basically declaring a cold war on everybody else?

>>70241763
>that pic

Fully descended into self-parody at this point

>>70239260
>some of these countries are lead by women

I don't understand it either. But I do want them all to die.

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>>70241763
>larger

>>70246111
did you see the Dublin one?
https://youtu.be/9U9VRKL_iBI

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>>70239260
Marxist brainwashing + virtue signaling for social media good boy points.

>>70240410
>>70240452
>Democratic Party
>left wing
waht

>>70239260
NOT MY PRESIDENT

>>70239260
>taking Belgians opinion seriously
Lmao

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>>70240048

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Just leaving this here