Can someone explain the difference between ш and щ? Like,

They don't sound the same though.

https://youtu.be/RbKmMXrYJgA

This video has it.
Look how your tongue must be.

>>68379994
they sound exactly the same to me

>>68380528
then you are a niemiec if you don't hear it lol, everybody west of Oder is pretty much a deaf person

>>68380528
When pronouncing щ your toungue has to touch the roof of your mouth more than when you pronounce ш

>>68380765
>>68380777
i watch the video and i heard no difference beetween the two letter. Maybe i'm deaf

>>68380777
>When pronouncing щ your toungue has to touch the roof
how do you that without sounding like a retard ?

>>68381026
*do

Ш sounds like you'd pronounce SHit.
Щ is SH and T so SHT.
Whats so hard about it?

>>68381026
By not being french

>>68380528
That is your personal problem m8

>>68381144
Why do you still need this letter if it doesn't even represent a separate sound in your language?

>>68381144
ш like in sheep
щ like in shit

>>68380528

You must be deaf then.

>>68381838
Are you fucking with us?
That's the same sound.

>>68381908
ok like ship and shit

>>68382086
Like sheet ans ship I'd say.

>ša is a letter of its own in Russian

that's just too weird

is that what your šč mutated into? I don't think Slavic languages other than Slovenian and Polish have retained the šč sound.

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>>68379879
>ш
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voiceless_retroflex_sibilant.ogg
>щ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voiceless_alveolo-palatal_sibilant.ogg

>>68382158
Russian is barely slavic at this point, you can't really compare our language with yours.

>>68379879
The first one is closer to "Sh"
The second is more like "Sh-ch"

>>68380036
> dem lips

>>68379879
In my opinion, ш is a typical "ch"/"sh", and щ is a soft "ch" like in german when you say "ich" for instance

>>68381286
> t. ц, ю, я...

Autistic thread

Ш is simply sh or š, as in ship, for example school - škola/schkola - Шкoлa.

Щ is Ш + ch/č (Ч) (as in cheater, cheetah), so shsch or šč. For example take sh from sheep and ch from cheater and you have Щ. Щ is literally шч.

>>68384876
>ц
It's an actual consonant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_affricate

>ю, я
Yeah, sure, adding 15 separate letters for the soft consonants would be a much better idea than that

>>68382908
>>68385021
>Щ is literally шч
It isn't. Your information is outdated for a couple of centuries

>>68385186
Then how is it? Because that's how my grandfather spoke when he was alive and it's how I know it.

>>68385241
Literally this:
>>68382248

>>68379879
i dont speak gommie sorry

>>68385281
Well I can't play it at work so I will clear it up when I get home

there is no difference russians are trolls

>>68385396
Щa кaк yeбy
Шиш oтcюдa

Щ = Шь

>>68385557
nope

Apparently it's still pronounced as ШЧ in Ukrainian and it's romanized as šč everywhere so I guess it depends who you really ask.

>>68385618
Why not? He wrote it exactly as you would say it in sheep.

>>68385722
>Why not?
Even though щ really is just soft [ш'] phonetically, it's never written written like "шь". "шь" and "ш" are both pronounced like [ш] in the Russian Cyrillic

>>68385784
Oh, I just thought that you mean it's not pronounced how he wrote it. Yeah I get it that it wouldn't be written like that.

>>68385784
what are you talking about? The "шь" doesn't sound like "щ". Шьyкa? Nope, it's a fucking щyкa!

>>68385784
>>68385976
Make up your minds

>>68386019
here the difference >>68382248

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>mfw everyone in this thread knows the difference between Russian letters
>mfw Europeans and Americans start to learn glorious Russian language

>>68385976
>"шь" doesn't sound like "щ"
Where did I say that "шь" sounds like "щ"?

>>68386055
In that second file it sounds exactly like soft ш

>>68382248
same sound desu