How shitty are South American laws? I was lurking Brazilian laws

>banned guns are a South American thing
For states that spent most of its history staging rebellions and coup d'etat its only natural
But for Brazil i dunno

>Ivan is still here

Laws are shit all over South and Central America.

>>69888163
Socialist governments must loosen the law in order to facilitate corruption and therefore remain in power.

>>69888443
>For states that spent most of its history staging rebellions
>But for Brazil i dunno
That would only apply to Rio Grande do Sul, which is also unironically the only state in Brazil manufacturing not only firearms but also all sorts of military supplies and equipment.

>>69888163
I don't get the fences meme

what
we're one of the few countries that do have a life sentence

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>>69888654
>That would only apply to Rio Grande do Sul, which is also unironically the only state in Brazil manufacturing not only firearms but also all sorts of military supplies and equipment.
I'm starting to thing someone is falseflagging gauchos

>>69888906
their houses don't have closed gates
not even moats
even a cow could invade their yard and they'd never know it

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is this a bad or average neighbourhood in Uruguay?

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>>69888906

I'm talking about these electrical fences.

>>69889551
That's disgusting

>>69889770
Are you poor that you can't buy a fence to close your property anon? do you leave your dogs run around the street too?

>>69889755
just plain poor.

>>69889835

>Are you poor that you can't buy a fence to close your property anon?

No, I don't need fences. Gopniks aren't this savage yet. And I have a gun.

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>>69889551
>cow

a boar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCnDAPCQqiA

>>69889932
>Gopniks aren't this savage yet
interesting
tell us how many times your house got robbed/squatted on
or perhaps russians are so generous that they let any hobo in?

>>69889971

>tell us how many times your house got robbed

Never.

>>69889932
Criminals here do anything to rob you.
I don't have a gun and don't even want one, because I know that wouldn't work anyways.

>>69890012

Considering you don't have life sentence, so any random criminal could kill you and stay only few years in jail.

>>69889965
cute doggo trying to defend against the boar

btw i was quoting "The 13th Warrior" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuaTt-B-F4k

>fences, walls between garden and street and such
Roman legacy. Not even joking.

Obviously you should have a fence or hedge if there's a lot of people walking by your house

>>69890131

>Roman legacy

>Europe
>fences

You will not find fences even in fucking Ukraine.

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>>69888163

>I guess banned guns are a South American thing.

We have one of the most lax gun laws in the world.

In fact, until 1999 we didn't have gun laws at all.

>>69890067
I don't think our criminals are afraid of dying.
They go for that life because they already know they have no perspective in life and will eventually get killed by other criminals.
Also, our prisons are worse than death.

>>69890174
I didn't know we had gun laws

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>>69890171
It is not a matter of life quality but culture. Pic related.

>>69890192

You don't have life imprisonment either. I've read in wikipedia your maximun penalty is 20 years.

It's like your legislators are saying: please commit crimes, you will not being punished properly.

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>>69888654
>Socialist governments must loosen the law in order to facilitate corruption and therefore remain in power.

>>69890285

But I don't see electric fences and you will never find that in Italy.

>>69889147
Fun fact: other countries have """""life"""""" sentence too, but they're not for life. It's usually 20 to 25 years.

In this country life sentence is really for life

>>69890274

You can go to prison now if you have an unregistered gun.

You have to get a license and there are two kind of licenses: porte and tenencia:

http://www.espectador.com/sociedad/333837/como-se-regula-hoy-la-tenencia-de-armas-en-uruguay

>>69890367
Most that don't have a real life sentence can still lock people up for life. They just have to pick up the case every 20 years or so

>>69890434
>porte and tenencia
owning and handling
de nada

>>69890351
you don't see them? good, if you don't see them the robbers don't either. they'll never know what hit them

>>69890434
Can you guys own handguns?

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>>69889770
Electric fences are usually put around businesses and other valuable property. Most yard fences in Latin America and the United States are merely just metal bars and it's more of a cultural thing than a necessity, because any skinny halfwit would be perfectly able to climb it over with ease.

>>69889932
The fenced yards in Latin America and the USA arose during the colonial times and its main purpose was to keep farm animals and people safe from jaguars (big cats), not criminals, as colonial settlements were usually small and surrounded by untouched wilderness.

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>>69890351
>But I don't see electric fences and you will never find that in Italy.
>never
They are nowhere as common in Latin Europe as in Latin America, but they do exist. Pic related.
inb4 yes, including in urban environment.

>>69890504

T-thanks.

>>69890514

Yes. I think only assault rifles and the like are banned.

>>69889932
>im an autistic faggot with a murder fetish so instead of spending $500 to put up a fence ill just shoot them

This is why there are so many Latin American countries with high violence and homicide rates. The problem is their laws.

Our minimum age of criminal responsibility is just 12, the Japanese one is 14. And you can stay your whole life in prision if you kill some person.

>>69890314
Ou legislators are constantly afraid of being considered dictators.
Our country has suffered a lot under the hands of tyrants, so everyone in politics who wants to impose some kind of power is ethically reproved.

They always feel that their role is to democratize Brazil, because our police is too violent.

>>69890645
gid oud gommie :DD

>>69890678
>be korean browsing /int/
>accidentally click on /s/ and see some big tit thread
>remember that porn is banned
>shit, shit, shit
>get deported to north korea with your long lost family, your uncle kim jong poor who already ate your grandmother because they ran out of dogs
>your brother kills himself after working 37 hours a day

>>69890678
>>69890314
Usually the problem in Latin America isn't in the laws being "too strict" or "too lax", but that they aren't enforced. 5 or 500 years for homicide, does it make any difference if you won't jail the faggot in first place?

>>69890921

I bet Latin American penal codes are the same as in the 20's ~ 50's. Am I right? Your laws are not compatible with your realities.

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>>69891030
you're not reading, are you?
it doesn't matter if the laws are compatible or not,
the problem is that nobody enforces it because the people in power would the the first one in jail

>>69891030

Our penal code is from 1998 and I think it's outdated.

>>69891114
Will you actually get fined for accessing porn?

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>>69890703
>Our country has suffered a lot under the hands of tyrants
*our Marxists have suffered a lot by the hands of tyrants.

The only leader Chimpanzilians often refer to as a dictator is Vargas. No law-abiding citizen ever "suffered" in the hands of Vargas. By the way, those same socialists/Marxists who much sought to remove our prosperous military government must be very proud of what socialists did to Brazil afterwards.

>>69890703
>Ou legislators are constantly afraid of being considered dictators.
>They always feel that their role is to democratize Brazil, because our police is too violent.
Fucks sake, this must be bait. With everything we're currently experiencing with Lava-Jato and their unimaginable attempts to dodge the law by reshaping it at their will, do you seriously believe they're afraid of being labeled dictators when the entire country is already fully aware we're under a criminal ditatorship? Also:

>Brazil
>democracy

Nigga, I...

>>69891166

Prostitutes are better than porn.

>>69890678
>>69891114
Mate shouldn't you be worried about your nutjob president summoning demons or whatever the fuck she does with the weird demon worshipping cult of hers?


>>69891212
>right wingers

>>69891212

Latin American socialists are a joke. I don't know why do you call them socialists. Real socialists would purge your countries from criminality.

Russian socialism is still shit desu.

>>69891030
>>69891114
There's no correlation between how old the penal code is and criminality, see:
Argentina - from 1984
Brazil - from 1940
El Salvador - from 1998

Guess which one is the more dangerous.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_El_Salvador "On April 20, 1998 the new Penal Code was enacted"
http://servicios.infoleg.gob.ar/infolegInternet/anexos/15000-19999/16546/texact.htm
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3digo_Penal_brasileiro_de_1940

Again, as >>69891113 and I said, the problem is that IT. IS. NOT. ENFORCED.
Welcome to Latin America - nothing works here.

It is something common in New World countries colonized by Iberians.

We do not have any experiency in democracy, our governments were most of the time dictatorships and we have no neighbours to look up to. Yes, there is USA but socialism has a firm hold in culture and education down here so most people see them as evil or at least not likeable so our government and the masses won't accept their gun laws (which are amazing tbqh, the whole concept behind the 2A is perfect).

>>69891362
>I don't know why do you call them socialists
me neither desu
the real scientific name would be "populist demagogues", but they insist in being called socialists/democratic liberalists/traditionalists
they're all the same shit no matter what color the toilet vase is

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>>69891362
>Latin American socialists are a joke. I don't know why do you call them socialists. Real socialists would purge your countries from criminality.
Not only in Latin America but the left as a whole today is completely crooked. The original socialists were tough against crime and also valued patriotism and strength through industry and militarization, and they naturally despise religion. The polar opposite of what we have today.

>>69891391

There must be a reason why these laws aren't enforced. Maybe laws created just for more bureaucracy and more impunity.

>>69891686
They are not enforced because of corruption.

As I said in a previous post, we in Latin America don't have experience with democracy or laws, we were born as countries from exploratory colonies, the mindset was bred from taking advantage of others and getting away with petty crimes.

>>69891686
don't quote me, but they were created to comply with foreign investors who wouldn't dare to touch with a stick a country that doesn't minimum has same laws as their country of origin. at least the laws protecting their business
check this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems#Civil_law

>>69891746

If you have too many resources to escape from prison, it's not due to corruption, it's a problem in the law.

>>69889965
Holy shit never saw the entire thing. I heard those things were vicious. A cousin of mine always complains about them killing his dogs in the south and always thought he was just making shit up.

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>>69888163
>he doesn't have fences

>>69891686
There are multiple reasons.

One of them is the corruption >>69891746 mentioned. Another is, that law enforcement is expensive to be done properly - it requires an infrastructure and upkeep most Latin American governments simply don't bother with.

Both together create a vicious circle - law enforcement is expensive > people commit more crimes > corruption raises > law enforcement gets even more expensive.

A third one for larger countries is that laws made with one region in mind are often harmful for other regions. For example, laws against child labour done with Northeast's semi-arid region in mind wrecked small farms in Santa Catarina's countryside, since they're family-based.

>>69891686
>>69891860
It's because of corruption.
Consider that some policeman make deals with criminal to leave certain area free, so the burglers can rob a house or whatever and then they divide up the money, that's how fucked up things are.
So, we all here know that our main problem is corruption, but no one has a clue of how the fuck we can solve this problem.

>>69892050

There is one solution and it's fascism or strong nationalism, maybe even some socialist like Mao.

>>69888654

>the only state in Brazil manufacturing not only firearms but also all sorts of military supplies and equipment.

The bullshit is real.

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>>69892269
>The problem of our corruption is corruption not the lax laws

>Your ethnic kin is this retarded

>>69892269
>>69892414
Didn't mean to quote

>>69892376
>claims to be bs without proving any counterargument
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ind%C3%BAstria_b%C3%A9lica_do_Brasil

Forjas Taurus, Amadeo Rossi and E.R. Amantino are the only firearms manufacturers in Brazil and all of them located in Rio Grande do Sul. RS is in fact the only state in Brazil manufacturing not only firearms but also military supplies and equipment. SP and MG only manufacture ammunition supplies.

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>>69892569

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mectron
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avibras
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_Defesa_e_Seguran%C3%A7a
http://www.gespi.com.br/giro.htm
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ind%C3%BAstria_de_Material_B%C3%A9lico_do_Brasil

Only two aren't based in São José dos Campos.

>>69892269
>There is one solution and it's fascism or strong nationalism, maybe even some socialist like Mao.
Actually this is part of the problem, corruption in Latin America increased a lot under nationalistic military juntas with fascist tendencies - because you'd either would do something in a shady way or you wouldn't.

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>>69888163
>>69891901
he doesn't have electric fences and brick walls

>>69893641
Brick wall and electric fences are the most common thing here

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>>69893767
>>69893641
Oh boy
>they don't live in neighbourhoods with a 1m tall wall

>>69888163
>banned guns are a South American thing
Legal guns are a United States thing.

>>69888443
In Brazil it's the result of socialist practices.
It's pretty evident that a socialist coup was in the agenda of several parties, but it never got around to it (even tho it's pretty close, with the state owning almost all the distribution of resources), so now we just get fucked in the ass by criminals and have no right to self defense.
If you kill a trespasser inside your house in Brazil you better expect to be sentenced for excessive use of self defense and you're going to pay to sustain the criminal's family for the rest of their lives.

>>69892269
> he doesn't know most latin american countries went through fascism, nationalism AND socialism

nothing works here

the primary reason is our economic models are primary not industrialized, jobs are low tier not specialized, the market incentivates corruption more than good behaviour

>>69894144
also because of this, and democracy, the political pandering focuses on petty problems and superficial populism instead of economic reforms. politicians need to get in, make themselves rich in less than 5 years, sell as many resources to foreigners as possible. democracy is a fucking trap

>>69890314
Nobody survives 20 years in a brazilian prison, they don't need more.

>>69889755
maybe avarage in Montevideo

Russian talking about laws :P

>>69893940
>Portugal insists on trying to convince this board that they are not europe's bolivia.
Not fooling anyone negro

>>69894964
>portugal is europe's bolivia
is bolivia that bad?

>>69890921

>usually the problem in Latin America isn't in the laws being "too strict" or "too lax"

T.monkey

Of course. There is nothing wrong with our soft laws.

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>>69890314
just