is this the most fucked up letter in the world? >pronounced

>>69689309
what

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>>69689259
Not this?

>>69689259
>no one can pronounce it outside their first language
That's literally only a problem for native English speakers and Nips

>>69689259
It's H, it's not even pronounced in some languages.

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>he doesn't roll his "R"

you absolute subhumans

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>>69689462

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>>69691759
>can pronounce it although it doesn't exist in my language

Some intellectually normal people will use the guttural R, the other ones will just roll it.

>>69691800
We should, ours is like a shorter version.

>>69690974
None of the germans i have met have been able to roll their R

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>>69689259
No, it's you who is fucked up

>>69691876
feels germanic man

>>69691876
Our r is Anglo r, but i think i read somewhere that we lost the rolled r about 100 years ago, still can do it through.

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>>69691876
>English """people"""

>>69690974
Germans usually can't roll their R's from what I can tell and their R's sound weird when talking English

>>69691903
1. There is literally 2 Germanic country with a throat R majority on that map
2. They got that R because of you guys

>>69692197
>They got that R because of you guys
Explain

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>>69691876
/r/ for G
>see small blue spot in the netherlands
wut? kek, not even suprised

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>>69693158
Scheveningen

>>69692197
Frenched

>>69693419
>Icelandic g is too complicated
wew

>>69693436
Icelandic has like 4 sounds for that letter

>>69689367
New fag

>>69691766
But this is bullshit, J in french is like J in english

>>69691759
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrretard

Я

>>69696150
RARE

>>69689259
ड
Its a very hard D sound

>>69691766

How it is possible that Portuguese and Spanish use "j", but Galician doesn't?

>>69691876
so only some portuguese pronounce it like frogs, intredazting, but I bet most of them live in that area anyway

>>69691766

Also, why Catalonia and Valencia use "j" differently, don't they both talk the same Catalan language?

>>69696196
>Dishon mustard hon hon hon

>>69696196
J in Frog is like Zsh. Je and Jacques sound like Zshuh and Zshack.

>>69696428
uy locadicho

>>69696330
Galician doesn't have a 'j' sound.

>>69696400
Valencia speaks Valenciano which is like a less subhuman Catalan

>>69696466

Why?

>>69689259
>no one can pronounce it outside their first language
Speak for yourselves fucking Yankees

>>69696330
Galician don't have the KH sound, J letter, like in spanish. And portuguese use the J letter for a different sound that doesn't exist in galician.

>>69696466
>>69696572
Bot like in English.
Neither does Castillian.
In Spanish 'j' sounds like the English 'h' and in Galician they use 'x' for the same purpose (just like in old Spanish)

>>69696572
Devoicing, mostly; similar to what happened to Spanish, only less in magnitude. Instead of the portuguese 'j' sound that you would hear, Galician has the 'sh' sound instead, which is represented by 'x', and since 'j' was devoiced, which is now 'x', they replaced 'j' with 'x'.

>>69696428
Bullshit

Jack is english version
Jacques is french version

The J is prononced in the same way

>>69696675
*Not like in English
Damn phone keyboard

>>69689259
>tfw I can't even pronounce it in my first language
Rolling is fucking impossible.

>>69696572
Because instead of KHamon in galician we say SHamon (jamón and xamón respectively). Notice that Don Quijote was written Don Quixote back in the early 17th century because in spanish it was pronounced like SH, and only later it evolved into the KH sound.

>>69696675
No, X in galician is like the english SH.

>>69696695
>Dirty frenchmen actually belive this
>Szhaques

>>69696727
What did happen to your 'J'? Read that it used to sound like Portuguese 'J' then Portuguese 'X', then finally Russian 'X'. I only read that it started in Seville or something, and of course, the over-devoicing, do have other insights for this?

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>mfw trying to roll Rs
>mfw trying to pronounce Icelandic

>>69696768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkjWPz4DNw

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>>69696812
We used to have six sounds that merged into three. It's not yet clear what happend in the 17th century and there are some theories to explain it. If you can into spanish, this woman gives an explanation of the sounds that evolved.

The TH sound (like in think) and the KH sound were developed at the end of that century.

http://morflog.hypotheses.org/272

>>69696695
No. That's not the same sound, You pronounce Jack wrong.

>>69696196
This one post proves Opie right

dumbass frogs mess it up so bad they don't realize they mess it up.

>>69696695
you're thinking of the "sh" sound, "j" is not the same.
most spanish speakers can't tell the difference either.
they think John and Sean are the same name.
the english "j" is apparently a lot harder than it seems.

>>69696695
You pronounce Jack wrong, sandnigger cuck lmao

>>69696913
Muchisímas gracias.

>>69697194
But for the french John and Sean are not all the same

For us it's like "djonne" and "cheunne"

>>69696884
HAHHA he literally can't hear the difference, guys hahah

It's alright, I still can't make a proper French R. My gf gets me to try to say ecureuil all the time and laughs at the sound I produce

>>69697277
I don't give a fuck how you pronounce those names in french, I'm just explaining the difference between the english "sh" and "j" sound.
you're thinking of the "sh" sound when you're supposed to be thinking of "j" one, which apparently you don't know how it even sounds like.

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>>69697497

>>69689259
i can literally pronounce any letter

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>>69697497

>>69697643
Æ

>>69697608
I'm only one of 4 people that told you that you clearly pronounce the english name "Jack" wrong, including another french"""man"""

just saying

>>69697667
Isn't that just the 'a' in 'map'?

>>69697692
more like the letter è in mèp

>>69697497
s + h = ch like in the word shut
it's logical
j = like in judo

The beginning of Shut and Judo are completly different.

I won you lose

>r in chinese pinyin is pronounced like an open mouth j in French

>>69697692
no

>>69697732
dunno how that sounds, but probably no

>>69697608
[d͡ʒ], Jack : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonne_affriquée_palato-alvéolaire_voisée
[ʒ], Jaques : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonne_fricative_palato-alvéolaire_voisée

>>69697766
>s + h = ch
see, you're a fucking idiot, you keep giving me sounds that are not english as an example.
"j like in judo", how am I supposed to know how you retards pronounce that?

you should look it up on your own, fuck off.

>>69697780
my bad it's actually é

>>69697643
try this one then, senpai Ř

>>69689259
Rolling your Rs sounds kanker anyways

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>>69697903
Come at me

https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr#en/fr/judo

>>69697933
How do you pronounce that? And for the Swedes, how the hell do you pronounce 'sj'?

>>69697962
eeeh
imagine the sh sound
but its made of r+zh, basically,
theres probably a better way to describe it..

>>69689259
Comrade, why you write 'Я' wrong way around?

>>69698092
you did it twice yourself before the "Я"

>>69698172
O FUGG

>>69692156
>>69691875
That's weird, I had no problems with any of the spanish pronounciation.

We often put too much emphasizes on the tt and rr in english, so they come off, yeah.

And I think, I only had a handful of good attempts for the japanese "r" before I stopped trying.

>>69698376
most krauts pronounce "d" as a single rolled "r"

fucking disgusting

>>69698438
What d? Any examples?

>>69697914
it's è senpai

>>69696695
hahaha

>>69696695
Jack in English is pronounced "djak" tho

>>69696727
>Notice that Don Quijote was written Don Quixote back in the early 17th century because in spanish it was pronounced like SH,
I always fucking wondered why we called it Dom Quixote when in Spanish it wasn't like that.

>>69697792
>>69696695

>>69697670
>"""man"""

delet

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>pronouncing it like a" w "when it's after a consonant
English language was a mistake

>>69689259
We have two sounds for it in the relevant and factually correct dialect. Nothing annoys me more than a capira with the strongest accent pronouncing all 'r's the same retarded way(sounds close to an English 'r')

>>69698522
I just got this from youtube, don't even know who they are just googled "acento alemán"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js8-QXRbIks

>toro (todo)
>inventaras (inventadas)
>sentiro (sentido)
>vireo (video)
>usteres (ustedes)

and that's just in like the first 20 seconds, I'm not gonna watch the whole thing.

>>69698780
What did he mean by this?
Que voulait-il dire par ceci ?

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>>69698560
oh right, then I was right at first

sometimes I'm so worried to have made a mistake that I correct myself into an error

>>69698996
T'es un pædé

>>69699101
non je manque juste de confiance en moi

>>69697194
>most spanish speakers can't tell the difference either.

that only aplies for argies and u r gays