If your country's Constitution or laws protect the right

t. Falangista

>be american
>ate mexican food
>shart in mart
>go to jail

>there should be a legal chimp-out over burning a symbol
literally mudslime-tier

Gib independence nao you castillian cuck

t. third world shithole

Completely legal here

>>68038254
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/17/canada-new-laws-transgender-discrimination?espv=1

If you need a law to explain to you that burning a flag is stupid, you live with monkeys.
(Yes we do have a law)

See what I mean?
>>68038296

>>68038254
Yea sure... where are u from : D
>>68038322
Hillary Clinton just transfered $0.2 to your account for this post.

>>68038245
I forgot burgers have underpants with their flag.

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>>68038358
I'm familiar with Islamic culture.
>>68038454
We call them gazte.

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>>68038069
They don't, we are however at full liberty to burn the flag of the USA.

>>68038633
Good old Ahmed and Rasheed there celebrating our freedom of speech.

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>>68038510
NICE TRY CTR
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/720380815482302464

>>68038753
Wtf I am a Democrat now

>>68038510
Hillary Clinton was the one to propose the bill against flag burning 10 years ago, why should CTR have a problem with it? They're the ones that hate free speech, after all.

There is nothing wrong with locking up commies, or worse.

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>>68038254
>legal chimp-out

>>68038419
>American buys into whatever their media tells them
Literally nothing.

When did 4chan get this stupid ?
I always thought we were above the brainwashed, but it seems nowadays, 4chan is literally tumblr hanging off of the words of every big name out there...

>>68039058
Why the fuck would there be CTR after election is over?

>>68038254
>burn national flag
>nothing happens
>burn gay rainbow flag
>jailed and media witch hunted for a month

Really makes you think

>>68039491
you can shill some of the places some of the time, but not all of the places all of the time
ever since /pol/ started colonizing reddit it's gotten weak
it's grasp on the very site it originates from is ever more fragile

>>68039526
the people who feel they are required to justify every single thing Trump does and never hold him accountable for anything need some way to shut down discussion

Trump could resign and literally replace himself with Hillary and these idiots would still be trying to explain how Trump is in the midst of some cunning plan and calling anybody that disagrees a CTR shill

I'd support burning the flag if it was an effective way of capturing an important point you want to make about society. But all it does is say "I am angry about this country". It doesn't contribute to public debate, it doesn't convey a nuanced position, its just overly emotional attention-whoring that will only distance people from your movement and inhibit your cause from gaining public support.

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>>68039643
>reddit is stalingrad

>>68038069
>I should be able to send death threats to niggers and faggots because freeze peach
>REEE DON'T BURN THE FLAG REEE

(The funniest is that wearing the flag as cloth is actually disrespecting)

>>68038245
Nice

>>68039784
It shouldn't matter if you support it, it's a piece of cloth.
If you make it illegal to attack it as a symbol it would be making it illegal to attack the country.
If you can't attack your country as part of your free speech, than you're it's fucking slave.
If you have to pussyfoot around the things you hate about your country, than you're not free.
If you can't take a fat shit on your country because you hate every single aspect of it, than you are being thought policed, it's that simple.

>>68039643
>/pol/ is colonizing reddit
>implying it isn't the other way around

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>>68039824
the big red bull comes

>>68039677

Don't worry. 4chan's honeymoon with Trump will fade once they finally realize
>Hillary won't get prosecuted for anything
>the Wall won't get built; he'll just add some fencing here and there as Obama had planned
>the illegals won't all get deported; he won't deport the 11 million who are here legally. He'll only deport the illegal criminals (there are more like 800k than 2-3 million, which refers to both legal + illegal criminal immigrants), and he won't even get all of them (so maybe 300-500k), and he won't stop them from coming back.
>half of Obamacare will survive, and the other half will be replaced by a privatized system with monopolistic power which raises costs as high as the public system would have
>he supports abortion and gay marriage and trans* rights
>he won't get the manufacturing jobs back because they were mostly taken by automation and the economy is too internationally-integrated to prevent trade with countries with impossibly low wage rates like China/Bangladesh
>he will listen to bigtech and support more work visas from high-quality immigrant countries like India
>and more generally, this notion of alt-right political populism attempting to restore america to its 1950s state with white nuclear families will not happen. He will not stop the Left overnight. They will continue their missive, and feel all the more need to promote it more loudly now that the "epitome of the white supremacist capitalist patriarchy" is in power

Trump realized that, as an outsider candidate, if you want to win the Presidency without sucking the DNC or RNC's cock for 20 years, you have to make a big controversial circus to gain media traction and the public spotlight. That was a highly effective campaign strategy. His actual political positions are super centrist. Time will tell which issues he actually cared about. It could be as simple as changing the corporate tax rate from 35 to 15%. It could be as simple as him feeling entitled to be President.

>>68039784
>its just overly emotional attention-whoring that will only distance people from your movement and inhibit your cause from gaining public support.
All the more reason to NOT ban it - it doesn't pose a threat to anyone, except perhaps to bystanders wearing flammable clothing.

The totalitarians who want a ban want their fee-fees coddled by the law, much like the SJWs they bitch about.

>>68040137
This. If the only thing holding together your country is unrestrained emotion over a meaningless symbol then you really don't have a proper nation.

>>68039907
>>I should be able to send death threats to niggers and faggots because freeze peach
Implying.
Go to sleep, fucking idiot.

>>68040278
I'm not reading all of that fuckface. Summarize it.

>>68041332
fuck off

>>68039309
don't even attempt to post, congolombia.

The biggest cucks are /pol/ posters.

>>>/pol/

>>68040278
liberal fantasies of a centrist Trump really ought to have been dashed when he appointed Kobach and Sessions

>>68038069
do americans legislate with twitter

>>68039547
that doesnt happen here, maybe in sweden

imagine getting this triggered because someone burned a piece of cloth

>>68040278
shant be reading this

>>68038069
If you buy it you should be allowed to burn it.

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>>68040278
>trump will never win the primaries
>trump will never win the general election
>trump will never fulfill his promises
nate silver learned this lesson for you so you wouldn't have to, leaf!

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>>68041332
Dude, that's pretty short and fact-centered.

I don't think we have laws against it and I don't remeber anyone ever doing it but if you disrespect any symbol at school, university, etc you are going to get kicked out.

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>>68041732
>>68041781

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>>68039907
>freeze peach

>>68041135
Was refering to Americans/Trump voters here, not (you), amigo.

>>68042261
Calling other people Reddit is also Reddit, Reddit

>>68038254
Agreed.

>MUH FREEDOM
>BUT ONLY IF I LIKE HOW YOU PRACTICE YOUR FREEDOM

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>>68042261

Being too thin-skinned to accept someone disagreeing with you is the definition of beta.

>>68042470
arson and disagreement are two different things

>>68042797
>arson
You fucking what? It's a flag, not someone's house. You're telling me it is "arson" if you buy a flag and burn it just because it happens to have a particular print?

>>68042470
burn my flag I'll burn your home, if you call the cops you're a beta

>>68042797
It's not arson since it's his property, and if it's done safely, there's no danger of collateral.

>>68038069
>muh free speech, but only for opinions and ideologies I agree with
startin' to sound like an sjw there m8ty

>>68042992
>Burning your own property
>Burning someone else's property

>>68043112
a flag is not your property, burning it is an insult to the nation, the country and its people

>>68038069
>ddddis is m-muh freedumb!
lmoa loololollolol

but then, how's it going to go when you burn those shitty t-shirts etc on which that shit flag is printed. also, what about tone flags and every expression of such kind in media.
are all of those going to be banned too?

if so drumpf will just do censor the internet and the media this way too.
pretty amazing this is what most amerisharts are now ecstatic about.

>>68042470
being too scared of being called beta to enforce your will is the definition of beta.

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>>68042992
Vive la Marie la Pen
Vive la France

>>68043248
If it's the flag of your country it belong as much to you as it does them. Also, yes it is your fucking property. It's a piece of mass-produced cloth.

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>>68043248
>it should be illegal to insult the state

>>68038069
It's protected under the constitution, so there's literally nothing Trump can do about it.

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>>68043172
I like the kid in the suit.
>>68043248
>a flag is not your property
I have the receipt in my hand. I have a video of the moment when I purchased it. I can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt it is my flag. My property in its entirety.

>burning it is an insult to the nation, the country and its people
It can be, and I should have that right to insult the nation, the country, and its people. Are you not allowed to say "Fuck France", in France?

But maybe I feel it doesn't represent all that. Perhaps I feel the flag only represents the government. Or perhaps I feel the flag represents an advertisement for washing machines. Or perhaps I feel it doesn't represent anything at all, I'm just cold and want to be warm. Who knows? Are you going to interrogate every single person who burns a flag? Maybe they are lying? How will you determine their intentions? What if it's my policy to burn a flag every Wednesday, and France's turn came up? How many committees will you establish to determine my motivations? How many people will you imprison on hunches, suspicions, and guesses?

>>68043469
spoken like a true brainwashed liberal, the only value of something is the cost taken to produce it, symbols don't mean anything

>>68043506
I didn't mention the state, you're either retarded or have terrible english, you can insult the republic or my government as much as you want, but don't insult my country

>>68043613
Again, you're a retard brainwashed by social and economical liberalism where symbols don't mean anything and the only value of an item is its monetary worth, we operate on different planes of values, so different in fact that you can't even understand it.

>>68043506
go back to r*dditchan commie faggot

>>68043737
listen here uneducated monkey, stirner is literally the diametric opposite of a communist - an anarchist, read a fucking book on european philosophers
Marx was completely anally devastated about Max Stirner, how dumb can you be?

>>68043650
>>68043719
But you should be allowed to insult symbols too, it is freedom of speech.

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>>68043719
>you're a retard brainwashed by social and economical liberalism

>>68044036
So you should be able to give national defense secrets to your enemies, it's freedom of speech after all.

>>68044082
you're the reason I don't go to /pol/ anymore, bunch of retarded underage pieces of shit who think spouting the same phrases over and over is funny.

Try to have an actual conversation or shut the fuck up.

>>68043719
>brainwashed by social and economical liberalism
Whatever that means.
If you're calling me left-wing, that's a swing and a miss.
>You don't understand me! Like all the other stupidheads at school!
JACQUES! COME DOWNSTAIRS! WE'RE HAVING MEATBALLS!

>>68044160
>Try to have an actual conversation or shut the fuck up
Saying you're wrong and a retard without giving a reason is not having a conversation, it's having an emotional outburst.

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>>68044029
>left wing anarchism is not left wing
marx being butthurt makes literally no difference

>>68044168
So you don't understand my post and then you proceed to insult me.

Cool, you're like a living stereotype of why no one on earth can stand americans.

>losing your citizenship if you burn the american flag
It's not asnif there are amy advantage to be an american beside braging about muh gun rights. Free healthcare should be a priority. Screw the citizenship. I would just move to based Cuba.

>>68044160
>people asking for actual discussion rather than ad-homs are the problem

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>>68038069

>>68044327
That one is fake.
http://www.snopes.com/trumps-flip-flop-on-flag-burning/

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>>68043737
>>68044247
Dumb Congolombian

>>68044287
If tell you that if you consider that a flag is just a piece of mass produced cloth you're brainwashed and your response is a forced meme then you're not the one wanting an actual discussion.

>>68044228
I already made my case, your only answer was posting molyneux.

>>68038454
Actually, in the USA burning a flag is the constitutional way to dissolve one.

Now, wearing flags is actually... Inconstitutional.

So whatever you are saying makes no sense.

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>>68044247
>anarchism is the same as communism because they are left wing

>>68044421
But made more sense, according to the constitution, than the real one. Scary.

>>68044100
Not the same, national defense secrets are protected by law, they belong to an specific part of the goverment and they are part of specific policies.
A flag is a piece of clothes and what it represents belong to everyone.

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>>68044541
you're right, anarcho"""communism""" is technically not communism

I'll still call you a dumb commie though

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>>68044853
>Stirner
>Anarcho-Communism

Congolombian """""""""""""Intellectuals"""""""""""""""

>>68044681
so one exception to freedom of speech is tolerable but not another ?

In what way is something paid for by the people's taxes not belonging to the people who pay for it ?

>>68043584
theyll probably try to pass an amendment

I want Trump to execute the media!

>>68044920
actually I'm right

>>68045051
Actually you aren't, but keep being dumb

>>68044525
Those are both covered by Flag Code, which is only legally punishable for active servicepeople.

>>68044967
You are endangering your country and its people by treason. There's a big difference.

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>>68045088
nope, pretty sure I'm right
calling me dumb is not nice btw

>>68038069
I think it's pretty silly but i agree with that anyways, fuck anti-patriots

>>68045114
but it's freedom of speech

>>68044853
I'm not a commie, nor am I an anarchist.
You continue to ignore arguments and display pride in ignorance.
Taking away peoples freedom without a reason besides 'muh fee fees' is bullshit.
America was suppose to stand for that kind of freedom.
The right to wave flags people don't like and the right to burn flags people like.
I'm not even a proponent of this kind of freedom, I'm just amazed americans are willing to spit on what their country stands for because of hurt feelings.
I mean for fucks sake last time they did it they had communism as an excuse. This is plain sad.
A thousand american flags burning are less of an insult to america than their own people being less free.

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>>68038254
>it should be legal to desecrate the image representing your country
>but it should be illegal to call someone a faggot
lol

why are these stupid colombian monkeys so active on this thread. when they can stop being an ameriboo /pol/ack

>>68045012
Probably but they'll never get it through the required number of state legislatures. The easiest way would be to pack the Supreme Court with justices that agree with outlawing flag burning but even that's pretty infeasible.

>>68045110
>for active servicepeople.
Well, ever so more reasonable.

>>68038069
Not really concerned about the leaf. I think that insulting the Royal Family should be illegal tho.

>>68045283
I thought your supreme court judges were for life and Trump will only get to pick one.

>>68045255
yeah you're right, 1st amendment is there for a reason

>>68045297
t. proxy butthurt pole

>>68044967
Burning a flag is burning a piece of cloth that you bought, exposing defense secrets is revealing strategies, places, people, weapons that belong to the gov and are protected by the army, if they are really a secret it means they were protected by the goverment, they didn't belong to you and they were part of the army.
Getting them and exposing them means you acted against your country, you stole them and exposed people to danger, it is not the same.

>>68045276
A Country is an arbritrary collection of people who may or may not agree with the state.
A person is an individual protected by human rights and ethics.

A country does not exist, a human does exist.

>>68045437
They are and there is only one opening right now. However, many of the justices are pretty old and may retire and/or die at any time. Three of them are in their 80s.

>>68045255
I'm sorry I called you a commie btw

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>>68038069
>mfw the boy scouts is the group that burns the most american flags per year

>>68038069
It's about freedom of expression spen
Not that you would understand, having happily handed control of your country over to the EU.

>>68045477
but all that the government does is paid for by my taxes so how exactly does it not belong to me and how is it not my freedom to share it with whomever ?

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>>68045161
>Dummy can only reply with meems

stay mad and dumb, Congolombian

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>>68045812
sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of the mexican peso crashing

>>68045810
A part of it is paid by you, and the rest it is paid by the rest of the people. It is part of the goverment policy and they are a secret that you let (by law) the people in charge to make and to keep.

this fucking thread
>Stirner
>anarcho-communist
they guy literally against the concept of ideology being part of the most ideological view of the world I can think of

>>68044853
Anarcho-communism is against enforcement from a State or a leader, but it is communism. Makhno was fighting both the Red Army and the UPA.

>>68038069
That's fucking badass, patriotic as fuck

>>68046983
this is against the free speech, burning your flag is a way to express yourself that is protected by the US constitution (according to the supreme court)

>>68045923
Are you stupid? If mexican peso fall you will see the consequences in you currency, see the tequila effect

>>68046616
8ch users are flooding into the site because their own /pol/ became a censorship hive.

Expect to see more retards spewing incorrect philoswank positions in the future.

>>68047217
I get my income in dollars :^)

>>68046983
its almost the same as commies censored shit. is that badass? fucking simple minded idiot

>>68047388

>proud cuck

>>68047051
I believe that a measure like that would make a stronger patriotic sentiment across the nation, I believe in free speech, and I believe in the notion and the concept of country too, if you legitimately burn the flag of your country because you don’t like it, then something has to be done “CONSEQUENCES”.

This is why white cuck nations are falling apart, there’s no nationalism, Muslims burn European flags and you guys do nothing, you just watch, some of you even clap because is “free speech”. Free speech is when another race burn the flag of your country and raise another one, an Illegal activity is when someone display a Nazi flag in some European countries, there’s a word for that kind of behavior: KEK

>>68047574
>everything commies do= bad
>everything commies not do=good
>fucking simple minded idiot
Ironic huh?

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>>68043737

>max Stirner
>commie

>>68040208
you're both wrong. /pol/ IS reddit. they've been the same since 2014.

>>68049070
>egoistic anarchist poster
>Australian

checks out

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>>68044853

>being this politically illiterate

Kindly off yourself

>>68046659

I miss mahkno

>>68049124

His shitposting literature appealed to me

>>68044853
>you're right, anarcho"""communism""" is technically not communism
Communism = collective control of the means of production.
You can be anarchist AND communist if the collective control is voluntary.

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>>68038254
CANADA KEKED BY CUBA

>>68041332

He will break most of his promises and half-ass the remainder.

>>68038069
why would you want to burn a flag in the first place?

Funny how conservatives constantly criticize liberals for wanting to censor speech and practices they find offensive yet they do the same thing with "respect muh flag"

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If this post gets 50 replies I'll wipe my hairy ass with an American flag.

>>68053665
Welcome to the Reagan years 2.0 kid. I wonder if you'll get another anti dnd movie again?

pooop and pee

my national identity changes with the popular meme