How do you Yuropoors get shit done with less than a 40 hour work

>>69504094
They don't.

There's a reason they're so much poorer than Americans.

You'd be surprised at what a country can do if their people are granted a decent/existing social security.

>>69504141
Define poor

>>69504224
They have less money.

>>69504094
I'm baffled that Frenchies get to work 35 hours a week desu. Guess it isn't how long you work but how efficient you're in that time

>>69504284
What are you talking about? GDP pro capita? Median income? Average income?

>>69504382
Im so fucking tired of this shit, and any time you criticize it, they pull out some stats for later 90s, saying we are more efficient than the Germans while working less ours. The people here are so fucking entitled, theyd be ol with having half the country unemployed as long as they keep their social privileges.

work smart is better than working a lot

>>69504582
Please explain how you are able to work less than 32 hours, and give your women almost a paid year off for maternity leave.
Where does this money come from?
Asking for a friend.

>>69504625
Taxes/SocialSecurity

>>69504094
Holy shit. Fuck off.
>defending being a wage cuck for your entire life

>>69504625
>work less than 32 hours
35
>a paid year off for maternity leave
16 weeks
>Where does this money come from?
Chocking the private sector with taxes (although its the small business that are hit the hardest)

>>69504577
All of them desu

Most European countries aren't doing so well economically.

>inb4 but le Lichenstein and Switzerland is balling hard off Jew gold and banking!!!

>>69504740
You're either taking memes too seriously or you're delusional, Switzerland has the second most complex economy in the world. You can't make that up with banking and... gold?

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>>69504740
Dude, Probably half of the european countries do better financially than america.

>>69504740
it's not because of their social welfare and taxes
it's because they mismanaged their money and their crazy regulations

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>>69504740
Poverty and "countries doing well economically" are two different things. Have a look at this, more inequality means more poverty. Take a close look at that graph.

>>69505093
There's obviously a few exceptions, i was just memeing about Switzerland and Lichenstein thing but most aren't doing too well.

>>69505142
>Probably half of the european countries do better financially than america.

>Probably
Doesn't count, they don't factually do better than the US. The US Is the economic powerhouse of the world.

>>69505175
Income inequality doesn't mean anything. The important thing is the standard of living.

Income inequality is not inherently an unjust or bad thing, in any way.

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>>69505255
>The important thing is the standard of living.
Which is loads of higher in say every Nordic country, Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland and so on.

>>69505175
And the poorest people in America live quite nice lives, better than the vast majority of the world.

>>69505343
Those are some, yes but not "most" of the European Union at all.

>>69505255
>Income inequality is not inherently an unjust or bad thing, in any way.
>UN report on income inequality
"Evidence shows that, beyond a certain threshold, inequality harms growth and poverty reduction, the quality of relations in the public and political spheres of life and individuals’ sense of fulfilment and self-worth."

>>69505370
Just how do you consider europe to be? Are you on par with any knowledge?

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp

USA is 10th,
Before it are just European counries excluding NZ and Straya. After USa it's just loads of Eureopan countries once again.

USA, is nothing special and manages it's social economy horribly.

The canadian is either 12y old or the worst troll that i have seen in my life.

>>69505416
>The UN said it so that must mean it's true

People are not equal and so income cannot and should not be equal either.

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>>69505438

>>69505467
>People are not equal
>US Declaration of Indipendence
"All men are created equal"
>kek'd

>>69505442
For real

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>>69505493
I'd rather go with this one. It's the HDI adjusted with Inequality score as in IHDI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI

>>69505546
>A piece of paper written by people said it, that must mean that the Universal Truth of the Universe is set according to it

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>>69505599
Well, yes, if you live in the US.

>>69504094
probably because the vast majority, especially those that work long hours do fuck all with their time at work. Messing around and not doing anything at all doesn't mean your working, even though you get paid.

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Right behind Turkey on the OECD Poverty Rate chart, hell yea

>>69505705
>>69505599

>>69505705
>Poverty being defined as only having a generation behind iPhone instead of the newest iPhone

this is retarded

Half of the world's millionaires live in the United States. How the fuck is the US poorer than Turkey? Does that make ANY sense to you?

The most billionaires live in a US city. but yeah i totally believe the US is doing worse than fucking GREECE AND SPAIN in poverty. Income inequality doesn't mean anything you dumb fag

>>69505705
>A country is worse if my neighborhood has 50x times more than I do, instead of being both equally poor

This is how retarded this """statistic""" is.

Because Turkey has more people poorer and closer together by wealth, they have less poverty than the US. Makes sense i guess

>>69505790
I fucking love finding charts like these (not on Wikipedia, mind you), that made my day.

>>69505859
So you were just pretending to be retarded?

>>69505844
However you may look at it. The poverty rate is the ratio of the number of people (in a given age group) whose income falls below the poverty line; taken as half the median household income of the total population. However, two countries with the same poverty rates may differ in terms of the relative income-level of the poor.

>>69505880
Nah dude, you're the one that's being stubborn here.

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Fika.

Seriously, it's been proven to increase work productivity.

>>69505890
>There is less poverty in Italy, a country with an official unemployment rate of over 22% than in the United States

Can we get an idea of how the average poor lives in Italy compared to the US?

>>69505370
>And the poorest people in America live quite nice lives, better than the vast majority of the world
>better than the vast majority of the world
that's not tough to beat

>>69505935
>get paid twice as much, twice as much productivity
must be those breaks you guys are taking, that's why out government is so productive living the fika life

>>69505950
>Can we get an idea of how the average poor lives in Italy compared to the US?
In a shitty commie block, without meth and crackheads running around and enjoying "free" education and healthcare

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>>69505890
>>69505925
>The US is poorer because there's greater income inequality, even if the baseline is much higher

what did he mean by this

Income inequality is one of the stupidest measures you can bring up, it means absolutely nothing.

this whole thread is retarded...

>>69506047
>In a shitty commie block, without meth and crackheads running around and enjoying "free" education and healthcare

In one of those world-class Italian Universities, I presume?

Literally like 15 out of 20 of the world's top universities are in the US.

>>69506059
Dude, what are you even talking about? Did you read the definition of poverty? Here, give it a read.
>>69505890

>>69506150
Yeah i read it, it's retarded and means nothing.

Don't bring it up because it's stupid.

>>69506088
pretty much

>>69506181
You've made a lot of posts here indeed.

>>69505142
Shut up poor
>>69505597
The average American poor is doing better than the average European middle class

>>69504740
It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. Please just stop.

>>69506200
>high unemployment rates
>Low average household wealth
>Low GDP per capita

Ah yes European Union stronk, AmeriKKKa weak!

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>>69506193
Pfft. Oh boy.

>>69506268
>Letting the inferior fail is wrong and means the country is worse than another country where people are poorer but closer together

ah yes. Turkey has less poverty than the United States because the UN said so.

>>69504577
you still use clothes lines. why are you even asking

>>69506127
>Literally like 15 out of 20 of the world's top universities are in the US.
Good thing that Enrico Fermi migrated to the US, he was a literal retard before he handed over a bag of money and was taught how to build an A-bomb. Those rich people going to universities really do improve the life of poor Americans.

>>69506193
>The average American poor is doing better than the average European middle class
I don't know what an average poor means but those feral poor negros and feral meth using rednecks sure are good 'ol chaps

>>69506329
The threshold is different you stupid leafigger

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>>69505142

>>69506368
>The threshold is different you stupid leafigger

So then does it really matter?

Isn't it kind of arbitrary and totally irrelevant then, wouldn't you agree?

>>69506231
Have you ever been to Europe? Have you read anything beyond what you see on /pol/? You're delusional.

>>69506331
Try reading the posts in right order and you might get a clue

>>69506368
>Those rich people going to universities really do improve the life of poor Americans.

There's this thing called:

a) Scholarships/grants

b) The military (pays a fuck ton and has loads of benefits)

c) Jobcorps/trades (you can enter a trade nearly for free, even make money learning it)

d) Community college for dirt cheap for 2 years then transfer to 4 year school

>>69506434
Yes I've read the things that I've posted in this thread.

I do not use /pol/, but good one,

Which part would you like to dispute? The high unemployment rates in EU countries? The low average household income? The low gdp per capita?

>>69506231
Unemployment is low in most eu countries. 6/10 of the countries with the highest gdp per capita are European. Maybe you're looking at statistics in countries like Poland and bulgaria. If so you're an absolute knob if you think the Bulgarian economy is comparable to most other eu countries economies.

>>69505142
>Probably half of the european countries do better financially than america
Wrong

>>69506539
God bless

>>69504195
>what a country can do
like walk on the moon? or land on mars?
what has your country achieved other than storing nazi's gold?

>>69506520
See
>>69506539
So you haven't been to Europe then. So I can see why you have this delusion. Do you honestly think the average American lives better than the average, say, Frenchman?

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>THe United States GDP is higher than that of...

THE ENTIRE FUCKING EUROPEAN UNION

You CANNOT make this shit up.

>>69506582
>>69505093

>>69506423
No it's not. America is more expensive the nig working for 7$/h is fucked he makes as much as me in a month and life is cheaper here

>>69506471
>a) Scholarships/grants
good luck

>b) The military (pays a fuck ton and has loads of benefits)
just don't get killed by a sand nig and you will be in community college in no time

>c) Jobcorps/trades (you can enter a trade nearly for free, even make money learning it)
This has nothing to do with uni

>d) Community college for dirt cheap for 2 years then transfer to 4 year school
yeah but those are not in the top 20 so they're irrelevant like all universities in Italy and Canada included

>>69506582
here are a few

Several important achievements in particle physics have been made through experiments at CERN. They include:

1973: The discovery of neutral currents in the Gargamelle bubble chamber;[9]
1983: The discovery of W and Z bosons in the UA1 and UA2 experiments;[10]
1989: The determination of the number of light neutrino families at the Large Electron–Positron Collider (LEP) operating on the Z boson peak;
1995: The first creation of antihydrogen atoms in the PS210 experiment;[11]
1999: The discovery of direct CP violation in the NA48 experiment;[12]
2010: The isolation of 38 atoms of antihydrogen;[13]
2011: Maintaining antihydrogen for over 15 minutes;[14]
2012: A boson with mass around 125 GeV/c2 consistent with the long-sought Higgs boson.[15]

>>69506609
If you think that the GDP reflects people's well being you're an idiot.

>>69506594
>Do you honestly think the average American lives better than the average, say, Frenchman?

Yes.

The average poor american has access to tons of cheap credit that lets him live a much more luxurious life

>So you haven't been to Europe then

I have been to quite a few European countries but that has nothing to do with what we're discussing.

As a tourist you visit the Best a country has to offer.

I visited Russia. Moscow is a beautiful city, world-class. But does that really represent how the Average Russian lives? By measuring by an incredibly expensive city? Of course not. So what would visiting a country have to do with it?

Even if you've been to France, you've probably been to Paris. and not surveyed the whole country. it's retarded, and you are retarded

>>69506609
Explain to me how gdp = living standard of people

>>69506692
Oh yeah. It's not like the poverty statistic you posted that shows that since Turkey has people who are poorer but closer together, there's less poverty than the US.

Do you at least realize how much of a retard you are?

>>69506668
>good luck

The smart people get them, what's the problem?

>just don't get killed by a sand nig and you will be in community college in no time

There's more roles in the military than running around shooting browns.

>This has nothing to do with uni

You talked about how the poor have little social mobility, being able to do a Trade and make a reasonable living is quite important.

>yeah but those are not in the top 20 so they're irrelevant like all universities in Italy and Canada included

I just don't get why people meme about "LE US EDUCATION XDD" when people from all over the world pay ridiculous money to study in the USA.

>>69506702
>cheap credit
What do your mean by that? A credit card? I don't know if youre aware of this but credit cards also exist in europe. But access to credit does not make for a better life. Sure you could buy a new car, but workers in USA have far less rights and standards. Go out and get some real understanding of this world before you start shitting out autistic rants.

>>69506692
Switzerland is not as poor as most yuropoor countries, I will give you that. But seriously comparing the US standard of living to Europe is laughable. No wonder you always compare your best with our worst. That's the only way you can "beat" us, cucks. Oh, and stop using the clothes lines, please. That's just embarrassing.

The Dutch economy relies on trade and finances.

You can sell a billion socks at the same time you sell a pair of socks.

>>69506823
>What do your mean by that?

I mean that people have access to cheap and readily available credit, which allows them to live lives far beyond their means. Interest rates are low as fuck right now.

>Go out and get some real understanding of this world before you start shitting out autistic rants.

Maybe you should go make some money outside of minimum wage

>>69506823
>but workers in USA have far less rights and standards

And what "rights" do you need?

You have the right to agree to exchange your labour for a certain wage. If you don't like it then fuck off and try your luck at the gloryhole

>>69506897
Is your grasp on workers rights really that bad?

>>69506702
>Even if you've been to France, you've probably been to Paris. and not surveyed the whole country. it's retarded, and you are retarded
I've worked in Ireland for 1 year as a waiter. I made twice as much there than I would have made in canada/usa. Much more social assistance there as well. People have more free time there. Even people working minimum wage jobs.
I spent 3 months in Spain. Even those who are unemployed live with dignity, unlike those in USA. I was in serbia for one month, and although that is one of the poorest countries in europe, they still enjoy a far superior education system than we have here in canada and usa.

You don't know what you're talking about. Why are you so stubborn in believing this delusion?

>>69506668
>a few
>yuroscient
m8, you shouldn't have mentioned science. you have a losing game there. seriously. the us is an education and science powerhouse. you can argue that some of the top scientists here are foreign born, but overall, you guys are not even close. try landing on mars first. then we can talk.

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>>69506944
ah yes

>>69506856
So your idea of a good living standard is being able to go buy a gold watch? Get a life kiddo. Work in the real world without daddy's money.

>>69506959
In the Netherlands people are richer than the UK. Especially per hour worked.
But a lot of Dutch students go work in London after their studies because they get higher wages.

Comparing countries is pretty hard.

>>69506897
>Rejects the US Declaration of Indipendence
>Rejects the UN
>Rejects statistical figures of the OECD
>Rejects worker's rights

>>69507002
Get a job that actually requires some skills you stupid faggot

>>69506959
>eastern europe
>superior education system
and you call someone delusional? even the slavs on /int/ hate their shitholes.

>>69506959
>they still enjoy a far superior education system than we have here in canada and usa.

Holy fucking kek

Is that why all the smart Serbians flee as fast as possible to the US / Canada?

What's the highest ranked Serbian university globally? Around 250th place?

>>69507001
Workers rights like vacation, a livable minimum wage, maternity/paternity leave, workers comp.
You have no grasp of the real world. Cant you see that you're not making any valid arguments?

Side note: were you that kid who made some thread criticising Canada's Healthcare system a few weeks back?

>>69506959
Kek, the cost of living Ireland is considerably higher in Ireland so your wage doesn't add up to shit. Try buying a car, pay rent, and buying gas for it on a waiter salary and tell me how much money you are making then

>>69507046
Look it up. You're public schools are more of a joke than ours. And that's saying a lot. They're glorified day cares.

>>69507083
>A livable minimum wage

That's not a right.

>You have no grasp of the real world

You working on farms all over the world for a few months at a time does not constitute a "grasp" on anything.

What work did you perform in these various countries? What does your professional work experience look like?

>>69507083
Having seen the tenor of his statements here I'd guess that might very well be his work

>>69507081
But you have no comment towards my other points?
The average 16 year old serbian is far more educated than the average 16 year old canadian/American.

>>69506791
>The smart people get them, what's the problem?
that the poor people are probably dumb as rocks

>There's more roles in the military than running around shooting browns.
You mean like the ones that probably require some education?

>You talked about how the poor have little social mobility, being able to do a Trade and make a reasonable living is quite important.
Is this somehow exclusive to the US?

>I just don't get why people meme about "LE US EDUCATION XDD" when people from all over the world pay ridiculous money to study in the USA.
Because somehow because you live in America and some people go to Harvard and the rest are imported there because they're ridiculously smart somehow improves the wellbeing of poor people

>>69506968
Oh you mean the powerhouse of immigrants that are labeled as Americans which isn't even an ethnicity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExoMars

In 2020 we will let aliens know that America is gay

>>69507015
London is huge, of course it's going to be better

>>69507046
A guy that I know barely finished high school here, now he's doing fine in an American university, but it might be the sports scholarship tho

>>69507144
>The average 16 year old serbian is far more educated than the average 16 year old canadian/American.

Cool. How much is that helping them?

Why aren't they educated enough to make a country that isn't poorer than India?

>>69507162
>that the poor people are probably dumb as rocks

So then why should they get anything?

>You mean like the ones that probably require some education?

You can study subjects on Khanacademy and other websites and then pass an aptitude test to get into US airforce.

That is sure to pay quite a bit and have significant benefits.

>>69507128
When did I mention farms? What the fuck are you on about? Get are real job and quit living off of daddy's money. You have no concept of the real world. Id bet a lot of money that you're a 14-17 year old kid,probably of Chinese descent, with rich as fuck parents who buy you anything you want. You're incredibly delusional and have no concept of this world.

>>69507144
kek, how did you calculate those averages? out of your ass? what do you even mean by the "average"? makes no fucking sense.

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>>69504094
>>69504141
>>69504284
>>69504740
>>69505220
>>69505255
I wonder who could be making all these posts

>>69507162
> powerhouse of immigrants
you must be one of those "well educated 16 yo serbians" >>69507144 lmao.

of course the us is a country of immigrants.

>>69504094

Productivity increases when you're not doing worked to death for 50% of your waking life

>>69507220
What jobs did you perform in these countries.

What is your professional work experience?

>Id bet a lot of money that you're a 14-17 year old kid,probably of Chinese descent, with rich as fuck parents who buy you anything you want

You don't have a lot of money to bet in the first place.

You work at/around the minimum wage, and think you're "worldly" because you've worked a bunch of shitty jobs and had very little to no money saved or invested in the market. You view everyone superior to you as "cheating" or "probably got the money from their rich parents".

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>>69507296
Ah yes

Americans work so much, they're le wageslaves!

pic related, shut the fuck up

>>69507307
I'm glad I was correct in my assumptions. Your opinions are not valued by anyone in society, Zhou. Go back to China.

>>69507358
>He refuses to answer


>Your opinions are not valued by anyone in society
Says the guy with literally no skills who works for minimum wage as an adult.

Why can't you answer? What jobs did you work in these countries. What is your professional work experience of the last 5 years?

>>69507357
Greeks don't work. They just sit at the office, socializing and making hours.

>>69507307
>You work at/around the minimum wage, and think you're "worldly" because you've worked a bunch of shitty jobs and had very little to no money saved or invested in the market. You view everyone superior to you as "cheating" or "probably got the money from their rich parents
You're quite wrong about your assumptions of me. It's late, go to bed. You have school tomorrow. How's 11th grade by the way?

>>69507394
They are just enjoying life you know

>>69507416
What field do you work in?

I work at a big 4 accounting firm. Where do you work?

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>>69507175
>Why aren't they educated enough to make a country that isn't poorer than India?
Are we going by per capita? Because then it isn't, if we are going by str8 numbers, you're poorer than India

>>69507215
>So then why should they get anything?
And that's why there are many poor Americans

>pass an aptitude test to get into US airforce.
Do you mean like a pilot? I'm pretty sure not everyone is suited for that, or do you mean like an aircraft maintenance sort of guy?

>>69507294
You missed the point, your average American is dabbing or being kidnapped by niggers. Any country in the future that can offer those scientists more money won't be working in the US anymore.

>>69507357
>Look ma, I found 20 countries out of like 200 that work longer hours HA HA

>>69507388
I didn't work while I was travelling, other than Ireland, however here in canada I work in an engineering company developing mines. You're assumptions are incredibly wrong.

>>69507438
>Do you mean like a pilot?

You can work in the US airforce and never be inside of an aircraft.

>>69507438
>>Look ma, I found 20 countries out of like 200 that work longer hours HA HA

It's about the claim that the US works exceedingly long hours, which doesn't have any basis.

>>69507466
You won't get an office job and I'm not quite that you can be the maintenance guy as I've previously stated with a high school diploma, but you probably can. My friend is studying to be the guy that blasts you with X-rays and shit and here you have to complete college for that and in America you only need to take like a course or some shit.

>>69507491
It depends on the number of people working part-time + they don't get paid time off

>>69507438
>And that's why there are many poor Americans

That's okay. The poor are subhuman. For capable people the US is the best country on earth. There's a reason the smartest people from all over the world pay hundreds of thousands of dollars on average for US greencards.

>>69507613
>For capable people the US is the best country on earth
You got that right. But the yuros seek consolation in the fact that their poor are less miserable than ours. Which is also questionable but that's a different story.

>>69507768
It's quite typical of them really, not much surprise here.

They are rather content with being mediocre. Explains why they don't do so well really.

>>69507613
>There's a reason the smartest people from all over the world pay hundreds of thousands of dollars on average for US green cards.
That's if you want to move to America by opening a business if you get a job offer I'm pretty sure you pay like a thousand dollars and even that is probably covered by the company, because if they pay you in six figures I'm pretty sure they get much more in return. Also when did this turn from the debate that poor people in America are fucked. I mean the US is the best, poor people should just be sent to Canada, your rich should come to the US and robots will keep on going the great Canadian economy of natural resources

>>69507826
>That's if you want to move to America by opening a business

Yeah that's true, I'm just saying the fact that some people are willing to pay so much really speaks volumes about how much they value US citizenship.

>>69507810
Socialist mentality derides excellence and promotes mediocrity. They even have a special term for that in nordic countries like Finland or Norway. Basically they are taught that you need to know your place and you are not better than others. So they have no extreme poverty but everyone has the same stuff, and all look the same, but they think it is better than way.

>>69507953
It's just sad honestly.

A life of mediocrity isn't a life worth living. Life is about struggle, and overcoming struggle. Might explain why they're so depressed, being a green house plant must be depressing, there's no way it couldn't be.

>5am
>have to take shit
>have to get up in 45mins anyway
>see this thread while on the shitter

It's called taxes and social security. Also 4 weeks vacation is the bare minimum for me and I expect 13 payouts of my wage a year.

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>>69508034
for the love of god you didn't flush did you?

>>69508034
but having to get up at 5:45am is not worth it, man...

>>69508078
It's a myth, my father told me it used to be loud as fuck cause the walls were thin and the entire house woke up from it.
>>69508104
Maybe for you but I like going to work if I get paid enough for it.

>>69504094
Why does it matter anyway?

>>69507046


Their education systems manage to get good outcome and results DESPITE being poorer. Look at Poland's PISA scores.

>Working long hours means getting shit done

So America is like Greece then? Because they work retarded hours.

I'll concede that for capable professionals and specialists, the USA is a great place to work and live.

You're excluding 95% of the populace though. And not ignoring them is neither socialist nor "deriding excellence" in any way, it's the decent way to treat your countrymen.


But hey! That one Canadian and the Americans in this godawful thread are experts on Europe so I'll better go wake up my government mandated Syrian and we'll walk or take public transport (remember, no cars! This is socialism after all) to the breadline.

>>69510841
Good morning, comrade.

>I'll better go wake up my government mandated Syrian and we'll walk or take public transport
Mine is busy with my wife at the moment. I have to wait in my shed until he's done. Luckily I have wifi in here.