How long do you think it takes for Ukraine to reach non-Africa

>>69992044
They need to be part of the European Union first

>>69992217
HAHA

haha belarus btfo

>>69992044
eastern yurop will probably always be a decade behind western yurop

>>69992044
200 years using linear projection.

Is Ukraine that bad?

>>69992044
We will reach European level of well-being in 5 years.
But Europe should stop developing for 5 years.

never
the way the west works makes it sure you cant catch up
wealth is not infinite, resources not infinite
you buy cheap and sell for alot
we produce for cheap and sell for cheap

the leftover are tossed down here and turns into growth (ppl are yapping about 5% being HUGE but its actually very very tiny, considering the west is still growing slowly and the gap is huge)

so never ever, because thats not in the interest of the west

>>69992591
Yes.

>>69992044
Nth for Croatian regional power

>>69992747
I believe in you though

>>69992740
Replace 5 with 50 and it would be plausible. Ukrainian conflict is a big set back too.

>>69993643
Shit man 6 years ago our economy has been growing faster than Chinese.
Now we're doing worse than some Africans
I wish I was born in Far North Canada or Norway

>>69993714
Faster in relative speaking, in absolute numbers China was way ahead. Low base effect.

>>69993830
It still was a way better than what we have now.

>>69992457
>decade
century*

>>69993866
That was due to oil prices. We had nothing to do with this.

>>69992044
like 5-10 years more?

>>69992044
It is better than Africa.

>>69992044
The EU is specifically designed for the north-western part to be rich, and the rest dependent on it.

>>69993916
Will Poland surpass Germany in 5-10 years?

>>69994625
if Germany dies becouse of the muslims than sure

>>69994660
Why do you need mudslimes to drag them down?

Are Poles inferior to Germans?

>>69992044
>UK
>GBP goes down
>Wages in € go up

Well done

>>69995959
I think the same exchange rate is used in both figures or countries with different currencies would jump all around the board. Turkish Lira also tanked 20% last year.

>>69992747
Thank you for understanding

>>69993941
Barely desu

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>>69992044
why is eastern europe so europoor

Never, Ukraine is lost.

People are leaving, economy is primitive. If we finish Nord Stream, they will lose 2 $ bln every year, it will be a catastrophe.

>>69992044
Fake

Spain isnt a rich country

>>69997292
Not by western standards but its still pretty good

>>69997205
economy of slovakia is actually quite strong, but wages remain low anyway

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>mfw Europe is seen as a wealthy and prosperous continent yet 2/3rd of the continent is dirt poor

Really makes me think

>>69992044
I WISH I WAS BORN IN SWITZERLAND

>>69999051
I more meant the reds, Slovakias not so bad

>>69992044
Never because Ukraine doesn't have the institutions necessary, and ukrainians don't possess a mentality where they have faith in each other or care about grander, collective causes.

>>69999171
More like one third. Western Europe has much higher population density.

>>69999237
It's still funny. Our GDP per capita is at 80% of the EU average while wages are at 30%.

Hooray for privatisation, impotent trade unions, ''business friendly'' labour law, regressive tax rate and tax cuts for corporations.

Invisible hand of the free market will surely solve this. The freer the market, the freer the people.

>Turkey is more rich than most of the balkans

>>69999496
How agrarian is Slovakia? When ~40% of your labour force brings in 2% of your GDP that will mess with stats. Farmers on tiny plots don't make a lot of money. US is ~2% agrarian for example.

>>70000507
>agrarian

It's similar here. About 2-3% of our workforce is in agriculture.

Most people are employed in the industry and then services.

>>70000507
Btw those farmers on tiny plots were gone by the 1950s with forced collectivisation.

I inagine it's the same in the whole Eastern bloc.

>>69992591
No.

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>>69992591
It's actually even worse.
Since veterinary inspection is dysfunctional african swine fever virus is getting on rampage there.
Sanitary conditions and medicine are degradating almost on daily basis so it's just a question of time for some human disease epidemy to kick in.

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>>69997205
One reason is that they're disproportionately agrarian still and farms are small and inefficient.

>>70000742
>I inagine it's the same in the whole Eastern bloc.
Poland is one exception at least as far as collectivization goes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Poland

>About 2-3% of our workforce is in agriculture.
http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Europe/Slovakia-AGRICULTURE.html

According to this it's 8.9 percent of the labor force.

>>70002868
>8.9
Sorry that's from *1994.

>>69992044
>ukraine

no such thing

>>69992747
>you cant catch up

what is diminishing returns on capital

>>70002868
Truth be told, many of our small plot farmers are "farmers". They just take advantage of tax cuts and a separate pension system for agricultural workers and their families. Plenty work other jobs illegally and are farmers only on paper because the father of the house owns a tiny plot.

>>69992044
I don't think it's economically possible for the whole world to be Western Europe in wealth and well-being. So maybe never.

>>70004154
Stop with this shitty meme

>>70002868
Our agriculture was weakened after we joined the EU. Slovak farmers couldn't compete with Polish products in terms of price and quantity.

>>70000283
Balkans are subhumans

>>70004706
>a meme

>>70004386
That's weird.
>Plenty work other jobs illegally
That would affect stats as well.

>>70005355
watch you filthy mouth

>>70006177
Prove me wrong first

>>70006577
we would be super-advanced if it wasn't for the war in 90s

problem is animosity between all neighbouring countries on Balkans, this is what drags us down, you must understand

>>70001908
And it's all because of you

>>69992286
You didn't btfo anyone

I can't even see you on the map

>tfw BigMac is less than 2 usd in Ukraine

>>69992044

The fuck. How are we still so fucking poor even after 10 years in the EU? Same as the rest Balkan shitholes not in the EU.

Fuck the EU t.b.h.

>>69999051
why?

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>>70010487
>tfw 2.15$

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>>70011286

Always looking for something for nothing and for people to blame is why eastern europe will always be a shithole.

Should have pulled yourself up by your bootstraps like we did

>>70011315
>>69999496

>>70011647
>Should have pulled yourself up by your bootstraps like we did

lol

>>70011286
I don't get it either. It seems all the crying about the salary cartels between local and foreign companies is spot on. We are destined by the west to be "cheap labour force". I know people who work in the province and claim that the salaries/bonuses/rules are essentially the same in different industrial companies. To me it seemed unlikely at first, because I live in "good-wage" bubble, but... this pic is heartbraking.

>>70011696
seems like the same thing happens in poland too. and it's starting to happen more and more in the west as well

>>70011640
Well buhuu

>>69992044
>in terms of wealth and well-being
NO! We like poverty and hate freedom.

>>70007163
>we would be super-advanced if it wasn't for the war in 90s
Kek, no you wouldn't be. Look at Slovenia, it's nothing special today even though we had no war and we were the most developed part of Yugoslavia.

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>>69997205
Pic related

Anyone who says otherwise is a sl*v

>>70012952
>>>/pol/

>>70013238
My sl*v o'meter just went off the charts

>>69993714
>Far North Canada
Why do you want to be surrounded by nothingness and drunk/violent Native Americans

>>69992740
>5

being a bit optimistic there

>>70005781
upvoted

>>70010102
>American education
See that thing east of Russia? The 314 Euro one? That's Kazakhstan

>>69992044
Hopefully never. I like cheap holidays

>>69992044
>Ukraine or any of east europe
>African tier
Ukraine's GDP per capita is $8000-$13000, Moldova is the place you looking for.
Also, the society is way better than West Europe and obviously Africa/Mid East because it is >97% European.
This garbage fake map is skewed and invalid automatically because minimum wages exist as laws to inflate figures.

>>69992044
No

>>69997205
Wage supression

>>70019101
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