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Have any Euros watched this documentary? I just watched it with

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Have any Euros watched this documentary? I just watched it with my bud.Michael Moore paints Europe as a very utopian, beautiful place. Is it all hype? What are the flaws he failed to point out?
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>>69642135
Only 25 cm penises.
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>>69642135
The only problem eaurope has is retarded immigration/asylum system. Taxation is pretty bad too but it's not that important
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>>69642196
They get a lot back in taxes, we pay high taxes and don't get much for it.
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>>69642135
He dresses like shit.
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>>69642215
Yeah but there is still tension when you pay that much.
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>>69642215
>we pay high taxes and don't get much for it
No we don't. Compare our tax rate to Sweden's.
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>>69642215
Good point. Michael Moore is still the ultimate fedora-lord
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>>69642135
>Michael Moore paints Europe as a very utopian, beautiful place

That's not to hear Yuropoors on /int/ tell it.
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>makes that documentary
>votes for clinton

madman

you know, I've noticed a real switch up in rhetoric lately. All my leftist friends have been all about how the enlightened west needs to step in and democratize the world.
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MM is a typical grass-is-greener SJW who thinks Yurop is this hippie paradise where everyone walks around naked and has free health care.
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European countries have ridiculously high cost of living, it's crowded, cars and homes are like shoeboxes, and society in some ways is less free than the US. Also chances are pretty high that the country next door wants to genocide you because of butthurt over something that happened 400 years ago.
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>>69642215
IIRC the US has higher corporate taxes but much lower personal taxes.
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>>69643880
>Also chances are pretty high that the country next door wants to genocide you because of butthurt over something that happened 400 years ago.

Yes it's horrible, thankfully they're not in the neighboring neighborhood
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>>69644056
Over here it's just niggers killing niggers because that's what niggers do. :^)
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>>69643651
lol your friends are 20 years late to the neo-con train
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>>69643880
>Also chances are pretty high that the country next door wants to genocide you because of butthurt over something that happened 400 years ago

Fighting over clay is the curse of Europe.
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Upper class in Western Eurpoe is everything you could as for from a country, faggots on this board just dont want how good they have it, Europe is better for 99% of population, if you are exceptional and very ambitious US is better place
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>>69644386
Being rich is great in any country though.
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>>69642135
Michael Moore is a fat holier-than-thou piece of shit who isn't to be trusted
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>>69644442
Like, doesn't he know that Sweden will be a colony of Syria in 30 years?
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>>69644493
He'd love that
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>>69642135
Micheal Moore is a guy who makes some good points, but while going about it he manages to make himself look like the most retarded, and hypocritical douche.
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I watched a clip from it once and noticed he is lying about some countries university. Basically he was saying that the uni is free for American citizens when in fact it wasn't. Only free for either country's or EU citizens - don't remember.
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>>69644734
It's free for American citizens, too, here at least.
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>>69642135
I haven't watched it. But the flaws in Europe are the obvious red tape, weird and unprepared immigration policies, the different languages that creates communication problems and the fear of a creation of a federal state that would be dominated by one culture.
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>>69644969
There is nothing wrong with anglo domination
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>>69642135
he made a good point about Finlands education system but then completely lost me with "Germans are made to feel guilt constantly and we should do that in America."
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> A fucking leash
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>>69642135
Roger and Me was alright, but I'm not a big fan of the rest of his work.
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>>69642135

tbqh those french kids ate like kings

My sister and I both went to different private all girls high schools and we still had to bring our own meals
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No i haven't watched it but i saw some youtube videos by Michael Moor
is this worth watching ?
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>>69645559
no
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>>69645559

it's not bad, not as bad as trumpland
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>>69644056
>Not being able to defend yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Cqc6Beqm8
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>>69645575
but OP's picture says "hilariously funny"
ill watch a few minutes to see whats the fuzz all about
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>>69645694
>Salon
Into le trash
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>>69645100
After the brexit it would probably be more of a gallic/gemanic/slav mix, if the shit isn't going to hit the fan. Any change of anglo domination is gone now.
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america is better
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>jeans and running shoes

why do people do this?
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Moore is a lying fat commie faggot.
He does the same shit in all of his documentaries.
Cubans who fled over here we pissed about his healthcare one where he paints the Cuban system as some kind of utopia by visiting one of the nicest clinics in the country where of course they put on a good show for him.
Also the really nice places in Europe were already nice places before socialism, and a lot of it has been scaled back since the 70s because it was fucking up the economy.
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>>69642135

1) annoying bureaucracy

2) monetary policy not tied to fiscal policy

3) shitty immigration policies

putting that aside, Europe is a fantastic place. Largely free, peaceful, respectful, friendly and varied.
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>>69642215
your military is pretty kick-ass.

Beside we actually pay far higher tax because we get health care, money for unemployement, money to study in college and money for retiree.
All those thing are to be paid with your personal income in the us.
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>>69642135
>Michael Moore paints Europe as a very utopian
>Europe
This alone proves him wrong. Like many uneducated Americans, he thinks of "Europe" as a single, homogenous structure where everything is the same. I doubt any American would willingly move to Poland for example, and good luck getting a job in Spain or France right now. Sweden is nice (if you ignore the cultural enrichment) but good luck paying yourself broke to taxes.

There's a lot wrong with America, but "Europe" is far from paradise.
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>>69642135
Get rid of the immigrations, chop down on taxes a little, a little bit less globalisation and softer gun laws and its literally perfect.
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>>69652674
>Get rid of what makes Europe's economies competitive through lower wages
>Get rid of what finances the welfare system we love to brag about
>A little bit less of what we can't defend ourselves against
>Make it even easier for muzzies to get guns
Europe is a castle built on a pile of shit, friend. Can't get rid of the shit without demolishing the castle.
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>>69642135
i like a good docu but hate MM
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>>69642135
MM is a fucking retard tbqh senpai
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>>69652735
Uh okay, read my post again, maybe ask someone to help you translate it.
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>>69643880
>cars and homes are like shoeboxes

this is only an issue if you're america-tier fat
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>>69652912
>german banter
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>>69652915
>British banter
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>>69642135
>pay for health care for almost 15 years (over €60000, not calculating what my employer plays in addition to that).
>have problems with my eyesight that needs to be taken care of ASAP
>operation methods are outdated here
>modern (actually working) methods are 'too new' and thus not covered
>end up spending almost €6000 for that god damn operation

I will suck every Swiss cock I find to escape this hell hole.
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>>69653778
>have cancer
>get immediately put on experimental medication that is still tested even in the US
>cures me
>im merely a student that hasnt paid a penny into insurance system yet

Its only Austria, Schluchti.
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>>69653915
Fuck you, honestly.
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>>69653996
Maybe your eyes are too abd for you to read the mail from the insurance and you havent paid jack yet?
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If my country were 40% non-European, we would be a shithole too.
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>>69642215
>They get a lot back in taxes
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i watched it today. that norwegian prisional system wouldn't work with those niggers. the crime rate would get higher because they would want to be arrested.
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>>69642135
That it's actually an Islamic shithole
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>>69642135
American Leftists hate everything about what we have and are, and love everything about foreign nations.
There is no bigger culprit of "grass is greener..." mentality.
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>>69661592
American leftists are the fucking worst.
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>>69664125
I'm not even a socialist, I'm even properly anti-socialist, but somehow american leftists come out as both less socialist and more cancerous than their European counterparts.

as of late European leftists might start giving american ones a run for their money, though.
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>>69644046

Which is really stupid and backwards desu, it's just easier to sell to the public.

Ideally we'd have low corporate, low personal, but more sales taxes
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>>69661592
This. They love to fetishize Europe, Canada, and even to an extent Australia and New Zealand.
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I don't watch his shit. I'd prefer a Micheal Bay documentary about Europe. With big explosions in Brussels and Paris.
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>>69642135
Europe is a nice place by all means, but it has some obvious disadvantages:
1. Immigration policy. It's way more difficult to move there than it was 20-30 years ago, but before 80s-90s it was extremely easy. So euros have many ethnic tensions which leads to the rise of retarded right movements. On the other hand, USA has it too, but immigrants in USA are integrated faster so it's not that hot topic in USA.
2) Awful, extremely boring cultures and village mindsets.
3) Many languages. Many people there speak English but to find a job you have to learn a local one.
4) As to 1st point, you would never have a local friends there if you aren't westerner. Russians hang out with Russians for example, sometimes with other immigrants. My friend living in Czechia has Turk, Macedonian and a Colombian as friends.

But cons of Europe are great: hugh level of safety, good salaries, great social benefits, free medicine, many countries have free education.
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>>69666378
>many countries have free education
With zero prestige.
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>>69642135
>not the US
in the trash it goes
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>>69649834
>tfw unemployment is virtually non existent here
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>>69666378
Third world shithole opinions about europe are invalid.
Come back when you have free elections and a president (dictator) who doesn't order hits on his political enemies.
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How come Michael Moore's suddenly reappeared after 8 years?
Really makes ya think...
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>>69642135
Moore is a fat fuck retard. Only fedora tippers actually like him.
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>>69668157
This.
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