Tell me about left wingtards in your country, /int/. Are they

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>>69092630

Left voters
>live in east German cities
>dream of a new GDR
>successor of the former east German communist party
>went full SJW over the past decade
>hate: Germany, America, Nato, capitalism
>love: refugees, feminism

Green voters
>live in west German cities
>hippies & treehuggers
>want Germany to be more like Sweden
>hate: white people, straight men
>love: refugees, feminism

They are retards but still get about 10% of the votes.

>>69092977
> >hate: capitalism
Though they all use smartphones and visit fast food chains.

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>>69092630
Sinn Fein, former political wing of the IRA. Now turned into a progressive left wing party
These are our """"Nationalist"""" party

pic related, you can see Gerry Adams in the background kek

>>69093493
We have no left wing in Ireland aside from some pathetic independents. Sinn Fein are not left wing at all. We are a centrist country to the bone.

They run the country. Literally. They control everything from media to cultural institutions to schools to the governmetn.

>>69092630
They used to be the most powerful party.

But things are getting worse...

>>69092630
meh idk anymore it's all kind of blurry these days

who do we even consider as the left wing in this country nowadays ? communists, socialists,republicans, ""equality&reconciliation", muslims ?
all of them ? none ?
what about the FN too, they are a russia-funded party that is about as communist as the communist party

honestly they are all left wing in this fucking country at this point, and yes it's a joke, the entire thing is a joke, i won't be surprised when france ends up nuking the world because of sheer incompetence

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They vote for a party called Merez that used to unironically support Stalin. Now they are extremely SJW and lead by a hysterical woman that yells all the time. They support prosecuting prostitute clients as rapists because women don't choose to be prostitutes of their own will. They make pilgrimage to the grave of Yasser Arafat. They lobby foreign governments and international organizations to impose sunctions on Israel. They demand that people suspected of being right wing radicals be arrested without trial while calling for the release of palestinian terrorists that killed civilians and call them political prisoners. One of them evem traveled to a war zone to serve as a human shield for a local militant. They demand that illegal aliens from Africa be given full citizenship and advocate open borders with Syria to allow their refuges in. Those of them that are even more radical than that vote for the ''united arab list'' party that is a union between arab communists, arab nationalists and arab islamists.
They don't hold much votes (3-8% depending on the elections) but they are very overrepresented in the media, humanities academia, judicial and similar bohemian circles.

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>>69093842
>Sinn Fein are not left wing at all

>>69092630
Smer has been the most powerful party in Slovakia for 10 years in a row. They're not Western European style social democrats though. Robert Fico, our PM, likes to use left-wing nationalism to get votes.

>>69094277
so essentially they just do what Jews do all over the West but in Israel?

>>69092630
one half of our Social Democrat party wanted to be "just like Germany/Sweden senpai", not realizing that there are no immigrants to vote for them and no white guilt to speak of.
The other half of Social Democrats are desperately trying to suck China's dick for money wherever they are.
they used to be biggest party, now they are falling further into obscurity.

then there's "The Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia"
they are literal Stalinists who love North Korea. Nobody wants to have anything to do with them. Their main voter base is old party members from commie times that's slowly dying off.
They hate America, NATO, capitalism, etc., but are rather nationalistic.

Greens here were bit more libertarian weedlmaos
I say were because they vanished into total obscurity after one of the proto-sjw leaders didn't know "what is biomass" on national television.
now they are "the vegan hipster caviar-socialist party" that everyone makes fun of. Literal Skinheads are more likely to end up in the parliament right now.

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>>69094277
>Unironically support Stalin
>Extremely SJW and lead by a hysterical woman

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No, they are lovely.

They go onto protests to ask for selfies with cops.
Because that's why police is important. So you don't show up in pictures alone in your ridiculous flag scarf.

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>>69094408
Yes. I forgot, they claim that the goym hate us because we are not SJW enough and that we should learn from Europe, especially Sweden. They alway threaten to immigrate to Berlin where they believe other artistic hipsters like them reside.

>>69094393
This party won an absolute majority in a 2012 election and formed a one party government that lasted four years.

Some of theirs steps were concerning, but they've never attempted to install "illiberal democracy" like Fidesz in Hungary and PiS is Poland.

They're now in a coalition government with two different parties.

>they always threaten to move to berlin

Actually we now have 20.000 Israelis loving there which makes Berlin the place in germany were now most jews life, I thought that would be so because its the capital but that it has such a reputation for your sjws to exclusevly come here I didnt knew.

Do your far lefties draw their voterbase/substance from the eurojews/ashkenazis or do arabs and mideast hebrews also participate in equal terms?

>>69092630
I'll start out by disqualifying the Social Democratic Party as "leftists". They might have had some pretty weird tendencies the last few years but it was largely because of how fucked our media climate became as a product of Green Party-voting journalists dominating the newspapers. It happened to both them and the parties of the right-wing bloc.

The problem with the left in general is that it's largely abandoned its roots as a working class movement. Instead choosing to focus on identity politics, immigration (which undermines the working class and the unions) and middle-class+ feminism. It's a feel good ideology for bourgeoisie women who'll never need to face the issues the average person will; the country could become 90%+ black rather than 90%+ white and they'd still live in a 100% white neighbourhood.

I might be a centrist, but I really do think it's tragic that we lack a proper left-wing alternative that concerns itself with the wellbeing of the nation's workers and strives to protect their interests rather than running errands for the bourgeoisie to ease their conscience.

>>69094584
>learn from europe
>especially Sweden
A country so fed up with backdoor immigration courtesy of neo-liberalism disguised as classical liberalism that over 20% of the population is voting for a party that was near openly nazi in the early 90s?

That's weird.

>>69094734
The left has become superfluous as capitalism/social democracy has ceased enough safetynets for workers to make it the objectivly superiour system.
So what is left for the left is to destroy out of spite and shame of the own superiority.

>>69094842
Hail Nordfront

>>69094734
The problem is that traditional working class in the West is disappearing. Unions are losing membership and influence as well.

Service sector workers have different needs and values. Precariat is unable to mobilise and organise itself.

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>>69094868
I sometimes pretend to be a proper socialist in discussions with friends just so there's someone defending the working class instead of insulting it for voting populist.

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>American patriotism is very inspiring, so know I'm loving me country too.

>>69094885
>nordfront
They're literally sticker-warriors. The walk around at night putting "Nordfront" stickers on lampposts and benches downtown and consider that a deed well done.

Literally subhumans, what did you expect?

>>69094734
>sweden so left that the Socialist are considered "right-wing bloc"
top lel
>The problem with the left in general is that it's largely abandoned its roots as a working class movement. Instead choosing to focus on identity politics
you are absolutely right.
But it's kinda natural step. The workers as class is shrinking in West because of China, automatization and it's mostly immigrants who work in the low income jobs.
I suppose they needed another underclass to gain power from.

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>Hello, BraZzzzzilian, army? Do you like my english?

>>69094899
I used to hear this often - working class has abandoned social democracy for right-wing populism.

Then I checked data and it seems like blue collar workers in Austria, Germany or Sweden still vote for social democratic parties. Right-wing populists draw its support from petite bourgeoisie which is frightened to fall down into the proletariat.

>>69095019
The Social Democrats aren't socialists. It's about socialist ideas within a capitalist system whilst straight up socialism would imply a socialist system, and that's when you get properly leftist. They're technically to the left of the political center here, but that doesn't make them a proper leftist party.

>>69094937
Didn't they torch some refugees

>>69094899
I run my mouth without giving any fucks so we stopped talking over politics except over very selective topics while walking on eggshells and try to be as rational and courteous as possible.

>>69095072
Petite bourgeoise is called the middleclass and the most valuable asset european countries have.
Overtaxing it and spending these taxes on people alien to the payees besides of course alienates them. The fact that our middleclass has been shrinking is a sign of decay and well end as banana republics when this process is completed.

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>>69095117
>Social Democrats aren't socialists

>>69095218
Not by any proper definition of the word, no. If they were socialists they wouldn't be staunch supporters of the free market. Social democrats =/= socialists. They push some socialist ideas, but again, as part of a capitalist system based on the freedom of the individual and the market.

>>69095218
He's right desu. Just as classic liberals are not left since around 1848

>>69095193
Lower middle class was always the first one to rally behind fascism.

They turned their rage stemming from inequality to those below them.

>>69095407
>>69095072
This guy gets it.

Although I should make one thing clear: most of the lower middle class in Sweden identifies as "working class".

>>69092630
We threw all our lefties across the border.

>>69095283
well, with that kind definition I can't argue
>>69095327
that's kinda my point though
there are no more central planned economy proponents, therefore socialism doesn't really mean the same it did in the 60's

>>69095407
True but they pay taxes so the ones below them can get gibs. Social mobility is still great, so its either your own fault if you stay in the lowerclass or fate fucked you over in which case you get sympaties from people of your own ethnic tribe in most cases. This gets now torn down as most dishwashers are some poor african fucks.
My parents were welfare receivers for decades but managed to get into the lower middleclass by continious effort.
The rage is justified.

>>69095609
Well, there are no 100% free market economies either. European countries have mixed economies.

There is a difference beween social democracy and democratic socialism. The former strives to tame capitalism and make it more socially just, the latter wants to gradually achieve socialism by democratic means.

interesting thread, bump for more examples from other countries

>>69093842
>the party that unironically proposed a 100% tax on any income over €1million is not left-wing

Sinn Féin voters are good for a laugh.

>>69095407
And what's wrong with fascism?

complete fucktards, want us to become more YES and accept refugees
there isn't a single left-wing party in our parliament because they're all retards

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>>69095072
Not in France
From top to bottom:
Upper class
Middle class
Employees
Workers
Unemployed people
Retirees

>>69096102
>polish parliament

>>69096102
Poland is pretty based, tbf.

>>69096199
Ireland is pretty cool too, suprised you guys still hold with all the conservative laws in the west.

>>69096141
I hate this fucking "they're poor, NEETS and filthy néo-nazis!!!" reputation

Our Far-Right used to be so based and prestigious.

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>>69092630

As big of a mess like Jeb running for president

>>69096141
What is the definition of a "worker", and how is it different from an"employee"? It would be better if they were sorted according to wage groups.

>>69096331
menial worker/office worker, basically

>>69096349
So in France, all manual labourers are considere "working class", regardless of how much they make? That's kinda weird, since manual labourers in the west have middles class wages nowadays.

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>>69092630
DELETTTTTTTTTTTT

>>69094734
>The problem with the left in general is that it's largely abandoned its roots as a working class movement. Instead choosing to focus on identity politics, immigration (which undermines the working class and the unions) and middle-class+ feminism. It's a feel good ideology for bourgeoisie women who'll never need to face the issues the average person will; the country could become 90%+ black rather than 90%+ white and they'd still live in a 100% white neighbourhood.
Fuck that sounds exactly like the Labour party in this country, the difference is nobody is voting for them.

>>69096251
>suprised you guys still hold with all the conservative laws in the west.
What do you mean? Ireland is legally very lefty. It's culturally that we're conservative, outside of Dublin.

>>69093842
>We have no left wing in Ireland
You're retarded. We don't even have a real right-wing party.

Some very influential people here are old school commies, but by and large its queermos and jew women who would immediately be liquidated by the regimes they idolize

>>69094584
>learn from Sweden
We all should, but not in the way they probably mean

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>>69094277
>Even jews lose with jews

>>69094842
What's weard about it? Their just using your country's name as a symbol of everything they want, it's an imaginary sweden, they are not interested in learning about the real one.

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>>69092630
yup, cringy retards that no one likes

>>69097721
>tfw redpilled schlomo

>>69097762
>tfw no qt chilean commie gf

>>69098370
Get a qt Chilean mentally sane gf instead

>>69094868
>The left has become superfluous as capitalism/social democracy has ceased enough safetynets for workers to make it the objectivly superiour system.

Marxism had already become obsolete by the 1920s.

>Left
On life support. Only hardcore communists vote for them

>Green
Women only

>>69097762
>using /b/ memes from 8 years ago

The only time socialism/communism was semi-acceptable among working class Americans was during the Great Depression, otherwise it's always been Bohemian hipsters who don't have a real job.

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>>69092630
they are gipsies, even tho they look white

Left:
>Over emotional and use "racist/bigot" liberally over anything
>Feel "bad" for poor people but don't help them. Gotta go to Starbucks!
>Have no financial ideas other than stop extracting oil for muh environment.
>usually in IT or creative fields
>use drugs recreationally
>appeals to emotions rather than facts
>consider themselves morally superior to everyone else
>elderly becomes degenerate and fucks girls 40 years younger.

Right
>unemployed and on welfare, or inherited wealth
>votes for parties that'll reduce their income, so "I won't have to pay for others laziness!" (Welfare gets taxed for pension reasons)
>either no education, or rarely, good business education abroad on dad's money
>pulls true Scotsmen all the time or discredit opposite opinions as Jewish branwashing
>among the poor, use hard drugs like heroin
>consider themselves superior to anyone else, thinks they're millionaires just temporarily broke
>elderly move to Thailand or Spain, live in Norwegian colonies and complain about immigration not assimilating, and how no locals speak a real language like Norwegian

>>69092630
They are our second strongest party now, the first are "right wingers" but in reality both of them are centrist scum with no ideology but money and spreading their ass to our German and USA (EU/NATO) masters

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>>69095045
Every time

>>69098865
none of them like serbs, refugees, faggots and so on. This "western problems" are non existant here

our "leftards" like pic related? non important

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>>69098720
Yep, pretty much this, though the upper and lower boundaries of what constitutes "working class Americans" has shifted quite a bit since those days

>>69095891
>There is a difference between social democracy and democratic socialism. The former strives to tame capitalism and make it more socially just

desu it has more to do inevitable rising living standards. Social democracy/democratic socialism/whatever really doesn't do jack.

>>69098965
The Abraham Lincoln Brigade were just edgy Bohemian college students though.

>>69092630
The most left wing party we got is social democrat

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>>69093375

>>69099078
From what I hear, Korean leftists are all Pyongyang puppets and sometimes literally exposed as such.

During the Depression, a lot of dumb idiot college grads also moved to Russia thinking they'd find paradise and escape capitalism.

They all died.

>>69095609
>there are no more central planned economy proponents
At least not under the age of 60. I mean, all ex-communist states have aging diehard Stalinists but they'll be gone in 15 or years.

>>69099121
No.

Trotskyists here oppose NK, for obvious reasons.

Those puppets are spies, not really puppets. Haven't actually met any of them.

"NK spies" are literally le jews of Korean politics

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Japanese Communist Party
>abolition of the imperial system and imperial family
>abolition of the Japan-US treaty, retreat of all American forces from Japan
>abolition of the self defense force or any military groups

>>69096021
>Raising taxes is left wing
>Literally amerifat tier
Current Japanese prime minister raised consumption tax and he's right wing

>>69099286
Supposedly JCP are also all Chinese puppets who want to turn Japan into a protectorate of Beijing.

>>69094475
Funny because Stalin banned homosexuality in Soviet Union. It was legal until Stalin.

>>69099119
>Communists
>In Worst Korea

Nice try

>>69099380
>Everyone who oppose capitalism is a commie
I didn't know Canada adopted American education system.

>>69099306
Do you realise that anyone can just say they're right-wing and then do something left-wing? Abe isn't a robot programmed only to do right-wing things.

A "no-millionaires" tax is objectively a left-wing policy.

>>69099403
Why are you struggling to desperately to go to bat for communism/anti-capitalism?

Our Left Wing party is losing votes to Green Party

Our Social Democrats are having a identity crisis. Most of them want to be more anti-immigration but they are pussies.

>>69098720
Although communists were a fairly important part of the organized labor movement for a time, by the second half of the 1930s, they'd largely been squeezed out by more centrist, mainstream labor leaders. UAW founder Walter Reuther, a socialist in his edgy youth, gradually moderated with age and by the 1950s was instrumental in driving out any communist influence from the US labor movements.

When Nikita Khrushchev visited the US in 1959, he met Reuther and was not impressed by him, commenting that "He looks like those cartoons of capitalists we drew during the civil war."

>>69094733
Most of them are ashkenazi and usually they are rich crybabies with daddy issues ''my dadd is a horrible Capitalist pig/ Fascist Mossad General / Knesset Member and I hate him but take his money so I can buy weed and MacBook and be an artist''. But there are some mizrahi ''intellectuals'' as well, the one's that secretly hate their culture but capitilize on it to play the victim since SJW's like to have at least one group member with a special life story: black/arab/mizrahi/gay grandson of nazi criminal etc. Arabs may also be part of such groups but unless they are gay they are not real SJW but arab nationalists.

Pretty much the usual hipster feminist/gay/Afroleninist/Muslim huggers you'd expect.

>>69099306
I want to ask why do you consider Abe as right-wing?

>>69100056
His party is right wing

>>69099306
>>Literally amerifat tier

You're talking a teenager that got their entire worldview from American memes. We have a lot of those in Ireland, absolute scum.

There is essentially no American left. All we have are various reformist brigades for different social causes tied to identify politics.

>>69093375
We live in a capitalistic society. Working with capitalism, before its abolition, is inevitable.

>>69093875
Then why didn't you guys man up and go all the way?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehn–Meidner_model

Sweden is stuck with a completely unsustainable model of social democracy instead of socialism.

>>69099119
Nice strawman.
It's easy to avoid huge-ass fastfood chains and it's possible to live without a smartphone. For example, I don't have one.

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yes they usually use saya called "nasionalist" mask for their polling activities

heck, they even Made a web to nominator their minority chink candidate for Nobel prize

>>69092630
well there were leftwings once in my country, 50mln people died

>>69100837
This is not 1965, dude.

They are absolutely a joke, yes, but they are a vast majority so they themselves wouldn't realize this, they think they are the intelectual elite of the nation, which is just precious.
They accept all of the planks of the left without thinking about it, without even considering it for a second. They have no idea what socialism is, but they know they love it, they love Marx, Lenin and Stalin and they love socialist memes. They know the political in power for the last decade is incredibly corrupt and cancerous, but they say that's just the media lying, even though 90% of the media is leftist. They have no idea of what feminism actually causes, but they know it's the best thing since sliced bread.

It's a constant bubble of denial and safe space.

>>69092630
The post-gommie parties commited a political suicide in last elections by creating a joint party and thus raising their required votes threshold, which they didn't manage to reach.
Aside from them there's a younger group of neoleftie cucks, but they had less than 5% of votes, so they're even less relevant.
But if you're asking about voters, not politicians, I think majority of them lives in the capital. Nuke the capital and there's no lefties.

>>69095045
Your country's name is spelled with a 'z' in English, there's nothing wrong with that poster.

>>69102781
Aren't most of them aging ex-PZRP members?

>>69102108
underrated

>>69094584
The girl on the left is hot.

>>69094573
>>69094930
>>69095045
Are you retarded? The thread is about left wing, not right.

Some are sjws, others USSR LARPers others others left neoliberals, antifa, anarchists some terrorist groups etc etc

>>69102941
Yup. Dunno if you heard anything about the anti-government protests happening here, but a definitive majority of these people are old farts who yell some bullshit about muh freedumz and muh rights, while actually they're just scared of their fat gommie rent getting thinner.

>>69103524
>antifa
these guys are the biggest fags ever

>>69103688
They can do some damage when in numbers.

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>>69102042
>Nationalist group dressing like naruto characters

>>69103773
i know, i got harassed by them in portugal before

they thought that they were very tough guys in their group

>>69093493
that burka thing can't be true, can it
it's a parody. or photoshop or something isn't it

>>69093493
>>69103823
I mean, they seem to even be at the front of the demonstration (or at least it looks like they are holding the banner right after them). how can that shit not de-legitimize absolutely anything

>>69099286

>abolition of the imperial system and imperial family

How come traitors like these are even allowed to have their own political party?

http://www.nobordersiceland.org/
No borders is prolly the only """"radical""" leftist group here

>>69094475
what the fuck are you talking about, all the parties in russia hate gays. even the commies do.

>>69094930
those policemen hnnng

>>69094885
bunch of skinhead fags walking around putting stickers on lamp posts

>>69103642
>>69102941
Almost all gommies in Eastern Europe are senile old idiots who want to live in 1970s and usually worked for the communist party or state security force. Big difference is that these guys are oldschool Stalinists who admire Cuba and shit while most of young lefties are SJW gay/hippie/feminists.

>>69094584
Notice all leftist look degenerate, weak, and dirty. Truly leftists are people who are failures and blame society for their failures rather then face them. If diaspora Jews acted like them in other countries I can see why everyone hated us.

>>69105166
The two men at the front look normal semi-skinny. In fact the whole parade doesn't look bad unless you're expecting olympic lifters

>>69099286
>unironic japanese gommies
I thought SCAP banned them along with the JRA

>>69105166
Most Israelis are either fit fags obsessed with themselves that take super care of themselves or the complete opposite and fat Arab looking beasts. So to me they look like drug addicts and weird amerikike hippies.

Israelis tend to be against this whole culture they represent so to me they look like degenerate faggots.

>Social Democrats
They've lost some of the working class voters to True Finns (populistic-conservative-center/left). They're in the opposition now so I think they'll bounce back in the next election due to True Finns not being able to hold up to all of their their promises. They had a pretty big scandal a few months back when they accepted a member who had connections to ISIS-type groups in the middle east. I don't remember if it was ISIS or something else.
>"Left-Alliance"
The most left party that's in the parliament. They're all social security and free stuff for everyone and open borders. They've been a small, irrelevant party for the last 2 elections.
>Greens
Gays and SJWs and open borders. I believe only under 30 year old women vote them. They've had up to 10% popularity in some gallups which would make them bigger than True Finns. Interesting for the next election in 2019. They also had a pretty big scandal lately when one of their members (somali background) had embezzled 40-50-something thousand euros of social security money. A few years back she had been in a magazine article where she said "I don't know any somalis who'd want to come here and just live on social benefits".

>>69099119
Feudalism is no where near as bad as uneducated leftists make it out to be, indeed modern governments dominate and control our lives much more than the feudal system, people did have guaranteed rights and could defend them as a community group, especially in cities, this isn't as much of a thing anymore and modern governments and are so much more capable of undermining rights, oppression and tyranny due to how centralised they are and how much power they have, just look at your president.
It does depend heavily on the family unit and there being enough land to work in rural areas.
It also concerned Townspeople as well as peasants, which was usually more interesting and important to the development of cities

Although in certain areas such as Russia it was pretty bad, however russia is still bad and always will be.
However in others such as England, which had independent courts and eventually magna carta people were well off, flanders due to city dominance was as well, in some aspects of life people were actually better off that they are now; for example a civil case in 13th century England cost the equivalent of a week's wages for a labourer, now it is much much more.

I do like the semi-feudal system of the 17th and 18th centuries though which is basically more societally stable capitalism, the pre-revolution French government was basically the same as the post-one bar jobs in government and some meme-issues like hunting rights

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>>69104818
I thought they looked like they had their shit together
Shame that, you need to fight fire with fire before there is literal fire courtesy of Somalia

>>69102180
>let's just sit on our asses and allow the wealthy to devour us

>>69110370
t. it's the fault of the Jews that I have $200,000 in student loan debts for my African Basket Weaving degree

>>69109552
Also people in feudal societies actually didn't work nearly as long as they do in the modern day. Per capita, you made a weeks wage in about 3-4 days and as such had much more free time.

>>69094277
>the Jews have kikes of their own shitting the place up.

Pottery, kinda fucking extreme that those dipshits unironically venerate stalin.

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>>69092630
There are two types of lefties/commies here.

1) turboautists

2) people who just hates the wealthy and are pretty ignorant about everything, "muh banks and corporations are evil" and this kind of stuff and low-brow political comprehension. Usually violent because they feel entitled to it.

We never had a ruling government without a (center) right party, but (center) left also normally rules along. So we get the worst of both worlds.

I'm convinced our politicians just hold the country back. They rule based on what they read in the newspapers that morning. And policies usually dont change a lot. You can easily have the same policy for 12+ years here.

>>69110908
We have lefties that just want to spend money. Preferably to help poor inferior human beings who need to be guarded against racist capitalism.

We have the Greens who want to turn us into.. ehh.. an European province. Dont know why but its green.

And we have genuine socialists that want something close to communism.

>>69092977
which is the right wing party
because i know that CDU isn't it

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>>69094161
this french post made me sad so i went to open itunes to put on music to make me feel better
when it opened, it turns out the last thing i left it on was on a francoise hardy album, which only made me feel worse
i weep for france

>>69111104
Note our commies and greens never ruled a single day. Our power always remains in the center with a left and right wing coalition.

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>>69092630
nonexistant thanks to the based 2 party system
we get to choose between center right (cucks) and glorius right wing, likely until the end of time

>>69104683
>even the commies
Where does this meme come from that commies support that? If anything degeneracy was all over West while it was absent from Soviet media.

>>69092630
Those two lads look very handsome

>>69112339
German commies used to be pretty homophobic until the 90s, the Socialist Unity Party was against LGBT rights, even though homosexual relationships were decriminalized in 1968. Their successors (Die Linke) however fully support LGBT marriage and adoption.

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>>69093842
>>69093493
SF have always been left wing and progressive

>>69092977
You have to take into consideration that the left wing voters in West Germany are the antifaggots, while in East Germany it's mostly former socialists (the PDS) who are against the refugee thing.

>>69111187
the CDU was the most "right" wing party. It was very centric though. But now that they went full left, new parties like the AfD fill the void on the centric right side.

>>69094277
This is fucking hilarious to be honest.

>>69110550
yep, the only downside was crops would fail sometimes if there was a shit winter and the harvest had to be brought in quite quickly.
Other than that people today generally work more, are more stressed and have less strong communities.
(I admit it is stressful when you are murdered by a rival lord but its also stressful when you are murdered by an lorry or a muslim refugee or an soviet tank division or a bomber plane or a serbian kill squad)

But the only reason this doesn't happen today is fertiliser from the haber process and more resistant wheat

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>>69094277
>jew jews jewing jews
pottery

SLD- old commies.
Razem- new "western style" lefties
Left wing parties will most likely continue to stay irrelevent since Polish 18-29 year olds are more right-wing than their parents.
The role of "welfare and workers" party is occupied by our current ruling party which is socially hard christcuck and economically hard soc-dem.

>>69100774
Go buy a ticket to Cuba then you massive hypocrite.

>>69100774
>t...there's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism!
>OMG WHY ARE YOU STILL EATING CHIK-FIL-A THEY HATE GAY PEOPLE!1111

>>69117242
I don't want to live in a socialist third world country. I want to live in a socialist first world country.

Wealth is distributed in such a ghoulishly unequal way that expropriation of less than 1% of the human population under global socialism would lift the world's poor to the standard of living of average Americans.

>in b4 socialism causes poverty

Socialism is the most effective way to reduce poverty and malnutrition. Starvation that occurred in Russia and China was caused by the blind adherence to inefficient central planning, something Marx never advocated for but Marxist Leninists thought was worthwhile. And when though the autocratic socialism of these countries was oftentimes nightmarish, standard of living STILL skyrocketed once the hunger pangs subsided. Life expectancy, education, and access to healthcare climbed massively in Mao's China.

In India, Southeast Asia, and Africa, decades of liberal capitalism has kept populations poor.

They are really good at propaganda and Korean people are easily brainwashed

>>69103486
But it's also about
>tards

And the "patriotic" right wing wins flawlessly desu.

>>69092630
Yes, saying you are Communist and to a lesser extent socialist is political cancer to most voters.

Unfortunately Politcians act like they are centrists when doing lefty shit.

>>69092977
>>dream of a new GDR
why not?
DDR was the best Germany

countries of shit governance creates communists.
then the communists get political administration and do more shit governance.

>>69118731
>Africa, decades of liberal capitalism has kept populations poor.
You're an idiot

They are poor because they are corrupt and dangerous as fuck so no one wants to invest there.

I have money, I have enough money to start a business in Africa. I don't because they are socialist shitholes and there's no fucking security for my investment.

You do realise Africa is a mess precisely because eft wing ideaologies were tested out there. Look at Rhodesia, look how well it was doing as a free market and how utter terrible it became once it became socialist.

But let me guess, "that's not real socialism" and you're smarter than everyone else right?

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>>69092630

Left Wing tards in Argentina are like Left Wing tards of the USA but 5 years in the past.
Basically, they follow and adopt the novelties of the American Left Wing tards, but they are lazy and learn of those novelties in translations, so they are never up to date.
Not long ago famous left wing tard tried to introduce the concept of "manspreading" in the subway, and she became an object of ridicule.


A difference between the USA and Argentina is that here abortion is illegal, but Gay marriage has been legal for many years, 2009.

If a woman wants to get an abortion, she can, doctors who perform abortions "in secret" arent persecuted and everybody knows who they are, but they have to pay for it with their own money.
So, the argument of feminists here, is that it is unfair that middle class and wealthy women can get first world level abortions, while poor women who cant pay for it get dangerous-for-their-lives abortions, so abortion should be legalized and financed by the State.

the issue is people who think abortion is immoral dont want their taxes to finance abortions.

also, because of that, left wing tards HATE the Catholic Church, it isnt rare for shirtless feminists to vandalize churches in their demonstrations, like what happened to those chicks who went to jail in Russia.

Pic Related is a "Performace of Post-Porn" in the University of Social Sciences of Buenos Aires.
Post-Porn is "foucaltian, subversive, feminist porn"
Basically, ugly unfuckable people.

Deconstructionist French Philosophy is behind most leftist idiocy here.

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>>69118731
>Socialism is the most effective way to reduce poverty and malnutrition.
http://www.businessinsider.com/venezuelas-food-shortage-keeps-getting-worse-2015-8
>standard of living STILL skyrocketed once the hunger pangs subsided.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932–33
>Mao's China
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

>>69119382
Wrong, investment in Africa is massive. Nearly all of this investment facilitates the extraction of resource wealth. Investment alone only builds wealth if this job creation will amount to more than menial labor. Unfortunately, a service sector cannot properly develop until enough capital exists in the country. Under capitalism, this is an incredibly slow process.

Third World governments are corrupt because foreign corporations empower corrupt politicians. In nations like Guatemala or Cameroon, selfish politicians give companies free access to their nation's resources in exchange for a fat bribe. These companies then plunder states for their natural wealth, creating only the most menial jobs for locals. This prevents the development of a professional class and inhibits social mobility. In most African countries, the elite are just those locals most willing to cooperate with foreign exploiters.

In this way, colonialism is effectively still occurring. It's just lost its white supremacist veneer and is now purely capitalistic. Instead of claiming Kenya for Germany and sending the German army to placate natives, enterprising capitalists now work with local leaders. No colonial troops are necessary, because suppression is usually outsourced to native militaries.

>>69119382
>corrupt and flimsy states are bad at centralized state socialism

hmmmm I wonder why

>>69119453
None of that contradicts my post remotely.

Read again.

>>69120031
You claim socialism is the most effective way to reduce malnutrition yet these countries starve their population. Read the links. If you think having phones and eating fast food is inevitable then you should consider moving to the existing communist countries. They are shit? Wow, what a coincidence. Go ahead and go live there, enjoy your lack of freedom.

>>69092630
Mainly skinny manlets and ugly girls in public universities who dress like homeless people or wanna be hipsters, watch anime and engage in public disturbance acts and making of explosives, teachers and old union workers.

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>>69120141
Both China and Russia saw huge improvements even after their disastrous economic policies should be implemented. Venezuela purports to be socialist but is not by any definition. The corrupt government nationalized the oil sector and refused to diversify. Small wonder that this society went to shit after the price of oik dropped.

Russia, China, and Cuba practiced some of the most retarded types of socialism imaginable, yet their populations STILL benefited from the rejection of capitalism. In addition to being free from the chains of foreign imperialism and domestic feudalism, these peoples became healthier and wealthier despite the bungled administrative reforms by bureaucrats who didn't understand the peasantry at all.

Libertarian socialism free from state domination (which is what Marx argued for) has all the benefits of socialism without any of the nightmarish autocracy and potential for administrative disaster. A decentralized economy will always be more efficient than an economy managed by a cabal of bureaucrats.

>>69095072
>Right-wing populists draw its support from petite bourgeoisie which is frightened to fall down into the proletariat.
For that matter, this was true when Marx was writing, and in the 1920s and 1930s, and probably has been forever.

The problem these days is that there is an alliance between the scum and the elites to destroy the middle class. What we need is an alliance between the traditional upper and middle classes to purge the degenerate elites and enslave the scum.

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>>69094277

And I thought ours were bad

>>69095283
>social democrats
>staunch supporters of the free market

>higher taxes
>more state services
>more regulation
>staunch supports of the free market

>capitalist system based on the freedom of the individual and the market
>>>
>implying this is the foundation of capitalism
>implying social democrats care about either of these things
>implying they don't claim (falsely) to care about the former and deride the latter

>>69094277
Is Soros sponsoring them too?

>>69119382
>he thinks the main problem is socialist vs. liberal economics
>not Negro rule vs. White rule
Even a "right-wing" liberal African country would be a shit-hole without White men in charge.
See also: Western countries with liberal economies getting ever shittier the less White and patriarchal they get.

>>69098817

>Welfare gets taxed for pension reasons
>taxing welfare

This is retarded.

>>69119997
That's the point, that corruption can only fuck things up that much in a centralised government like theres.

What's more, no one can chose an alternative because that would be anti socialist. Socialism is oppressive in its very nature

yeah they're insane they argue for things like a national heath service and not being at war with every country simultaneously.

thank god they're completely marginal

>>69120669
No it isn't. Socialism doesn't demand a one-party start or a comment economy.

Socialism simply demands that workers control their various industries.

>>69120761
>tfw no sane left wing that is socially conservative but economically left wing

>>69120936
Winning formula, ((((they)))) won't allow it

>>69100739
At what point did the Democrats stop counting as the American left?

>>69122743
80-90's.

>>69100739
This, 60's fucking ruined the left in USA. It became a cultural identity focused thing.

Before that we were close to becoming a social democracy under Roosevelt.

Now our politics are utterly moronic and simplistic.

Right wing is also filled with retards who hate the thought of any taxes or regulations, literally millions of lolbertarians who want to go back to the 19th century.

Both are ruled by neo-liberals who give platitudes to the public. However this last election there was a bit of a revolt whether people consciously realized it or not against this with Sanders and Trump.

Neither of them were perfect, but it was a significant change in attitude when it came to economics.

>>69092630

We have the NDP.

They were originally anti NATO, anti Zionism, pro Socialism, but dropped it all.
They're literally nothing now. Just an opportunistic establishment party that's way behind the other establishment parties.

Jury is out if the Greens will end up the same way.

>>69119422
It was just a banter

>>69123289
>Jury is out if the Greens will end up the same way.

It's already there, they barely even care about the environment considering it's an environmental party.

>>69120346
>Both China and Russia saw huge improvements even after their disastrous economic policies
Thats what happens when you kill millions for "progress"

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While not much in the way of being actually Leftist by way of economics compared to most western leftists, they're the most socially left cancer on this earth.
Since November 9th you can find them pulling out their hair and killing themselves en masse if they're not rioting or lamenting the oncoming of a second holocaust.

>>69123743
>that image

I hope to see the time when we collectively look back at all this and wonder how anyone thought that was right.

>>69123245
Roosevelt was communist scum who should have been cut up in to little bits and thrown in the ocean.

>>69094734

Why is White Guilt a thing in Sweden? You guys haven't had any sort of colonialism since the 1700s.

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>>69124344
It's a case of
>our cunt is so perfect it's racist not to let the unfortunate in!

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This is a left-wing protest against our current president.
Yes, these are their arses.
No, this is not a fake.

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>>69092630
Non-Transylvanians who come here to beg on our streets and receive welfare

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>>69094277
So they're just doing to Israel what you've been doing to us for decades

>>69093375

Internet, telecommunications, touch pads, etc were all created by government funding. They gave it to corrupt corporations to then make a profit off of it.

Also workers built them.

>>69099306
Consumptiom tax hurts the poor dumbass

>>69109552
>Feudalism is no where near as bad as uneducated leftists make it out to be

>that flag

Pottery

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>putting 'tards' at the end of a word

epic!
leftists will never recover!

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>>69118731
>In India, Southeast Asia, and Africa, decades of liberal capitalism has kept populations poor.

All these countries had heavily protected and state controlled economies.

>>69119912
>Third World governments are corrupt because foreign corporations empower corrupt politicians.

Mobutu nationalised all foreign mining companies and he was the modt corrupt leader in Africa.

>muh foreign companies is a fucking retarded argument

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>kill 1 million Iraqis for oil
>create ISIS

capitalism kills

>>69127052
>kill 1 million Iraqis for oil
The actual death toll is 500k and the vast majority of those are from sectarian militias murdering people, not Americans.

>>69127052
>implying there's anything at all wrong with killing foreigners
>implying there's anything wrong with taking resources
>implying we shouldn't be killing ISIS

>>69092630
Biggest cucks on the planet.

>>69116966
Right it's almost like there's good and shitty people in every group so when a country is Jewish majority you'll get Jews Jewing Jews. Unless you're implying brits never harm brits

>>69116966
Right it's almost like there's good and shitty people in every group so when a country is Jewish majority you'll get Jews Jewing Jews. Unless you're implying brits never harm brits>>69118731
>I don't want to live in a socialist third world country. I want to live in a socialist first world country.

Doesn't exits you fucking moron. All successful nations got there without socialism and no nations turned socialist were ever successful for long. It's unsustainable you lazy sack of shit.

>>69098631
Said the nation which didn´t build safety net for its workers, and has a literal horror of a health care system.
I think USA needed Soviet to exist, so it would be in a perputal Cold War, so it could at the least try to do everything right, because otherwise The Soviet SHark would get ahead.

>>69095072
Once you get third generation politicians, you should realize that they did loose all contact with the Earth back during generation one.
So the Stoltenbergs, the Merkels and relatives has never really touched the earth.
Generally living in some rich gated community, and only left during college/university years, where they study political science or law.

>>69099325
Thats the curse of the Communist
Chinese gommies are Soviet proxies
Japan gommies are Chinese proxies
and then Soviet was no more

>>69104558
>tfw th ecurrent """Prime Minister""" in Australia is a literal traitor who brazenly proclaims his treachery in public addresses
>tfw the police and courts can't prosecute him even though he's a criminal
>tfw he leads the mainstream centre-right party
>tfw the left is even worse

>>69129264
I don´t think half assed proxy warfare yields results.
I agree that there is nothing wrong with doing it.
But i think we could bomb and shoot some more

>>69130303
I agree, we should just kill our enemies. The current approach seems very Canadian to me.

>>69094277
I guess the Jew's Jews would have to be even more Jewish

>>69122743
Sometime under Reagan

>>69124247
Nah, he was a bourgie anticommunist who figured out how to keep his business profits and cuck American socialists out of getting a revolution

>>69126946
Nationalization for nationalization's fake is never preferable. In Congo, as in Zimbabwe and present-day Nicaragua, state seizure of private enterprise doesn't lead to profits being redistributed to anybody except the president and his cronies.

I think liberals here have their hearts in the right place, yet they are going about making changes all wrong. Instead of standing around and whining about things they want or should be changed they need to make the change themselves. They need to participate more in the political process instead of tweetjng about what they want changed. They should get in contact with their elected officials and speak to them about what they want.

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>>69099078
>>69099119
>>69099235
>>69099350
>>69100661

Korea, what about Megalians? Do they have any true sway in the left over there?

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>Greece
>Yes, they are

>>69092977
Who are the black voters

>>69138495
Based

>>69138647
conservatives

>>69096467
So do the seps style themselves as gommies or what?