>Ludwig ''van'' Beethoven this confuses

i don't get it

>>69932208
flag checks out

>>69932208
>Vincent Van Gogh
>Martin Van Buren
>Ronnie Van Zant
take a guess ameridumb

i prefer sedan to van

>>69932551
van gogh is that french guy who cut off his ear right?
idk the other two.

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ROB VAN DAM

>>69932621
Maybe because in german it's "Von" and not "Van", but I'm not sure either.
Btw Van Gogh is Dutch and not French.

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>>69932621
>don't know one of your own presidents
yep flag checks out

>>69932791
I didn't vote for him #notmypresident

>>69932618
Kek

>>69932621
One was a president of your country

>>69932791
Literally no one cares about him since the only thing he did was preside over the panic of 1837 and he was literally a filler president with four years.

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>Abraham ''van'' Hellsing

>>69932113
He was 1/4th Flemish

>>69932113
>implying he wasn't German
>implying "Dutch" are a nation

>>69932984
>implying he wasn't German
*woosh*

>>69932947
>implying he wasn't Dutch
>implying "Flemish" are a nation

come back when your "father of the fatherland" isn't a German

So Dutch claim Beethoven to be Dutch?
Seems legit, we claim that Marie Curie and Chopin are French :D

>>69933108
>claiming the only famous Pole
That's just low

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>>69932931
>Is Dutch utters German phrases like, "Mein Gott"
wtf is wrong with him

swamp germans

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>>69933210

>>69933167
No one said Copernicus was french ;)

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>>69932551
That's not how those names are written