How's the wage slave life in your country? My settings;

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>>68939513
>660€ to spend other stuff.
That's all what I receive after taxes (My wage is 680 euros per month)
After all these shitty payments (utilities, food, internet etc) I've got only 230 euros to spend on whatever I want.

>>68939719
At least booze is cheap there

3.2k use about half for expenses the rest is spending/saving money

>minimum wage here is almost 800 reais (240 dollars) a month
>ultra small apartments rent = 1200 reais
>mfw you can't even pay your rent with a minimum wage
>mfw if you're a legit proletarian, you have to live in the favelas

And everything here is overpriced. Stop complaining.

>>68939947
The purchasing power is much higher there when the commie government doesn't tax you to death

>>68939513
>870~ euro after tax
>150 euro rent
>100 euro electricity
>50 euro water
>25 euro internet + phone + satellite TV
>food ranges from 100-200 so I'll put it at 150
>83 euro car insurance
>about 100 euro fuel

218~ Euro here
wake me up

>>68941176
Were the things better before the denbts? At least the rent isn't high there

>>68941318
>At least the rent isn't high there
Βecause I live in a small 43 sqm shithole

>Were the things better before the denbts
A lil' bit.

>>68941383
>Βecause I live in a small 43 sqm shithole
I live in 48m2 :DDDDDD and a nigger area fucking sucks, but can't move to a smaller town since no jobs there

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>>68939513
>2200€ after tax
>520€ on rent, water and electricity
>10€ on Internet
>20€ on phone bill
>600€ on food

Left with around a 1000€ bucks to spend on stuff. The vast majority of that usually just goes to savings. Also a great job.

>>68941537
RIP Pekka

>>68940095
I live in commiefornia so my paycheck gets pretty cucked lel

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>>68941383
>43 sqm
That's a pretty good size for a single person.

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>>68941847
>single person.
That's where you're wrong, both sadly and thankfully.

>>68941886
you live with your mom?

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>>68942002

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>>68942002
Nah.
If I were to live like that with my mother I'd had already offed myself.

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>>68939513
>4500€
>Yeeeeha
>2000€ after taxes
>It... It still worth the effort, right?
>Income taxes come in, 2000€ per year
>But... But...
>At least I hown my appartment
>350€/m for charges, water, electricity and internet not included

>>68941176
>150 euro rent

I am a student but my father had like 4000€ after taxes + 1000€ rental income.

Sounds good? With 4 children not so much

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>>68942112
That is what happens when you live in a shit area and everything looks like pic related

>>68939513
I live in upstate ny, rent in a safe area here is $1100-1400 for a 2bd. Could pay $650 but dont want problems, my friend did and there was a drug den 2 doors down. ----__-----

>>68942227
fuck, looks a bit like Brazil

>>68942067
>5.5k before taxes
>3.2k after taxes
wew

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im a pizza chef
>take home
about $1100
>rent
i bought a 120sqm apartment cash few years ago
>bills
about $120/month
>food
not much, i eat at work twice a day
>fuel
about $150/month
>phone
i top up about $5 every 3 month

not that bad apart from working into night every day and working most weekends

>>68942195
Your mom was working? My parents had earned 5000€ combined and we lived pretty comfy life, but then again 5000€ was a lot more money 15 years ago, not anymore

>>68939513
Wouldn't know.

I live in a very expensive house and save nearly my entire income.

Thanks mom and dad!!! :))

>>68942278
Well.
No urban planning.
People built everywhere, and however they wanted to.

Suburbs are way more butifel and comfy though.

>>68942320
mom just 400€
But again. It´s not that much if you have 4children who all are gonna study.

>>68942371
Yeah I understand we were only 2 children

>>68942365
>No urban planning.
>People built everywhere, and however they wanted to.

Sounds even more like Brazil

>450E wage
>250E all rent except internet
>100E internet+TV+mobile+public transport
>100E food
>left with nothing

you people have it great

>>68942402
>tfw Europe's Brazil

Sounds just about right.

>>68942279
I am including the secret hidden taxes that don't appear on the paper your boss give you.

Yes, in France, you must pay to have the privilege of giving someone a job.

>>68942365
>No urban planning.
It's like a bizzarro world there. Here you can't build nothing if it's not according to "a plan"

>>68942477
It's caaaaaaaaaled Southern Europe.

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>>68942227
Meh, it looks a bit worse than average russian industrial city 2bh :c

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>mfw I get nearly 800$ per fortnight in autismbux on top of my wage

>>68942508
desu that is a pic of the area I live in.
Infested by lowlife K*rds, Alb*s, Gr**ks and Ukr*inians/other slavs.

And to think, it is 2-3 kms away from Acropolis.
>Shows how much we care about our city.

>>68942598
I've been in athens once, I happen to pass through Omonia Square. What the fuck?? there were like 100 hobos doing heroin on the floor

>>68942562
mining

>>68942469
To be fair I was also counting stuff like life insurance, health insurance and retirement lel

>>68942706
Used to be druggies and hobos
Now it's """"""""""refugees""""""""""" and other MENA niggers.

>unemployment
>starves to death

>>68942706
who the fuck goes to athens? there's tourist islands not to be bothered with the degenerates
Honestly I've been all around of Europe pretty much and the only time I've been mugged was in Athens. Not sure if they were gypsies, refugees or greek junkies

>>68942730
Those, and others things are the 21 (not joking) lines on the pay paper.

My boss had to pay taxes before he can print an number on the top of the paper.

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>>68939513
>$2000 a month
>$200 taxes
>$0 rent (own my """home""")
>$0 electricity (solar power)
>$25 water
>$40 internet
>$20 phone
>$120 food
>gasoline costs vary wildly because I sometimes decide to go on road trips, luckily I drive a 70 mile per gallon motorcycle so gas still never fucks my shit up too much
>$85 vehicle insurance
>$100 health insurance

I keep about $1300 of the $2000 I make per month, I buy one video game per month, then use half of what's left to buy gold/silver and save the other half.

I live like a homeless man b-but at least I get to keep my money, r-right fellow Ameribros?

>>68942227
>tfw you live in a holiday country
>tfw you have to live in this shit part of it

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>>68943022
>$200 taxes
Why don't I live in the US

>>68939513
>work shift with almost no free time
>when I'm not working I'm on call
>wage slave to the max
>2200-2400€ after tax
>900€ rent, electricity and all that shit
>100€ gasoline
>60€ car insurance
>300€ food
>40€ phone and internet
= 800-1000€

Wage slave life fucking sucks, I'll quit soon and study at a university, got 20k saved so I don't have to live like a poorfag.
I'm 25 now, I either go back to school now or be a fucking slave until I die.

>>68943296
welche ausbildung?

>>68943349
Was ich jetzt mache oder was ich machen möchte?

>>68943290
its only like this in arizona new mexico and texas. i used to live in illinois and my taxes were literally quadruple what they are now

>>68943387
beides

>>68943296
Hoffe in deinem Interesse dass es ein MINT Studium, was nicht gerade Mathe, Bio oder Physik ist, ist.

>>68943405
>Kunstgeschichte

>Not a single Yugo poster ITT

:^)

>>68943022
You my friend are what I aspire to be one day. (Except with more money)

Tell me, did you buy a cheap a-frame cabin prefab house and undeveloped land then added utilities and shit or did you inherit/buy regular house

>>68943296
>2200-2400€ after tax
That's great salary :DD I've already graduated last summer no need going back to school unless for doctorate
>>68943389
I didn't know there was that much difference between the states

>>68943453
I gonne retire early somewhere in rural Spain, grow my own melons and surf 4chan all day.

>>68943498
>I gonne retire early somewhere in rural Spain

I wouldn't do that if i were you.
Nationalism in on the rise in Spain and they soon will start hunting down the tourists and immigrants

Spainiards being nice and hospitable is a lie.
They are just good at pretending they care but deep down they are ready to slit your throat

>>68943491
There is a big difference between states and some slight difference between cities

>>68943498
Pretty much the life I want, me my wife, our dogs, some chickens and a garden/greenhouse for most of the food

Only work I would need to do would be freelance website development and IT consulting to make ends meet here and there.

Find a more comfy early retirement plan, prove me wrong!

>>68943349
Ich bin Elektroniker für Betriebstechnik, bin jedoch als Kraftwerker im Kraftwerk tätig (mit mieser Lohngruppe).

>>68943405
Ich tendiere eher zur Informatik, bin mir aber noch nicht 100% sicher.
Was ist denn mit Mathe, Bio oder Physik nicht in Ordnung?

>>68943736
>Update
ok i´ll go to rural portugal instead, speak both.

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>>68943453
i bought an absolute piece of shit trailer that someone had abandoned in the desert, the agency that owned the plot of land said it was so far past the point of no return that if i bought the land for $800 they would just throw in the trailer too. so i spent all $2000 of my money saved up on fixing it until it was somewhat livable. the land + trailer probably ended up costing me $4000 total, and the solar panels cost another $2000. so while it took 6 grand out of me at first, I haven't paid a cent towards rent or electricity in years.

i would not recommend doing this. i do recommend buying a home in the southwest, but not a shitty project home

>>68943761
Bio = Promotionszwang, ebenso Physik.
Also nochmal 4-5 Jahre.
Viele Jobs nur für die Forschung.

Kannst du dich nicht in deinem Bereich weiterbilden?
FH Elektrotechnik?
Würde doch wie die Faust aufs Auge passen.

>>68943777
We're full
The only place available in Portugal for you is Lisbon but i bet you'll love it.
Yes go to Lisbon please ehehe (*mischevious laugh*)

>>68943761
TU Elektrotechnik würde ich nicht machen, die Wahrscheinlichkeit ist zu hoch, dass du es nicht packst.

I am lucky for a wage slave since my boss is generous but I work 39.5 hours a week for 10 euros an hour
>380 euros after taxes
>Live at home
>Parents refuse to take rent money because I am still a student(taking a break for the year)
>No car
>No bills
>Spend about 50 euros a week on random shit, stick the rest in the bank
>Working two months and have about 2500 euro saved up just sitting there.

It is nice but I have no time or friends so I just play PS4 when I come and masturbate before bed.

>>68943777
come to murica we need successful whites

>>68943944
nothing wrong with that, sounds pretty comfy

>>68939513
I get about 18K after taxes and insurance each month.
40% of that goes to my family for bills and utilities.
Barely scraping by pay check to pay checks.

At least my health insurance is great.

>>68943944
>Parents refuse to take rent

t_b_h the opposite would be pretty strange

After taxes, water and everything i can only spend around 10 dollars for myself.
Life sucks mangs

>>68943989
>nothing wrong with that, sounds pretty comfy
It is anon and I don't want it to end.

>>68944030
I even offered to give them 50 euros out of my paycheck just for food and shit but they refuse.

>>68943761

Das >>68943846 und >>68943892

Das Problem ist, dass es halt drauf ankommt wohin Du willst. Wirtschaft? Dann ist ein FH Studium optimal, da praxisbezogener (was nicht heißt, dass es leichter ist) oder halt an einer Universität, sofern Du später gerne Mal in Richtung Forschung (R&D) willst.

Bio ist für die Tonne, da es dafür wortwörtlich keine passende Jobs gibts und man sich überqualifizieren muss, um überhaupt eine Chance zu hbaen. Physik und Mathe sind halt auch nochmal anspruchsvoll, aber die meisten Anwendungen die solche Absolventen machen liegen dann eher in der Informatik.

Würde also evt. mit ET Erfahrung und Profil
Richtung Technische Informatik oder Mechatronik (mit Programmierkenntnissen aneignen) raten. Einfach Mal in das jeweilige Curriculum schauen.

>>68944028
consider drug trade
>duterte is watching

>>68944110
>Du später gerne Mal in Richtung Forschung (R&D) willst.

Im Prinzip geben ich dir Recht, aber der Knabe ist jetzt schon 25, er wäre dann mindestens 30 nach dem Master, eher ü32.
Dann nach einer Ing Promotion ü35 für den Berufseinstieg. zu alt

>>68944175
Habe schon ganz interessante Lebensläufe gesehen, die auch erst "später" studiert haben und dann mit mitte 30 in die Forschung gegangen sind.

Es kommt halt immer drauf an, was du noch so vorzeigen kannst. Neben passende Noten dann halt einfach passende Projekte, Protoypen, Kontakte zu Professoren aufbauen, entsprechende Werkstudenten / Tutor-Nebentätigkeiten. Kenne auch einen Fall, Frau, die mit Ende 40 ihren Doktor gemacht hat und nun Professorin im Lehrstuhl ist. Wenn das Herz und der Wille da ist, kann man es probieren, sofern man das Risiko eingehen will. Typsache eben

>>68944313
Bei der Befristungspraxis im Wissenschaftsbetrieb würde eher nicht darauf setzen.

>>68939513
It could be worse
>average wage around 8000 (min) -10000 pesos
>500-625 €
>rent, taxes, food, etc insanely high
>end (with luck and considering you don't go out, waste money in garbage, etc) with around 100-150 €
>services are garbage
>crime everywhere
>taxes go to gibsmedats for bolivians
>get called poor and mocked by the elite
>get called a traitor if you leave your country because opportunities and stuff
Be happy with your life, Pekka. Or move to a better place

>>68943846
>>68943892
>>68944110
>>68944175
>>68944313
Danke für die Anregungen, ich werde mich weiter über mögliche Alternativen informieren.

Hauptsächlich suche ich nach einem Studiengang der interessant ist und welcher mir eventuell auch ermöglicht zeitweise im Ausland zu arbeiten.
Gehalt und Karriere ansich sind für mich erstmal zweitrangig, ich möchte Spaß an der Arbeit haben, denn wie ihr wisst verbringt man einen Großteil seines Lebens dort.

>around 850€ after taxes
>220€ rent
>30€ electricity,water,gas
>20€ internet
>20€ phone
>60€ food
=350€

500€ for other stuff. Just fucking kill me

>>68945140
>60€ food
What do you eat?

>>68945286
Except money I also get pic related which I use to buy food worth about 75€ which would make it 135€ total but the 75€ is like "bonus" with each paycheck

10 years experience programmer in a 150+ employees company

2600€ salary on my account every month

>400€ for the house mortgage
>20€ water
>50€ electricity
>5€ phone
>240€ gasoline
>30€ car insurance
>200€ food
>220€ revenue tax
>125€ housing tax
>125€ local taxes

Pretty much around 1000 euros left, I'm sure I forgot some stupid things.

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>>68945498
fug

>>68945554

We have those as well, it's called by us "tickets restaurants".
Usually the empyer pays half and you're supposed to spend it at lunch when you work.
Everyone I know shop for groceries with it. Restaurants got pissed and try to pass a law to forbid more than 2 tickets pro person and banning its usage on weekends.

>>68945531
>10 years experience programmer in a 150+ employees company
>2600€ salary on my account every month

Seniors are earning 4-5k here.
France, damn.

>>68945531
I make more than you and I have less than 1 year experience lmoa

>>68945531
>30€ car insurance
What car do you have? Or are the car insurances lower overall in France

>>68945689
>2600€ salary on my account every month
>Seniors are earning 4-5k here.
I think he means what he gets after taxes. I earn 3800-4200€ but I get about 2000-2200€ after taxes

>>68945805
That's not the issue Finland-bro. Basically being senior here means you have 2500€~ left to spend on whatever shit you want after taxes and paying all your bills.

>>68945689
>>68945705
>>68945805


The face revenue for 2600€ pro month is 43k€ before taxes annually (3500€ before taxes, not included annual taxes)
I guess it's what is supposed to be compared.

I wouldn't mind changing jobs but the job market where I live is pretty fucked up. I have to drive 60 km daily in my Fiat Panda and I hate it every single day.

>>68945715
Fiat Panda. Only good thing about it is the low insurance cost.

>>68945674
I pay 10-20% of its worth and grocery shops are trying to limit their usage to max 5 per grocery bin. Better restaurants dont accept them and others wont give you change back but they are otherwise not limiting them. They dont like them either

>>68945897
>I have to drive 60 km daily in my Fiat Panda and I hate it every single day.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>68946029
gtfo

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>>68945897
>I have to drive 60 km daily in my Fiat Panda

>>68946029
>>68946513
So fucking funny.
He could buy a better car if he wanted, so what?

>>68946662
>10 years experience as a programmer
>still driving a wage cuck car

>>68947021

I'm sparing money right now in order to buy something better (and a new roof insulation for the house)
I wouldn't mind keeping my shit if it weren't for the long commute.

>>68947021
Try to find a parking space for a big car in a city

>>68943802
Man I envy you, living you own life free of rent/electricity payments, in the middle of the desert, throw in some internet and thats a 10/10 home to me, also you live in one of the best countries in the entire world, what are you even complaining about?

>>68948179
>buy a trailer
>cook some meth in the desert
>if you know what I mean

>€1200 per month
>€200 rent food and utilities
>€200 savings
>€800 alcohol

suffering

>>68948311
You're a fucking retard if you really spend that much on alcohol. You deserve to suffer.

>>68948311
>€1200 per month
Do you live in a mansion or something?

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>being student in University
>working part-time
>still have more money over as a student than most of you fulltime

Dunno if I do something right or you do something wrong

>parents ain't paying a dime
>not owning a car

>1100€
>750€ after taxes
>300€ rent (electricity included)
>20€ internet
>300€ food, cigs, alcohol

Doesn't look that good.

>>68952383
>750€ after taxes
What? are you woking full time?

>300 euro
>25 electricity and shit
>500 euro on alcohol

>>68953244
>500 euro on alcohol
about the same

>>68939513
>4300€ before tax. 4000€ after (without adds)
>160 sq m2 apartments
>200€ water+gas+heating+electricity
>8€ internet
>9€ phone unlimited 4g
>90€ petrol
>800€ food i don't eat much i just buy alot of fruits and berries
every month 1000€ goes to bank

>>68939513
Should have lived with your parents for couple of years while working to the just buy a small apartment instead of subjecting yourself to jewery known as rent.

>>68939513
>4200€ before taxes
>2600€ after tax
>600€ rent
>200€ food
>200€ other things
~1600€ left for myself

>>68939513
My homeland –> Slovakia

> around 300 € after taxes
> 150 € rent for your one-room flat
> 100 € for water, electricity, internet and so on
> 20 € for bread rolls, rice and potatos
> 30 € for alcohol to forget on your life
= 0 €

If you will do something wrong, last few days you will be hungry

>>68962036
In Slovakia you can buy liter of extremely horrible vodka for 4 €, so you can buy about 7.5 litres of vodka for yourself