Ok /int/, tell me about the mysterious city of porto. What is

>>68598696
It's okay. It's getting too big, and starting to show symptoms of it.

People in Lisbon think that Portugal is just Lisbon, people in Porto are starting to think that North Portugal is just Porto. Nowhere near at the same annoyance level, but still. At least they aren't as rude.

Great city. Great food and people.

File: Offspring.jpg (91KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 960x720px

>>68598696
It's were i live atm, but im from a small village of Minho, if you are diaspora please come back if not fuck off we are full.
What is the people like compared to the rest of Portugal? Actual Portuguese in the real seance of the word since we are the ones that "colonize" the rest of country after reconquista.

link is an amateur singer (my grandmother) with a alias .https://resendedias.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/ele-era-do-mar/

If you want to see average people is pic related

>>68598696
Actually, I have been there during a holiday trip. It's really nice, beautiful bridges and amazing seafood and really cheap. I wish I could afford to go there when I'm old, to live there the rest of my life.

>>68599788
That's exactly how i feel, but i have to work in Belgium 4 months and 7 months as a fishermen just to make 25keuros per month, just so my gf can study in college and give a proper live to my 3 year old. Is not easy being Portuguese never think it is

>>68599644
Oh pls, stop the "muh whiteness" meme, children are always lighter pigmented.
We get it you're not quarter-negroid Maghrebis and nobody who has half a clue about Yurop thinks that unless they're memeing, but even here I'd say (adult) light brown is most common hair and blue eyes are minority (compared to green and light brown), so I seriously doubt it's any higher that far South

>>68599183
Yes they are
Both portofaggots and lisboniggers act like they own the place when they come to Algarve
And then every summer you hear about fights between those idiots and the locals in nightclubs

>>68600143
It's memeing Brudi. I for my part havn't seen much brown people in Portugal or Spain desu

>>68600254
Of course not (assuming brown people = actual Arabs with inflated lips, flared noses and frizzy hair), but they still are Southern Euros, therefore >90% brown-eyed and -haired

>>68600143
Im not talking about hair colour ofc we have mostly dark hair, im talking as you said about skin pigmentation . we have dark hair and light brown eyes . atleast 90%
hair, but she worked as fish seller

>>68600388
>hair, but she worked as fish seller
dont mind this, im tired sorry

>>68600388
>>68600430
Yeah that's what I'm thinking, you of course don't have the Negroid features I mentioned here >>68600324

>>68600430
>>68600388
>atleast 90% hair
Ah, the good old Portuguese female moustache.

>>68600465
Portuguese with north African ancestor's are all over the place, but properly labeled , as mostly will be named the following names : Moura, Mourao, Oliveira (not always true in this one),Coelho, amaro etc.

Its easy to know who the "new Christians" but the public shaming was banned under the good Marques de Pombal

>>68600602
Foi um erro.
Cria dizer 90% cabelo preto.
Ia dizer que no link que postei da musica da minha avo, vez portugueses normais que trabalhavam na pesca e estavam expostos ao sol 24/7

>>68600659
Not true, though. Since names only come by the father, you can have a 50% nigger without that name, and a 1% nigger with it.

Also, the new christians name is a meme. Up until the 50's, rural areas people didn't have surnames either, and they were the most christian of all.

>>68600712
I know mate, I'm just ribbing.

>>68600773
I dont mean it has bulletproof way, but never the less a obvious way, just because it has flaw's does not mean it is not true.
And my family name is Romano explain me that please

>>68600884
Well, you waz romans n shiet.

But the name thing is a meme. It happened to everyone, not just the jews and niggers. I know a dude named "Porta" (not Portas) because his great-grandfather had a double door in his village house, and they needed a way to differentiate between different Manueis.

Up until the 30's or so people were called "do/da <name of parent>" as in Manuel do Rodrigo or something like that.

>>68601005
Exactly my gf name is Braga, and my father side is Magalhães because hes family lived around torre de Magalhães, like i said i know is very subjective but family names do provide information about the family origin

>>68601159
Yeah, but it doesn't mistake "peasant" for "slave" in any way. If you were noble you'd know.

>>68600388
You have blonds though right? Is there a history behind them or are they just natives who managed to slip by?

>>68601182
Yeas i know.
Im not trying to glorify my bloodline in anyway, but to show is completely average .
In fact i know my family were peasants

>>68601206
Blondism exists naturally at a low frequency in Southern Europe. Blond Portuguese are a minority but they exist, and the fact that they're blond isn't necessarily indicative of any foreign ancestry. They would probably be average Portuguese, genotypically.

>>68601206
The mutation still occurred. We have some Celtic and Germanic blood. We have thin faces with long noses and deep eyes (semitic blood helped too), as opposed to completely flat cheeks like the Anglos or Chinks.

It's just that we're further away from Finland (where it started,I think) for it to occur as often. I'd put it at 10% overall, but it's usually dirty blonds, not white hair.

Hazel eyes are a lot more common ~20%, and so are blues. At least, nobody bats an eye if you have blue eyes.

>>68601206
I have a theory .
My gh is light brown, and mi daughter (pic posted above) in less degree also has it. And the family name of my gh is Braga were the suebi made they're capital so she is probably a legit descendant of a rape

>>68601360
It's also not uncommon for people to be born blond and get dark hair by 10, like I did.

I also have ginger beard highlights and green eyes, and that's fairly common as well.

>>68601380
>My gh is light brown
My gf also has light brown hair *


what is wrong with me today

File: light_weights.jpg (337KB, 1260x1260px) Image search: [Google]

337KB, 1260x1260px

>>68601443
>what's wrong with me
>today
glug glug

>>68601300
yea this makes much more sense, but we did had naturally migration of other Europeans into the peninsula

>>68600773
There are also numerous names which have been thoroughly misidentified as converso names. My name is like this and it pisses me off.

>>68601380
Swabians are amongst the darkest Germans though, it's probably more likely that light pigmentation is either a native mutation, an older migration, or a Gothic relic

>>68601498
t. Pereira

speaking off, both Alberto and Barbosa are germanic names, kek.

>>68601479
You got me, i just had a few during dinner.
I do like shitposting

>>68601537
keep the pic, it trigger the frogs.

>>68601491
Yes, I am U106 myself (family is from Braga and Madeira). Nonetheless, my eyes are amber and my hair dark brown.

You have to remember that the Suebi constituted ~30,000-45,000 at a time when the population of Iberia was around 4 million. It is not possible that they would have left a significant genetic footprint and the genetic surveys of Portugal mostly confirm this.

>>68601523
No, I'm not a Pereira. My name starts with Vas - I'm sure you can figure it out. But Pereira is an excellent example of Portuguese noble names being misidentified as Jewish.

>>68601595
Vasco?
Vasconecelos?

File: blonde2.jpg (42KB, 450x535px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 450x535px

>>68601300
>>68601206

We exist yes.

Not common. But not rare.

My hair is like pic related.


I do have a very Portuguese face though, even though my nose is quite..arhm.. "strong".

>>68601628
Yes. I wish you didn't post it though desu. My fault, I guess.

File: 1467458121331.jpg (204KB, 1280x800px) Image search: [Google]

204KB, 1280x800px

>>68598696
It's a really nice city with a lot of sightseeing and places to visit, I don't know how the average life is because I haven't visited in awhile. It also has that pleasant northern portuguese climate. FC Porto fans are fags tho

File: little_french_girl.jpg (82KB, 508x435px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 508x435px

>>68598696
It's a bit over-hyped here, but if you're american you have to try the Francesinha. You yanks usually like it, and Porto is the place for them.

Do try other things, though.

File: Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif (83KB, 800x552px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 800x552px

>>68601568
Gotta get myself tested too some time, but I hate the Jewish business practice of 23andme to charge $100 just for shipping from/to Yurop on top of the $100 for the test itself
Y-DNA wise, it's very likely for me to end up "Celtic" U152 based on geography (left of Rhine where it makes the bend), but if I could choose, C-V20 would be the coolest as it's the oldest European one and would nicely complement muh Cro-Magnon pheno

>>68601518
As if it matters. Tbh I like brown girls actually, especially the ones from there. Probably you wouldn't say no, if one finds you attractive.

Why is it that Portuguese threads are genuinely the most interesting on /int/? They never devolve into shitposting, and the OP always gets helpful replies.

>>68601562
Already saved it, keked
>>68601568
>>68601803

pic related

File: 1448397291963.jpg (91KB, 387x567px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 387x567px

>>68602013

>>68601537
>>68601562
Oh that's even harmless compared to my region, best friend's grandpa had a 1 litre bottle or more per day, he died a few years ago, aged 92. Wine (mixed with sparkling water) is by far the most common pub drink here too, so I'd love to see a map like that broken to county level

File: 1480455251523.png (120KB, 644x801px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 644x801px

>>68601984
The presence of the Nortenhos insures a quiet thread with good discussion every time.

We just bombard you with Francesinhas.

File: 23.png (143KB, 1668x761px) Image search: [Google]

143KB, 1668x761px

>>68601803
Yes, it was quite expensive for me also even though I bought it on sale ($160 USD, including shipping).

Myself, I didn't really have any expectations when I ordered it. I sort of assumed that I'd be R1b and mostly Iberian and British but that's about it.

File: 1474790899334.jpg (503KB, 1286x868px) Image search: [Google]

503KB, 1286x868px

>>68602240

File: sopas de cavalo cansado.jpg (36KB, 259x180px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 259x180px

>>68601984
>they never devolve into shitposting
Not completely true, but sure. I've seen a couple of nice digs/shitposting on non-Portugal threads by Portuguese, though.

We're genuinely pretty calm and civilised, oddly enough.

I feel like we also try to keep a good impression, since we're easy to get bunched up with Brazilian and/or Spanish stereotypes, which we're very different from, to be frank.

That and we like the attention, tbf. We often feel forgotten in the international stage that we try to imprint our stuff and make a good impression when we have the chance, which also ends up in the WE WUZ memes we keep posting/getting posted about.

At least that's what I think.

>>68602226
>1 litre bottle or more per day
That's about the par for the course for every old geezer around here.

There's even a meme food called "tired horse soup" that's wine, bread, honey and cinamon that old cunts eat in the morning to kick-start their dusty system and go to work on the field. It doesn't even taste good, desu. Not to mention putting liquor in their morning coffee and drinking one bottle of wine across lunch and dinner on any regular week day.

>>68602332
AHAHAHAHAHA.

Holy shit that is glorious. Missing some

>muh celts
>muh suebi

But beyond that it's perfect.

As a minhoto 9/10.

File: atlantid.png (719KB, 1914x704px) Image search: [Google]

719KB, 1914x704px

>>68602260
>British and Iberian

If it's Western Iberian than you must be one of these two.

>>68602366
Yeah, we got something similar but mostly dying out, my grandma used to make bread+wine soup too (with white wine though), of course was only for the adults

File: 1462466885562.jpg (268KB, 1286x880px) Image search: [Google]

268KB, 1286x880px

>>68602459
Havia um tipo no /luso/ que os fazia, mas não sei se ainda anda por cá

>>68602676
Eu fiz um de Coimbra, mas não tenho neste PC.

Tenho de o editar para acrescentar um vinho da Bairrada e uns enchidos de Arganil.

>>68602662
Almost. I'm Paleoatlantid, apparently.

And, yes, Western Iberian. My father is Portuguese.

File: Vintage Portugal.jpg (167KB, 1140x641px) Image search: [Google]

167KB, 1140x641px

>>68602366
>>68602332
>>68602240
Obrigado Anon's. I love Portugal, I even started learning the language, but it's sort of fallen by the wayside.

I'm probably going to Brazil next year though, so it will give me some incentive to learn it. Hopefully next time I'm in the UK I can manage to visit o melhor pais.

>>68602777
Weird. We literally couldn't be further away from NZ.

>>68602676
Está incrivel, posta mais.

>>68602733
> Paleoatlantid

Damn I searched google and it looks scary as fuck.

>>68602777

Due come visit. I've met plenty of people in Erasmus but I never really met a Kiwi.

Also try and learn European Portuguese if you come here.

A- It sounds better (bias I know)
B-Girls will go crazy for it (Brazillian accent usually drives them away here)

File: 1454700939344.jpg (551KB, 1286x868px) Image search: [Google]

551KB, 1286x868px

>>68603016

>>68603047
Oh hey, that's the one I made! >>68602717

Add some Chouriços de Arganil on the wall if you can. It's too student-y and not enough about the region as a whole, which is a shame.

Maybe missing a leitão da bairrada, but there's no good way to put it.

>>68603047
Damn.

Brilliant.

File: Portuguese culture.jpg (241KB, 1280x597px) Image search: [Google]

241KB, 1280x597px

>>68602936
Yes, but Portugal is close to my heart.

>>68603016
I've heard you guys are friendly to foreigners. We're a bit like Australians but more reserved.

Yes and I'll try and avoid the você. Honestly any foreigner speaking Portuguese isn't going to get either accent right though.

File: 1478386087144.png (650KB, 640x804px) Image search: [Google]

650KB, 640x804px

>>68603163
We use você, but only sometimes.

Kinda weird to explain.

Out of curiosity, what makes you like Portugal so much?

>>68603163
We don't mind the accent as long as the grammar constructions are right. It's honestly good enough you don't say "gracias". English will do you fine as well.

>>68603244
I've stopped using você altogether. Either "tu" for informal/work (even with my superiors, which was odd at first, but it removes so much faffing around) or "o senhor" for people I don't know/professors.

File: portuking.jpg (2MB, 4000x1952px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4000x1952px

>>68603163
Diasporafag?

File: Portuguese people.jpg (438KB, 3328x1997px) Image search: [Google]

438KB, 3328x1997px

>>68603244
It's hard to explain. I started learning Portuguese on a whim, but then grew to love the culture. I can relate to your melancholy more than to the typical Southern European culture.

Also your imperial history is really underrated. You ruled the Oceans before Britain did.I was in Macau two years ago, and I loved seeing your architecture. There's so many traces of the old empire you've left across the world.

>>68603336
HUEHUHEUE LONGA VIDA O REI DO BUNDA

>>68603511
Literally me on all of those

You're a weird dude. Here we go telling people we wuz and how everyone else wuzn't, and then there's a redpilled guy who believes it all, but we don't know what to do with you.

This must be what a dog feels like when he catches the mailman's van.

>>68603612
Teach me the ways of the tuga anon. I will be your disciple. We will catch cod and drink Port, while reminiscing about the past.

File: 20150212_182312.jpg (2MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3264x2448px

For bonus meme purposes here's some feijoada I made.

File: 1464118493080.gif (9KB, 633x758px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 633x758px

>>68603511

Well thanks.
Made me fell kinda happy.

Problem with Portugal is that we are dying in a way.

We have no culture left to young people. All Americanized.

Lisbon has become such a hot spot of African and Brazillian culture that is kinda disgusting.

Hip-Hop is the norm for kids these days.

We're too centralized honestly.

Coimbra, Porto, Braga, Guimarães. That's the real Portugal left.


Ever since I was treated as foreigner in Lisbon (they thought I was tourist from somewhere in Northern Europe) I've grown a dislike for Portugal unfortunately.

>>68603878
>Hip-Hop
No one listen to that

File: 1459452803459.jpg (85KB, 500x334px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 500x334px

>>68603919
Wrong.

This is trending in Youtube Portugal right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LGl-dgt1ps

Some Lisbon Moor singing complaining about "sirens" and that he doesn't want that for her mulato daughter.lmao.

>>68603878
Reconquista do Lisboa AGORA

I kind of feel your pain. We're an Anglo country so we're even more Americanized than any European country, but we never really had our own identity. Maybe if you knew some locals in Lisbon you might be able to find the Portuguese heart of the city.

Auckland is the same here. Every big city becomes globalized and feels "less local"

>>68604110
That is why dislike Globalism honestly.

Every city looks the same.

Plus mass immigration ruins cities. Visiting Paris last year was dreadful, never returning there.

But hey a foreigner interested in our culture, that's a plus.

>>68603878
Stop complaining about the problem of every european country.Paris,London,Rome are hotspots for foreign culture aswell

>>68603691
>drink Port
That's not even that Portuguese a habit. It was made to sell to the Brits. We usually just drink the local shizz, desu.

Saudade is a bit of a meme except in special occasions like Fado (proper Coimbra fado, not sissy Lisbon fado). We're just stoic most of the time, I'd say.

Bacalhau is true, but you need a mother/grandmother to cook it for you and teach you.

That's not to say we don't do either, but doing it all would be tryhard, and we don't usually like tryhards (see stoicism above).

I guess emigration is the Portuguese thing, which you could do whilst being in Portugal.
The real thing you have to do to be Portuguese is to solve problems on the fly, as slyly as you can.

>>68603869
Looks pretty good, but a couple pointers:
Don't use green beans.
Use a bit more cabbage.
Use Bay leaves if you have access to them.
Cook the rice separately and place it separately. Each fork scoop should bring the sauce and beans together with the rice.

Also, proper feijoada has the magical property of tasting even better the next day when re-heated, so you'll know when you've done it right. It must condense or precipitate something chemical or something. It's fucking magic.

>>68604226
It's also nice to have a pretty well defined quarantine. If only they didn't rule everything else and stole all the money, though.

>>68604226
Yes they suffer from the same problems.

Honestly Portugal for me ends at Coimbra pretty much.


A- The people of Lisbon don't look like me, my friends, or my family.
B-Their culture seems so.. different, even if it's what sells to the rest of Europe.
C-They clearly have a different view of themselves that we do not have.

>>68604263
Thanks for the pointers anon. I've heard about the "desenrascar" attitude.That's kind of similar to New Zealand culture.

Yeah I don't think my Feijoada was very authentic. The bean thing was just a side dish though.

> Tfw there are no Portuguese restaurants in my city :(

File: migas.jpg (148KB, 1000x667px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 1000x667px

>>68604478
I don't honestly think that desenrascanço is unique to us, but it is a requirement nontheless.

Stay strong, Kiwi. Portuguese food isn't too complex to make until you get into pastries.

Try Caldo Verde for a start, or maybe Migas (can you tell that it's kale season?). The big Portuguese dishes are fine, but are mostly celebratory and require some effort to cook, and you can't trust bacalhau that far away from us. Try simple stuff that we eat every day that isn't that showy but it's still delicious.

Good olive oil is a must, though.

>>68604612
Thanks anon, it's been good chatting with you tugas. I have a bunch of Portuguese recipes I've been wanting to try. People here love the Frango de Churrasco though, like the Brits.

>portuguese people can pay only 3 for a bottle of dom jose Tawny

it's not fair...

>>68604767
Frango de Churrasco is pretty based, but also something we buy made in churrascarias. Almost nobody cooks their own. It's a summer Saturday lunch with the family sort of thing.

>>68604799
It's almost criminal, desu. Being overlooked on the international stage is pretty underrated. We enjoy a lot from having a former rich yet mostly unknown country in the way of food and peace.

I mean, fuck off, we're full!

>>68604829
>I mean, fuck off, we're full!

Never even planned to move there, at best I'd like to visit it to prove your wines at a cheap price.

I fairly believe Portugal makes much better wines than Italy and France, at least to my tastes.... and wallet.

God damn it if only your wines weren't so expensive here.

>>68604923
Imagine a whole Brazil drinking from Portugal at cheap prices?

We'd have none left. We have to mark it up because we simply can't keep up with the demand. Only here we have enough competition to make them all cheap.

File: vinho-porto-valdouro-ruby-D_NQ_NP_910121-MLB20685515762_042016-F[1].jpg (104KB, 675x1200px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 675x1200px

>>68604982
yeah but you guys are really jewing it up

>Valdouro Ruby at 90 bucks here...

I mean sure charge a bit more but no need to be so greedy about it!

>>68605039
Oh, I thought you had like 15€ wines or something. That's fucked up, desu.

>>68605063
;(

I'm planning to do my Masters in porto, just got my citizenship. My Grampa lived in vila real before getting here, too bad i have the Br accent.

>>68605063
>tfw winegrowers in family
>tfw they have to sell the cheapest wines that are still officially "quality wine" for €0.40/litre
Kinda makes me feel conflicted. On the one hand sad they can't get more because the market is saturated and our reputation is still somewhat tainted by the Liebfraumlich scandal that went through a whole stretch of the 20th century, on the other hand happy for cheap booze! (I'll leave a €5 note, sometimes €10 if it's just been payday after pulling a 5 litre jug from the barrel)

>>68602260
Post face

File: Schermata 2016-12-02 alle 20.40.33.png (3MB, 1792x1348px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1792x1348px

It's beautiful, I've been there this september for 3 days and I loved everything about it, the morning fog made me fall in love with it.

I love Portugal and it's probably one of my absolute favorite nations, and Porto is the city I liked the most.

>>68605433
4 days*

File: coimbra-city-night.jpg (48KB, 800x534px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 800x534px

>>68605433
>>68605495
Our cities do look pretty good at night/fog if I may say so. Must be because most are on hillsides by rivers, which makes a very picturesque view with the yellow streetlamps fading away and reflecting in the Tejo/Douro/Mondego/Whatever rivers.

File: 20161205_170413.jpg (671KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

671KB, 2560x1440px

I am iber

>>68605602
>those chinky eyes
You're castizo at best

>>68605602
Ah.

No you're not.

File: Schermata 2016-12-14 alle 01.03.28.png (2MB, 986x1336px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 986x1336px

>>68605590
they always look nice 2bh

Coimbra in pic

>>68605602
You have to go back.

>>68605731
Kek, I never see that street in the morning. That's basically where we all go for a drink late at night.

That and the serenata, which you may enjoy, when all the students go back home after the school year, and some of them say goodbye to the city for good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3WGttZdksg

>>68605602
You have a very Portuguese and Spanish-looking chin. I mean, you have both of them atop each other. Stop the grease, yank.

File: Schermata 2016-12-14 alle 01.09.46.png (3MB, 1802x1124px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1802x1124px

>>68605845
yeah I saw that!

It was the day of uni opening I think, the lads with the cape were doing some initiation ritual thing to the guys with the red shirts, pretty cool.

Also we went to listen to Fado in a small place in the street going up the stairs to uni, it's 2sad4me usually to listen at home but live is great.

File: Schermata 2016-12-14 alle 01.13.19.png (2MB, 1002x1352px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1002x1352px

>>68605957
also in the Church place near the city hall, but itwas full of tourist there.

>>68605957
Yeah, it's the praxe.

The video I posted happens at the end of the year, and it's the last episode of that whole thing.

It's mostly just drunk pranking these days, but the serenata and the traditions by themselves are pretty neat.

>>68605997
Igreja da Santa Cruz? Our first king is buried there. I haven't visited it since I was a kid, though. I definitely should.

Yeah, live Coimbra fado is great. I usually prefer it when it comes from the students, though. Feels more unpolished and amateur but more sincere and raw.

Instrumental Fado is GOAT, though.

File: Schermata 2016-12-14 alle 01.17.55.png (2MB, 1014x1348px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1014x1348px

>>68606066
I like the song you posted, wish we had something like that here.

But yeah Coimbra is very nice, I want to do my erasmus in Portugal, if I can't manage to go to Porto I'll try Coimbra definitely.

File: 1475342854140.jpg (52KB, 720x479px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 720x479px

>>68605731
>>68606163
Coimbra is pretty nice 2bh, good luck on your erasmus

File: Schermata 2016-12-14 alle 01.22.12.png (2MB, 1002x1346px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1002x1346px

>>68606217
thanks m88

>>68606163
Both pretty good options.

Some degrees are better in Porto, but Coimbra is definitely the student town of Portugal, and has the biggest tradition surrounding it and the most foreign students. Whereas Porto is traditionally a fishing and commerce/trading city.

Either way you won't be disappointed. Have fun.

File: Schermata 2016-12-14 alle 01.27.55.png (4MB, 1794x1350px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 1794x1350px

>>68606311
well I come from the sea and I lived away from it for a long time now so I want to go back to live in a seaside town for a while, plus I really loved the city so there's that. I do international relations (diplomacy stuff) so I don't know which one is actually better, I honestly don't mind it that much if it's not the best.

>>68606456
>International Relations
Eh, it's about the same in both places, desu. I'm sure you'll enjoy Porto. It's not like it's more than 1 hour away, anyway.

File: Schermata 2016-12-14 alle 01.47.20.png (3MB, 1794x1344px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1794x1344px

>>68606632
yeah true! train ride was super quick.