>"The oppressive standards that american society holds against fat people is of course capitalist in nature, in that it is designed to sell gym subscriptions and the latest dieting fad pushed by the bourgeois. Naturally as we are not only marxists but cultural marxists we must oppose this culture of shaming and create a new one of acceptance."
-Herbert Marcuse
What did e mean by this?
>>69782206
If you don't accept people of larger sizes or treat them differently, then you are a weightist.
this always makes me ponder, what is the official commie position on weight?
on one hand normally you want the comrade to be healthy, with a little sixpack and powerful so that he works a lot and is healthier than the captialist fattie
on the other hand you have idpol shit like this where the most """"opressed"""" always wins, so fatties are to be catered to and somehow it's capitalism's fault for them being outcasts because of their health, despite the socioeconomic nature of communism wouldn't allow great breeding grounds for fat weak losers
>>69782206
Source?
Also
>cultural """"""""marxism"""""""""
If it places culture over material cirqumstances of living, it's not marxism.
>>69783315
>this always makes me ponder, what is the official commie position on weight?
You have to understand that there's a difference between the Old Left (communists, soc-dems, trade unionists) and the New Left, which was born in the 1960s and is opposed to hierarchy and organisation.
My personal position is that people should be fit because a.) it's good for them personally and b.) obesity is a burden for public healthcare system. But I also don't think that mocking fat people for their weight is productive or ethical.
>>69783315
The former.
Modern liberal leftism was born in academia after automatisation destroyed industry jobs and the third sector surpassed the second sector, so there was no more proletariat to recruit and ideologues retreated to universities. Budapest '56 and Prague '68 finished the job of annihilating Communism in the West.
The modern liberal revisionist left is too desperate and clueless to pose a threat to capitalism. So they look for non-causes here and there. Like fat acceptance, otherkin bathrooms, MLP hashtags, whatever - all in the framework of free-market liberal democracy.
t. Pinko longing for another Lenin to put the infantile disorder faggots to the wall
>>69783603
I mean I'm a democratic socialist with some green mixed in. You can't draw a clear distinction between the Old and New Left for most people.
>>69783315
>what is the official commie position on weight?
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. If you're fat you're obviously either not giving to the best of your ability or are getting more than you need, meaning you're a parasite on the glorious socialist system and need to be sent to a gulag.
>>69783726
well the old left would gulag the new left for starters
>>69783979
Old left doesn't isn't just Stalinists.
>>69783315
>what is the official commie position on weight?
A man's body should be balanced and healthy.
>idpol
Not a marxist idea at all. Marxism places classes over identities.
>>69784173
class is identity
thats why they hate rich people so much
>>69784319
>class is identity
No, it isn't. Class is your relation to the means of production and the role in the social organization of the labor. You can't be a capitalist just because you share views with some capitalists and call yourself one.
>>69784173
Show me where did Marx mention the need for a so called vaguard party?
Leninism is also a deviatiom from classical Marxism.
>>69784407
*vanguard
>>69784407
>Show me where did Marx mention the need for a so called vaguard party
How does this relate to the discussed questions?
That's the common sense. People can't achieve any goals without an organization which can structure the goals and targets.
>>69782206
>Fat acceptance is now a communist cause
Why can't these psuedo-communists just debate the distribution of wealth and production means like Marxists are supposed to?
>>69784800
Because western "communists" doesn't care to study the theory.