How long are the Germans supposed to live with war guilt? Can't

except we've literally never done anything wrong

>>69961575
Don't u ever forget the 6 trillion joos.

>>69961575
They don't have to live with war guilt. Germans just realized that nationalism is extremely destructive.

They shouldn't feel any war guilt and more and more are waking up to this fact. The holocaust had nothing to do with the war.

>>69961785
>Germans just realized that nationalism is extremely destructive.
The German states were a joke until unified under a nationstate, becoming one of the strongest state in Europe

>>69961684
One could argue that the Bulgarians exploited the weakness of the Byzantine Empire and took lands that didn't rightfully belong to them.

oy vey bad goy detected, NEVER forget the 66 trillion

>>69961879
one will NOT argue, because such facts are based on nothing but speculation and are deemed as false under such pretense

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>>69962004
hmm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bulgarian_Empire#Establishing_a_firm_foothold_in_the_Balkans

>>69961874
Nationalism in the 19th century was a progressive force.

I don't think 1848 revolutionaries would like to see how it ended up.

>>69962060
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bulgarian_Empire#Establishing_a_firm_foothold_in_the_Balkans

oh, you mean rightful clay?

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>>69962167
Bulgarian is a made up ethnicity; they're just Slavs under a different name

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bulgarian_Empire#Formation_of_the_Bulgarian_ethnicity

Therefore, they had no rightful clay; they took everything by conquest.

>>69962229
rightful conquest, rightful clay

I really don't see an issue here

>>69961575
According to the late former chancellor Helmut Schmidt, for the rest of the 21st and maybe even the 22ns century.

>>69962303
I'm just playing devil's advocate. I believe in right of the conqueror. My point is that everyone has done something in history that wronged someone else and for that reason, there's no point in holding past events over anyone's heads.

They need to give up their habit of seeking to dominate the rest of Europe first full.

>>69962342
except for that one was done 13 centuries ago and the other not even a 100 years ago
people will hold grudges for no reason really, much like how I wish death upon every stink t*rk there is

>>69962529
You tried fucking over Macedonians and Serbs.

>>69961575
>live with war guilt
Forever till they go extinct

>>69962594
literal whos and backstabbers

>>69962672
That's what the Germans said about Jews.

Hm. Hm.

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>>69962713

>>69962713
different ideologies, though

one is about the "clean" race of people and the other is mere territorial claims

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>>69961575
They have to return all the clay they have stolen

>>69961575
I certainly hope you're not trying to imply that a crime unique in history like the shoah could ever be forgiven, Goy.

>>69961575

TAUSENDJÄHRIGES REICH=A THOUSAND YEARS OF GUILT

>>69961575
>How long are the Germans supposed to live with war guilt?
Until there is another war and they won it, you know WW2 is the only major war that forms current world order

>>69961575
Latin America is still butthurt about something we've done (mostly good but let's not get into this again) 40 years ago. And we didn't gas millions. Just helped them throw their commies off the planes. And they hate us more than, say, Russia hates Germany (actually they don't at all).

>>69961575
we have never done anything

Name one thing america has done wrong. We are literally good guy: the country

>>69963032
That goes for you too then you Asian micropenis. Way to shit on your allies. And it makes no sense that Germany should have any guilt since the people who went to war with them aka white Americans aren't even mad at them anymore.

>>69963618
killed indians

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>>69963705
>aka white Americans aren't even mad at them anymore.
ah yes
totally

>>69963032
Wow what a mistake Germans made allying with you trash.

>>69963845
>liberals
>american

>>69963618
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

>>69963231
usa started a civil war in nicaragua and guatemala that left half a million people killed and ended only in 1996

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>>69963845
30,000 tweets. You know what I loved? This. I think since Japan is guilty for World War 2 you should have 100 more nuclear bombs dropped on you. And China should massacre Japanese people. It's only fair. You lost the war.

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>>69963845

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>>69963845
It's only fair Japan. China has to massacre 8 million Japanese.

>>69963972
>we killed millions in nicaragua
can you be more full of shit?
indios/sandinistas been killing their own people and your numbers are a bit off

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>>69964065
holy shit the edges, they hurt

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>>69963845
Why would you do this shit Japan? You Imperialist bastards. You owe the Chinese everything and if they want to murder millions of you it's totally okay because of what you did to them.

ah, yes

all these random "nukes" and "i bombed you" chants without a hint of any single logical attempt to substantiate the first claim

>white Americans aren't even mad at them anymore.

>>69964223
Shut the fuck up butthurt shit. If Japan was the one who killed millions of Poles and not Germany you would hate the Japanese. Japan has no place to throw stones at Germany. They were literally their allies.

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I really don't think yanks should start talking about war crimes

>>69964360
don't be mean to the poles please

>>69964306
No fool. Make an argument. You said Germany should feel guilty. Do you feel guilty? For the shit that you did in China. Whether the Holocaust happened or not you genocide more Chinese than the Germans did Jews. Where is your guilt you soulless yellow subhuman? Why isn't Japan being flooded with migrants? You need them to fix your demographic crisis. You're lucky to have fucked with the Chinese and not the Jews.

>>69964421
You're just mad cause he's fucking with your boyfriend Abdullah.

>>69964432
I love you, Lëtzebuerg :3

Quite happy that Germany is realistic about their past

Every other country gets autistic about atrocities they have committed (see Armenian Genocide, Boer concentration camps, the Holodomor, anything Japan did in China).

Germany is the only adult country in the room

>>69961575

>How long are the Germans and Japanese and Italians supposed to live with war guilt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5snZTfoEA
Until collapse of universe. Axis got a life sentence on forever for their crimes.

>>69964475
>Do you feel guilty?
yes

>>69964769
And yet it never even happened. That's the shame of it all. Every single camp inspected by the US has been labelled a concentration camp. The only camps still considered "death camps" are the ones that the US never inspected.

>>69963032
Japan is trash country what should be nuked out of existence for war mongering.

>>69964889
Well good. You better continue to feel like shit for the rest of your life you savage monster. Commit seppuku if necessary.

wow this murrican must have had his ass soaked in some acid pool or something

>>69964918
Russia should have to pay for the Ukrainian genocide. You amoral retards.

We've only guilty about losing. Next time for sure.

>>69965009
what are you doing?

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>>69964712
LOL oh fuck you got me :DDD

>>69964891
I'm not even going to bother making the effort of refuting your claim

Fuck off Rorke

>>69965009
Ukraine started genocide Poland and russians too, this is was a of act heaven justice. Also no such a country.

wow jap dick rider

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>>69964918
Do you see what you did Russia? Every single Russian needs to feel guilty and pay for these war crimes for the rest of eternity, And you still are bullying Ukraine. You fucking monsters. You sick savage subhuman beast.

>>69965091
Yeah cause it's the truth. That's why it's illegal for you to question. The truth does not fear investigation. RIP Europe.

>>69965143
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich

This guy did it and he was a Jew.

>>69965009
>Ukraine
>>>/x/

>>69965143
Good guys don't need in apologize heh. Don't judge poor countries.

>>69965054
You probably jerk off to that shit. I know I'm about to.

>>69965197
Don't you have some bath lotion to drink, Ivan?

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>>69965234
Yeah starving helpless people to death for know reason makes you the good guys Communism literally rots the brain.

>>69965301
Russia was starving to death too, what next?

>>69965252
What does that even mean? I'm of German heritage.

>>69965355
tipp: don't use the word heritage when you are och 4chan with an us flag
you are doomed to get >muh heritage'd

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>>69962826
why so modest?
i think the polish übermensch should rule over AT LEAST all of Eurasia, with sizable colonies in Latin-America and Africa

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>>69965244
sometimes

>>69965354
Stalin purged them of all food supplies? And why was Russia starving? I thought your glorious leader was a genius. He should've been able to fix everything. Instead he murdered Ukrainians and then he murdered 50 million Russians. You fucking idiots. Are you stupid? Do you not have any fucking sense? You had it better under the damn Czar. This is why Hitler hated Communism. You bought the Jewish bullshit hook line and sinker. Russians are like drones ready to serve their government overlord. A hivemind. Perfect for communism.

>>69965443
Well I know that but they don't know that and they will never admit to it. Even though Putin did tell Jews to their face that they created the Soviet Union. Russians are still extremely brainwashed. They still believe they live in the Soviet Union.

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>>69965628
And yet you Anglos allied with them because you saw Germans as the bigger problem. I believe what the quote meant to say is mongrel*

>germans are brainwashed to feel ww2 guilt because foreigners told them how to feel about it, they should instead feel about it the way a foreigner thinks they should feel about it, neonazi neckbeardes in particular
really scratches the gray matter

>>69965818
I am a German you fucking idiot. Just like a nigger is a nigger in America and he is a nigger in Africa.

>>69961575
The DIN norm B367, §3 standardizes war guilt to 10 years per million killed, so we still have some time to go.

>>69964135
you dindt kill, of course not since you dont wage your own wars like faggots you are. you pay and give weapons to some noboides and they do the fighting for you, like you do with isis, alqaeda,etc.

this is common knowledge

>>69965876
>heritage fags
I though it was just a stereotype, lmao.

>>69961785
Except they've thrown all sense of pride out the window with nationalism. To the point that they appear almost like a police state where the culture enforces a hatred of any sort of pride in their country.
>>69961684
>Be nomads
>Raid and pillage byzantine and Carpathian lands.
>Most likely rape a good deal too
"We dindu nuffin!"

Almost everyone forgave them, it's the Germans who can't move on.

>>69965969
For fuck sake you idiot. It took 50,000 years for Europeans to diverge from Africans. That should just be erased because we took a boat or a plane across the Ocean? What are a fucking retard? My dna is still German. And I have dna tests to prove it.

>>69966058
Because there are some people on this planet who want whites to be strong and not a bunch of homosexual faggots like the French.

>>69966164
What are you even arguing about?

>>69966104
>muh race, muh genes
typical yankee

>>69966164
Wow rude :/.

>>69966164
not very nice
>>69966104
told you

>>69966223
If your family moved to China they would not be Chinese they would be Bulgarians in China. If the Native Americans were still a large portion of the population you wouldn't consider us both American. That would be ridiculous.

>>69966329
If I was born in China and couldn't speak Bulgarian I would be nothing to my current countrymen.
Blood is worthless if you lack the culture.
Chinks may never except me as their own all the way, but I'd be closer to them than to Bulgarians in the hypothetical scenario.

>>69966551
But the Natives here are dead. And our language is from Europe.

>>69966640
"Europe" isn't a country, "Europe" isn't a culture, you're your own cultural branch and the main reason is because you all can't speak the old tongues.
To speak a language fluently, to read in it and think in it is to understand a culture. People in the US don't read the news in all the languages of Europe, they don't know all the specific cultural changes taking place in every country. They don't even know the first thing about politics in Europe, always resorting to analogies with your own two parties.
Europe is ~30 countries you're one, you're all variants of "american" coast to coast.
You think in races because that's all you have there, in Europe people who are genetically as close as two white Americans consider each other alien, because we have diversity, the real thing.

>>69967171
Blood is blood. You developed that diversity of people over thousands of years. The US has existed for less than 300. Of course we are European. You're white Europeans. And we are white Europeans on a different continent. That's the only difference. Take a German couple to the US, they have a kid, their kid is still a German who just happened to have been born in America. White people are collectively getting shat on and disrespected because of certain agendas by a certain tribe of people. So it is in our interest to reverse that. And unity is helpful in that cause.

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>>69967171
You just have a negative view of white people in the US and that's why you want to distance yourselves from us. But ask yourself how did we end up in this position when we were the most powerful people on Earth. And here is the answer:

>>69961575
Forever.

>>69965904
if we waged our own wars that whole fucking region would be turn to dust and you faggot wouldn't be yapping right now. enjoy your canal, you are welcome.

>>69967408
>go to Germany (mein vaterland :DDDDD)
>can't speak German
>expect to see Vikings and blonde girls in wheat farms
>see normal fucking city and average looking people
>yell at immigrant that was born there and speaks fluent German

>>69971325
Shut the fuck up idiot. What part don't you understand that blood is blood? I have relatives that still live in Germany,

>>69971325
And who the fuck ever thought all Germans are blonde? Germans aren't fucking Swedes.

>>69971325
Africa needs to be white. All white. We need to make Africa entirely white. They will be the new Africans and there won't be any difference since all people are the same. The Germans hate the immigrants. They imported them to work and do menial labor and be an underclass.

>>69961879
fuck off, there is "rightful lands". The only right is the right of conquest.

>>69971595
>>69971644
>>69971740
I can't believe heritagefags are this easy to get upset

>>69972011
I'm not upset. I'm putting you in your place you bitch. Truth hurts you homo. Liberal cocksucker.