What's it like living in an ex-colony country? To live in

>Who's short history is based on being conquered by a nation of superior culture and technology?

The attitude is more along the line of 'we were literally Britain, we colonized the continent, and somewhere along the way found a new identity' rather than identifying with the natives that were here before hand.

Though there is a lot of white guilt revisionism that refers to the colonization as the 'invasion' but for the most part that hasnt really sunk into the national psyche

>>69292238
You tell me, how does it to have been humiliated by us? Aren't they ashamed of telling the story? What do you even learn in your history class at school?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYXy6UhQBI

>>69292238
England and Wales were colonised and lets be honest civilised by Rome and we're better for it.

>>69292238
Considering im derived from Europeans im not sure how this post is supposed to be insulting

>>69292356
>Though there is a lot of white guilt revisionism that refers to the colonization as the 'invasion' but for the most part that hasnt really sunk into the national psyche
I mean it pretty much was m8.

>>69292238
Why is Chyna so stronk?

>>69292238
Here is like you say but words like "superior" aren't used; also there is a significant effort to show the dignity of native people.

For example, emphasis is put in how Mapuche natives resisted the Spaniards fir hundred of years.

But in the end is like you say, we are culturally Spaniards, but with a distinct identity which each latinamerican country bases in something different, being it it's native history or some other cultural difference.

Every part of my family was living in the british isles until the early 1800s, there is no separate history. New world people didn't generate spontaneously.

Will Africa be the new Europe in a century?
>civilized by a people who consider them Barbarians
>often go through centuries of civil war
>in a final attempt destroy their colonizers from the inside
>later on worship the ground they stepped on

It's a parallel to Rome.

>>69292238

>What's it like living in an ex-colony country? To live in a culture that's simply derived from a European master? Who's short history is based on being conquered by a nation of superior culture and technology?

>short history
>Russia
>India
>Turkey
>Sand land
Have more history than most countries in Europe fit together.

>>69292238
It's comfy being in the middle class :^).
We learn about our own history... we see the conquer and all that as one chapter more of our history.

>>69292356
is white guilt real

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>>69292238
The British's obsession of making protectorates or just heavily influencing states instead of outright annexing make making these kind of maps ridiculously difficult.

>>69292238
>What's it like living in an ex-colony country?
Nothing significant.
>To live in a culture that's simply derived from a European master?
We don't, French left nothing in our culture, same goes to Laos and Cambodia.
>Who's short history is based on being conquered by a nation of superior culture and technology?
Partly because the Nguyễn dynasty was full of dumbass.

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>>69293941

>>69292723
This, but here they emphasis too about the evil imperialism and that sort of crap

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>>69293941

>>69292238
We were never a colony tbqh, we were Portugal itself.

>>69294024
My grandmom grew up in Indochina

>>69292723
>we are culturally Spaniards
lol no.

>>69294088
>japan
>europoor's sphere of influence
lmao japan is the definition of invincible nation

>>69292238
ex-colony country?
I am Spanish, I am the colonist and colonizer, what are you talking about?

If I could I would create a Spanish state in Latin America for the Spanish race.

>>69292238
>What did your natives even do thousands of years predeceding our dominance over you?
didn't do shit to be honest. even till today their hamlets are made of tree branches
if anything, their greatest success was survival through assimilation. instead of fighting with sticks against guns, they had sex with the euros and taught the mixed kids (us) their culture

>>69292631
you're supposed to be more chauvinistic though
where's your USA flag and your gun?

>>69294051
>the evil imperialism
lol socialists

>>69294094
Well you definitely were a colony for a while before that, and we tried to make you a colony again, which triggered your leave, but yeah, you guys were part of the kingdom for a long time.

It's weird because unlike >>69292723 has said, I don't think Brazil is culturally Portuguese, or at least not too much. It's definitely not culturally native or anything either, despite the memes.

Brazil has somehow developed its own identity and culture separate from Portugal, and landed in an almost antithetical stereotypical position: warm happy-go-lucky attitude with non-autistic people.

Maybe it's bias for knowing it better, but I feel like Brazil became more different from Portugal than any Spaniard colony from Spain. Which is weird, because the Portugal/Brazil relationship is a lot better than theirs. Maybe because Brazil and Portugal each managed to stay intact and never had much relevant infighting.

>>69294252
brazil is not a portuguese colony.

>>69294129
Did she tell you how much of a shithole it was? It's still kind of like that though.

>>69294252
>39 ▶
>>>
>Anonymous 12/31/16(Sat)07:24:28 No.692
colony means settlement, brazil was just a state crafted in latin america with random peoples from the world.

>>69294252
>Brazil has somehow developed its own identity and culture separate from Portugal
we all did
except Uruguay. Uruguay is basically Entre Rios with independent status, should be annexed back by Argentina tbhfamalam

>>69294283
it WAS

>Turkey
>ex-colony

Dios mío, qué chicano más boludo >>69294308

>>69294317
what do you mean you weren't a mongol khanate colony?
i was lied my whole life

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>>69294285
Her father was colonial administator in Tonkin, so she have good memories from this time. She was born in Hanoi and left the place in 1945.
pic related is an old class picture, my grand mother is in bottom row, 4th from the left.

>>69294308
Yeah, under the Portuguese (and eventually Brazil's own) King's crown and language.

At some point we became the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves, but before it it was definitely a colony. How the fuck wouldn't it be, when we had just got there.

>>69294309
I know all you guys got your own culture and identity, but I've always felt that Brazil fell the furthest from the tree, from things like Bossa Nova, to their beach culture to their food and even poetry.

Again, this might either be my bias or the fact that Brazil ended up the largest Latin-speaking country.

>>69292238
When was Turkey colonized by europeans?

Ethiopia was occupied for less than seven years, no way Italians would manage to properly cuck them in that short timeframe.

And so on...

>>69294336
They destroyed Rum and reasoned the Anatolian Beyliks Period. Eretna Beylik wanted to became Mongol dog. Rum or the Ottomans never vassalized by the Mongol Khanate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolian_beyliks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eretnids

>>69292599
this guy is pretty charismatic

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>>69294024
>We don't, French left nothing in our culture, same goes to Laos and Cambodia.

Well, you can thank the commies for that.

>>69294211
Europeans bullied you into submission after things like the Namagumi incident, you had the Shimonoseki Campaign, and ultimately the Boshin war was pretty much a proxy war between France and Britain. Of course after that you modernised quickly and became a colonial power of your own, but for a good 10 years you were Britain, France, and to a lesser degree America's bitch.

>>69294433
>>69294317
>When was Turkey colonized by europeans?

Anatolia was Greek then Roman then Byzantine territory for more than a thousand years. I don't think map is only about 19th/20th century imperialism.

>>69292599
Most people don't know or even care about some irrelevant skirmish in the desert. I've always found it funny how on this board with this flag brits are constantly told about really obscure things that nobody here cares about, but is a fundamental part of some third worlder accusing it.

That my friend, is when you know your country is superior.

>>69294211
What is black ship?

but brazil is an african colony

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Where my Aussie bros at?

>>69295030
this.

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>>69293941
>>69294211
>>69294088
Japan was ours

>>69295077
how exactly is it different to texan seperatism with australia being seperatist to britain?

>>69292238
>Washington
wtf

>>69295174
Because Texas doesn't even have a majority of citizens who want to secede.

>>69295223
Oregon country was never colonized
There were some British ports, but that was about it. The influence of The US was too strong by that point

Though there are some interesting bits of influence. Some place have a high street instead of a main street for exampl

>>69294763
>calling Nasser Egypt irrelevant
Man, are your really THAT butthurt? But I think you should care. It was the day that you joined the we wuz club after all

>>69294185
he talking about chile, not mexico

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>>69294733
>Europeans bullied you into submission after things like the Namagumi incident, you had the Shimonoseki Campaign, and ultimately the Boshin war was pretty much a proxy war between France and Britain
topkek, do you even know that those "wars" were nothing but conflicts between a local daimyo (feudal lord) vs a coalition of western powers and had nothing to do with japan's sovereignty? and even in such a circumstance, westerners got more casualties, while the shogunate could mobilize about 300 those daimyos as well as its own largest standing army if it really wanted. westerners stood no chance against that combined force. japan did know the fact modernization/industrialization was inevitable and reformists just utilized western intervention as an excuse for reform that would ruin interests of lots of conservatives.

>>69294798
black ships were american, and like i said above both americans and europoors weren't capable of subjugating japan anyways.
even a local daimyo could repel the brits, inflicting more casualties, and america was irrelevant at that time compared to britain (at its apex).

We live in a strange place. We used to call ourselves the real china. Now we are beginning to accept the reality that we are ex colony of Japan, influence sphere of America, next to the real china etc

> Who's short history is based on being conquered by a nation of superior culture and technology?
It was a difficult process of admitting that many stuff were GIVEN by Japan not developed by "our guys". But knowing that Japan probably got it else where helps with the coping.


>What do you even learn in your history class at school?
Glorious Chinese civilization and modernization brought to Taiwan by Japanese.
>What did your natives even do thousands of years predeceding our dominance over you?
Before Japan came we were rice and tea farmers. I guess. There were some electricity and railroad made by Chinese but it was insignificant.

From time to time we notice that we are actually living a "western life": western medicine and hospitals, public schools, cloth, go to a job in the factory, watch tv and movies, etc.

But all are not very painful now since lots of cultural conflicts were worked out for generations.

I am used to this life and don't see the need for alternative. I don't even know what the alternative looks like.

Besides we are quite sure we are not the western guys we saw on tv.

I sometimes look at Japanese and Koreans and Chinese and feel safe. If they are okay with the westernization we are okay too.

>>69292599
based

>>69292616
rome had almost no impact on britain

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>>69292238
>To live in a culture that's simply derived from a European master?
You do realize some of us live in countries that had advanced cultures/civilizations already? Every time you eat a tomato or a bar of chocolate you're sharing in Mesoamerican civilization my profoundly ignorant friend. In Mexico our culture is derived from both Amerindian and European sources.

>Who's short history
kek, we can trace our country's history back to mammoth hunters all the way to bronze ages peoples and that's just on the natives.

>What do you even learn in your history class at school? What did your natives even do thousands of years
We have a history as rich as yours, far more complex in fact as we must learn the history of our people in two different continents.

I'm an ethnic Spaniard btw, and I'm very proud to have become an heir to the Aztecs because of my country of birth, the colony that was, New Spain, was the jewel of the Spanish empire, it changed and influenced the world in ways both large and small, it produced the silver that first allowed for global commerce and provided the material means for the world you see today, it originated the cowboy culture that we share with the Americans.

And I don't have to live with the shame of exploitation and genocide because I'm part of the new people that was born of that, a new man, with a calling to own the future.

Good luck handing your country over to peoples with a different culture you medieval relic.

Why does it even matter which countries wer colonized or not?
>we wuz kangs
>this world is ours
Empires rise and fall. There will never be another European golden age again. In half a millennia we'll probably irrelevant again.

It doesn't matter. It's just another chapter of history.

>>69292238
>short history is based on being conquered by a nation of superior culture and technology?
I don't know, but I can tell you what the opposite of that feels like...
Freedom.

>>69297555
>I'm an ethnic Spaniard
> heir to the Aztecs
>in Mexico """"""""""our""""""" culture is derived from both Amerindian and European sources

WE

>>69294211
low level bait.

>>69292238
Im so proud of my ancestors

>>69297756

WUZ

Us middle easterners have a longer history than you so your 50 years colonizing our countries didn't have as big of an impact like in south America

We thrived before you and will thrive again once you disappear

>>69297888
AZTECS

>>69297888
JEALOUS

>>69297929
of course it's a belgian flag

>>69297950

N SHIT

>>69297975
Our culture will eat yours our religion will devour yours

No Muslim will turn Christian but many Christians became Muslims

You 'll die out

>What's it like living in an ex-colony country? To live in a culture that's simply derived from a European master? Who's short history is based on being conquered by a nation of superior culture and technology?

It's ok.

>What do you even learn in your history class at school?

We learn world history and brazilian history.

>What did your natives even do thousands of years predeceding our dominance over you?

They planted cassava which is pretty delicious when fried.

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>>69298063
>trying this hard

>>69297756
In all fairness we are not Argentina, our culture does have original elements, or do you think people don't inherit culture and each generation invents it independently?

Yes, WE, OUR, I don't own it alone.

>>69298216
Most Argentinians despise the natives so while you do have a point, maybe that wasn't the best example.

>>69294239
>you're supposed to be more chauvinistic though
>where's your USA flag and your gun?
not everyone here is like that you know.

in any case we're the most powerful country in the world by far and a lot of US bashing is because of inferiority complexes. i dont even think saying that is chauvinistic cause it's true.

>>69292631
Fuck off faggot, all americans who derived from europeans are rednecks Britain didn't want and slavefuckers who were too sick to leave

>>69298489
thats not even close to being true, i dont have a drop of british/irish blood in me

>>69298400
>Most powerful country
>Doesn't recognise Taiwan because China doesn't want to, but still defends Taiwan from China

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>69298541
So not a real American :^)

>>69298541
H E R I T A G E

>>69298541
Then I have a surprise for you, slavefuckcuck

>>69298595
nigger,

he literally made a post about heritage

>>69298596
my family came here 60 years after slavery was abolished, mahmud

>>69298638
Doesn't mean they couldn't have fucked slaves dipshit, deportion just took a while, slavefuckcuck

>>69298699
what the literal fuk are you talking about, i know who my grandparents are

>>69298740
Okay slavefuckcuck, don't be angry.

But I don't want ebola so stop talking to me.

>>69298805
i like how you didnt even refute the fact that i called you a muslim lol

personally i dont like talking to people who are parasites to the country they're living in myself so cya

>>69298854
>Be slavefuckcuck
>but.. but.. I know my heritage :(
>Gets called on being a slavefuckcuck
>but... But... But.... Muslims :DDD
>Still be slavefuckcuck
>Die of ebola

>>69295608
Lol, the reason we joined the "we wuz club" was not because of Nasser, or even Iraqis (who supported our sphere of influence in the ME at the time and Nasser hated you), but because after the Suez Crisis the yanks and the Soviets condemned us along with France for asserting our own interests in the region (ironic? Yes).

We could have absolutely flattened you and the entire middle East if we'd wanted to, even back in 1955, and we probably still could. We got muscled out by countries the size of continents.

>>69298554

Well, in all fairness, the Chinese could simply invade Taiwan at any moment and completely overwhelm them. By the time we launched a full campaign to liberate Taiwan it would already be a fait accompli and the Chinese have attrition in their favor. Its just easier to accommodate China in exchange for them not invading Taiwan. Both sides exercise restraint and war is avoided. Being a small, dependent nation, you probably dont realize that with great power come great responsibility.

>>69298975
>actually responding to that guy seriously after reading his posts
kys my man

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>>69298596
>>69298699
>>69298805
>>69298934
this is some of the worst posting i have seen in 2016, you should be ashamed

>>69292616
Dumb fucking nigger.

>>69292238
We have our own history.

>Be first colony in the Americas
>Spain neglects us when Cuba is colonized
>Alternate between French and Spanish rule
>Declare independence
>Haiti invades day after
>Declare independence again
>Life is so shit we willingly rejoin Spain
>Declare independence again
>Civil wars
>US intervenes
>Civil wars
>The US intervenes again

>>69298993

> not defending your nation's dignity

degenerate

>>69298382
>Most Argentinians despise the natives
Fair enough, that most of them have native blood kinda makes it ridiculous but you do have a point so I'll rephrase.

We are not Australia.

Yes, I do understand you also hate your natives.

>>69299093
Because, let's face it, natives are usually dumb as fuck.

>>69299056
>>69299001
>>69298994
>>69298993
>>69298975

>Anglos trying to help eachother

>>69294763
>my ignorance makes me superior
state of the western world

>>69299176
Not one of them, but why are the Dutch so butthurt about the British?

Not even the Germans are this bad.

>>69299176
guess morocco doesnt have anyone to help it

>>69299134
you realize hes prolly like half native right? kek

>>69299093
>that most of them have native blood kinda makes it ridiculous
What? I thought they were the 'whitest' country in S. America so it didn't come as a surprise to seeing why they disliked them.

>Yes, I do understand you also hate your natives.
We don't "hate" them per say but if you're a typical abo (smelly, drop pout and dumb) people tend to look down on you.

>>69299224
Not him, but see my response to him >>69298958

He's still full of shit.

>>69299251
>implying that guy is ethnic dutch

>>69299251
>>69299258

>Brexiteers

You are making it sound like I descend from conquered people and not from conquerors, you will never experience what it is to be a white male in south america and be able to talk shit about negroes outloud with your buddies and see how they avoid eye contact to avoid gazing into your steel blue eyes and turn their heads down acknowledging your utter dominance, towering 20 cm over them ,being more afluent, physically fit and educated than them.
If these mestizos and indios went to the UK they would be treated like royalty by your cucked populace and talking shit to them would get you jailed.

>>69299309
>Implying you are not a slavefuckcuck

>>69299338
Also my family came here in 1938 so lul >colonial history

>>69299251
the dutch are the worst posters on this board stop replying to them

>>69292238
Britain was colonized and each time transformed by Romans, Anglo-Saxons and Normans.

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>>69297820
lol, it's us who buttraped europoors and kicked them out of asia in ww2.
it's us who buttraped ruskies, which was one of the most powerful european empires of the time, in russo-japanese war.
japan, as a nation, has never lost a war against euros nor against any single nation. it's indeed the definition of invincible history.

>>69299393
>Fuck I said something stupid because I'm a brexit voter
>Act like I'm someone else :DDD

Why is Turkey on the map?

We are ex-colony of.. ?

>>69299338
you sound like a dickhead

>>69294045
America had HUGE control over Liberia lol

@69299463
stop replying to me you cunt i dont even know what youre trying to say there

>>69299465
u r greks

>>69299338
>your average Argentinian height is 5'8
>your average SA Indian male is allegedly 5'1
what the fug...

>>69299385
>Also my family came here in 1938 so lul colonial history
>You are making it sound like I descend from conquered people and not from conquerors
So you're just another pathetic migrant who couldn't hack it in his mother land? Kek.

You're descended from losers.

>>69299465
The roach-king

>there actually are brexit voters in this thread

>>69299465
You were cucked into losing your empire and then we colonized your country to change it from a muslim shithole to an atheistic one.

Your welcome.

>>69299536
:^)

>>69292238

In the case of anglo colonies with no native population its great, they have a relatively new country with plenty of land and natural resources, actually more prosperous than Europe, and they probably don't feel cucked at all because their ancestors are the ones that conquered it.

In the case of India and latin american countries however they're butthurt as fuck

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>>69299284
kek, don't tell me you actually buy into that meme?

Also, it's per se, not per say, that's latin

>>69299621
>colonized

FOY

>>69299797
Not nearly as butthurt as you people are about being displaced as the cultural center of the Spanish speaking world

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>>69298400
there you go bro, be a proud unitedstatian no matter what

>>69299797
>In the case of India and latin american countries however they're butthurt as fuck
I haven't seen a single butthurt pooinloo poster so far desu. This thread is full of latino's tho.

I can understand why they'd mad desu. Their sub-continent was ahead of Europe of millenia before Britains took over. Not to mention we did shit the place up tbph.

But I really don't get why people are so mad over history.

>>69299801
Top kek. This makes all them racist Argie's look even more pathetic in hindsight. They really are on full scale damage control.

>>69299803
What?

>>69300007
> * was ahead of most of Europe for millennia

>>69292238

>who's

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>>69300007
>Their sub-continent was ahead of Europe of millenia before Britains took over

>>69292238

>>69300000

>>69300186

>>69300057
I meant most of Europe barring the Meds. They had one of the few cradles of civilization and other stuff like the ME but they stagnated from religion and other sorts of things.

>>69292238
>What's it like living in an ex-colony country?

Mate we're all USA's colonies now. Politically, economically and most importantly, culturally.

>>69292238

I feel like my ancestors made the right call moving away from you bloodthirsty, sister-fucking, king-worshipping faggots.

We have the same quality of life your parents had, but with no wars and a lot more sex.

How does it feel to know that no matter how happy you are right now, my sons will be happier than you?

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>>69292616
No, We are Saxons, we are NOOOORTHERN BROTHERS

I thought we are facing modernization not westernization

>>69294211
Lmao what do you call our 55,000 raping troops in your cunt?

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>>69300919
Karma.

>>69299405
>it's us who buttraped europoors and kicked them out of asia in ww2.
Euros were still there after WW2.

>>69299049

What a nice post.

>>69300007
>Their sub-continent was ahead of Europe of millenia before Britains took over. Not to mention we did shit the place up tbph.
Shitposter

>>69301222
:^)

I never said they were ahead of all of Europe but they did civilize themselves before we did and that's a fact m8. India, China and the ME were ahead of Europe for a long time before our colonization.

Don't be a dumb Amerishart.

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>>69292238
What's it like living in an ex-colony country? To live in a culture that's simply derived from a Germanic master? Who's short history is based on being conquered by a nation of superior culture and technology?

What do you even learn in your history class at school? What did your natives even do thousands of years predeceding our dominance over you?

>>69292238
>master
Australia is far better than what we derive from, generally people just identify with multiple countries' history and cultures. But even then, it's not important to anyone's day-to-day life, people tend to look to the future. Only those that are insecure and stagnant in what they do and who they are, constantly parade it or things associated with it and insert it into topics and conversation. It's what you do in your life that is far more relevant to defining you, not where your from or the assumed label(s) from birth. Those that emphasise and stagnate in their obsession of it are insecure, regardless of the country. Living vicariously through the past, rather than looking to the future and making something of yourself in the present. Many Australians actually do this, it is more common in younger countries. It's a slight and usually uncommon thing but you might find some people irrationally sensitive to questioning of their identity and countries in general. I have noticed it in some Aussies on the internet, never in real life though.

>>69294211
You only need to look at your history (especially recent history) and the current state of your nation to know that you are wrong. Of course, present-day it is more American influence than anything else but not solely.

>>69300414
>Politically, economically and most importantly, culturally.
Also this, culturally we're all eroded into a sort of semi-western globalist thing, regardless of what you think, you are far from culturally authentic compared to even recent ancestors, we're very uniform as a species these days, mindset is the largest differnce. Y'know, you won't find someone who hasn't watched a movie and finds the concept foreign, because movies are all across the world, apply that to literally everything, there are less dividers and variances. Eventually we'll all be pretty much culturally homogeneous, just varying local customs. Even visiting /int/ makes this more and more so.

we are an amerindian colony, and amerindians have made great advancements in the shaping of argentina as you see it today, it's more, argentina's original name was AMERINDIANTINA, or in quechua ''resting place of the mighty amerindian''

>>69299049
Anon did based USA delivered you a good amount of freedom desu?